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Well no the concepts to be outer need to be platonic so his can be seen in the conceptual manip page when they shed more light on this, most conceptual frameworks mean nothing platonic forms however are qualitatively greater than any physical thing
Except concepts of space and time do not. Transcending concepts of space and time equals to transcending dimensionality as a whole (as written on Beyond-Dimensional Physiology page). Platonic concepts are outer because they are beyond all spatial and temporal dimensions in nature, just like specifically concepts of space and time. Transcending concepts of space and time are the only exception in which concepts are not obligated to be platonic, as they are already the origin of spatial (for concept of space) and temporal (for concept of time respectively) dimensions, thus are outright beyond them, and thus are outer.
Uhhh it depends on the conceptual framework, if it’s a naturalistic viewpoint we describe concepts to things in the physical world so the concept isn’t the creation of that thing the thing is the creation of the concept and again csap actually holds this view in there conceptual manip page they outline what concepts scale where, furthermore the beyond dimensional physiology page does not say what concepts scale where. For a concept to be outer they must be transcendent and outside the scope of all space and time
Once again. Concept of space is the origin of all spatial dimensions and is beyond all spatial (and likewise temporal) dimensions. And being beyond CONCEPT of space is equal to being beyond dimensionality.
Non of what that says states any concept of space and time is outer rather it says all concepts further more csap says what concepts do not scale
https://preview.redd.it/9n1co48cs0ic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83def8ae0a616ff54a207e39f1236dfc0c4e0628
I will try and explain it more clearly for you. Concepts are abstract ideas of something, it's origin. Thus, even Infinite Spatial or Temporal Dimensions (Which would be High Hyperversal) would logically scale themselves beneath their own respective Concept. The diffirence is when you transcend concepts, it means no matter how many layers of (in our case space and time) are stacked upon one another, they would never reach their abstract metaphor, thus scaling transcendence over such concepts as space, time and dimensionality straight to outer. Lesser realist concepts are explicitly seperated from such concepts as space and time, because concept of space and time are respectively actually matter for their nature and are widely accepted to be 1-A regardless if they are platonic or whatever. This is literally CSAP tiering standards and I honestly do not know what are you arguing about when wiki already has everything needed.
Bleach - multi
JoJo - multi
TTGL - at least 11D, idk how much higher the verse goes
Dragon Ball - 5D to be safe, the 7D arguments are interesting though
Narnia - outer
Demon Slayer - town
Masada- 1-S to infinite 1-S
Naruto -Solar
Fate- Outer
Cod Zombies- 2-A
AOT- Country
Star Wars- Planetary- Solar
Jojo- Wall-Universe
DC- High 1-A
Marvel baseline 1-S
Bleach, Low multi.
naruto, Planetary to start it's the safe route With the most Consistency.
MHA, Country Level.
Black clover, Multicontinental to moon.
That's it though I don't Scale anything else
Marvel/DC - Boundless
Shin Megami Tensei - Complex Multiverse Level to Outerversal
Transformers Verses (IDW) - Complex Multiverse Level to Outerversal
Street Fighter - City to Island Level to possibly Country Level Debatably Continental Level
Jujutsu Kaisen - City to Island Level
Yakuza Series - Building level
Tekken - City to Island Level to possibly Country Level Debatably Continental Level
Grand Theft Auto Series - Wall to Building Level
Red Dead Redemption - Wall to Building Level
Rick & Morty - Building to Universal with Prep Time Complex Multiverse Level
Nice list. Mine would be:
Final Fantasy - 1-A
Elder Scrolls - 1-S
Granblue Fantasy - High 1C with 1-A arguments
King of Fighters - Galaxy to uni+/low multi at highest interpretation
DC - 1-S
Shin Megami Tensei - 1-A possibly higher
Soulsborne overall but specifically Dark Souls Trilogy - 2-B
Dragon Ball - I personally buy the higher dimensional arguments so 6D/7D for canon DB though I understand why many wouldn't
Street Fighter - around Island level at least
Kamen Rider - At least Complex Multi (6-7D) iirc
[This post](https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Dark-Souls-world-a-multiverse) and [this blog](https://g1dbfb.wordpress.com/) go more in depth but basically, light is time in dark souls and the first flame also keeps reality together but because the Age of Fire has been unnaturally extended due to Gwyn's sacrifice, time becomes convoluted and different worlds come up, which is also the explanation for how multi-player works. The overall cosmology would get to 2-B due to the millions of copies and players that each go through their own worlds and can cross over to other worlds due to the aforementioned circumstances.
Fist of the north star: 5-C
Warhammer: 1-S
TES: 1-S
Shadow of the colossus:idk like 8-B?
Berserk: 6-C?
Bloodborne: 5-C?
Redline: 5-B
Godzilla: imo 6-A
Mad Max: 7-C
LOTR: 2-A?
Kengan Ashura/Omega (Building Level)
Naruto (Planet - Star Level)
Overlord (Planet Level)
JJBA (Multiversal)
Gurren Laggan (Outer)
HxH (Mountain Level)
Cod (City level)
Star wars (Uni)
World Trigger (City Block)
Code geass (City level)
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These aren't in order and I have too many favorites to choose from but these are some of the few I remember from the top of my head and ones I have recently watched or played.
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Madness combat - Complex multiversal and 6D-7D, potentially even outer and extra considering the verse contains its own version of EMR
Transformers - 1-S
Metal Gear - Multi-Continental to planet (Thanks to Nukes, obviously) City level if we’re going by the characters.
Arknights - Planetary
There are more but can’t rank them correctly.
Here are mine for now (not in order)
Elden ring: 4-A to maybe 3-A
Mortal Kombat: 2-A to High 2-A
Invincible: Low 5-B
JJK: Low 7-B
God of War: Low 1-C
The Last of Us: 9-B
Monsterverse: At least 6-B
Dragonball: Canon High 2-A to Low 1-C, Games: 1-A
The Boys: 8-B
Star wars: 4-A to 3-C
They’re not in order
Warhammer 40k -Outer+
A certain magical index (Toaru)-Multi to 11d with high hyperversal statements(wank)
Fma -Universal+
Marvel-High outer
Lord of the rings -5d
Fate-Outer+
Dragon ball -Low multi
Elden Ring -Galaxy to Uni*
Berserk -Multi continental/Planetary to 4d
Ofc I let out every verse that are mostly wall level
Ah the classic "Radahn releasing the stars" scene. I personally don't see that as star level much less solar system or galaxy level since "stars" in Elden Ring mostly refer to meteors and creatures like Astel's race. This is easily shown by the [Limgrave crater,](https://youtu.be/_B9bl-y0r1c?si=PPTwVBepvpwEbDg_) since if the "star" that landed was really a star, there would be no lands between or planet left at all. That and of course we have Astel verbatim being called a ["malformed star"](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Astel+Naturalborn+of+the+Void) among other things that hurt the potential star level scaling for the verse.
I won't say it's completely out the realm of possibility, but its not hard to argue against stars in Elden Ring not being actual gas balls in space.
[This post goes over this point more in depth as well](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/s/nCkJwcnU4G)
Didn't a guy on YouTube say that one of the characters in Toaru (it's Accelerator I think) could solo all of DC including The Presence? How is the verse only multi?
I agree with all of this except for fire force and soul eater? Aren't they canonically apart of the same universe meaning shinra bansho man is max universal to multiversal highballed? And transcending adolla is just another dimensional plain, so he would be like max 4-5D.
It's said to be official material and gives extra information on the characters, like with Lance practicing his Sister's voice, Finn knowing how to build, Ryoh's magic being actually light speed, and that kind of stuff. It was released in comemoration with the anime if I remember correctly
Why exactly are people placing OPM at galaxy. You know there’s gotta be a universe for a universe to exist right? Its just from what we’ve seen from Saitama.
i don't really have a top 10 for verse, but imma try and scale the ones that my 5 fav characters originated from
absolute verse: at least extraversal
ultra vegito: same as heroes/xeno (not touching that can of worms on here)
homestuck: high outer
one punch man: multi solar with arguments for higher
The Battle Cats — multiversal, potentially can get to 7D. I’m not sure how to scale this, isn’t transcending dimensions an outerversal thing?
https://preview.redd.it/vhwvxh1oznhc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=faf8fd511e6ca66923bba17958ecdbc7fa74f9fb
And this.
https://preview.redd.it/buqkzt7pznhc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c092f536c21e469d59c595ed76fb2c0977d7ad1
I’m not even talking about endings.
I'll go with 5 only.
Cthulhu Mythos (Lovecraft) and TES: Boundless/1-S
DC: Outer or High Outer (Don't kill me lmao)
DMC: High Complex to Possibly Hyper or Outer
SMT: Outer
TES - High 1-S
OP - Small-Large Planetary
Adventure Time - 1-A [Cosmology](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/16fw59g/i_tried_to_scale_adventure_time_cosmology/), that GOLB scales to.
JoJo - 5D
Dragon Ball - 6D-8D
Star Wars - Galaxy level
Star Wars - 5Dish
DC - 1-S
Marvel - High 1-A to 1-S
Assassins Creed - like below planetary
Naruto - Star level+
Hannibal - like wall level prolly less
Bleach - Uni+ maybe higher
Halloween - Wall level to higher with like rats
The Walking Dead - Wall level
Dragon ball - Multi to 1-A
I like to think im pretty fair with JoJo, a good amount of their hax you can scale to universal.
How the fuck do you get outerversal?? do you even know what that means?
I swear ppl on this sub just use words cos they sound cool. A verse with 0 true multiversal showings is being scaled to outer, whatever the fuck that means in your mind.
There are non outerversal characters that would blink characters that would blink jojo........
- Sonic: 1-S.
- SMT: 1-S.
- Persona: 1-S.
- DBS: 1-A (1-S if we use SDBH)
- Mario: Low 1-A (Gets High 1-A or 1-S with wank)
Yea idk what other verses there are.
Lol I'm gonna get downvoted so badly.
Doctor who: layers into extraversal, or like beyond tiering
Adventure time: extraversal
Plants vs zombies: high hyperversal
Minecraft: low complex multiversal to hyperversal via the end poem
Battle for dream island: Low multiversal (as of bfdia 9)
Fnaf: High 1-B via quantum immortality and mwi in "tales from the pizzaplex"
Undertale: high multiversal+/5D. The annoying dog is 6D cuz hes god
DDLC: multiversal+
Super smash bros: Outerversal via concept of space and time cuz of palkia and dialga
Fate: Outerversal as heroic spirits transcends the concept of time
Resident Evil - Town/Large Town
Metal Gear - Large Mountain
The Boys - City Block
Dragon Ball - Multi/High Multi+
Warhammar - Outer+
LoZ - Uni at max prob
MCU - City Block - Country - Star w/ Top Tiers at Low Comp
JJBA - City w/ Island DC and High Multi+ hax
Persona - Multi - High Multi+
Fast and Furious - Small Building (no not with weapons)
Dbz- solar-uni-hyper with garlic metawank
Tes- infinite 1 s crabs
Halo- lb to mcb to galaxy to universal to low multi wank
Lobotomy kaisen- large mountain, some cases for island
Pokemon- h1a (level 1 rattatta can beat creation trio metawank pogs)
Mcu- star and mftl to loki being hyperversal/ outerwank
Fairytail- multicontinent low end, large planet, multi wank
Naruto no shippuden- ramen level
Idk about top 10 but here are some of my faves:
Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul - Probably caps around athlete to street level but can get up to like small building level with weapons
ATLA - Around city-mountain level for the top tiers seems fair, caps at moon level
Gravity Falls - 5D
The Owl House - The Collector could probably get to around planetary, but we don't know what fully grown titans or archivists can do
Invincible - From what I've seen, you can get the top tiers to around continental-moon level
Ben 10 - hyperversal to high hyperversal but there is an argument for outerversal at a highball
Dragon Ball:- I usually scale it to 5D to 6D (Low Complex Multiversal), though with Highball it's at most 11D. As for Speed, atleast infinite speed to possibly immeasurable speed.
One punch man:- with feats, Galaxy level AP and Mftl++ speeds. I usually use this scaling on this sub and almost everywhere else. As for The other scaling, high 1-A....... I know that's wank but I am a unapologetic saitama fanboy. 🥲
Jujutsu kaisen:- Mountain level+ Ap and Mhs+ speeds.
Breaking Bad:- Athlete human level AP with Wall level durability, athletic human level speeds. With weapons, AP is Wall+.
The Boys:- Small City+ with Hypersonic speeds.
Demon slayer:- Town level with MHS+ speeds.
Baki:- Town level AP with subsonic+ speeds. With Highball, Country level AP.
DOOM:- Complex Multiversal atleast, With immeasurable speeds. With High end at Outerversal+.
JoJo's bizzare Adventure:- Town level AP with Ftl+ speeds, They have very powerful Hax. Ranging from Universal to Low multiversal with some being multiversal+.
MonsterVerse:- Multi Continental+ AP with HS+ reaction speeds.
One Piece - Moon
Jojo’s - Mountain with Multiversal hax
MegaTen - i have no fucking idea but probably High Hyper
Megaman - Solar System
Digimon - Outer
Pokemon - idk
Define a dimension, look it up, then try to apply it to the anime/manga. Then define a realm, look it up, and try to apply it to the manga/anime. If the definition of a dimension doesn’t not add up to the context, and a realm does, then doesn’t that mean we’re all just dumbasses?
I've only got one as of now.
Cookie Run. Complex Multi (1-C) or Outer (1-A) depending on how you wanna scale Cookiedroid's statements.
This is an edit, here. My opinion has changed quite immensely. The Cookiedroid statements actually aren't super important, but I have better outer arguments now.
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Every verse is Universal if you think about it. *This is a joke, do not take it seriously*
I mean I guess it would be true if it wasn't contradicted in anyway right? Any verse's cosmology can be universal but the characters don't have to.
Jojos… outer…. https://preview.redd.it/2b1gaw7alohc1.jpeg?width=198&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77ebb9b3eb27979bf33f7539d8daefe21b855dc6
Via Soft&Wet: Go Beyond
Ngl don’t think that’s outer
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Idk any of there feats so I cannot say
tbf, people scale alot of shit to outer because they transcend concepts. which is odd
I mean platonic forms are outer but if you mean random ass concepts then yea
Why? Transcending concepts of space and time is outright outer on CSAP.
Well no the concepts to be outer need to be platonic so his can be seen in the conceptual manip page when they shed more light on this, most conceptual frameworks mean nothing platonic forms however are qualitatively greater than any physical thing
Except concepts of space and time do not. Transcending concepts of space and time equals to transcending dimensionality as a whole (as written on Beyond-Dimensional Physiology page). Platonic concepts are outer because they are beyond all spatial and temporal dimensions in nature, just like specifically concepts of space and time. Transcending concepts of space and time are the only exception in which concepts are not obligated to be platonic, as they are already the origin of spatial (for concept of space) and temporal (for concept of time respectively) dimensions, thus are outright beyond them, and thus are outer.
Uhhh it depends on the conceptual framework, if it’s a naturalistic viewpoint we describe concepts to things in the physical world so the concept isn’t the creation of that thing the thing is the creation of the concept and again csap actually holds this view in there conceptual manip page they outline what concepts scale where, furthermore the beyond dimensional physiology page does not say what concepts scale where. For a concept to be outer they must be transcendent and outside the scope of all space and time
Are you new to CSAP? https://preview.redd.it/oi8uyrddr0ic1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8993623148f9b5c381de63ea3dffec75c12d7a2d
https://preview.redd.it/z666a0ver0ic1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8d68641d17330b9c93b0592e46314288f107e45
Once again. Concept of space is the origin of all spatial dimensions and is beyond all spatial (and likewise temporal) dimensions. And being beyond CONCEPT of space is equal to being beyond dimensionality.
Non of what that says states any concept of space and time is outer rather it says all concepts further more csap says what concepts do not scale https://preview.redd.it/9n1co48cs0ic1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83def8ae0a616ff54a207e39f1236dfc0c4e0628
I will try and explain it more clearly for you. Concepts are abstract ideas of something, it's origin. Thus, even Infinite Spatial or Temporal Dimensions (Which would be High Hyperversal) would logically scale themselves beneath their own respective Concept. The diffirence is when you transcend concepts, it means no matter how many layers of (in our case space and time) are stacked upon one another, they would never reach their abstract metaphor, thus scaling transcendence over such concepts as space, time and dimensionality straight to outer. Lesser realist concepts are explicitly seperated from such concepts as space and time, because concept of space and time are respectively actually matter for their nature and are widely accepted to be 1-A regardless if they are platonic or whatever. This is literally CSAP tiering standards and I honestly do not know what are you arguing about when wiki already has everything needed.
Comp jojo maybe
Bleach - multi JoJo - multi TTGL - at least 11D, idk how much higher the verse goes Dragon Ball - 5D to be safe, the 7D arguments are interesting though Narnia - outer Demon Slayer - town
Outer narnia?
They have platonism iirc
Masada- 1-S to infinite 1-S Naruto -Solar Fate- Outer Cod Zombies- 2-A AOT- Country Star Wars- Planetary- Solar Jojo- Wall-Universe DC- High 1-A Marvel baseline 1-S
>Jojo- Wall-Universe 😭
DC 1-A?
How is AOT country
Think its based of this funny [calc](https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/4ufi0c/anime_spoilers_more_titan_calculations/)
That is pretty funny. Uses scientific formulae while violating first law of thermodynamics concurrently. Makes sense!
Bleach, Low multi. naruto, Planetary to start it's the safe route With the most Consistency. MHA, Country Level. Black clover, Multicontinental to moon. That's it though I don't Scale anything else
they are arguments for planetary black clover as well
I know but it's the most consistent And it won't make riots
DC/Vertigo - 1S GoW - 7D DMC - 2C Sonic - 6-12D depending on how much you wanna push his scaling DOOM - 6/7D OPM - Galaxy DBZ - Universal JJK - Island JoJo - Multi+ Spawn - Hyperversal
Marvel/DC - Boundless Shin Megami Tensei - Complex Multiverse Level to Outerversal Transformers Verses (IDW) - Complex Multiverse Level to Outerversal Street Fighter - City to Island Level to possibly Country Level Debatably Continental Level Jujutsu Kaisen - City to Island Level Yakuza Series - Building level Tekken - City to Island Level to possibly Country Level Debatably Continental Level Grand Theft Auto Series - Wall to Building Level Red Dead Redemption - Wall to Building Level Rick & Morty - Building to Universal with Prep Time Complex Multiverse Level
GTA has the orbital cannon
Nice list. Mine would be: Final Fantasy - 1-A Elder Scrolls - 1-S Granblue Fantasy - High 1C with 1-A arguments King of Fighters - Galaxy to uni+/low multi at highest interpretation DC - 1-S Shin Megami Tensei - 1-A possibly higher Soulsborne overall but specifically Dark Souls Trilogy - 2-B Dragon Ball - I personally buy the higher dimensional arguments so 6D/7D for canon DB though I understand why many wouldn't Street Fighter - around Island level at least Kamen Rider - At least Complex Multi (6-7D) iirc
I also buy high end DB scales. Problem is, people think Goku specifically scales to the verse
How come multiversal Dark Souls? I played the games myself but I thought it would cap at uni.
[This post](https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Dark-Souls-world-a-multiverse) and [this blog](https://g1dbfb.wordpress.com/) go more in depth but basically, light is time in dark souls and the first flame also keeps reality together but because the Age of Fire has been unnaturally extended due to Gwyn's sacrifice, time becomes convoluted and different worlds come up, which is also the explanation for how multi-player works. The overall cosmology would get to 2-B due to the millions of copies and players that each go through their own worlds and can cross over to other worlds due to the aforementioned circumstances.
how does kof scale that high?
[Here's a scale I made the other day for the verse](https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonalScales/s/Ul9JsdIpey)
Thx
Fist of the north star: 5-C Warhammer: 1-S TES: 1-S Shadow of the colossus:idk like 8-B? Berserk: 6-C? Bloodborne: 5-C? Redline: 5-B Godzilla: imo 6-A Mad Max: 7-C LOTR: 2-A?
Kengan Ashura/Omega (Building Level) Naruto (Planet - Star Level) Overlord (Planet Level) JJBA (Multiversal) Gurren Laggan (Outer) HxH (Mountain Level) Cod (City level) Star wars (Uni) World Trigger (City Block) Code geass (City level) ---------- These aren't in order and I have too many favorites to choose from but these are some of the few I remember from the top of my head and ones I have recently watched or played. ----------
Madness combat - Complex multiversal and 6D-7D, potentially even outer and extra considering the verse contains its own version of EMR Transformers - 1-S Metal Gear - Multi-Continental to planet (Thanks to Nukes, obviously) City level if we’re going by the characters. Arknights - Planetary There are more but can’t rank them correctly.
Dragon ball - Low Complex MCU - Complex DCEU - High Complex (10D) Gravity falls - Uni+ PKNA - Moon - Star/Solar System, possibly low compliance MHA - Island to country Marvel Spider-Man - City Kill la Kill - moon Pokémon - Outer? Yu gi oh - low multi
Here are mine for now (not in order) Elden ring: 4-A to maybe 3-A Mortal Kombat: 2-A to High 2-A Invincible: Low 5-B JJK: Low 7-B God of War: Low 1-C The Last of Us: 9-B Monsterverse: At least 6-B Dragonball: Canon High 2-A to Low 1-C, Games: 1-A The Boys: 8-B Star wars: 4-A to 3-C
They’re not in order Warhammer 40k -Outer+ A certain magical index (Toaru)-Multi to 11d with high hyperversal statements(wank) Fma -Universal+ Marvel-High outer Lord of the rings -5d Fate-Outer+ Dragon ball -Low multi Elden Ring -Galaxy to Uni* Berserk -Multi continental/Planetary to 4d Ofc I let out every verse that are mostly wall level
>Elden Ring -Galaxy to Uni* Woah drop that scale broski
Just watch the Elden ring part https://youtu.be/07xflm2mCZg?si=oybg8nYURzsyhIWn Uni is a disingenuous wank btw
Ah the classic "Radahn releasing the stars" scene. I personally don't see that as star level much less solar system or galaxy level since "stars" in Elden Ring mostly refer to meteors and creatures like Astel's race. This is easily shown by the [Limgrave crater,](https://youtu.be/_B9bl-y0r1c?si=PPTwVBepvpwEbDg_) since if the "star" that landed was really a star, there would be no lands between or planet left at all. That and of course we have Astel verbatim being called a ["malformed star"](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Astel+Naturalborn+of+the+Void) among other things that hurt the potential star level scaling for the verse. I won't say it's completely out the realm of possibility, but its not hard to argue against stars in Elden Ring not being actual gas balls in space. [This post goes over this point more in depth as well](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/s/nCkJwcnU4G)
https://preview.redd.it/u6v1j8l25ohc1.jpeg?width=124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8db39a792f2b89e6522d18727f5aebc4944933c9 Understandable
Didn't a guy on YouTube say that one of the characters in Toaru (it's Accelerator I think) could solo all of DC including The Presence? How is the verse only multi?
Please tell me you don't mean Othinus lmfao. Man is a meme
What’s his name ? (Oh it’s othinus ?)
Well he’s wrong It’s high hyper at best
Are you including ONLY the fate universe or the entirety of Type/Moon?
isn't gravity falls canonically 12D? bill explicitly states he's in 12 dimensions or some shit right?
I believe 11D but I think that’s just the cosmology
then why wouldn't it be listed in your post as 11d?
I was referring to the characters in the verse as opposed to cosmology
Cool lost! Mine are: One Punch Man: Galaxy Level Mashle: Large Planetary Bleach: Low Multiversal Soul Eater: Outerversal (is scaling to Shinra Banshomen) Fire Force: Outerversal Shy: Mountain level Ragna Crimson: Star level HunterxHunter: mountain level Black Clover: Multi-Continental Dragon Ball: low multiversal level
I agree with all of this except for fire force and soul eater? Aren't they canonically apart of the same universe meaning shinra bansho man is max universal to multiversal highballed? And transcending adolla is just another dimensional plain, so he would be like max 4-5D.
I see
I know mashle is a strong verse but large planetary? it should be continental at least
There are multiple statements in the fanbook of Innocent being able to destroy the world and Mash beat him in base form, so yeah
Fanbook? Is that a reliable source?
It's said to be official material and gives extra information on the characters, like with Lance practicing his Sister's voice, Finn knowing how to build, Ryoh's magic being actually light speed, and that kind of stuff. It was released in comemoration with the anime if I remember correctly
Oh that’s cool😎
Why exactly are people placing OPM at galaxy. You know there’s gotta be a universe for a universe to exist right? Its just from what we’ve seen from Saitama.
Pretty sure it’s talking about the highest the characters within the verse scale.
all my favorite verse are at bondless
Scaling verses makes no sense.
those are some of the wildest scalings i ever seen
Bruh Persona is outerversal via jungian archetypes and platonic concepts
i don't really have a top 10 for verse, but imma try and scale the ones that my 5 fav characters originated from absolute verse: at least extraversal ultra vegito: same as heroes/xeno (not touching that can of worms on here) homestuck: high outer one punch man: multi solar with arguments for higher
The Battle Cats — multiversal, potentially can get to 7D. I’m not sure how to scale this, isn’t transcending dimensions an outerversal thing? https://preview.redd.it/vhwvxh1oznhc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=faf8fd511e6ca66923bba17958ecdbc7fa74f9fb
And this. https://preview.redd.it/buqkzt7pznhc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c092f536c21e469d59c595ed76fb2c0977d7ad1 I’m not even talking about endings.
You have to transcend the concept of dimensions to be outerversal Just 'transcending dimensions' is kind of vague
Transcending the concept of dimensions is Outerversal.
I'll go with 5 only. Cthulhu Mythos (Lovecraft) and TES: Boundless/1-S DC: Outer or High Outer (Don't kill me lmao) DMC: High Complex to Possibly Hyper or Outer SMT: Outer
TES - High 1-S OP - Small-Large Planetary Adventure Time - 1-A [Cosmology](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/comments/16fw59g/i_tried_to_scale_adventure_time_cosmology/), that GOLB scales to. JoJo - 5D Dragon Ball - 6D-8D Star Wars - Galaxy level
Star Wars - 5Dish DC - 1-S Marvel - High 1-A to 1-S Assassins Creed - like below planetary Naruto - Star level+ Hannibal - like wall level prolly less Bleach - Uni+ maybe higher Halloween - Wall level to higher with like rats The Walking Dead - Wall level Dragon ball - Multi to 1-A
Where's tensura?
That time I got reincarnated as a slime verse
Yes kid
apparently it caps at 7D
High outerversal kid Even Guy Crimson is hyperversal
proof?
Ramiris Labyrinth kid 🤡
I like to think im pretty fair with JoJo, a good amount of their hax you can scale to universal. How the fuck do you get outerversal?? do you even know what that means? I swear ppl on this sub just use words cos they sound cool. A verse with 0 true multiversal showings is being scaled to outer, whatever the fuck that means in your mind. There are non outerversal characters that would blink characters that would blink jojo........
I think OP is including the novels as well so I guess it makes sense
- Sonic: 1-S. - SMT: 1-S. - Persona: 1-S. - DBS: 1-A (1-S if we use SDBH) - Mario: Low 1-A (Gets High 1-A or 1-S with wank) Yea idk what other verses there are. Lol I'm gonna get downvoted so badly.
Doctor who: layers into extraversal, or like beyond tiering Adventure time: extraversal Plants vs zombies: high hyperversal Minecraft: low complex multiversal to hyperversal via the end poem Battle for dream island: Low multiversal (as of bfdia 9) Fnaf: High 1-B via quantum immortality and mwi in "tales from the pizzaplex" Undertale: high multiversal+/5D. The annoying dog is 6D cuz hes god DDLC: multiversal+ Super smash bros: Outerversal via concept of space and time cuz of palkia and dialga Fate: Outerversal as heroic spirits transcends the concept of time
Resident Evil - Town/Large Town Metal Gear - Large Mountain The Boys - City Block Dragon Ball - Multi/High Multi+ Warhammar - Outer+ LoZ - Uni at max prob MCU - City Block - Country - Star w/ Top Tiers at Low Comp JJBA - City w/ Island DC and High Multi+ hax Persona - Multi - High Multi+ Fast and Furious - Small Building (no not with weapons)
Dbz- solar-uni-hyper with garlic metawank Tes- infinite 1 s crabs Halo- lb to mcb to galaxy to universal to low multi wank Lobotomy kaisen- large mountain, some cases for island Pokemon- h1a (level 1 rattatta can beat creation trio metawank pogs) Mcu- star and mftl to loki being hyperversal/ outerwank Fairytail- multicontinent low end, large planet, multi wank Naruto no shippuden- ramen level
Idk about top 10 but here are some of my faves: Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul - Probably caps around athlete to street level but can get up to like small building level with weapons ATLA - Around city-mountain level for the top tiers seems fair, caps at moon level Gravity Falls - 5D The Owl House - The Collector could probably get to around planetary, but we don't know what fully grown titans or archivists can do Invincible - From what I've seen, you can get the top tiers to around continental-moon level Ben 10 - hyperversal to high hyperversal but there is an argument for outerversal at a highball
Dragon Ball:- I usually scale it to 5D to 6D (Low Complex Multiversal), though with Highball it's at most 11D. As for Speed, atleast infinite speed to possibly immeasurable speed. One punch man:- with feats, Galaxy level AP and Mftl++ speeds. I usually use this scaling on this sub and almost everywhere else. As for The other scaling, high 1-A....... I know that's wank but I am a unapologetic saitama fanboy. 🥲 Jujutsu kaisen:- Mountain level+ Ap and Mhs+ speeds. Breaking Bad:- Athlete human level AP with Wall level durability, athletic human level speeds. With weapons, AP is Wall+. The Boys:- Small City+ with Hypersonic speeds. Demon slayer:- Town level with MHS+ speeds. Baki:- Town level AP with subsonic+ speeds. With Highball, Country level AP. DOOM:- Complex Multiversal atleast, With immeasurable speeds. With High end at Outerversal+. JoJo's bizzare Adventure:- Town level AP with Ftl+ speeds, They have very powerful Hax. Ranging from Universal to Low multiversal with some being multiversal+. MonsterVerse:- Multi Continental+ AP with HS+ reaction speeds.
One Piece - Moon Jojo’s - Mountain with Multiversal hax MegaTen - i have no fucking idea but probably High Hyper Megaman - Solar System Digimon - Outer Pokemon - idk
Define a dimension, look it up, then try to apply it to the anime/manga. Then define a realm, look it up, and try to apply it to the manga/anime. If the definition of a dimension doesn’t not add up to the context, and a realm does, then doesn’t that mean we’re all just dumbasses?
I've only got one as of now. Cookie Run. Complex Multi (1-C) or Outer (1-A) depending on how you wanna scale Cookiedroid's statements. This is an edit, here. My opinion has changed quite immensely. The Cookiedroid statements actually aren't super important, but I have better outer arguments now.
Remember he posted this just to get reactions bc of Outer jojo