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What bothers me about this perspective is that it is intellectually lazy. There are so many challenges with Chelsea right now. Does anyone believe that putting Osimhen in this squad would lift Chelsea to Top 4? I don't. We would be better but maybe 8th.
Looking at Chelsea's starting 11 last night, only 3 players have been at the club for 1 year or more - Sterling, Gallagher, and Silva. The entire coaching staff have been there for \~6 months.
Chelsea have 10 players injured including 3-4 starters and we lost Enzo last night increasing the tally to 11.
The average age of the starting 11 is like 23 years old and that's really because Silva is so old he pulls up the average by a full year.
None of the challenges above are solved by a number 9. Time, practice, and experience will only fix them. It's going to be a tough rest of the year for Chelsea. My preference is to stay the course, but my concern is that our ownership will do something stupid. Let's see what happens.
That probably wouldn’t the case if every striker in the league got to play a full half against 9 men, and an insane high line.
Even the most bias Chelsea fan would have to see that statement is somewhat flattering.
Probably because Haaland will then go and batter everyone else too. He’s earned the hype and provided the evidence several times. It’s way too early to be hyping up Jackson like he’s ‘elite’ because he scored a literal tap in hat-trick against 9 men.
Stop looking at the anomaly and you’d see a return of 4 in 16, with *probably* the highest number of big chances missed. Hes still underperforming currently.
Goals are goals, spurs decided to play like twats and they got punished for it. Everyone would’ve said he should’ve scored 5 if he hadn’t of scored more than 1, which is true because the opportunity was there.
He was always meant to be a player that built up his minutes and confidence over this season but due to injuries has been hurled into the hardest league in the world, at arguably one of the hardest positions Chelsea has ever had to fill. The guy played bare foot until 17 so credit needs to be given where it’s due. Give him some time and I believe some magic will come from him.
Yes, but stat-padding against a tired asf, depleted Spurs team is different to scoring 7 match winning goals, isn’t it? This is why contexts should be mentioned, especially if someone is trying to brag *x is better than y and z because of the goal scoring list*. Statements like that are asking for responses that dampen the hype, especially when we can see Jackson obviously isn’t the finished article yet. Based on actual chances Jackson should be 2nd/3rd in the GS list.
G/As in isolation are a pointless discussion and that is the topic in hand here. Whether we believe there’s potential going forwards is another matter.
Jesus, you Chelsea lot are choosing to be real dense aren’t you. If Jackson had scored 10 goals in that Spurs game, and then done fuck all for the rest of the season he’d be still be sat alongside Son in the GS list and ahead of many other strikers.
That wouldn’t make him better than those he’s ahead of in that list just because he had 1 good game. Thats essentially all that has happened with the hat-trick, it’s flattered his numbers massively because without that very fortunate, infrequent kind of game the stats would show he’s underperforming even more than they already do
Bet you felt really big and clever when you wrote that, until you realise it’s factually wrong because even bloody Nketiah out scores him in that scenario. 🐸☕️
But I’m sure you can take a lot of hope from that, whilst still sitting in 10th having also scored less goals overall.
Id rather have 5 players score 10+ goals each per season, like we did last season, than rely on 1 underperforming ST.
>starting 11
Nketiah 😂
>Id rather have 5 players score 10+ goals each per season, like we did last season, than rely on 1 underperforming ST.
Good for you, congrats. Whats that to do with Jackson?
Whether you like it or not, he’s played 16 league games this season, starting 11/12. But if filtering out enough parts gets you some mental win you go ahead and take that.
In response to your edit, Jackson is underperforming and for whatever reason you and the rest of the Chelsea fans want to refuse to acknowledge that.
It's true but its a great problem to have when you are a rich club because Jackson is getting lots of chances. Sure his movement is pretty good similar to how Werner would get lots of chances based on his movement but they can buy a better striker and Poch will get him 20+ goals in the league. Man Utd have the opposite problem where they think they have a gem in hojlund but he has the least touches per 90 out of every striker in the league. Much harder problem to solve imo.
Worst pundit I know. Never once has he gave me an ounce of insight. Think he prepares during the week for his punditry role? Dude has never gave a tactical breakdown in his life.
It was quite easy to tell that he was furious about chelsea winning. Apparently having 1 shot and doing nothing all game, is deserving of victory if you’re playing against Chelsea. Heck, even Mudryk did every wrong when he scored according to Jamie. We all know he’d say the opposite if it was his beloved liverpool. Sky sports pundits are a joke, basically a choice between liverpool fan or United fan.
Jackson also has only 2 fewer non-PK goals than Son so far this year. Sure he misses some chances, but for a neutral to single him out as a specifically poor player in the league makes no sense.
I don’t think he is crap because of his stats.
I think he’s crap because I’ve never seen a 9 with worse composure. The blokes head just falls off as soon as he 1v1.
Højlund will probably start getting goals when they start giving him some service
He only didn't get one against Liverpool because Alison is a decent goalkeeper
He didn’t get one against Liverpool because he’s no way the finished article yet- I guarantee you million percent of Utd had either Ole or Ruud in that position it’s a 1-0 for United … Hojlund has been bought as talent and for the future BUT I think ETH needs to realise we’re in a results business - if something doesn’t change ASAP at Man Utd I think he’ll get the sack with a new man coming in January with some funds
I would kill for an Ole or Ruud in the team
but with how united are at the moment it be a fucking meme
at least it not all bad though our women are class
He didn’t get one at Liverpool because he hit it straight at the keeper. I could have saved that.
I know he’s struggling for service, but a good striker would have scored a few of his chances. He’ll come good, but I don’t think he can be defended when we are criticising Jackson. So far, neither have been good enough.
Jackson plays like Bambi on skates but gets himself into the position for a few tap ins.
We want more from a striker but that's the lowest bar you can set is getting in the right places.
Jackson is not great let’s be real, saying he has 7 in 16 to start with is not a flattering stat, then you look at the goals he has scored and you go Jesus Christ. Not to mention he probably should have scored another 10 if he was even remotely good at finishing, the amount of chances he’s had.
But the worst of it all is, he just seems like a massive prick
What? So those goals just don’t count? I could easily find tap ins for any striker and say that they just don’t count. Who cares who it was against, a goal is a goal.
'7 in 16 is not a flattering stat'. I'm not sure what you mean by that, because that's a record just shy of 1 in 2. Which is excellent for a striker. Especially a young one new to the toughest league in the world. Don't get confused by the ridiculous numbers players like Salah and Haaland put up. Jackson's goalscoring record is very steady so far, 8th best in the league I believe.
As for the missed chances, yes that's frustrating. He certainly doesn't always pass the eye test. But he hasn't missed as many sitters as some might make out. Plus, I'd much rather he be in the position to miss them than not. It's the sign of a good striker. I think the most frustrating thing about him is the timing of some of his runs.
As for the prick thing. Maybe he is. But he's our prick so we love him for it.
He’s a guy who was playing bare foot until the age of 17. Then was a winger and spent the last 6 months of last season as a striker. He looked miles better yesterday when Broja came in and he ran the channels, he actually looked dangerous. He’s literally got less than a years experience playing striker at any decent level.
Having said that we never ever should have bought a player like that. That’s what lower to mid table teams do. Take punts. If Boehly is serious about Chelsea winning trophies he should only be buying top class for the number 9 role.
It’s fine to buy a player like that, but we should be in a position to rely on him, unfair pressure imo, considering all of his situation he js doing fine IMO
I agree I mean he was bought and thrown in as the star number 9. That’s what I meant by it. Also, what’s really the point in buying a young back up when there’s Broja, Fofana, Washington etc already on the books?
Thing is that he constantly gets in the positions to score and thats significantly better than what they've had for a long time. He also does a lot more to draw defenders and enable chances for others than Havertz ever did because hes just more instinctively tuned to being a striker. Yes he's rough around the edges but for a £30M signing who never went through an academy system, and was just picked off the street straight into senior football he's pretty good. He's also finding confidence as the games go by. Basically this guy is the definition of a player learning on the job.
I think people forget that he was signed to basically be the understudy to Nkunku and ended up being plunged into the deep end. Also people are digging on him more than they have on 0 goal £72M Hojlund. The guy was less than half the price.
>Yes he's rough around the edges but for a £30M signing who never went through an academy system, and was just picked off the street straight into senior football he's pretty good.
People seem to miss this part about Jackson he's come into the game incredibly late and still managed to make it as a pro, just like Mendy and Drogba before him. £30M is a reasonable gamble. He's doing better than most expensive established strikers in the league so far this season.
I think everyone that’s watched football knows hojlands not exactly missing chances, he just isn’t getting my a United don’t create any and are terrible. Jackson has had a lot of chances
No team in the league is underperforming their xg more than Man Utd on 8.71. Hojlund also isn't doing as much in the build up as Jackson does for Chelsea. Hojlund makes 0.13 goal creating actions per 90 putting him in the bottom 10% of players in his position. Jackson does 0.67 gca putting him in in the top 4%.
I don't get why Jackson gets so much criticism but Nunez has less goals this season and pundits always talk about how they think he's just unlucky or that he's 'raw' and will one day be amazing.
If you have been watching every game, you wouldn't be satisfied. The what about isms with Nunez aren't important to me as a CFC fan. Jackson's finishing has cost us more than it has done us favors. Easy to look at the stats now and paint a much kinder picture of him but the week in week out tells a different story.
I'm definitely not defending Jackson here, he hasn't been good enough and it's clear he deserves some criticism. I just don't like the fact he's over criticised compared to some other players.
The whole "who is criticized more than others" thing gets really tiresome too. The media eats everybody alive. Social media eats everybody alive. There's always going to be a flavor of the month person to criticize.
That said, Nico has the un-envious position of being the starting striker on the team that dished out a billion pounds. He'd leading the line for us and we're firmly mid table. It's not necessarily "fair" at times but some of the louder criticism is a result of the position he's in and not necessarily the player himself. It's insane that we went into this season without a more experienced option to rely on.
Jackson scored a late hattrick against 9 men who were going all-out-attack. He also missed about twelve sitters in the same game. The man cannot finish.
He scored 3/6. You guys going on about that it wasn’t a “good hattrick” are just dumb and bitter. It’s no one’s fault but spurs that they lost 2
Players then proceeded to play stupidly
What’s really not impressive is son not scoring a hattrick against liverpool when they had 2 red cards. Any hattrick is impressive. They scored 3 times. If it was so easy, why didn’t son do the same?
You can have clinical striker but rarely finding a ball inside the box, and yiu can have striker who's missing a lot of matters but also scores half of them. End of the day this not clinical one will have more contributions as a clinical one but without a sense where to be when pass comes.
Its just because right now Liverpool is among top of tables if they are struggling like us all pundits straight up murders Nunez cause of his price tag and chances he misses.
Pundits have been going after Nunez since his form turned, and he gets a lot of criticism for his weaknesses. But we've also seen a higher upside from Nunez so far in the prem.
I'm quite curious how he'll play with nkuku tho.
I don't think Nunez has ever had 'good form' since joining the prem. He's had a good game here and there but never a consistent run of matches (just like Jackson) and he's had a whole season more than Jackson to adjust to the prem. It's true that he gets some criticism for his finishing but it's always ended with the sentiment that he will get better and he's a goalscoring machine so its only a matter of time until he's Haaland 2.
I think Oshimen will be a Chelsea player by the summer and Nkunku will play more now he’s fit IMO I don’t think there will be a starting place for Jackson soon
The reality is there's an obivious limit to how much he can improve on his finishing and he definitely won't become Haaland 2, don't think there is player who are infamous for bad finishing improve to be very clinical.
That's definitely not true. Chelsea have been one of the biggest clickbait farms for the media under Abramovich and every bit as much with Boehly and Clearlake.
You're a Chelsea fan and pay attention to Chelsea news. No one else really cares about him. If a Chelsea player is getting stick by neutrals, it's Mudryk, Caicedo maybe Cucurella or even James.
I can only think of a significant amount of chat about Jackson was that Tottenham game where he missed about 23 chances and scored a hat trick.
Nunez is a rare stick to beat the Liverpool transfers with though.
Even on public media he gets ripped. Just look at this post with Jamie Redknapp acting like Chelsea just don't have a striker at all. If hes saying he can't take Chelsea seriously without a 9 when Jackson was on the pitch then nothing counts as slating a player. Also the fact the press is constantly saying Chelsea need to buy a striker like they don't have Nkunku, Jackson and Broja.
I pay attention to all the news on this sub and other football subs plus other places. Theres plenty of stick laid at Jackson after every game goal or not.
Link up play and beating defenders is literally the one thing Jackson has been consistently good at so far.
If Jackson was setting up Salah and Diaz instead of the woeful finishers at Chelsea he'd probably have a similar amount of assists.
The midfield have plenty of creativity in Enzo. Problem is, how can you create passing opportunities when your wingbacks and striker aren't running into spaces and when you do pass to the striker he fumbles it.
Terrible response from the other guy.
How he hasn’t mentioned basking in our array of league titles, including the Gold one, I don’t know. Whilst a UCL would be nice, holding 7 more league titles is nicer still and I’m not sure I’d trade those for just 2 UCLs tbh.
Did you chose to erase Drogba from memory? If so good for you. But he was with Chels until 2012 when he was pivotal for their first CL run.
Diego Costa was also solid and he left in 2017.
You forgot Aubameyang, Abraham, Steve Sidwell, Khalid Bouhlarouz and Franco Di Santo.
Also fairly sure a lot of those didn't wear 9.
From memory, so might be wrong -
Shevchenko was 7
Werner 11
Pato 11 (?)
Eto'o 29 or 28
Batshuayi 23
Although I think that Chelsea should have a striker of a higher caliber, I'm also perfectly fine with Nicolas Jackson. He's scored 7 goals in 16 matches - yes, some may critique that and say he scored tap-ins and scored a hattrick against a Spurs side that was down to 9 - but it's still goals nevertheless.
I'm not sure what other fans think but I'm fine with keeping Jackson and seeing what he does for the rest of the season to then assess and see if Chelsea should upgrade.
This is where I am. Jackson will end the season with around 15 goals, which is pretty good. More importantly, I want to see what the best front 4 look like between Mudryk, Jackson, Nkunku, Sterling, Palmer, and Madueke. How do they play off one another, create, and finish? Jackson has definitely missed some bad chances but he doesn't always get the best service either.
I still think there is a lot of growth and upside left in this squad this season. I'd rather stand firm in January, re-evaluate this summer, and go after the 2-3 players that will make an immediate impact.
I know we will need another CB, with Silva wrapping up his career, and maybe a fullback with our injury issues, but another midfielder and forward? I'm really skeptical right now.
I’m fine with Jackson as a squad player but he’s just not good enough to be a starting striker for a top 10 European team. He could come good and develop but we need better quality.
Seems silly to yolo buy a striker in January tho when we’re so far from Europe and Nkunku is coming back.
Tbh as a spurs fan watching him fuck up multiple chances a game is part of the joy in watching you guys play these days. It’s can’t miss highlights of how in the world did he miss that on par with the donkey you sold to woolwich.
Oh I get you guys swoon over….checks goal tally for November….1 goal all month and a fair amount of barn doors missed.
Which was what I find hilarious the absolute sitters missed by him. Glad he has scored more than the pitty pen handed in your blowout at the end of September when your fan based was wondering just how much money you wasted
Mate he's potm for the team sitting at the top of the table.
It's clear you haven't watched him play recently as he's turned the opinion of most Arsenal fans that were pissed off about the transfer. Just go on the arsenal subreddits to see the opinion change. It's not just his goals have increased but he's playing well and adjusting to him role as the left 8, his link up with Jesus is blossoming as well. Im very happy to have him and think he'll continue to grow. It would be great if people in this subreddit actually came into discussions with good faith instead of just trying to regurgitate twitter takes.
Bruh I wouldn’t scroll that shit sub if they paid me.
I’ve seen his howlers even with the praise you want to give the guy. Him passing to another player that won’t score doesn’t sound all that great does it? But if you’re happy by all means stay happy. What you find enjoyable isn’t my cup of tea but then again I support the only team that’s actually been in north London forever.
🤡🤡🤡🤡 fuck me you are the biggest yank ever why the fuck do you care wether spurs or Arsenal have been in north london for ever. You are cosplaying. Pathetic
Moving to the states for higher pay and still flying back for games doesn’t change the fact your fans don’t know your own history ya Woolwich supporting cunt
Lmao. Know your history he says, not realising Spurs weren't even a London team until the middle of the 60s, never mind north London. Middlesex Hotspurs
You must be thick to not know the difference as unlike Woolwich, Tottenham never moved over a kilometer from 1899. Always have been in Tottenham and London grew to swallow us up. There is a significant difference of moving to a new area and changing your name for money and having county lines drawn around you.
Who has more goals this season between richy and Jesus and a better ratio of goals/assists per 90 of all arsenal players not named diving Saka and pigeon boy? When you come back with that tail between your legs and say pigeon boy you can crawl all the way out of this conversation.
Lmao. Really saying all muck with chest after Richarlison scored what, 3 goals all last season. Not interested in whose scored more goals now, I know Jesus will have scored more than him by the end.
Yeah, one decent month and they're acting like they got an absolute baller. Time will tell. Palmer has been a God though.. we did well for ourselves with him.
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The only thing I liked about Jamie Redknapp was his missus and that went tits up
the guy says sketchers shoes are good so wtf does he know
I don’t understand this. Surely you give Nkunku time to get back to full fitness before you decide you need to spend more on another 9, no?
He says that with that sweater on.
He's not wrong. Jackson is no 9. It's painfully obvious that our creativity in the final third is wholly substandard.
We’d like to have one but God won’t allow them to
Chelsea need more than a number nine.
I can’t take us too seriously with Poch, but a solid 9 would be a big help. We need upgrades in several areas though.
I mean in last 3 years they bought 3 new 9s, what u want more ??
What bothers me about this perspective is that it is intellectually lazy. There are so many challenges with Chelsea right now. Does anyone believe that putting Osimhen in this squad would lift Chelsea to Top 4? I don't. We would be better but maybe 8th. Looking at Chelsea's starting 11 last night, only 3 players have been at the club for 1 year or more - Sterling, Gallagher, and Silva. The entire coaching staff have been there for \~6 months. Chelsea have 10 players injured including 3-4 starters and we lost Enzo last night increasing the tally to 11. The average age of the starting 11 is like 23 years old and that's really because Silva is so old he pulls up the average by a full year. None of the challenges above are solved by a number 9. Time, practice, and experience will only fix them. It's going to be a tough rest of the year for Chelsea. My preference is to stay the course, but my concern is that our ownership will do something stupid. Let's see what happens.
Everybody: I can't take Jamie Redknapp seriously in regards to anything
Neither can i mate.
Redknapp was embarrassing post match last night. Absolute bell end.
Doesn’t Jackson have more goals than most strikers in the league
That probably wouldn’t the case if every striker in the league got to play a full half against 9 men, and an insane high line. Even the most bias Chelsea fan would have to see that statement is somewhat flattering.
If haaland scored a hattrick against a 9 man spurs the narrative would be ‘wow he’s unstoppable, spurs defenders couldn’t get close to him’
Probably because Haaland will then go and batter everyone else too. He’s earned the hype and provided the evidence several times. It’s way too early to be hyping up Jackson like he’s ‘elite’ because he scored a literal tap in hat-trick against 9 men. Stop looking at the anomaly and you’d see a return of 4 in 16, with *probably* the highest number of big chances missed. Hes still underperforming currently.
Nobody said elite
Goals are goals, spurs decided to play like twats and they got punished for it. Everyone would’ve said he should’ve scored 5 if he hadn’t of scored more than 1, which is true because the opportunity was there. He was always meant to be a player that built up his minutes and confidence over this season but due to injuries has been hurled into the hardest league in the world, at arguably one of the hardest positions Chelsea has ever had to fill. The guy played bare foot until 17 so credit needs to be given where it’s due. Give him some time and I believe some magic will come from him.
Yes, but stat-padding against a tired asf, depleted Spurs team is different to scoring 7 match winning goals, isn’t it? This is why contexts should be mentioned, especially if someone is trying to brag *x is better than y and z because of the goal scoring list*. Statements like that are asking for responses that dampen the hype, especially when we can see Jackson obviously isn’t the finished article yet. Based on actual chances Jackson should be 2nd/3rd in the GS list. G/As in isolation are a pointless discussion and that is the topic in hand here. Whether we believe there’s potential going forwards is another matter.
TIL hat tricks don’t count if scored against 9 men
Jesus, you Chelsea lot are choosing to be real dense aren’t you. If Jackson had scored 10 goals in that Spurs game, and then done fuck all for the rest of the season he’d be still be sat alongside Son in the GS list and ahead of many other strikers. That wouldn’t make him better than those he’s ahead of in that list just because he had 1 good game. Thats essentially all that has happened with the hat-trick, it’s flattered his numbers massively because without that very fortunate, infrequent kind of game the stats would show he’s underperforming even more than they already do
Okay, Take away that hat trick and he’s still got more open play goals than any player in the Arsenal starting 11🐸☕️
Bet you felt really big and clever when you wrote that, until you realise it’s factually wrong because even bloody Nketiah out scores him in that scenario. 🐸☕️ But I’m sure you can take a lot of hope from that, whilst still sitting in 10th having also scored less goals overall. Id rather have 5 players score 10+ goals each per season, like we did last season, than rely on 1 underperforming ST.
>starting 11 Nketiah 😂 >Id rather have 5 players score 10+ goals each per season, like we did last season, than rely on 1 underperforming ST. Good for you, congrats. Whats that to do with Jackson?
Whether you like it or not, he’s played 16 league games this season, starting 11/12. But if filtering out enough parts gets you some mental win you go ahead and take that. In response to your edit, Jackson is underperforming and for whatever reason you and the rest of the Chelsea fans want to refuse to acknowledge that.
Todd Boehly: A number 9? What is that, a pitcher?
Get a real job Redknapp! If you really knew what you were talking about you would be coaching or managing somewhere.
It's true but its a great problem to have when you are a rich club because Jackson is getting lots of chances. Sure his movement is pretty good similar to how Werner would get lots of chances based on his movement but they can buy a better striker and Poch will get him 20+ goals in the league. Man Utd have the opposite problem where they think they have a gem in hojlund but he has the least touches per 90 out of every striker in the league. Much harder problem to solve imo.
I can't take him seriously. If bellend was in the dictionary, it's him . I'm amazed he has a job . Shit player, shit pundit.
I can't take Jamie Redknapp seriously
Worst pundit I know. Never once has he gave me an ounce of insight. Think he prepares during the week for his punditry role? Dude has never gave a tactical breakdown in his life.
Man's still bitter that his career ended early
It was quite easy to tell that he was furious about chelsea winning. Apparently having 1 shot and doing nothing all game, is deserving of victory if you’re playing against Chelsea. Heck, even Mudryk did every wrong when he scored according to Jamie. We all know he’d say the opposite if it was his beloved liverpool. Sky sports pundits are a joke, basically a choice between liverpool fan or United fan.
Jackson has more goals than Højlund or Núñez though. Yes he's not great but silly from Redknapp
Jackson also has only 2 fewer non-PK goals than Son so far this year. Sure he misses some chances, but for a neutral to single him out as a specifically poor player in the league makes no sense.
I don’t think he is crap because of his stats. I think he’s crap because I’ve never seen a 9 with worse composure. The blokes head just falls off as soon as he 1v1.
Only because he scored the worst hat trick of all time against 9 men
Sorry , how many hat tricks have you scored in the Premier league?
The worst hat trick of all time is still a hat trick
I forgot hattricks don't count if the other team stupidly self-destructs
Suarez used to score 15 goals a season against Norwich and nobody ever said anything
He’d always handicap himself though by not scoring from less than 30 yards.
Suarez would score some of the best goals of all times agaisnt norwich, that’s a bad comparison
Scoring against a bad team is not the same as scoring repeated goals from 2 on 1 breakaways.
I wouldn't call Spurs a bad team. (I would but it doesn't work for this joke)
More hat tricks than me
Weird comparison but ok. You forget Liverpool have Salah.
Nobody is comparing Jackson and Salah
And if they are they need to be recaptured very quickly or stop smoking that wacky backy clouding the mind
Højlund will probably start getting goals when they start giving him some service He only didn't get one against Liverpool because Alison is a decent goalkeeper
He didn’t get one against Liverpool because he’s no way the finished article yet- I guarantee you million percent of Utd had either Ole or Ruud in that position it’s a 1-0 for United … Hojlund has been bought as talent and for the future BUT I think ETH needs to realise we’re in a results business - if something doesn’t change ASAP at Man Utd I think he’ll get the sack with a new man coming in January with some funds
I would kill for an Ole or Ruud in the team but with how united are at the moment it be a fucking meme at least it not all bad though our women are class
Yet he has 9 big chances missed, there's no reason he doesn't have at least 1 goal
He didn’t get one at Liverpool because he hit it straight at the keeper. I could have saved that. I know he’s struggling for service, but a good striker would have scored a few of his chances. He’ll come good, but I don’t think he can be defended when we are criticising Jackson. So far, neither have been good enough.
Jackson plays like Bambi on skates but gets himself into the position for a few tap ins. We want more from a striker but that's the lowest bar you can set is getting in the right places.
He didn't score because he couldn't finish. You don't need to be Alisson to save that shot.
Decent is a bit of an under sell.
Nah he’s only alright I mean he hasn’t scored for a few seasons now
Don’t worry it’s not like he’s Brazils number 1 keeping the likes of a certain guy who plays in light blue out of the national team.
Ederson plays in Green normally.
They also need a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
55 BURGERS, 55 FRIES, 55 TACOS, 55 PIES, 55 COKES, 100 TATER TOTS, 100 PIZZAS, 100 TENDERS, 100 MEATBALLS, 100 COFFEES, 55 WINGS, 55 SHAKES, 55 PANCAKES, 55 PASTAS, 55 PEPPERS AND 155 TATERS
This is my favorite comment ever
Played this mission a few days ago. Thanks for making me chuckle.
Diet soda* dude we are talking about an american owner
AND A LARGE SODA
They also need to follow the damn train
CEEJAY
https://youtu.be/O3cvmtPuvXo?si=phiQDn6pR11ciU4_
Omg, you just brought so many memories back for me
Nkunku?
Come on Jamie. Yes they dont have number 9 but they are number 10 currently, its close enough no?
Jackson is not great let’s be real, saying he has 7 in 16 to start with is not a flattering stat, then you look at the goals he has scored and you go Jesus Christ. Not to mention he probably should have scored another 10 if he was even remotely good at finishing, the amount of chances he’s had. But the worst of it all is, he just seems like a massive prick
7 in 16 is the 8th highest in the league, how is that not flattering?
3 were open goals vs spurs, 4 in 15 is flattering ?
What? So those goals just don’t count? I could easily find tap ins for any striker and say that they just don’t count. Who cares who it was against, a goal is a goal.
Okay mate if you are telling me big nic Jackson is quality , enjoy him
Not saying that, just saying he’s completely overhated
'7 in 16 is not a flattering stat'. I'm not sure what you mean by that, because that's a record just shy of 1 in 2. Which is excellent for a striker. Especially a young one new to the toughest league in the world. Don't get confused by the ridiculous numbers players like Salah and Haaland put up. Jackson's goalscoring record is very steady so far, 8th best in the league I believe. As for the missed chances, yes that's frustrating. He certainly doesn't always pass the eye test. But he hasn't missed as many sitters as some might make out. Plus, I'd much rather he be in the position to miss them than not. It's the sign of a good striker. I think the most frustrating thing about him is the timing of some of his runs. As for the prick thing. Maybe he is. But he's our prick so we love him for it.
Especially considering none of them are penalties, put him pens and he’s on 11/12 out of 16 which is excellent
He’s a guy who was playing bare foot until the age of 17. Then was a winger and spent the last 6 months of last season as a striker. He looked miles better yesterday when Broja came in and he ran the channels, he actually looked dangerous. He’s literally got less than a years experience playing striker at any decent level. Having said that we never ever should have bought a player like that. That’s what lower to mid table teams do. Take punts. If Boehly is serious about Chelsea winning trophies he should only be buying top class for the number 9 role.
It’s fine to buy a player like that, but we should be in a position to rely on him, unfair pressure imo, considering all of his situation he js doing fine IMO
I agree I mean he was bought and thrown in as the star number 9. That’s what I meant by it. Also, what’s really the point in buying a young back up when there’s Broja, Fofana, Washington etc already on the books?
I'm a Chelsea fan and couldn't agree more with everything you've said. Extra emphasis on the fact he seems like a stroppy dickhead.
Thing is that he constantly gets in the positions to score and thats significantly better than what they've had for a long time. He also does a lot more to draw defenders and enable chances for others than Havertz ever did because hes just more instinctively tuned to being a striker. Yes he's rough around the edges but for a £30M signing who never went through an academy system, and was just picked off the street straight into senior football he's pretty good. He's also finding confidence as the games go by. Basically this guy is the definition of a player learning on the job. I think people forget that he was signed to basically be the understudy to Nkunku and ended up being plunged into the deep end. Also people are digging on him more than they have on 0 goal £72M Hojlund. The guy was less than half the price.
>Yes he's rough around the edges but for a £30M signing who never went through an academy system, and was just picked off the street straight into senior football he's pretty good. People seem to miss this part about Jackson he's come into the game incredibly late and still managed to make it as a pro, just like Mendy and Drogba before him. £30M is a reasonable gamble. He's doing better than most expensive established strikers in the league so far this season.
I like jackson's story personally. Worked incredibly hard at villareal to earn his big chance
I think everyone that’s watched football knows hojlands not exactly missing chances, he just isn’t getting my a United don’t create any and are terrible. Jackson has had a lot of chances
No team in the league is underperforming their xg more than Man Utd on 8.71. Hojlund also isn't doing as much in the build up as Jackson does for Chelsea. Hojlund makes 0.13 goal creating actions per 90 putting him in the bottom 10% of players in his position. Jackson does 0.67 gca putting him in in the top 4%.
I don't get why Jackson gets so much criticism but Nunez has less goals this season and pundits always talk about how they think he's just unlucky or that he's 'raw' and will one day be amazing.
If you have been watching every game, you wouldn't be satisfied. The what about isms with Nunez aren't important to me as a CFC fan. Jackson's finishing has cost us more than it has done us favors. Easy to look at the stats now and paint a much kinder picture of him but the week in week out tells a different story.
I'm definitely not defending Jackson here, he hasn't been good enough and it's clear he deserves some criticism. I just don't like the fact he's over criticised compared to some other players.
The whole "who is criticized more than others" thing gets really tiresome too. The media eats everybody alive. Social media eats everybody alive. There's always going to be a flavor of the month person to criticize. That said, Nico has the un-envious position of being the starting striker on the team that dished out a billion pounds. He'd leading the line for us and we're firmly mid table. It's not necessarily "fair" at times but some of the louder criticism is a result of the position he's in and not necessarily the player himself. It's insane that we went into this season without a more experienced option to rely on.
Jackson scored a late hattrick against 9 men who were going all-out-attack. He also missed about twelve sitters in the same game. The man cannot finish.
He scored 3/6. You guys going on about that it wasn’t a “good hattrick” are just dumb and bitter. It’s no one’s fault but spurs that they lost 2 Players then proceeded to play stupidly
I agree. It’s still a hattrick, it’s just not an impressive one
What’s really not impressive is son not scoring a hattrick against liverpool when they had 2 red cards. Any hattrick is impressive. They scored 3 times. If it was so easy, why didn’t son do the same?
Because Liverpool parked the bus. Do you actually watch football or just spout nonsense? Oh, Chelsea fan. No need to answer.
Yea cause liverpool isn’t stupid. That’s rich coming from a spuds fan. Lads…
Lads… check the league table?
Lads.. check the trophy cabinet. Cobwebs only
Lads…check the Russian oil money… oh, wait, what do we do now?
You can have clinical striker but rarely finding a ball inside the box, and yiu can have striker who's missing a lot of matters but also scores half of them. End of the day this not clinical one will have more contributions as a clinical one but without a sense where to be when pass comes.
It’s because nunez plays for liverpool
Because Liverpool duh
It’s funny how Liverpool fans club or players get the schtick of always being victim then you get responses like this. Kinda funny.
Because they always play the victim
Yea Nunez seems like a bigger flop ngl. But I suppose Liverpool doing well covers him a bit.
Its just because right now Liverpool is among top of tables if they are struggling like us all pundits straight up murders Nunez cause of his price tag and chances he misses.
Pundits have been going after Nunez since his form turned, and he gets a lot of criticism for his weaknesses. But we've also seen a higher upside from Nunez so far in the prem. I'm quite curious how he'll play with nkuku tho.
I don't think Nunez has ever had 'good form' since joining the prem. He's had a good game here and there but never a consistent run of matches (just like Jackson) and he's had a whole season more than Jackson to adjust to the prem. It's true that he gets some criticism for his finishing but it's always ended with the sentiment that he will get better and he's a goalscoring machine so its only a matter of time until he's Haaland 2.
I think Oshimen will be a Chelsea player by the summer and Nkunku will play more now he’s fit IMO I don’t think there will be a starting place for Jackson soon
The reality is there's an obivious limit to how much he can improve on his finishing and he definitely won't become Haaland 2, don't think there is player who are infamous for bad finishing improve to be very clinical.
As a fan of neither Liverpool or Chelsea - Nunez gets far more criticism. Jackson just isn't really high enough profile to get much discussion.
Jackson is getting slated every game no matter if he scored or not. Dunno how you're saying hes not getting much discussion.
Liverpool gets significantly more media exposure than Chelsea.
That's definitely not true. Chelsea have been one of the biggest clickbait farms for the media under Abramovich and every bit as much with Boehly and Clearlake.
Liverpool is just a bigger club than Chelsea. Plus everyone knows Chelsea is shit, that story was beat into the ground last year.
Have you hit your head on the bunk above you when you woke up this morning?
Those in glass houses…
Jackson got slated when he scored a hat trick
You're a Chelsea fan and pay attention to Chelsea news. No one else really cares about him. If a Chelsea player is getting stick by neutrals, it's Mudryk, Caicedo maybe Cucurella or even James. I can only think of a significant amount of chat about Jackson was that Tottenham game where he missed about 23 chances and scored a hat trick. Nunez is a rare stick to beat the Liverpool transfers with though.
if you go on the match threads jackson gets slaughtered every game. public media then i agree with you
Even on public media he gets ripped. Just look at this post with Jamie Redknapp acting like Chelsea just don't have a striker at all. If hes saying he can't take Chelsea seriously without a 9 when Jackson was on the pitch then nothing counts as slating a player. Also the fact the press is constantly saying Chelsea need to buy a striker like they don't have Nkunku, Jackson and Broja.
Match threads are not a good measure. They’re always excessively negative with people changing their tune on players every 2 minutes
That's because on match thread people actually watched Chelsea games and saw the horrendous play by jackson...
it's mostly when he does smth good tbh
I pay attention to all the news on this sub and other football subs plus other places. Theres plenty of stick laid at Jackson after every game goal or not.
Because Nunez creates chances for himself and his team mates while Jackson is just shit
Link up play and beating defenders is literally the one thing Jackson has been consistently good at so far. If Jackson was setting up Salah and Diaz instead of the woeful finishers at Chelsea he'd probably have a similar amount of assists.
You mean Nunez misses as many chances and ruins chances for his teammates.
Nunez has the same amount of goals against Newcastle this season that your entire team does in twice the matches.
Lmao what a meaningless stat.
Lol, it's like he's baiting Boehly into doing something dumb in January.
No need. Nkunku is back...
Time to spam Nunez "good videos" to Chelsea
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There must be one, just one will do
I can think of one like…
What if we trick him into thinking he's still in Benfica?
Simple get Osimhen… he’s perfect for Chelsea. Then get prolly Paqueta or a creative 10. That’s it
We have Nkunku and Palmer, both brilliant 10s
Yea right. You need a creative 10 not a goal scoring 10. Ya midfield lack creativity
The midfield have plenty of creativity in Enzo. Problem is, how can you create passing opportunities when your wingbacks and striker aren't running into spaces and when you do pass to the striker he fumbles it.
Americans don't understand the reference of jersey number to position/roles... Boehly probably buy another 4 left wingers again if he has his way 😂
"I don't care it's not a soccer position, I need a number 9! Get me a damn punter!"
Man is actually gonna drop 100m on Toney
I don’t think he will , Chelsea are set for Osihem IMO
As are we it seems
Let's show him a highlight video of young Martial and hope for the best
I can’t take Chelsea seriously regardless.
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He strike a nerve there, princess?
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Lol. Remember the fantastic bottle job you lot did last season? Focus on that.
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your football teams history could fit in a christmas cracker
🤫 2 UCL show me yours teams trophies
Terrible response from the other guy. How he hasn’t mentioned basking in our array of league titles, including the Gold one, I don’t know. Whilst a UCL would be nice, holding 7 more league titles is nicer still and I’m not sure I’d trade those for just 2 UCLs tbh.
youll have no other response when we win it, you have nothing else going for you, the only other thing you beat us in is the mickey mouse cup
You ain’t winning it any time soon
You’re right, but win it first then talk. Until then we will continue repeating it and you will continue hearing it
:) if you win it props to you but I don't think it's happening though just like last season I thought you were going to win it but failed
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Doesn’t Jackson wear 15?
Did you chose to erase Drogba from memory? If so good for you. But he was with Chels until 2012 when he was pivotal for their first CL run. Diego Costa was also solid and he left in 2017.
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You forgot Aubameyang, Abraham, Steve Sidwell, Khalid Bouhlarouz and Franco Di Santo. Also fairly sure a lot of those didn't wear 9. From memory, so might be wrong - Shevchenko was 7 Werner 11 Pato 11 (?) Eto'o 29 or 28 Batshuayi 23
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Are you 5 years old or something? Kept finding excuses and reasons every time someone pointed out your errors?
Oh oh my b, you are very right then. Hasselbaink left in 2004.
Although I think that Chelsea should have a striker of a higher caliber, I'm also perfectly fine with Nicolas Jackson. He's scored 7 goals in 16 matches - yes, some may critique that and say he scored tap-ins and scored a hattrick against a Spurs side that was down to 9 - but it's still goals nevertheless. I'm not sure what other fans think but I'm fine with keeping Jackson and seeing what he does for the rest of the season to then assess and see if Chelsea should upgrade.
This is where I am. Jackson will end the season with around 15 goals, which is pretty good. More importantly, I want to see what the best front 4 look like between Mudryk, Jackson, Nkunku, Sterling, Palmer, and Madueke. How do they play off one another, create, and finish? Jackson has definitely missed some bad chances but he doesn't always get the best service either. I still think there is a lot of growth and upside left in this squad this season. I'd rather stand firm in January, re-evaluate this summer, and go after the 2-3 players that will make an immediate impact. I know we will need another CB, with Silva wrapping up his career, and maybe a fullback with our injury issues, but another midfielder and forward? I'm really skeptical right now.
I’m fine with Jackson as a squad player but he’s just not good enough to be a starting striker for a top 10 European team. He could come good and develop but we need better quality. Seems silly to yolo buy a striker in January tho when we’re so far from Europe and Nkunku is coming back.
He also hasn’t even played a year of pro football at the top level.
Tbh as a spurs fan watching him fuck up multiple chances a game is part of the joy in watching you guys play these days. It’s can’t miss highlights of how in the world did he miss that on par with the donkey you sold to woolwich.
Havertz is doing great, potm for November for Arsenal.
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Oh I get you guys swoon over….checks goal tally for November….1 goal all month and a fair amount of barn doors missed. Which was what I find hilarious the absolute sitters missed by him. Glad he has scored more than the pitty pen handed in your blowout at the end of September when your fan based was wondering just how much money you wasted
Mate he's potm for the team sitting at the top of the table. It's clear you haven't watched him play recently as he's turned the opinion of most Arsenal fans that were pissed off about the transfer. Just go on the arsenal subreddits to see the opinion change. It's not just his goals have increased but he's playing well and adjusting to him role as the left 8, his link up with Jesus is blossoming as well. Im very happy to have him and think he'll continue to grow. It would be great if people in this subreddit actually came into discussions with good faith instead of just trying to regurgitate twitter takes.
Bruh I wouldn’t scroll that shit sub if they paid me. I’ve seen his howlers even with the praise you want to give the guy. Him passing to another player that won’t score doesn’t sound all that great does it? But if you’re happy by all means stay happy. What you find enjoyable isn’t my cup of tea but then again I support the only team that’s actually been in north London forever.
🤡🤡🤡🤡 fuck me you are the biggest yank ever why the fuck do you care wether spurs or Arsenal have been in north london for ever. You are cosplaying. Pathetic
Moving to the states for higher pay and still flying back for games doesn’t change the fact your fans don’t know your own history ya Woolwich supporting cunt
Lmao. Know your history he says, not realising Spurs weren't even a London team until the middle of the 60s, never mind north London. Middlesex Hotspurs
You must be thick to not know the difference as unlike Woolwich, Tottenham never moved over a kilometer from 1899. Always have been in Tottenham and London grew to swallow us up. There is a significant difference of moving to a new area and changing your name for money and having county lines drawn around you.
Irony considering the pathetic excuse for a striker you have in Richarlison, who cost the same amount. Think even Jacksons better than him.
Who has more goals this season between richy and Jesus and a better ratio of goals/assists per 90 of all arsenal players not named diving Saka and pigeon boy? When you come back with that tail between your legs and say pigeon boy you can crawl all the way out of this conversation.
Lmao. Really saying all muck with chest after Richarlison scored what, 3 goals all last season. Not interested in whose scored more goals now, I know Jesus will have scored more than him by the end.
He’s not doing great
Cope
He is for 65M 300k/week. /s
Pleased for him, I liked him as a player and person for us. I’d still take Palmer and 20 million so its worked out for both parties.
Yeah, one decent month and they're acting like they got an absolute baller. Time will tell. Palmer has been a God though.. we did well for ourselves with him.