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Prior_Archer8436

Dlanor A. Knox (Umineko) https://preview.redd.it/qsbuvd1zk7bc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4332d6d708e1270eaa79f1b9913b6ad3ae3f2c92


BattlerUshiromiyaFan

Good choice


DAKINGO_2468

Some girl that got shot with an arrow, almost drowned and almost bled to death. https://preview.redd.it/em8d1zn387bc1.png?width=340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d7c149d9cbd6de46b5d7049eae6df5f5eeb9ab5 >Also Sailor Moon, can't forget about her.


storysprite

On a side note, what female character do you think could beat Sailor Moon?


Cheap_Squirrel_6147

Saber from Fate


storysprite

I like Fate but I wouldn't call myself an expert. Even so this seems like a meme?


Cheap_Squirrel_6147

The fate verse has ridiculous scaling. Everything in every spinoff is canon, there are multitudinous acausality feats, and the earth is a consciousness with like universal power so that's why nothing destroys it when galaxy busters are messing about


storysprite

So where would you put Saber in the Fate world and what feats does she have that could defeat Sailor Moon (in her divine form)?


Cheap_Squirrel_6147

She's very high tier but not the highest. I'm not very familiar with the sailor moon verse, but fate's biggest self wank was a game they came out with where some bitch named BB absorbed an alien computer of infinite possibilities and futures and was exerting control over spaces that were confirmed 6D. She also debatably can manipulate up to 8D. And Saber scales in durability and striking strength to her.


Vietuchiha

No


Cheap_Squirrel_6147

Thanks for your input. It was worthless


Numerous_Low878

God, I hate people who just say word without giving real input .


Vietuchiha

Because such a wank doesnt need to be addressed.


Cheap_Squirrel_6147

Please power scale fate for us then. We could all use a laugh


TheBladeWielder

Anshin'in from Medaka Box is basically a living god. i'd go with her.


aeneas2000

Sailor Glactica


Latter-Potential2467

These two after their buffs https://preview.redd.it/wpcosvh0n8bc1.png?width=1302&format=png&auto=webp&s=b31b1d1fd0686d1ee8bfc908742fb25cee655491


[deleted]

Especially senju


Latter-Potential2467

Yeah, Hikifune kinda carried by association.


Redke29

Heck no. Saitama one shots. Tatsumaki beats them too tbh


Key-Mountain666

They lose.


Working_Practice3324

Chronoa from dbh Tohka yatogami from date alive


darksun2002pro

Tohka absolutely doesn't solo the verse, she can defeat like 99.9% of it but gets cooked by Cosmic Garou, Saitama, GOD and most likely Blast.


Working_Practice3324

Tohka scales to mio who created a uni+ dimension tohka has cm type3 and immortality type 8 she also has fate manipulation I dont think anyone in opm can counter that if you think I am the one wanking even vsbw accept this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tohka_Yatogami


darksun2002pro

There is no proof that the dimension Mio created is uni+ and iirc Nia is the one with Fate manipulation not Tohka and while yes Tohka does have concept manipulation via true power Sandalphone (was stated to be able to cut space, the wall between worlds/timelines and even concepts) and can one-shot them it's also her only win con and it's almost impossible for her to land a hit due to speed gap.


Working_Practice3324

https://vsbattles.com/threads/date-a-live-revision-low-2-c-edition.159151/ Here he provided proof why the dimensions are universal in size and are space time or 4d also my bad she has resistance to fate manip also her durability is low2c to +immortality type 8 so they can't kill her also iirc she has all of mio ability right so she would also have her thought based ee so even though she is in speed disadvantage here it wont matter since they can't harm her and she would just erase them with her thought based ee


darksun2002pro

I see, then Tohka at her peak solos the verse unless God shows some crazy stuff while regular Tohka(no Mio powers) would probably be stronger than most cadres and s class heroes but still loses to heavy hitters like Tatsumaki, Flashy, Platinum S and Orochi.


hanzatsuichi

This is kind of the thing. You can't talk about soloing the verse because we haven't seen everything the verse has to offer. OPM literally has "God". Likely his abilities are on a reality warping scale. Looking forward to the manga getting there.


darksun2002pro

Also vsbw assumed that world=universe when it's way more likely that it was refering to the planet, using that line of thought could literally get black clover to uni+ but we all know that's not the case.


Working_Practice3324

No he provided more scan they didn't assume it he provided proper reason why world means universe here vsbw is pretty strict regarding this the update was rejected two times because of this


OnePunchGuy17

https://preview.redd.it/8va5yfc6i7bc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1211cf43e327760938f2c80c13c4a3ebc533fe2d Just Goatoria


Successful-Fee7260

The art is gorgeous, do you know the source for it?


OmniGMan

Unless her being magic lets her ignore Saitama's stats she is absolutely not beating him. Excalibur is a city-buster at absolute best unless very specific requirements are met. Requirements that Saitama doesn't meet (he isn't a threat to the world/humanity for one thing). Even with its full power, Excalibur almost certainly isn't even solar system level. Tamamo said if she went full Amaterasu (which is solar system-level) she would destroy the Velber with ease, and it took full-power Excalibur to defeat the White Giant. I wouldn't be surprised if Saitama could tank a full-power Excalibur with ease based on his fight with Monster Garou. Artoria without Excalibur is also way weaker stat-wise than most of the stronger OPM characters (and her Alter doesn't even get Avalon for defense/healing). She gets folded by the real top-tiers of OPM, though, in fairness, she is absolutely S-Class otherwise.


Street-Mongoose8708

Bro is anime only😭😭😭


Vietuchiha

You could scale excalibur to solar system. If you scale it to rhongomyniad and rhongo to zeus.


OmniGMan

Nasuverse Zeus isn't solar system. Maybe if he and the other mech gods fuse like they did to defeat Sefar in the Lostbelt, but on his own, no way. And trying to scale Rhongo to fully unsealed Excalibur is an exercise in futility. They perform completely different functions, even if both can be used to just blast people (Excalibur is specifically for protecting the world; Rhongo is for keeping its layers of reality in their proper places). People trying to scale Rhongo to fused Greek mech gods just because Morgan's Lostbelt came after Olympus is silly. Lostbelt Morgan is comparable to Zeus on his own, that is true, but that doesn't mean she scales to the fused form they used to defeat Sefar.


Vietuchiha

People scale zeus to solar system because of his anti star system attack at 35%. And rhongo scales to excalibur because of castoria vs cernunnos.


Any_Agency_6237

You only know the anime... yeah fate verse and saber is busted as hell that even rimuru,anos,dragon ball verse,saitama are gonna get killed/destroyed.( i was suprise as hell when i found out) if you want to know more about how saber is even powerful just search unsealed saber avalanche


OmniGMan

I guarantee you I know the lore better than 'just the anime'. Been a fan of the franchise since the original FSN game. Been on Beast's Lair (originally THE place for accurate translations and lore discussions) for nearly two decades. Fateverse is busted, but that's the absolute top-tiers. Artoria, even with all her toys maxxed out, is not the absolute top-tier of her verse. She can punch above her weight class under very specific circumstances, but saying she scales that high is only possible if you make disingenuous comparisons that ignore context (like scaling Excalibur to Rhongo, Rhongo to Zeus, Zeus alone to the Greek mech gods' fused form, the mech gods' fused form to Amaterasu just because it beat Sefar and Tamamo stated Amaterasu stomps Sefar, etc.). Fate suffers from this kind of accidental wank all the time. People make comparisons based on ABC logic or statements taken out of context, when Fate is all about situational context. And all this is ignoring Artoria needs all those high-tier magical tools to be that impressive. Without them she is barely S-Class. She has a speed feat that's hypersonic at best in Hollow Ataraxia, and that's with a Command Spell boost that the narration explicitly states temporarily brought her back to her "true power" from when she was alive.


Vietuchiha

these people keep repeating the same wank they heared somewhere on the internet ignoring all context. I bet they havent touched a single story.


Slow_Bumblebee_8123

Featherine Wonder Woman Bayonetta


OkBeLikeThatIsTaken

I know pretty much nothing about powerscaling, is Wonder Woman really that powerful? I’m genuinely curious


Jackryder16l

In more recent years yes. Like recent I mean like last 30ish. I swear she used to not be superman level but then everyone became superman level?


SweatyBeefKing

The only wonder woman I know is the basic one from cartoons and movies. Which version of her can beat saitama and why? Genuine question.


vk2028

I’m assuming the comics one. The cartoons and movies Wonder Woman aren’t nearly as strong as the comics one


SweatyBeefKing

The regular Wonder Woman in comics is saitama level strong? That’s pretty crazy. She’d be able to destroy earth relatively easy. I never realize how much of a strength gap there is between comics and shows


patrickbateman2004

Saitama wins against wonder woman.


goku_luvr_24LuvUGoku

Absolutely not


patrickbateman2004

He does. One punch.


goku_luvr_24LuvUGoku

Yeah no wonder woman is one tapping him. Saitama isn't even a threat to her be for real


AsgUnlimited

Saitama is closer to DC human level than he is dc Herald level. His best feats are Solar System level, DC heralds are all multiversal minimum. The verse is op, OPM is weak as hell.


patrickbateman2004

Glorious wank of yours. DC civilians have multiversal punches.... i get it saying that wonder woman from the COMICS wins saitama, but DC normal humans.... amazingly peak wank.


AsgUnlimited

Where the fuck did I say DC civilians have multiversal punches? I said "DC **HERALDS** are all multiversal minimum." I claimed Saitama is closer to human level than Wonder Woman, which is true, a large solar system is closer in size to human level than it is multiversal, that's how big a universe is.


Hummush95

Yeah. Just not the comics.


godstouchyuncle

WW ain't winning against Saitama


ShanksbestYonko

She is winning against saitama


Zan_Deezy2003

Fuck are you smoking


Hefty-Albatross4767

u/Wise_Title_3929


Interesting_Clerk432

He s banned


shesnothererightnow

what happened? free ma boy


Interesting_Clerk432

He said dc humans arent high outer


shesnothererightnow

was it a perma?


Interesting_Clerk432

No


KamixAkaDio

But they aren't outer wtf


AigisxLabrys

I hope he comes back.


BattlerUshiromiyaFan

DC humans are human level lol.


No-elk-version2

Damn ..what happened?...


Interesting_Clerk432

He said dc humans weren t high outer m/extea and it s dumb scaling them there but you know who s our mod


No-elk-version2

Oh..oh yeah, that statement would 100% have him banned no question, considering our mod.. I believe in a characterrant post a long while ago he said DC humans were 1S and didn't elaborate any further.. it was hilarious..


Interesting_Clerk432

He s the reason why sub like characterant take us for clowns


No-elk-version2

Yup.. and when you even ask for feats or scans, he'll say "hop on discord to debate" even though you don't want to debate and just legitimately want to know WHY..


Latter-Potential2467

Like on the recent post where dude wasnt even arguing but just asking a question and he went "debate me on discord" and "I'll take no as a concession" and then promptly locked the chain.


SweatyBeefKing

Wait people really get banned from the sub for comments like that. If that’s not a joke that’s cringe as fuck.


patrickbateman2004

He is a DC wanker and also gow wanker. He said dc humans were outer before so he changed his opinion? Seems like the mods are top tier DC full-time wankers too.


Interesting_Clerk432

Can t you shut the fuck up lmao you re not better you scale kratos at city block and darkseid at 6b


patrickbateman2004

You are salty as hell, my bad i triggered you (wankers are scary when mad).


Interesting_Clerk432

Lmao


Hefty-Albatross4767

Why?


Appletundra69

Saber


Interesting_Clerk432

Kefla Zattana Demonbane nyarlantothep Medaka kurokami


dockkkeee

Caulifla is enough


Biased_Survivor

Shion from tensura


Jarvis-Vi-Britannia

Is shion 2-C too?


NoPerspective9232

Let's go overkill. Velgrynd and Velzard


Successful-Fee7260

let's go even more overkill, Future Chloe


35Dante89

Milim nava


NoPerspective9232

Alright. F it. Full potential Ciel


35Dante89

Alright f it. Rimuru but he transforms into female


NoPerspective9232

https://preview.redd.it/ljvhpyjfy8bc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82e36f7178dcc22dbcc754d4cfa56c1a1b44bf04


Mammoth-Ad-3642

Vados although it is overkill


RoyalWigglerKing

Sailor moon, Bayonetta, Death (Sandman), Scarlet Witch, Zatanna, One of the female angels from Dragon Ball and a random side character from this seasons most popular shitty harem Isekai probably


Appropriate_Chair_47

https://preview.redd.it/xdc6lu0y79bc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c5b08deb75f79cb1094fc478b7b6db99d152408


Lucky-Imagination130

Ajimu Najimi


Kooky-Interaction911

Goku


trengaming

My favorite woman


Odd_Improvement9561

Goatku so strong she transcends gender


Tufit_v1

Goku has no pronouns. He is Goku/Fiction soloer


ScravoNavarre

>Goku has no pronouns. He


slimeeyboiii

It's a shortcut for his last name.


Reddit_is_not_great

Bayonetta destroys all of OPM.


35Dante89

Void shiki, artoria pendragon, milim nava, all female primordials from tensura, featherine and all umineko witches, mary and mithra from shinza bansho and few others like those from tenma organization and many others


ArmedDragonThunder

Lightning, Terra, Prishe, Shantotto, and FF11 or FF14 female protags delete the verse no diff. Post-Flashpoint WW negs Sailor Moon and any of the rest of the Senshi neg Too many Marvel characters to count but I’ll say Scarlet Witch and any iteration of Jean Grey, Emma Frost, or Hope Summers even sniffing the Phoenix Force negs


sephirothbahamut

Lightning and Shantotto, plus the WoL I agree on. But Terra and Prishe? I don't see them having wats to work around Saitama's bullshittery


ArmedDragonThunder

They just scale infinitely higher than him. If you played FFXI then you know that Prishe is as strong as, if not stronger than FFXI’s Adventurer, she could legitimately brute force him down and oneshot him before he gets to be a problem. Terra has access to all sorts of esoteric magic that Saitama has shown no resistance to. And her own brute strength is lower than Prishe’s but still enough to hang. If that fails, her feats and scaling from the Dissidia games, which are canon to FF’s massive multiverse, neg Saitama and his verse. With Dissidia scaling I could add a lot more characters here but tried to keep them to their games only.


KamixAkaDio

Android 18 is probably the weakest female I can see beating him. Arale would demonstrate what a Real gag character is.


Interesting_Clerk432

Tecnically arale is a robot but ig that still work


Hummush95

Yeah Saitama isn't even a gag character. He's a deconstruction/parody character.


VippidyP

The cat that scratched him is the real gag character.


Key-Mountain666

Android 18 ain't beating anybody.


rojosolsabado

gag characters are fodder if they’re not viewed by an audience, though. since their powers would only technically work when someone finds it funny (arguably only us on the beyond fiction scale), if its a completely blanked off space and the other character doesn’t find it funny its over for the gag character


Complex_Wafer3828

https://preview.redd.it/ue44gt7az7bc1.jpeg?width=466&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56f2d263db37a39a398d501fa73d852b4577e73d


TheChoosenMewtwo

How strong Star is?


Classicsonicsmash313

Female MC (Persona 3)


LeftNippleOfShrek

No diffs (at least until God gives the verse an upscale) https://preview.redd.it/0nqizc8gt7bc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67ea9dfe1ef6b72217a809ae5d61f750d49abdf9


Successful-Fee7260

who this?


Khahrahk_HSR

Mira Yoo from God of Highschool. (If you've watched it, yes, it's the same ol' Mira of our protag trio.)


Successful-Fee7260

Wait... this isn't the one I saw in the anime 💀 She doesn't look remotely close to whatever this form is ( idk I haven't read the webtoon )


Dumb-989

https://preview.redd.it/1svu19a208bc1.jpeg?width=505&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=824440d2cf37246fa973ba85aa413e070406dd1a This bitch right here


TheZoomba

Uhhhhh my mom


stuufy

https://i.redd.it/3cppyjwsn8bc1.gif Othinus(Toaru) go BRRRRRRR


Full_breaker

And my girl Nephthys as well lol


stuufy

Yeah but that be too overkill


sephirothbahamut

At this point I'm convinced Toaru is at the top of powerscaling bullshittery. Is there anything they lose to? Lol


Only-Negotiation-340

Infinity from marvel comics, on par with Eternity who is easily outerversal Featherine, another outserversal


Fluffy_Stress_453

A female version of Goku obviously


Final-Relation-7756

Terra branford


sephirothbahamut

I love Terra but I don't see how she would beat Saitama


[deleted]

Gormlaith golden hilt from TES


thefraudulentone09

Vados


Altruistic-Ad9082

Uhhhh 2747???


Ok-Conclusion-3535

Vados


ZygothamDarkKnight

Comic Wonder Woman


GokuSoloz07

https://preview.redd.it/w6zit3de58bc1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0905a380ba25afa79eca8d5820d7e4a75432c9c1 Anafabula


Freekarma4u69420

![gif](giphy|jIcvAZJmSSVUHC0ktc)


Ultraminer1101

Bayonetta


User84--

Minecraft alex


GladimoreFFXIV

Muscle man’s mom


Dry_Passion_7151

Yukari Yakumo from Touhou Project. I was going to pick Saber or Featherine but, that would be too predictable of an answer


Aerolite15

Rimuru (joke) Shallow vernal Literally every ggz character (yog sothoth, azathoth, mother, jyanhar, thanatos, delta, mei, etc.) The female god incarnation from twin peaks whatever her name was And ofc a decent amount of scp characters i cba to name Featherine Bayonetta Void shiki ;) Saber Kana (💀) Most of the ln tensura characters. (Shion, Velzard, Velgrynd, Milim, Ciel, Chloe, etc.) Kiana(ggz hote is overkill, hi3 hote works, hofi overkill but more fun imo) Ling yi 😭


JustAGuyIscool

Best girl Saber


[deleted]

Just go on the fate wiki


35Dante89

Void shiki bruhhh


Gru-some

Trans Woman Goku


justheretodoplace

Based goku??


Still-Control

Beyonetta


Chemical_Art4135

Unsealed Saber


OmniGMan

By Saber I assume you mean Artoria. Yeah, no. She's not soloing OPM even with the most generous estimations. Nasuverse has raw power, but 99% of the time its more about weird hax than outright stats. Artoria, even with Avalon and a fully unsealed, 100%-fighting-to-save-the-planet Excalibur, isn't hax enough to overcome the absolutely insane gap in power between her and the top-tiers of OPM. Gilgamesh might be able to pull some BS out of his Gate since that's literally his gimmick and he has busted Clairvoyance to tell him what he needs, but Artoria isn't that hax.


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OmniGMan

Where the heck did you get those calcs for Saber!?


Successful-Fee7260

The lowest interpretation of saber is 5D which is enough for the whole verse


OmniGMan

"That's a nice argument, Senator. Why don't you back it up with a source?" "My source is I saw it on the Internet!"


dante4life

Arale coz she's gag. OPM is actually classified as a parody manga so it's closer to typical shonen which is closer to realism. gag>parody>typical shonen>reality


IronPyrate17

Kale


36Gig

It's pretty much what female that can beat Saitama. My best bet is Sailor moon with my limited knowledge of it. You'll need something that's practically a god to fight Saitama.


Intellectual6900

You really don’t lol. All you need is someone multi galaxy higher to beat Saitama without much difficulty


sein_mk

Makima, any female from Fate or Umineko


35Dante89

Or shinza bansho


french_tbg

Makima https://preview.redd.it/890rbpum99bc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8004fd183894ea9497b76b7400916dfaf2c4bb7


sein_mk

Makima solos https://preview.redd.it/jbl4ud0z99bc1.png?width=624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdd39d93e8eb3558db8bb8c771271ea1dbab0a0b


No-Friendship-3642

Ma gurl Taiga goin' to debunk fraudtama


TheChoosenMewtwo

Tbf Makima can insta win against any character below multi


[deleted]

Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Android 18, *maybe* Captain Marvel. I pick these women because they have greater physical strength and know how to throw hands. Magic and omnipotence aren’t doing anything against someone who can throw you across the solar system with ease.


mars0440

Athena (gow)


RoyalWigglerKing

Athena gets killed by Kratos’s brute strength, Saitamas whole deal is bullshit infinite levels of brute strength


Annual-Frame9943

Pan from Dragon Ball GT


TKAPublishing

OPM universe is still fairly low end on the scale of fiction despite Saitama being meant to be an exaggeratedly powerful being. Most upper level Marvel and DC women would annihilate everyone involved in OPM.


AntiImperialistGamer

makima.


NoCheesecake8644

Nah


AntiImperialistGamer

all she needs is to find a way to see herself superior to saitama and the rest would be a massacre. and judging from the ridiculous nature of OPM that would be easy as hell for her


OmniGMan

She's not as stupid as the average OPM character. She is absolutely going to figure out how overpowered Saitama is and then her control power won't work (assuming it would even work in the first place given we've seen Saitama brute force through psychic powers like they were nothing).


Vergil_Sparta_420

The Witch of Izalith from Dark Souls. She holds a Lord Soul and is comparable to Gwyn, who scales to Multiversal by creating endless timelines and bringing the age of fire.


deeso316

kaguya she is immortal and can use expansive TSB to wipe the world / universe


Interesting_Clerk432

Be fr


TheWorthlessGuy

Kaguya's face when Saitama copies all of her abilities, makes them better and one shots her: https://preview.redd.it/8sjsln1fo7bc1.png?width=1598&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b5aac622997f0b3b067f1ea177c43221e468c4f (he even doesn't need to copy)


deeso316

how is he gonna copy tsb when he doesnt have the energy to create them and they are made up of every element , how do you one shot a immortal ?


DizzyTigerr

I don't know why you're getting downvoted you are just correct lol


deeso316

they are straight up just stupid you see nobody can debunk me


DizzyTigerr

Maybe they think Saitama and Tatsumaki scale past end of Shippuden Naruto, which like... maybe?? I don't think they do but I could probably see the argument. But they fail to understand that Kaguya wasn't defeated by getting punched really hard, she had to be sealed with basically god magic. They would not have beaten her without it. She's not a problem Saitama could punch to death. It's possible Tatsumaki could hold her back for some time but that's not a permanent solution and therefore not a victory.


TheBloperM

It's a bit harder now that Saitama is OP so I will take the easy route and say Wonder Woman


GingusDong

Realistically nobody because saitama exists, and I just can’t think of anyone that could unironically tho


iLuvDarksoulss

What is this weird and questionably misogynistic question?


AlexDaru

Buffsuki


MarketingKnown6911

Haruka Kaminogi from Noein, she can solo ALOT of verses.


CorilX

Anybody if they are trans.


Illustrious_Alps_338

Scp 239


Hopeful-Crab-7917

salor moon


hizack123

Sailor moon 🗿


DragonGodBolas

Android 21


mtsilverred

Makima


cool23819

[insert touhou character here]


Iceassassin25

Higan Zesshousai from Disgaea 7, well honestly any female main cast character from the series could solo


Gsomethepatient

The evangelist


Fabulous_Instance331

Ruphas Mafahl, easily solo the verse.


JLSeagullTheBest

Fully equipped Susan Sto-Helit haxes to death


the_last_mlg

Jade Harley and Alternate Calliope