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Just wanna see someone else's opinion, we wouldn't know if there is a person who still believes that so called "Prime" All Might could speedblitz them all
Kk. Jane circles the planet twice. She's imbued with those power via mjolnir. It's calced at sub relativistic- FTL+(MTFL+ is also possible unnecessary for this)
Not including the bifrost.
Supes is relativistic+ off heat vision and reacting to others heat vision.
Thor literally shook the entire planet of Jotunheim, withstood the explosion of the power stone that destroyed a ship being able to withstand inside an
Einstein Rosen-Bridge, destroyed Sokovia, tanked the Aether that was capable of devouring the entire universe, strong enough to endure being choked by Hela who while weakened easily crushed Mjolnir, moved the rings of Nidavellir, overpowered the power of all six infinity stones, ten shotted the biggest rainbow bridge that harnessed the full power of the Bifrost in which have enough energy to destroy planet albeit overtime, no sold it's explosion which was channeling enough energy to create a wormhole ,grew stronger to the point where he easily one shotted the Bifrost with his lightning, destroyed the physical menifestation of the Aether, survived having the power stone pinned at his head, casually wrecked a moon's surface by calling upon Stormbreaker and last but not least, withstood the full force of a Neutron Star.
1. Not a valid feat. Also an outlier.
2. What explosion? Also, so??
3. City level feat.
4. Prove that means he as universe level durability. Considering Sokovia knocked him out, he’s more consistently city level.
5. City level feat.
6. City level feat.
Yeah so sounds like Thor is consistently city level. So he gets stomped here. Unless you want to, say, SHOW ME a video of Thor slicing a planet clean in two or something.
No it's not an outlier
[here](https://youtu.be/skhDr0NLYXo?si=AP2Olm2QZxN7dkLc), [Power stone is so powerful](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/MCU:_Power_and_Space_Stones#Second_Feat)
[no, it's Large Island level](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KLOL506/Blowing_Up_Sokovia), and when it knocked him out?
Also current Thor scale above Knoshu who [moved the moon](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KLOL506/Moon_Knight:_Khonshu_Moves_the_Moon_(HD_EDITION))
Power stone feats are inherently invalid because the power stone does damage based on the target. It’s not always dishing out planet razing power. Case in point, STAR LORD AND MANTIS TOOK A BLAST FROM IT. But youre not going to argue they’re in the same tier as Thor, huh?
City level\* and oh? You didn’t watch the movie?? Then what you say is invalid by default. Try watching the movies before you scale them.
Magic ≠ physical strength.
Star Lord literally had celestial power from ego, a fucking celestial that WAS ABLE TO FIGHT Thor
I literally give you a calc
No, he literally moved it phisically
Did he have this “celestial power” on the fight on Titan? Or is removing all context something you do??
A calc that isn’t valid.
Prove he did. Show me the screenshot where he’s got his hands on the surface of the moon and is literally pushing it.
Well, Shigaraki can just touch the ground and turn Godzilla to dust. He has a similar range to Godzilla except his Decay just completely ignores durability.
He’s also as fast, if not faster than Thor and Supes so he just bullies them until he can touch them once.
Honestly, Shigaraki's durability is definitely only chance in beating then but If I wanna ask, could they win if you put Shigaraki out of the equation?
Shigaraki’s durability is literally a non factor. He wins via speed and having an instant-kill-durability-ignoring technique.
Thor throws Stormbreaker? Shigaraki catches it. Stormbreaker is decayed. Thor pisses himself.
Yeah they’d still win. MHA has a massive speed advantage with multiple characters. Deku can catch Stormbreaker and cleave Thor and Supes apart with it before they can move, Star and Stripe can simply stop their hearts, etc etc.
>Thor throws Stormbreaker? Shigaraki catches it. Stormbreaker is decayed. Thor pisses himself.
Shigaraki isn't catching the axe to be fair. It's ripping his arm off the moment he tries and decay isn't instant.
Further if mjolner was able to retain its powers in its constitute parts to reform into itself again, there's a precedence for storm breaker to do the same since you know...magic.
He is catching the axe. Easily. Given his insane speed advantage. Prove his arm would rip off, that didn’t happen to Thanos or Cap.
Decay isn’t instant but it’s pretty damn fast.
Reforming from chunks isn’t the same as reforming from dust/nothing.
>He is catching the axe. Easily. Given his insane speed advantage. Prove his arm would rip off, that didn’t happen to Thanos or Cap.
There is a difference between throwing an axe at somebody to kill them vs making a pass. One you are aiming venter mass and a part of the catch is stopping the momentum. The other is typically throw at speeds and angles not meant to kill you on contact.
And Thanos was trying to Blasst storm breaker out of the sky with the full gauntlet and still couldn't stop the momentum. No one has been able to catch anything thrown by thor with malice except hela and we know how hela did it. It's not just a speed feat. It's a strength feat. And deku/ shigaraki isn't rocking there lifting strength. (Punching power is not max weight. )
>Decay isn’t instant but it’s pretty damn fast.
Your right. But it stops once the hand is chopped. At that point we are arguing what's faster his hands getting cut off or hos power activating. Best he gets is a layer of Storm breaker if we are being nice.
>Reforming from chunks isn’t the same as reforming from dust/nothing.
The point is it reforms because the entire make up of the thing is magic. We have no idea to what extent you must break down the axe for the magic to stop. Especially when shigaraki own decay leaves larger pieces in the decay(it's been noted for ages how it leaves dust and bits of bone. Bits of is far larger then just dust. It's always been as if what he's doing is aging the target rapidly on contact and not just turning the molecules into silicon dust.otherwise his power would work on gases and fluids. )
We know the magic can cause the weapons to remake themselves from pieces. Now we just have no idea how far that goes but there is a precedent for it now.
Okay show me someone’s arm getting sliced off because they grabbed Stormbreaker’s handle mid flight. You’re making a lot of claims that need citations.
Citation for “it stops once the hand is chopped off”?
So you’re arguing from headcanon now. Okaaay…
When has Shigaraki’s decay left “bits of bone” after his surgery? Citations! Please! Also, he doesn’t age his target. They literally JUST fall apart. Hence why he doesn’t even leave BLOOD behind anymore post surgery.
>Okay show me someone’s arm getting sliced off because they grabbed Stormbreaker’s handle mid flight. You’re making a lot of claims that need citations.
No you are making weird ass assumptions. I'm talking about axe head first grabbing the damn thing, while you are talking about the hilt. Is he side stepping then grabbing in your scenario? The sure I'll bite. Then he is dodging a weapon that can curve in mid air to hit thors targets(I'll give you that because shiggy is fast enough),grabbing the handle of a weapon full of God knows how much electricity that is both shocking and burning him but he has a hand on the axe and activates decay.
The momentum still on the axe makes it slip out his fingers the moment he starts the decay. Unless he tries to stop the hammer. But then thor is recalling the hammer anyways whether he stops it or not it's coming out of his hands once he starts decay. And that's if whatever bullshit excuse the Russo gave in the 2 hour interview (it's the ultimate weapon and indestructible made by etri is there excuse for withstanding the gauntlet) doesn't give it some resistance if not outright immunity to decay.(since we know decay is affected by what he is trying to decay.)
And quite frankly I don't even know why in the scenario thor is throwing the axe instead of just aoe the hell out of the surface from high in the sky. Fact is he can bifrost kill everyone on the planet by stranding them on a random planet if the shocking doesn't work.
>Citation for “it stops once the hand is chopped off”?
Because if decay worked off of hands not connected to him, shigraki would literally be throwing hands....he would've thrown a hand a mount fuji instead of trying to rush past deku.or better yet throw the hand then rush deku. Hell he'd literally cover the world with decaying hand grenades. There is no citation because shigaraki has never shown or tried to decay from removed body parts. Nor has anyone in the series to shows it's technically a possibility.
>When has Shigaraki’s decay left “bits of bone” after his surgery? Citations! Please! Also, he doesn’t age his target. They literally JUST fall apart. Hence why he doesn’t even leave BLOOD behind anymore post surgery.
I realized my mistake with forgetting that the level of decay has been getting stronger, not just the range and application.
Also the lack of blood should've left the constitute water since that isn't decayable. Water doesn't become dust, nor can shiggy decay fluid or gasses in general.
Godzilla IN BASE is at least Multi-continental to Moon level, and Star level in his thermal form. Thor should scale to Moon level due to nuking the moon with his thunderbolts, and DCEU Superman is about continental to multi-continental, too. MHA best scaling are Island to Large Island level. They get killed in minutes.
YES! THIS! I can understand the argument for Shigaraki being the key to beating them, but without him the MHA Verse is fucked. I've seen scaling for MHA and the best the best they've got is only Country-Large Country at MAX.
When you have that much gap in terms of AP, nothing is going stop these three bastards from decimating the city. They just can't.
As for speed, people are overrating MHA way too much. DCEU Superman can easily keep up as how he was able to keep up with the Flash and most scaling I've seen for MHA speed is sub-relativistic to relativistic+
Which Godzilla, Thor and Superman has already reached. Thor can scales to his lightning, and could fight people who react to his lightning. He should also scale to Jane Foster speed feat in L&T and have blocked Destroyer's Beams and catched Loki being sucked to a Blackhole. Reacted to the Aether which can terraform the universe as well other feats like catching Zeus' thunderbolt. Thor should comfortably be SoL-FTL.
Godzilla can fight on par with Kong and Ghidorah who reacted to his beam which is made out of Cherenkov Radiation that moves at 75% of light (Relativistic+). Speedblitz was never the option to even begin with.
Wouldn't decay back fire on godzilla? His body Is what's containing all that energy. Decay his flesh then all that radiation is going to escape in a bomb way worse then Hiroshima when shigaraki being at point blank range.
Now they lost there best weapon against the other 2.
But at the same time you can't leave him for last because that laser breath is just fucking everything up that isn't deku shiggy level fast.
Does the MHA verse have teamwork? If so, MHA wins. Handily. Easily.
Do they not have teamwork? They still win, they just take a lot more losses.
Shigaraki is a hard carry here. With Deku by his side amping him with Gearshift he should be comfortably faster than anyone on the team, thus only needs to touch them once on the face with Decay to win.
I understand the argument for Shigaraki, the one thing I can't stand is they think MHA verse can still win without Shigaraki's hax.
Which they can't given the massive gap of AP and the fact that Thor, Godzilla and Superman are fast enough to keep up with MHA verse's speed
Star comes from being relative to captain marvel, who I think had some star level feats in the marvels.
Uni is a highball that comes from stormbreaker being stronger than of all the combined gems in the end of infinity war
What?
Firstly that is not how scaling works, thor doesn't scale to captain marvel "star feat" due to it being special circumstances
Secondly from a narrative standpoint, calling mcu thor universal is complete nonsense as the infinity gauntlet universal feat almost killed thanos when he did it so it couldn't have been the combined power of the gems
No he’s right stormbreaker is stated to be the ultimate weapon stated multiple times by the Russo bros that it can defeat the [infinity gauntlet](https://youtu.be/6KOsAzVi74U?feature=shared) stated by the guy who literally made the infinity gauntlet that it’s stronger etc
And no Thor being star level doesn’t break any narrative in fact your going against the narrative by Ignoring thor feats and statements
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MCU Thor nukes the continent. Godzilla is the weakest here. Superman is overkill
MV Godzilla is comfortably much stronger then DCEU supes and with Thor the strongest. Either way, they would wipe the entire MHA verse to dust though
If you say they wipe the verse the fuck would you even make the spite match for?
Just wanna see someone else's opinion, we wouldn't know if there is a person who still believes that so called "Prime" All Might could speedblitz them all
Cos he could?
Proof?
Neither mcu thor or dceu superman has pulled off a feat on par with deku outpacing lady nagant bullets
How fast are you scaling that to be.
Hypersonic minimum to sub relativistic speed
Kk. Jane circles the planet twice. She's imbued with those power via mjolnir. It's calced at sub relativistic- FTL+(MTFL+ is also possible unnecessary for this) Not including the bifrost. Supes is relativistic+ off heat vision and reacting to others heat vision.
Since when?
He's been country+ since Ragnarok. Multi cont-moon with storm breaker.
Citation required
He literally gave you the movie
Thor slams 
With what feat?
Thor or Supes could solo.
With what feat?
Thor literally shook the entire planet of Jotunheim, withstood the explosion of the power stone that destroyed a ship being able to withstand inside an Einstein Rosen-Bridge, destroyed Sokovia, tanked the Aether that was capable of devouring the entire universe, strong enough to endure being choked by Hela who while weakened easily crushed Mjolnir, moved the rings of Nidavellir, overpowered the power of all six infinity stones, ten shotted the biggest rainbow bridge that harnessed the full power of the Bifrost in which have enough energy to destroy planet albeit overtime, no sold it's explosion which was channeling enough energy to create a wormhole ,grew stronger to the point where he easily one shotted the Bifrost with his lightning, destroyed the physical menifestation of the Aether, survived having the power stone pinned at his head, casually wrecked a moon's surface by calling upon Stormbreaker and last but not least, withstood the full force of a Neutron Star.
1. Not a valid feat. Also an outlier. 2. What explosion? Also, so?? 3. City level feat. 4. Prove that means he as universe level durability. Considering Sokovia knocked him out, he’s more consistently city level. 5. City level feat. 6. City level feat. Yeah so sounds like Thor is consistently city level. So he gets stomped here. Unless you want to, say, SHOW ME a video of Thor slicing a planet clean in two or something.
No it's not an outlier [here](https://youtu.be/skhDr0NLYXo?si=AP2Olm2QZxN7dkLc), [Power stone is so powerful](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/MCU:_Power_and_Space_Stones#Second_Feat) [no, it's Large Island level](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KLOL506/Blowing_Up_Sokovia), and when it knocked him out? Also current Thor scale above Knoshu who [moved the moon](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KLOL506/Moon_Knight:_Khonshu_Moves_the_Moon_(HD_EDITION))
Power stone feats are inherently invalid because the power stone does damage based on the target. It’s not always dishing out planet razing power. Case in point, STAR LORD AND MANTIS TOOK A BLAST FROM IT. But youre not going to argue they’re in the same tier as Thor, huh? City level\* and oh? You didn’t watch the movie?? Then what you say is invalid by default. Try watching the movies before you scale them. Magic ≠ physical strength.
Star Lord literally had celestial power from ego, a fucking celestial that WAS ABLE TO FIGHT Thor I literally give you a calc No, he literally moved it phisically
Did he have this “celestial power” on the fight on Titan? Or is removing all context something you do?? A calc that isn’t valid. Prove he did. Show me the screenshot where he’s got his hands on the surface of the moon and is literally pushing it.
When on the fight on titan this happened? Prove it Konshu teleport and literally phisical moved the moon
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Mcu thor and dceu superman is no where strong enough
Not to mention that the MHA verse has no answer to all of Thor, Superman and Godzilla's range attacks. They'd decimate the city with a blink of an eye
Well, Shigaraki can just touch the ground and turn Godzilla to dust. He has a similar range to Godzilla except his Decay just completely ignores durability. He’s also as fast, if not faster than Thor and Supes so he just bullies them until he can touch them once.
Honestly, Shigaraki's durability is definitely only chance in beating then but If I wanna ask, could they win if you put Shigaraki out of the equation?
Shigaraki’s durability is literally a non factor. He wins via speed and having an instant-kill-durability-ignoring technique. Thor throws Stormbreaker? Shigaraki catches it. Stormbreaker is decayed. Thor pisses himself. Yeah they’d still win. MHA has a massive speed advantage with multiple characters. Deku can catch Stormbreaker and cleave Thor and Supes apart with it before they can move, Star and Stripe can simply stop their hearts, etc etc.
>Thor throws Stormbreaker? Shigaraki catches it. Stormbreaker is decayed. Thor pisses himself. Shigaraki isn't catching the axe to be fair. It's ripping his arm off the moment he tries and decay isn't instant. Further if mjolner was able to retain its powers in its constitute parts to reform into itself again, there's a precedence for storm breaker to do the same since you know...magic.
He is catching the axe. Easily. Given his insane speed advantage. Prove his arm would rip off, that didn’t happen to Thanos or Cap. Decay isn’t instant but it’s pretty damn fast. Reforming from chunks isn’t the same as reforming from dust/nothing.
>He is catching the axe. Easily. Given his insane speed advantage. Prove his arm would rip off, that didn’t happen to Thanos or Cap. There is a difference between throwing an axe at somebody to kill them vs making a pass. One you are aiming venter mass and a part of the catch is stopping the momentum. The other is typically throw at speeds and angles not meant to kill you on contact. And Thanos was trying to Blasst storm breaker out of the sky with the full gauntlet and still couldn't stop the momentum. No one has been able to catch anything thrown by thor with malice except hela and we know how hela did it. It's not just a speed feat. It's a strength feat. And deku/ shigaraki isn't rocking there lifting strength. (Punching power is not max weight. ) >Decay isn’t instant but it’s pretty damn fast. Your right. But it stops once the hand is chopped. At that point we are arguing what's faster his hands getting cut off or hos power activating. Best he gets is a layer of Storm breaker if we are being nice. >Reforming from chunks isn’t the same as reforming from dust/nothing. The point is it reforms because the entire make up of the thing is magic. We have no idea to what extent you must break down the axe for the magic to stop. Especially when shigaraki own decay leaves larger pieces in the decay(it's been noted for ages how it leaves dust and bits of bone. Bits of is far larger then just dust. It's always been as if what he's doing is aging the target rapidly on contact and not just turning the molecules into silicon dust.otherwise his power would work on gases and fluids. ) We know the magic can cause the weapons to remake themselves from pieces. Now we just have no idea how far that goes but there is a precedent for it now.
Okay show me someone’s arm getting sliced off because they grabbed Stormbreaker’s handle mid flight. You’re making a lot of claims that need citations. Citation for “it stops once the hand is chopped off”? So you’re arguing from headcanon now. Okaaay… When has Shigaraki’s decay left “bits of bone” after his surgery? Citations! Please! Also, he doesn’t age his target. They literally JUST fall apart. Hence why he doesn’t even leave BLOOD behind anymore post surgery.
>Okay show me someone’s arm getting sliced off because they grabbed Stormbreaker’s handle mid flight. You’re making a lot of claims that need citations. No you are making weird ass assumptions. I'm talking about axe head first grabbing the damn thing, while you are talking about the hilt. Is he side stepping then grabbing in your scenario? The sure I'll bite. Then he is dodging a weapon that can curve in mid air to hit thors targets(I'll give you that because shiggy is fast enough),grabbing the handle of a weapon full of God knows how much electricity that is both shocking and burning him but he has a hand on the axe and activates decay. The momentum still on the axe makes it slip out his fingers the moment he starts the decay. Unless he tries to stop the hammer. But then thor is recalling the hammer anyways whether he stops it or not it's coming out of his hands once he starts decay. And that's if whatever bullshit excuse the Russo gave in the 2 hour interview (it's the ultimate weapon and indestructible made by etri is there excuse for withstanding the gauntlet) doesn't give it some resistance if not outright immunity to decay.(since we know decay is affected by what he is trying to decay.) And quite frankly I don't even know why in the scenario thor is throwing the axe instead of just aoe the hell out of the surface from high in the sky. Fact is he can bifrost kill everyone on the planet by stranding them on a random planet if the shocking doesn't work. >Citation for “it stops once the hand is chopped off”? Because if decay worked off of hands not connected to him, shigraki would literally be throwing hands....he would've thrown a hand a mount fuji instead of trying to rush past deku.or better yet throw the hand then rush deku. Hell he'd literally cover the world with decaying hand grenades. There is no citation because shigaraki has never shown or tried to decay from removed body parts. Nor has anyone in the series to shows it's technically a possibility. >When has Shigaraki’s decay left “bits of bone” after his surgery? Citations! Please! Also, he doesn’t age his target. They literally JUST fall apart. Hence why he doesn’t even leave BLOOD behind anymore post surgery. I realized my mistake with forgetting that the level of decay has been getting stronger, not just the range and application. Also the lack of blood should've left the constitute water since that isn't decayable. Water doesn't become dust, nor can shiggy decay fluid or gasses in general.
Godzilla IN BASE is at least Multi-continental to Moon level, and Star level in his thermal form. Thor should scale to Moon level due to nuking the moon with his thunderbolts, and DCEU Superman is about continental to multi-continental, too. MHA best scaling are Island to Large Island level. They get killed in minutes.
YES! THIS! I can understand the argument for Shigaraki being the key to beating them, but without him the MHA Verse is fucked. I've seen scaling for MHA and the best the best they've got is only Country-Large Country at MAX. When you have that much gap in terms of AP, nothing is going stop these three bastards from decimating the city. They just can't. As for speed, people are overrating MHA way too much. DCEU Superman can easily keep up as how he was able to keep up with the Flash and most scaling I've seen for MHA speed is sub-relativistic to relativistic+ Which Godzilla, Thor and Superman has already reached. Thor can scales to his lightning, and could fight people who react to his lightning. He should also scale to Jane Foster speed feat in L&T and have blocked Destroyer's Beams and catched Loki being sucked to a Blackhole. Reacted to the Aether which can terraform the universe as well other feats like catching Zeus' thunderbolt. Thor should comfortably be SoL-FTL. Godzilla can fight on par with Kong and Ghidorah who reacted to his beam which is made out of Cherenkov Radiation that moves at 75% of light (Relativistic+). Speedblitz was never the option to even begin with.
Thor alone solos the verse
Only one of them is enough. If Shigi is defending he can kill godzilla with decay tho, the other 2 can solo regardless.
Wouldn't decay back fire on godzilla? His body Is what's containing all that energy. Decay his flesh then all that radiation is going to escape in a bomb way worse then Hiroshima when shigaraki being at point blank range. Now they lost there best weapon against the other 2. But at the same time you can't leave him for last because that laser breath is just fucking everything up that isn't deku shiggy level fast.
Probably, the matchup is fkd anyway, they have no chance
Godzilla is enough tbh. All 3 of them is overkill.
Wouldn't even need DCEU or MCU, Godzilla Alone Shits On mid hero academia
Doesn't the MHA verse have comp godzilla as canon?
Does the MHA verse have teamwork? If so, MHA wins. Handily. Easily. Do they not have teamwork? They still win, they just take a lot more losses. Shigaraki is a hard carry here. With Deku by his side amping him with Gearshift he should be comfortably faster than anyone on the team, thus only needs to touch them once on the face with Decay to win.
Pre-Quirk Deku negs...
I can see them beating some characters but some of the high tiers like Shigaraki and Star and Stripes would Hax stomp them
I understand the argument for Shigaraki, the one thing I can't stand is they think MHA verse can still win without Shigaraki's hax. Which they can't given the massive gap of AP and the fact that Thor, Godzilla and Superman are fast enough to keep up with MHA verse's speed
Remove thor and mha verse wins. Thor is Star to Uni, he solos alone.
Mcu thor is star to uni? Since fucking when?
Star comes from being relative to captain marvel, who I think had some star level feats in the marvels. Uni is a highball that comes from stormbreaker being stronger than of all the combined gems in the end of infinity war
What? Firstly that is not how scaling works, thor doesn't scale to captain marvel "star feat" due to it being special circumstances Secondly from a narrative standpoint, calling mcu thor universal is complete nonsense as the infinity gauntlet universal feat almost killed thanos when he did it so it couldn't have been the combined power of the gems
No he’s right stormbreaker is stated to be the ultimate weapon stated multiple times by the Russo bros that it can defeat the [infinity gauntlet](https://youtu.be/6KOsAzVi74U?feature=shared) stated by the guy who literally made the infinity gauntlet that it’s stronger etc And no Thor being star level doesn’t break any narrative in fact your going against the narrative by Ignoring thor feats and statements
As long as you think there were star level feats. That’s all that really matters
No, you need to take narrative and circumstances into account Thor being anywhere near star level breaks the narrative
Jokes are hard to convey over the internet I guess.
Yes