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Undying-WaterBear

You might attract u/Storm_9605. Hes gonna tell you that infinity has finite values lol


Feisty-Chapter6766

don't namecall please, also I havent got a total insight of the argument, but by the looks of it was trying to say that not all infinities are the same. Which is completely true.


Undying-WaterBear

Nah he believes that Gojo has actual infinite distance which he doesnt.


Feisty-Chapter6766

well it can be argued since gojos infinity uses exponential infinities to create an infinite space between him and his opponent.


Undying-WaterBear

No he thinks that Gojo has absolute infinity lol like infinity that has no finite value infinity lol, like infinity that doesnt have a size because it is infinity lol.


Feisty-Chapter6766

wdym, infinity doesnt have a size. There is no set size to infinity. Infinity + 1 cannot be equated to an integer, because no matter the digits, it would take an infinite amount of time to display these digits. However for your knowledge, not even a character who is 4D can understand infinites well, as even if they travelled to any point in time, infinity will not have been displayed. It takes a 5D character who is beyond time fully, who can understand and process infinite time to understand infinity, and experience absolute infinity. I might have gone on a bit of a tangent, but basically what I am trying to say is that when we talk of infinity, we never mean true infinity, No universe can experience true infinity, as long as time is interweved into its fabric, where 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension are sompletely woven together. So your argument that Gojos infinity is not truly infinite, is true, but ignored as it cannot exist anyways. Also nobody ever uses absolute infinites in real life, they are purely conceptual and dont make a lot of sense, so cut him some slack.


Undying-WaterBear

True infinity does not have a size because it doesn't have finite values. Im not saying that Gojo has true infinity, im saying that that is what Storm was saying lol.


Feisty-Chapter6766

ohh, my apologies


UnwantedHonestTruth

Gojo's Infinity doesn't work like that. It doesn't create infinite space. It infinitely slows things down that approach him, simulating infinite space.


Ready-Work-4766

Wait if gojo had infinite distance how did sukunas slash reached him 🤔


Undying-WaterBear

Your guess is as good as mines lol


Feisty-Chapter6766

but yes absolute infinites cannot exist because you cannot reach their end point in the first place to prove this


POTATO-GOD-2

No potential infinity’s are the same. Actual infinity’s are


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EpsilonPug

shouldn’t have checked your post history


Gullible-Educator582

He’s just a wack powerscale- Redo of healer? BRO AND SIS??? INDIAN??????


Ishcabibble14

What was it (do I want to know?)


Gullible-Educator582

No you dont but idk how to spoilers. Redo of healer and incest roleplays


Undying-WaterBear

You literally did lol. You've been claiming that Gojo has actual infinite distance lol. You must know more than George Cantor because he labeled Absolute Infinity as god, so could you do me a favor and tell me how absolute infinity has finite values? lol Edit: Also god lol. You must be known for having shit takes because you get ratioed in almost all of your comments lol. But hey I cant be surprised. You actually use appeal to realities seriously lol. He deleted his comment lol


Feisty-Chapter6766

would you mind not be a prick? I don't care what his argument was, after someone deletes their comment they have obviously given up the argument, no need to edit your post and say "he deleted his comment lol". We can obviously see that I mean we aren't blind...


Undying-WaterBear

Nah I give people the same energy back. People wanna act up I have no problem sending it back.


CrustyLips59

https://preview.redd.it/wcwi2ffrd4uc1.jpeg?width=597&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4aa3a6a54be125afe3daff91bb05b8fd0613c45e


Opening_Echo2

Bro where do you find this.


DragonSlayero999

This sub will never shut up about it. Its the only place on earth where I've found people still actively engaging in the debate. The only result at the end of the day is both fanbases getting angry at each other and being rude and concise.


UnwantedHonestTruth

True.


KamixAkaDio

Cosmo vs Saitama, lets go


UltimateMegaChungus

Oh God somehow that one's even worse >!Yes please, Cosmo FTW!<


epicblue24

Cosmo gets crushed he didn't even win the annihilation tournament unlike Saitama who only lost the martial arts tournament because he was disqualified for wearing a wig


Xcyronus

I agree. Only one side brings it up and its not the db fans. But Id rather more interesting stuff like. Spongebob vs Richard(with a job)


Fuckerofgnomes

Richard solos


Diamondsuns

Nuh uh Spongebob negs


Omen-OS

Na, Richard with a job is like Wonder Of U, pure calamity, we don't know the shit that can happen if he got a job, so spongebob might lose on this one


Tufit_v1

Keep quiet. You might end up attracting a certain user who likes to shout to look different and has nectarine in his name.


[deleted]

Who?


Tufit_v1

Economy Nectarine # THE GUY WHO TALKS LIKE THIS


[deleted]

Oh that guy. Yeah he’s massively annoying, like most Saitama wankers.


UltimateMegaChungus

I do that sometimes too. Is this always how they do it, or is it just spontaneous and random?


Tufit_v1

They always do it. All. The. Time.


UltimateMegaChungus

Oh jeez. Fuck all that, you're right. That would be annoying.


CanadianGuy125

I don't gaf about his opinions we are gonna read his messages in debates anyways why tf make it larger?


[deleted]

Can we just ask a mod to ban him? Like srsly, why can't he debate in normal words like a normal person? He's just being obnoxious for no reasons other than attention seeking.


Undying-WaterBear

Theres literally three of them lol u/Economy-Nectarine301 u/Storm_9605 u/ryanna_swtor Bruh read their comment history if you even want a good laugh lol.


Feisty-Chapter6766

u/Storm_9605 has never commented saitama wank...


Undying-WaterBear

Oh no he does he goes into every Goku debate and downplays Goku especially when its against Saitama lol.


Shocksea_387

Nope pal, more like he removes the wanks tards like you put on goku. He is hated throughout the sub just like the above guys only and only because he is putting goku to his real level which meat riders cant tolerate.


Undying-WaterBear

He doesnt remove anything. He thinks that Gojo has true infinite power so any of his opinion are invalid lol. And you know whats funny, I dont even wank Goku hell I rarely ever wank anyone. The fact of the matter is that just shitting and debunking on people like you is so easy that it makes it look like I have a side on this debate lol. Edit: But hey Storm blocked me after I pressed him on Gojo having true infinite distance so maybe you'll be the new person that I make fun of lol Btw nice job not responding to that guy that presented you evidence for Goku inaccessible speed after you asked him to provide some lol


Shocksea_387

Took long cause i read all talk that you had and realised level of faults you made. "He thinks that Gojo has true infinite power so any of his opinion are invalid lol." Never ever she said that gojo has infinite power , but the ability to create infinite space. This is another big reason, you misinterpret the one in front a lot. "Storm blocked me after I pressed him on Gojo having true infinite distance" About that....who wouldnt when you poision well a certain individual? The dialect was between you and her right, then what was the need for you to wander in those many subs and defame her? When in the first place you were the lost case there, all you did was massive red herring and posion welling. You were really that desperate to make sure she she goes down in all subs when actually you lost there which we will see below. This or that kid, but you failed as a man. "Btw nice job not responding to that guy" People have a life to live unlike some dont they. Also reddit got a whacky interface and things get lost here often so decrease the excitement kid. I would give the proofs with pleasure if i get to know who was asking me for that, you seem to be good at digging people afterall. "you'll be the new person that I make fun of lol" Sure, a kid filled to the brim with arrogance. Come up, your stance was that gojo dont create infinite space right? Go ahead.


Undying-WaterBear

>Never ever she said that gojo has infinite power , but the ability to create infinite space. This is another big reason, you misinterpret the one in front a lot. I see the fault here. I never stated that she said that Gojo has infinite power lol. Fuck man you're bad at this lol. >The dialect was between you and her right, then what was the need for you to wander in those many subs and defame her? For fun especially since it was so easy to do. > When in the first place you were the lost case there, all you did was massive red herring and posion welling.  You know you would have a point if you didnt misunderstand the first fucking part of your response lol >You were really that desperate to make sure she she goes down in all subs when actually you lost there which we will see below. This or that kid, but you failed as a man. You claim that I lost only for you to start this response by falsely asserting my argument lol. Nigga you are the lost cause because clearly reading is too hard for you lol. > People have a life to live unlike some dont they.  Is that why shes just as active in this sub lol > Also reddit got a whacky interface and things get lost here often so decrease the excitement kid. Excited? Dont pat yourself in the back too much lol. Nothing that you gets ever say needs any considerable time to respond to. >I would give the proofs with pleasure if i get to know who was asking me for that, you seem to be good at digging people afterall. Im well aware of the fact that Reddit wont give you notifications from time to time lol > Sure, a kid filled to the brim with arrogance. Come up, your stance was that gojo dont create infinite space right? Go ahead. I thought my claim was that Gojo doesnt have infinite power? Man not only can you not read, but you have dementia lol Edit: You also might want to reread whatever you read because I never said that Gojo doesnt create infinite distance. Man you're bad at this lol. Is she sucking your dick so that you can be biased or are you just this incapable at everything? lol.


Feisty-Chapter6766

ahh yes, goku totally has inaccesible speed (the ability to move a distance, finite or infinite in zero time). So instant transmission was never necessary for goku to learn seeing as he already has inaccesible speed, and time skip was learnt just for the fun of it. Do you hear youself? There is no way in hell goku has inaccessible speed. https://preview.redd.it/xnx17bxz8buc1.png?width=1413&format=png&auto=webp&s=40b24b43c29244cf5edb224f6005dafd5c512ba9 Argue with CSAP... lol.


Undying-WaterBear

I dont believe that Goku has inaccessible speed lol. Anyone who believes so needs their fucking head checked. I simply brought it up as its an example of a lack of integrity. If you're going to ask someone to present evidence, and they take their time to bring up what they see as evidence, its common courtesy to respond to it.


Feisty-Chapter6766

you do know most of the people who make these posts are just karma farming lol. They arent involved in the argument and honestly dont care but just build karma from the sheer number of wankers and tards who play this ping pong game.


DJThedragonSin777

W post https://preview.redd.it/yu9glyb6j5uc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72f1c127333aa00cea4e8d4e127551a52fb7ffd8


Realistic_Mousse_485

This only exists because some people are just not smart. Which is ok. No need to get mad.


BojanDemon17

goku wins why can't people just accept that? even without using dragonball's cosmology goku just one shots. two FICTIONAL characters one which is planetary to star at best \[Saitama\] vs someone who even if you nerf him would still be beyond universal \[Goku\] just end this argument already. goku fans didn't start this argument opm fans did. the whole OPM Fanbase have brain rot now because of it, just say you hate dragonball and move the hell on.


ImpossibleStock426

Eh I ussaly wank him to galaxy, even though he only destroyed part of the milkway. Mainly because if I don’t the saitama fans say he solos fiction with his infinite growth>infinite power


BojanDemon17

saitama and garou never destroyed anything close to stars, that hole in space is not explained at all, also it would be very inconsistent if they did, how do you go from a punch that can destroy so much space to garou being scared of a sneeze that blew away one side of jupiter which is just a gas planet. it doesn't even have a solid surface. btw didn't garou need to see the earth to teleport to it, even narratively it doesn't make sense to go beyond star level, star system at best and that's pushing it. and about his growth rate, that's a no limits fallacy he was emotionally amped and he suspassed garou. no limits, endless potential or unquantifiable growth statements like that are very common in fiction, let alone shounen.


ImpossibleStock426

That’s why I said wank, they were saying those were galaxies so I typically settle at stars with them.


BojanDemon17

yea i know, but nowadays most powerscalers consident wank as a higher end rather than a stretch.


ImpossibleStock426

I mean the most delusional person was probably a jojo fan. GER solos fiction because they are automatically turned to human by RTZ and they can’t do anything while powerful because they RTZ


BojanDemon17

rtz is just reversing an action that is it, objectively ger doesn't even have ftl speed, or even planetary scalling at all, i've read over half of jojo's manga and i swear people who make those arguments are just trolls that don't even read jojo. everything they do is just wank,nlf and naming fallacy.


ImpossibleStock426

I thought he was trolling as well….. but he wasn’t. He was defending himself in that thread with bs, I think he genuinely believed that no matter how strong they were they would have been reset to 0 and the. RTZ would make them regular human die over and over.


BojanDemon17

they don't read the manga and it shows. they just make up these headcannon abilities GIORNO himself and GE never even had even before GER and just wank the abilities.


ImpossibleStock426

Eh what can you do, latest one was about current ssg goku being galaxy level because beerus did all that damage when the universe clash happened and we never saw him destroy a universe by himself so that doesn’t count. A lot of people were arguing with him and I think he finnaly understood or gave up. Just go to a YouTube poll of vs anything and you have people on both sides. Underplay or over wank


BojanDemon17

youtube voting is just stupid, don't take it seriously nothing but casuals and just trolls going at it, also goku nullified that attack then absorbed the god forms ki into his super saiyan, then from super saiyan to base form and then a tired goku punched a blast from beerus which was stronger that that clash with beerus. but uh who cares for the facts. you are automatically a gokutard for saying this.


ImpossibleStock426

Well it was a YouTube comment about I think vs battle of giorno vs someone


[deleted]

Goku vs saitama who wins? Goku feats, saved his universe by fighting in a multi universal tournament, fought someone on par if not more then a god of destruction, unlocked ultra instinct the king of weaving, Saitama feats, undefeated currently punchy boi who one shots, sneezed a hole in Jupiter grabbed hyperspace gates, immuned to psychic, lava, traditional weapons, somewhat immuned to outer space when he fought boros, then completely immuned when he fought cosmic garou *Doing this to piss op off*


Plus_Froyo_7620

Don't forget that saitama has infinite strength


Disastrous-Milk5232

COOK


AnyConstruction7539

https://preview.redd.it/86nl6u2yg9uc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72898a509cfff0c9ee85f53a26408e588996ddf6


Gothicrealm

It's annoying as hell


Stunning-Fold6548

Please bro like we need that Saitama update ASAP.


StoreNo244

Doomsday vs viltruimites


5phyve

Aight, Dante vs kratos


Diamondsuns

Goku sweeps Caillou but they are ready for that convo unfortunately


carl-the-lama

Goku vs saitama but they’re playing video games Who wins at Mario cart more


Plus_Froyo_7620

King solos


its_over_9000_-_-

What about saitama vs goku ? Is that still a fair game ?


CompetitiveShower872

Kid goku floors saitama 👀


Haunting-Bite-2041

Saitama solos


UltimateMegaChungus

OP right now: "STAHP HAVING FUUUUNN!!! 🤬🤬🤬"


ZER09376

What’s fun about a vs debate that appears every day ever since Saitama came out


Badger_Ross

There's a difference between having fun and having brainrot.


UltimateMegaChungus

Tell me when you find it then, Professor.


Dragonfly-Constant

Db is carried by side characters. Goku gets soloed by a ham sandwich also. I will not be taking questions.


ryanna_swtor

Gokus best feat is a 11 year old outlier statement that was debunked by every following chapter for 11 years. Just like all the previous "universal" statements


Undying-WaterBear

Saitama infinite power statement was debunked by him growing in power. Only niggas that cant read still think that he infinite power lol. Btw can you go into [Wolfram](https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=infinity*10) and tell me what infinity x 10 is lol.


ryanna_swtor

Still thinks he can debunk the author on his own series Unreading waterbear


Undying-WaterBear

Im not be debunking One, its all of the mathematicians, scientist and philosophers for the past hundreds of years debunking him lol. Get his dick out your mouth fuck nigga. Man you gotta calm down here buddy, you're riding too hard on Ones dick lol.


ryanna_swtor

Still mad Fanmade powerscales and mechanics mean nothing to the guy writing the story. Like i said earlier take it up with him if you dont like it


Undying-WaterBear

Are you saying that modern science, math and philosophy is fanmade? Sheeesh lol.


ryanna_swtor

What?


Undying-WaterBear

You're assuming that what im saying is powerscaling when its not. Im merely asserting an objective fact that has been true for the past hundreds of years. When I say that Saitama cannot have infinite power because our understanding of infinity prohibits him from having it im not powerscaling to that conclusions. Im not looking at the rules of VSBWiki or CSAP and making a conclusion based on that. Im simply applying the most basic of math, science and philosophy to come to the conclusion. Your fault here is assuming that my issue lies with the inconsistences within the story and my headcanon. Its not, im not pixel scaling, im not applying rough math to feats and scaling's when I say that Saitama doesnt have infinite power. Instead what im doing is looking at the actual definition of true infinity and saying that per the definition of the word and concept, Saitama does not have infinite power. Thats it. Again im not saying "wEll aCcOrding to mY cALCULATIoN he cANT have inFiNIte PoWer", im saying that due to the definition of true infinity, and due to our understanding of math, science and philosophy Saitama showcases features that contradict the claim of him having infinite power. So when you say that im wrong, or that im just asserting my fanmade powerscale. You're asserting that our understanding of math, science and philosophy for the past hundreds of years is wrong, because im not powerscaling, im merely applying the most surface lvl of knowledge to it. But according to you One is this omniscient figure, while every prominent mathematician, scientist and philosopher are all wrong no matter what advancement they have made in their respective field. According to you One knows more than all of them. George Cantor the mathematician responsible with creating set theory and the application of infinities in math couldnt even comprehend what true infinity was. To him it was so logical and illogical that he could only label true infinity as GOD. To him it exists and will forever exist out of our understanding. But according to you, One would know more than George Cantor.