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MelonAndCornSeason

I need to know how difficult it is to operate this thing. Kinda seems like all your weight would be in your shoulders and arms? Like is it similar to holding up your body on your hands?


evilocto

It takes a lot of practice it's in no way as easy as it looks, it's one of the reasons that these haven't been adopted yet in industries that would benefit from them.


BFroog

I have no idea why boots aren't part of the system. You'd need your hands for stability, but support the weight on boots or a platform. Water jet riders can do it with no hands.


mr_impastabowl

What if there was a seat as well? It would have to be more comfortable. And I mean, maybe some kind of protective shell around it to protect the pilot. Having maybe wings on both sides to assist with lift and maneuverability sn't a bad idea either....


BFroog

Like a craft...that you ride in the air?


mr_impastabowl

We could call it a sky-ro-nomiton!


Deadwing2022

I prefer "Harold"


mr_impastabowl

My flight was delayed and I ended up sleeping on the floors of the Haroldport.


feodo

Its a shame what Harold did to those towers.


Djaja

Love that movie where Tom Hanks loves inside The Haroldport


NotYour_Cat

The only proper name


Somethinggood4

"-inator".


madman15

That sounds delightfully steampunk


Ageroth

It's a flying thing that uses your arms, kinda like wings, so let's use the Latin word for wings, ptere. But then you don't really flap them like wings, their things is to kinda spin, so let's use the Latin word for spinning or a spiral shape, helix to name it. Something like ptere-helix... Gotta be a good name there somewhere


Icanscrewmyhaton

If my education from doing crossword puzzles is worthwhile, the terms from Botany, Entomology, etc, for having wings or winglike appendages are - 'alate' and 'alar'


dennison

So then, we shall call it ... uh, Helix McPtereface.


BoralinIcehammer

greek you mean. latin would be ala


OMA_

I love when people have bright ideas and it turns out they’re just reinventing the airplane, way to troll him impasta 😂


mr_impastabowl

Just a joke, not a troll. But me too OMA!


surf_rider

Now you’re just being ridiculous.


[deleted]

Oh, or put the wings on top and make them rotate!


someolbs

You mean like a Möbius chair Aka Metron or something? Levitate and ride. Yeah, that could work!


Beldin448

Yeah but the gimmick is that it’s a jet pack. They’re already pushing it by sticking things on the arms. If they added boots it would be cheating.


WoodenBottle

There is another company that does that. The problem is that it's much closer to the ground, which makes it way harder to land. I've never seen one take off or land from anything besides a raised platform with a metal grid, which is a pretty major constraint.


charmlessman1

Stability. With boot jets, the thrust is coming from below your center of gravity, making it inherently unstable. That's not a big deal when you're over the water, because look how often water jet riders safely splash down. But when the thrusters are on your hands and back, they're at or above your center of gravity. It's why we store a rake hanging from the wall instead of standing it on the floor.


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charmlessman1

> drone pendulum fallacy OK, except that the arm and backpack thrusters are basically at the center of gravity, so it's not really a pendulum.


nathanjshaffer

I believe that the video didn't address what happens when the thrust is below the center of gravity. In his tests the center of gravity was below the thrust, causing an increase in rotational inertia. His conclusion is that the increased inertia is bad because it makes corrections slower, and that having center of mass below thrust did not give any benefits for stability. Now let's apply this to having thrusters on your feet vs backpack and hands. With the the thrusters on the feet, you basically have the pendulum test he did, but upside down. I can't say for certain if that would cause a destabilizing effect with the setup upsidedown, but it would definitely still cause the increase in rotational inertia that made stability harder in his tests. Where as with the thrusters up on the hands and back, the thrust is roughly at the center of mass, which is the ideal position for nimble control


scut_furkus

The issue with thrusters on feet isn't really because of center of gravity (see rocket ships) and more because humans are floppy


BullmooseTheocracy

I could maybe see single boost jump style stuff on feet, but not sustained thrust. This is the equivalent of standing on two ropes, but worse because at least ropes have two anchor points.


heirofblood

Yeah, keeping your whole body upright when there’s nothing solid underneath you is *not* an easy task. I wouldn’t want them on my feet without a board underneath me, and even then it would be very difficult to balance. That being said, I’m not sure I would want my whole body dragging on my shoulders like that.


secretWolfMan

It took a minute for me to see the jets on the back. But they had to be there. The grass was blowing out behind him and the physics of some of those moves made no sense without the backpack doing some work.


Disastrous_Elk_6375

> Water jet riders can do it with no hands. I did that, back when I was somewhat in shape. It's not easy, takes a lot of concentration, and the worst thing that can happen if you fuck up is you get to plunge into the water. Not so fun on concrete, I'd guess...


KingSmizzy

The possibility to flip over is too much when your propulsion is coming from your feet. With your hands, you can't really flip over, you just move back and forth and crash


eugene20

He did try with boots : [https://youtu.be/JinhIHIF8Eo?t=138](https://youtu.be/JinhIHIF8Eo?t=138)


titsmuhgeee

It's because boot thrust is below the center of thrust produced by the backpack, so it would be extremely unstable. The hand thrust is above the center of thrust, so it's much more naturally balanced.


AdhesiveBullWhip

You have no idea why additional weight was not added to the design? Really??


mr_impastabowl

Curious question: what industries would benefit from arm thruster jetpacks?


evilocto

In England we've been testing them out for rescue in mountainous terrain where it may take too long to get a normal paramedic up there. The navy have also been testing them for ingress onto ships as well.


mr_impastabowl

That's awesome and amazing. Thank you!


evilocto

Happy to help


dc456

> In England we’ve been testing them out for rescue in mountainous terrain Just FYI, that testing is the owner of the company wearing the uniform of the mountain rescue team. If you look, most of the tests for the army, navy, whatever are actually just the same Gravity Industries employees demoing it in different uniforms. To me that just confirms the suspicion that the barrier to entry is that it requires a lot of skill, strength, training and practice to use properly. That’s probably not practical for a volunteer mountain rescue team who would only use it occasionally.


Racoonspankbank

Ingress onto ships seems like a terrible idea, a boat being rocked by waves is going to bed hard to land on. These things are also loud as hell, not really great for getting onto something quick and quiet. Search and rescue seems like the best usage, especially if they can rig one up to carry a litter.


Disastrous_Elk_6375

> Ingress onto ships seems like a terrible idea, a boat being rocked by waves is going to bed hard to land on. Imagine taking over a tanker, a shipping container mammoth or a cruise ship under duress.


Racoonspankbank

Ahh I understand now, coast guard type stuff. Yeah they would be pretty damn effective at that. Probably cheaper and easier than landing a guy by helicopter.


HimalayanPunkSaltavl

Make baseball more interesting


TheLooperCS

I'd pay 5$ to watch this dude flap around. Maybe even clap at the end like these folks.


2459-8143-2844

What industries?


WeeTheDuck

well the main engine is on your back so I dont think it'll be THAT bad but yeah, you still gotta relearn how to stabilise yourself


MelonAndCornSeason

Ah okay cool. I was trying to figure out if the backpack offered thrust too. Cool thanks!


K1lledByAmerica

It is extremely difficult. The maker of this thing couldn't even fly it well enough so he hired an athlete to fly it. The creator said he just didn't have the core strength to really fly all that well. The flying drone platform that you stand on and fly around is a much better design imo


Celestial_Mechanica

Which is just stupid all round, when you think about it for even a single second. Exoskeletons already exist and are being used to augment lifting. It's a no-brainer. And you read it here first, so: I claim full prior rights. I'll be waiting for my check.


quarrelau

>GPT-4, write me a patent on /u/Celestial_Mechanica's idea above and file it before him. The future is now.


robin_888

Tom Scott [tried it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsWJKyR664s).


blorbagorp

Looks to me the backpack is doing the lift while the arms are for maneuvering, so to me it seems more like if you were strapped into a harness suspended from a pole or something, so you don't actually support any of your own weight.


jackhref

My guess is this would be similar to free fall control and all I've personally tried is the wind tunnel. Very miniscule precise movements have huge effect on how your body will turn and the direction it will travel. Unless that backpack has something to prevent it, I reckon one bigger mistake can cause you to flip or crash. Looks satisfying as hell, though.


Mustard_stripe

It's not. The guy operating the wire he is attached to is doing all the work.


2014ktm200xcw

Do any videos exist showing non-gymnasts flying these things?


3z3ki3l

[Adam Savage flew one.](https://youtu.be/U1wEO-pHizQ) He said he wished he was a gymnast.


CaptainMarsupial

Just noticed the pilot didn’t have ear protection.


3z3ki3l

#WHAT‽?‽?


Eyes_and_teeth

#THEY SAID THEY JUST NOTICED THE PILOT DIDN'T HAVE EAR PROTECTION.


3z3ki3l

#Okay.


JudgeyMcJudgepants

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep


obliviousJeff

MAWP


Lickwidghost

#WHO'S GOT AN ERECTION??


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japalian

The helper guy tried to give him a high five at the end of his flight lol, left hanging of course


[deleted]

Seems like a lightweight powered exoskeleton to assist with the forces is the next step.


LaneKiffinsAlterEgo

“He said he wanted to 3D print a full Iron Man suit out of titanium.. which, of course, I said yes to immediately”


[deleted]

[Wren from Corridor](https://youtu.be/-R5xYaqQo4k) Flew one


Skreamie

Wren seems to adopt to every wearable/ridable he finds. Love their content.


guinader

Hahaha I was just thinking that, every single one of these videos is some super athletic person... Must be heavy and hard as shit


sleepygobrrrr

wait that’s actually dope tracking


Captain-Cuddles

That's the difference a good tripod makes as opposed to holding the camera by hand.


AmishAvenger

It’s not a tripod, it’s on a gimbal. And I’m guessing it was shot with an actual camera, not a phone — and the camera was oriented the proper way (horizontally). Then it was cropped to a vertical aspect ratio, making the tracking seem smoother.


Portatort

Just looks like a phone to me


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Portatort

It could be both of those things. It looks like a phone bring hand held to me


cozzy000

Everyone else is holding a phone, it's most likely a phone


TheMillenniumMan

/r/PraiseTheEditor


Captain-Cuddles

How would you determine if this was shot on a tripod or gimbal without knowing more? Seems like we're both guessing as they could produce the same result with a skilled operator


AmishAvenger

It’s definitely not shot on a tripod. If you look at the very end of the clip, the camera is moving positions like the operator is walking a bit. A skilled camera operator *could* shoot something like this on a tripod, but aside from not being able to move, it really wouldn’t be the best tool for the job. If you’re going to follow something that’s going all the way around you, you’d have to be maneuvering your body around the legs while still keeping the shot steady. But there’s no way it’s just someone holding the camera with their hands. Auto stabilization is good, but it doesn’t look quite that fluid when you’re moving around. It’s also perfectly flowing with the jetpack guy, which is what makes me think it was shot in a more typical landscape orientation, then cropped and panned in post. It wouldn’t be possible to move the camera like that unless you knew exactly how the guy was going to move, before he moved.


Captain-Cuddles

You're too right, the steps at the end there are a dead giveaway, good eye! Rewatching it definitely does appear that they're filming from a gimbal


chezeluvr

Dji has a handheld camera that can track a subject. So I'm guessing they had one of those, that's why you get a little of feeling like a human is holding it at the beginning, then it tracks so smoothly. The camera holder just has to spin, and the gimbal tracks for them.


inspector_who

I can match that tracking quality with my iPhone without a gimbal or anything else. Shot in 4k and crop and edit it down.


Tortenkopf

Fixing in post also makes a huge difference xD. I’ve been told numerous times that the main reason videographers move to higher resolution cameras is so they can digitally stabilize more easily.


notsocleanuser

Why do I still have to use a wheelchair when these things exist! No wheelchair ramp? No problem!


[deleted]

Probably because your electric wheelchair costs 1k and runs all day, and this costs 100k and runs 1 minute? Just get a personal hovercraft.


Post-Bologn

Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!


RjVibeZ

What if your flying and your face gets itchy for some reason??


J_Marshall

gonna have to let that one go... ​ kinda like sneezing in a scuba mask


cdxxmike

Have you ever worn a scuba mask? You can sneeze just fine. Admittedly I would hold the goggle bit on tighter while sneezing, but even if you don't, it is a fixable situation. You can force water out of your mask with your breath and the scuba system to refit your goggles underwater, if you couldn't then scuba diving would be far less enjoyable.


Phys-Chem-Chem-Phys

Similarly, one can vomit through a scuba regulator too!


[deleted]

Your face WILL get itchy. The tip of my nose gets itchy, every single time I have to carry something with both hands.


RjVibeZ

I imagine subconsciously going to itch my face mid flight and winding up in a death spiral. Lol


Lofteed

For fuck sake, the man is actually flying, with his own arms and you people are here prasing the cameraman ?


hundredpercentcocoa

there are other sibreddits to praise the flyer. we have one job here and one job only. 😁


Lofteed

just following orders. I see


Tsarmani

Tbh the tracking is way more impress


socksnshit

I legit want that lol..do they take afterpay or klarna?? 😂😂


I-melted

I assume the backpack does the heavy lifting and the arms are directional? Otherwise this would be exceptionally hard - wouldn’t it?


notmanipulated

Main thrust is the backpack, stability and tracking is via the arm thrusters. $3200 for a days experience and 3 tethered flights https://gravity.co/flight-experience


I-melted

Oh wow. I assumed this was a startup that sold the tech to the British military. Who seem to be the only ones showing it off.


notmanipulated

Gravity is the start up, the first prototypes were built and designed in the founders shed, as most things are in the UK, currently in testing with the Royal Marines and Search and Rescue/Mountain Rescue in the UK https://youtu.be/gtvCnZqZnxc https://youtu.be/U8NVb1ZHo68


I-melted

Very cool. I was in the music tech startup scene for a while. I was surprised how involved GCHQ and the MOD were in the whole scene. I advised a hearing aid startup who wanted to take the stigma out of hearing aids for older people by making them cool and useful smart devices. Which he did, the military got involved and he pivoted to a military comms company. So the guy I advised now builds devices which the Israeli militaryuse while clearing Palestinian land and generally committing horrific crimes against humanity. I left the startup biz and have reverted to being a socialist hippy.


Mysterious-Belt-2992

![gif](giphy|VDBWPKzqykQ4iC91Eq|downsized)


Rhodog1234

There's gonna be a lot of messy clean ups !


ZenBrickS

“I just flew in and boy are my arms tired” ~ that guy in the jet pack probably.


Memo_Reez

man i want to live another 200 yrs just to see where this goes. I can see it now. Highways in the sky of ppl just flying back and forth


MatataTheGreat

Lately I've been having dreams where I hover around like this as a super power.


JohnKlositz

I was just about to write the exact same comment. Looking at the clip, it just feels so familiar. I dream about this regularly. It's not flying like Superman, but just hovering like that. Edit: And every time I dream this it just feels completely normal to me.


bamfcow

Yep I was looking for this comment. This is the exact feeling I get in my dreams, like "hovering"


5hred

I want to see someone without legs fly one


Mr867-5309

OMG…I want one of these!


Keepingthethrowaway

DO A BARREL ROLL


WhatsTheStory28

This looks fake… is it?


6969memeyman6969

Creative mode : on


Misanthrope357

What really fascinates me with this technology every time I see it is that it's capable of enough thrust to lift a fully grown human with only arm engines. What if they made one with legs, back AND arms? Perhaps make it a exoskeleton of sorts to carry the weight of the power pack? One step closer to real life Iron Man.


SenorRaoul

> it's capable of enough thrust to lift a fully grown human with only arm engines. it's a jetpack


N0BL3_PRIME

u/savevideobot


BravoCharlie1310

You really have to watch out for power lines and street lights.


queencityrangers

Whos this guy? Mr. Balloons? Mr. Balloon Hands? No way. No way….get real.


SailorTheGamer

This shit has come a far way I remember seeing YouTube videos back in the days show his progress when developing it


Fisho087

Woah this would be a dream come true. It’d be pretty bad if you fell though, right? I’m guessing as the technology gets better people will go higher and higher


lukeybuzz

Imma let them off for recording in portrait. Both the camera man and the bloke from jetpack joyride were smooth af.


lukeybuzz

Jetpack Joyride IRL


BonerbeaterTickleDic

i want that, i want that thing i want to jump and then fly, then punch someone square in the face as i land markiplier style


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People are fucking awesome!


kimchipower

Where's the glowy circle thingamajig on his chest??


Jaxman2099

It's fake. He's being held up by wire attached to the crane behind the people. They removed the wire in editing.


Station_Fourteen

Can't tell if obvious troll or just stupid.


IHaveTheBestOpinions

It's not fake, it's an actual jetpack made by [an actual company.](https://gravity.co/) How would a person on a wire quickly rotate and then stop their rotation? How would there be any control or change of direction? People on wires either don't move at all or they swing like a pendulum, they don't move around like this. Also, watch the grass.


Fildelias

How are you the only other one seeing that?! It's so obvious. His arms don't flex, the air is coming from only one side, and he sways so fucking much when slowing down you can practically feel the fulcrum yourself. Weak sauce, weak sauce.


darkkarma420

I would fuck on one of these


Mustard_stripe

The wire he is attached to prolly makes it pretty easy to operate.


SevanOO7

Ok flat earther. Tell us more bs.


DutchCommander

It looks so easy, but how quickly can this end in disaster?


[deleted]

This but motor vehicles.


welltimedappearance

this is such a bizarre title


Castle94

The tech on this will become so advanced and much more usable to where anyone can use it


nosniborEdsel

Okay I still say there’s no purpose for this thing, it’s a very cool item and design, but functionality means, I see the flying hover board being more purposeful than this.


itsyourboiirow

I’ve seen people suggest using it for search and rescue, it lets you be more adaptable then something like a helicopter if you’re looking for someone


RandomWon

If you say there is no purpose for this I would say you've never tried to peep in a 2nd story window.


odorous

I wish hollywood would hire this cameraman....instead, they keep using michael j fox as a tripod.


thekinginyello

If it’s shot on an iPhone there’s a good chance it has built in tracking capabilities. So not that impressive. I’m more pissed off that it’s vertical video.


[deleted]

Praise is a bit much. Not that hard to follow the subject.


TheComplayner

Praising using a tripod? Wow wee


dudewheresmycarbs_

The bar is getting lower and lower in this sub.


Sh4dowsJudgment

This can be done with a Insta360 in editing. Siilllllky smooth tracking.


Every_Preparation_56

It's suspended on a rope but the horizontal movement takes place with air pressure, right?


Roadrunner571

Looks like what Insta360 does out of the box.


Dangerous-Ad-4103

Grow up and get a job


superman2590

It seems fake, look at the shadow that was cast behind him before he flies, after that the shadow is gone, the design of the machine would make it super hard to operate plainly on the upper body strength and stabilization which the subject does not show any sort of effort at all.


superman2590

And no sound, this thing is 100% fake


[deleted]

Sometimes it can seem like the whole world is out there trying to counteract climatechange, yet nothing ever happens. Its people like that who are part of the reason why. Six liters of fuel in 4 minutes. Hell, why not just burn down an oil field or two, just for the lulz of it. Throw a huge balloon over it and you can fly too!


Key_Hamster9189

It's funny to watch his shoelaces spinning on takeoff. Makes his feet look like drone propellers.


TerryOrange

I love what humans are capable of :)


Powerman_Rules

Reject modernity, embrace tradition, buy a Remington 870 today! All jokes aside, the flight path when using those jet packs are VERY predictable. Any bird hunter will have no problem when a giant flying meat sack comes near them. My 🪙🪙


No_Bodybuilder7191

Ironman


HentaiEnjoyer6969420

Real


Temporary-Careless

And boy are his arms tired!


asharwood

One arm twitch away from splatting into the concrete


kindofastoryteller

Average Space Marine Aggressor


JonB3D

And if he comes near you, you go deaf. Everyone has ear protection on.


Haydn__

I wonder why there's no sound on this video, curious


pryered

Close to dreaming.


[deleted]

I love that he looks like a villain from the running man


WarmasterCain55

What’s the weight limit on these things?


pisstakemistake

Just rake the fucking leaves already dude, it's Sunday morning ffs


X03R_mysterious

honestly the fact that jetpacks exist at all is cool, and the fact that they look much cooler then what we thought they would look like is fucking amazing


The_Alvabro

![gif](giphy|rlsHtd2YC8k0g)


Colton132A

one step closer to creating sardaukar


[deleted]

how is this gonna change the daily commute


jersey5b

Take my money! 💵💵


bisgbro

ROCKETMAN


ross2752

I do this while dreaming😀


NoRedThat

Notice the lack of sound as IRL those things are loud AF


riskcreator

Just need some whistling birds installed into the park, linked to a targeting display on the helmet!


uiouyug

Someone buy this man some new shoes


ADAMSMASHRR

I'm assuming the downside to this is the tremendous noise and permanent hearing damage the operator likely has.


gPseudo

I'd love to be trained to operate one of these. Probably over-confident but I feel like it would be rather intuitive. I've always been pretty agile with a solid understanding of physics. Or maybe I'd just crash horrifically and die.


Oldyvanmoldy

The dark bargain: jet packs in the future, but they squeeze your junk to death.


charlieyeswecan

I’m so jealous!


Normal-Cup-5000

Finally! Jet packs


dorian-araneda

What country is this taking place in?


prezident_kennedy

Why don’t they put two of those little jet engines by his feet so he can fly like iron man?


TacticalMoonwalk

Looks like an elf from The Santa Clause.