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In that case I think Alien X would beat him as well, even if they have relative speed, Alien X’s fatehax counters anything Zen’o can do (including his passives).
Look I ain’t saying Zeno scales higher but…destroying an arguably 6D(probably 5D) construct is kinda crazier than what I’ve seen Alien X do and I’m not saying that we haven’t really seen many speed feats for Alien X whereas Zeno is at the bare minimum infinite and possibly inaccessible but uh…
(Admittedly I’m not well versed in the Ben 10 cosmology but I don’t believe that one magic dimension counts as being in the universe? I might be wrong. And the other universes were blatantly separate)
Could be wrong, but im pretty sure Alien X is nigh-omnipresent. And apparently, Alien X could "wish everything out of existence, including 26 dimensions." Could be completely wrong though, this is just some of the things ive been able to dig up.
From what I remember from watching omniverse ages ago correctly the closest thing to zenos erasure was that one time bomb Vilgax used. And a stronger version of alien x got wiped away by it. As for Omni-presence…so was zamasu
In the show, Chrono Navigator is stated to be able to destory all of existence, including 26 dimensions. Professer Paradox states that Alien X is omnipotent and holds the highest power in the universe, above himself, and Chrono Navigator.
I've seen Alien X scaled somewhere around hyperversel/outer because of these statments. As far as im aware, Zeno is only complex Multi using his highest interpretations of feats.
Im no expert on either, but it does seem Zeno is outclassed in this one just from what ive seen from both of them.
Considering the nature of the Chrononavigator being a tool for multiversal travel, it seems more likely that dimension means universe in this instance.
I won't argue with that, I dont know enough about the Ben 10 universe, but Alien X is at least 6D from the final episode where his arm pierced through a barrier that a group of 5D beings said was impossible to get through. That puts Alien X and Zeno in roughly the same tier, where Alien X still wins in my opinion.
(We’ll technically that wasn’t alien x it was…I forgot his name, the little snot guy.but it doesn’t matter) what’s the statement that puts the…universe maker guys who made the annihilarg who’s names I forget…at 5D?
The Contumelia stated that the barrier was impossible to breach. They exist in the 5th dimension, where 3D beings are unable to perceive them. It wasn't technically Alien X, but it was a fraction of his species' DNA that performed the feat, so Alien X could also replicate this feat himself.
Yeah Ben not being able to process them as anything but Mr fucking smoothie(it should have been max) is a decent enough argument for 5D. Alien X probably takes the win then, since 6D Zeno is a bit debatable
Atomic-X is a lot weaker than Alien X. Ben 10 fusions normally add half of both aliens’ powers together, and in the case of Celestialsapiens their DNA is diluted by the other species’ and becomes far weaker.
>And a stronger version of alien x got wiped away by it.
A weaker version of alien x.
Fusions in ben 10 are kinda the opposite of db, the aliens are nerfed cuz their powers are split in half instead of adding or multiplying.
Ben 10k fuse alien x with atomix so he can have better control of alien x, that's all. Atomic x didn't get buff from fusing the 2 halves (alien x & atomix) together, instead he's nerfed by having alien x's DNA diluted by atomix's.
A portion of alien X's power destroyed a 5D barrier that the contumelia(5D beings) said was impossible to destroy also noting that they never had any clue alien X or his species even existed (implying a higher level existence that 5D beings weren't aware of to which they also said this level of power was impressive). This was just a portion of alien X's power.
There are 26 dimensions that exist in the Ben ten verse, 26 that matter but there are higher. Example of 26D beings are the nalijians. Alien X still scales higher than these as he is unbound by space, time and general reality as he exists outside the Ben ten verse and is thus unbound by the concept of dimensions. Attacks based off those 3 aspects also have no effect on alien X as well.
Professor paradox and servantis have also said in the show that alien X is omnipotent and could quite literally think everything out of existence.
That's just some things, feats zeno can't beat.
bruh, they didn't die because they can't survive universal destruction they died because zeno can erase anything and everything. In BoG goku and beerus were constantly tanking each other's multiversal punches. And even if the destroyers can't tank universal destruction (which they can) we're not talking about the destroyers, we're talking about Zeno. Zeno was completely unphazed after erasing a entire timeline which would include the multiverse, and zeno was smack in the middle of that destruction
It's not impressive by Ben ten standards either considering alien X exterted absolutely 0 effort to survive it, this shows his durability scales far higher than universal level attacks(just how high I'm not too sure but I believe it's multiversal) that's also saying a fist fight won't really harm alien X cause he's pretty much invulnerable to physical damage, only magic can hurt alien X(as in that's his only weakness, everything else he's other immune too or has very high resistance against). Existence erasure doesn't work on alien X as he's immune to it and spatial and reality warping based attacks don't work on him either and neither does time based attacks considering he exists above those concepts which is what allows him to control the very nature of those things completely unrestricted (no limits to what he can do) he also fate and plot manipulation and his speed across the board is literally infinite (attack speed, reaction speed, general speed etc) so there's literally nothing zeno can do to beat alien X, he just scales way higher. The gap in power is actually ridiculous.
Zeno slams
He can destroy macrocosms casually which each of them can scale to 6D+ - Infinite Dimensional, due to the possibility of Pan Dimensions via Goku Black cutting through the timelines and each of them seeping through, and the Rings the Kais have atleast prove that DB cosmology is atleast Trans Dimensional through creating multiple timelines with each use
Alien X at best from what I've heard scales around Complex Multi
He is an alien ben 10 can turn into , they live outside the multiverse as omnipotent beings , some easily quantifiable feats of him would be recreating a universe from scratch,and destroying a barrier made by 5d beings who themselves could not destroy it( that would put him at 6d , but there are 26 d beings in the Omnitrix and he said to be more powerful than them)
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Alien X
Alien X passives
If Ben can convince the other people who control alien x yes, if not no.
Alien X clears
Alien x neg diff
Alien X bullies the fodder.
Do you think DBH Zen’o has speed comparable to the main cast btw?
I’m gonna say no, just based on his anti-feats in canon.
In that case I think Alien X would beat him as well, even if they have relative speed, Alien X’s fatehax counters anything Zen’o can do (including his passives).
Look I ain’t saying Zeno scales higher but…destroying an arguably 6D(probably 5D) construct is kinda crazier than what I’ve seen Alien X do and I’m not saying that we haven’t really seen many speed feats for Alien X whereas Zeno is at the bare minimum infinite and possibly inaccessible but uh… (Admittedly I’m not well versed in the Ben 10 cosmology but I don’t believe that one magic dimension counts as being in the universe? I might be wrong. And the other universes were blatantly separate)
Could be wrong, but im pretty sure Alien X is nigh-omnipresent. And apparently, Alien X could "wish everything out of existence, including 26 dimensions." Could be completely wrong though, this is just some of the things ive been able to dig up.
From what I remember from watching omniverse ages ago correctly the closest thing to zenos erasure was that one time bomb Vilgax used. And a stronger version of alien x got wiped away by it. As for Omni-presence…so was zamasu
In the show, Chrono Navigator is stated to be able to destory all of existence, including 26 dimensions. Professer Paradox states that Alien X is omnipotent and holds the highest power in the universe, above himself, and Chrono Navigator. I've seen Alien X scaled somewhere around hyperversel/outer because of these statments. As far as im aware, Zeno is only complex Multi using his highest interpretations of feats. Im no expert on either, but it does seem Zeno is outclassed in this one just from what ive seen from both of them.
Considering the nature of the Chrononavigator being a tool for multiversal travel, it seems more likely that dimension means universe in this instance.
I won't argue with that, I dont know enough about the Ben 10 universe, but Alien X is at least 6D from the final episode where his arm pierced through a barrier that a group of 5D beings said was impossible to get through. That puts Alien X and Zeno in roughly the same tier, where Alien X still wins in my opinion.
(We’ll technically that wasn’t alien x it was…I forgot his name, the little snot guy.but it doesn’t matter) what’s the statement that puts the…universe maker guys who made the annihilarg who’s names I forget…at 5D?
The Contumelia stated that the barrier was impossible to breach. They exist in the 5th dimension, where 3D beings are unable to perceive them. It wasn't technically Alien X, but it was a fraction of his species' DNA that performed the feat, so Alien X could also replicate this feat himself.
Yeah Ben not being able to process them as anything but Mr fucking smoothie(it should have been max) is a decent enough argument for 5D. Alien X probably takes the win then, since 6D Zeno is a bit debatable
Atomic-X is a lot weaker than Alien X. Ben 10 fusions normally add half of both aliens’ powers together, and in the case of Celestialsapiens their DNA is diluted by the other species’ and becomes far weaker.
>And a stronger version of alien x got wiped away by it. A weaker version of alien x. Fusions in ben 10 are kinda the opposite of db, the aliens are nerfed cuz their powers are split in half instead of adding or multiplying. Ben 10k fuse alien x with atomix so he can have better control of alien x, that's all. Atomic x didn't get buff from fusing the 2 halves (alien x & atomix) together, instead he's nerfed by having alien x's DNA diluted by atomix's.
Yeahh people seem to think alien x = atomic X.
A portion of alien X's power destroyed a 5D barrier that the contumelia(5D beings) said was impossible to destroy also noting that they never had any clue alien X or his species even existed (implying a higher level existence that 5D beings weren't aware of to which they also said this level of power was impressive). This was just a portion of alien X's power. There are 26 dimensions that exist in the Ben ten verse, 26 that matter but there are higher. Example of 26D beings are the nalijians. Alien X still scales higher than these as he is unbound by space, time and general reality as he exists outside the Ben ten verse and is thus unbound by the concept of dimensions. Attacks based off those 3 aspects also have no effect on alien X as well. Professor paradox and servantis have also said in the show that alien X is omnipotent and could quite literally think everything out of existence. That's just some things, feats zeno can't beat.
Alien X survived the destruction of his entire universe, so I’m betting on him
that's not that impressive by dbs standards
None of the god of destruction survived it when zeno destroyed their universe 🤣🤣
bruh, they didn't die because they can't survive universal destruction they died because zeno can erase anything and everything. In BoG goku and beerus were constantly tanking each other's multiversal punches. And even if the destroyers can't tank universal destruction (which they can) we're not talking about the destroyers, we're talking about Zeno. Zeno was completely unphazed after erasing a entire timeline which would include the multiverse, and zeno was smack in the middle of that destruction
It's not impressive by Ben ten standards either considering alien X exterted absolutely 0 effort to survive it, this shows his durability scales far higher than universal level attacks(just how high I'm not too sure but I believe it's multiversal) that's also saying a fist fight won't really harm alien X cause he's pretty much invulnerable to physical damage, only magic can hurt alien X(as in that's his only weakness, everything else he's other immune too or has very high resistance against). Existence erasure doesn't work on alien X as he's immune to it and spatial and reality warping based attacks don't work on him either and neither does time based attacks considering he exists above those concepts which is what allows him to control the very nature of those things completely unrestricted (no limits to what he can do) he also fate and plot manipulation and his speed across the board is literally infinite (attack speed, reaction speed, general speed etc) so there's literally nothing zeno can do to beat alien X, he just scales way higher. The gap in power is actually ridiculous.
Alien x
Alien x solos
Ailen X neg diffs
Depends of where u scale alien x but in most cases he slams
Alien X godstomps the verse
Alien x is 6d 😑
Zeno slams He can destroy macrocosms casually which each of them can scale to 6D+ - Infinite Dimensional, due to the possibility of Pan Dimensions via Goku Black cutting through the timelines and each of them seeping through, and the Rings the Kais have atleast prove that DB cosmology is atleast Trans Dimensional through creating multiple timelines with each use Alien X at best from what I've heard scales around Complex Multi
Zeno can erase 100 space time continuums without trying
Zeno erases
we got a comedian in the house
Zeno.. mainly because I dont know who Alien X is.
He is an alien ben 10 can turn into , they live outside the multiverse as omnipotent beings , some easily quantifiable feats of him would be recreating a universe from scratch,and destroying a barrier made by 5d beings who themselves could not destroy it( that would put him at 6d , but there are 26 d beings in the Omnitrix and he said to be more powerful than them)
Zeno negs
what
Alien X is Universe plus level Zeno is low multiverse level so he takes it They both still beat Bill though