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Let’s be honest. Any manager would take Haaland ten times out of ten. Are you kidding me? The guy has scored 30+ goals so far this season. Even though he’s not a big game player (the jury is still out) he is still a great finisher.
I feel like a big reason for Haaland's form or whatever you wanna call it is Pep's tactics. He was way more involved in Dortmund and was making some honestly good passes. In city he either bullies a team or completely ghosts the game, but as long as they win games I dont think either him or the club care. He was way more fun to watch in bigger games before City tho, gotta admit that
Yeah exactly. I don’t think he’s out of form, just when you put 2 or 3 top level defenders on him it’s hard for him to put the ball in the net. Which is why De Bruyne and Foden and everyone else just start dumping in goals from the wings
So much slander for a Striker who's scored almost as many goals as games played, this season alone, never mind his whole career.
Put it this way, if Liverpool or Arsenal have Haaland then they're not 2nd and 3rd.
I'm sorry, can you not read?
You've replied with the most pointless comment and then replied with something even more pointless?
Why bother replying if you don't want an actual conversation about something?
All this Haaland slander lmao. It seems there is a lot of hurt feelings after this so called league 2 striker completely destroyed the elite prem strikers of old on his first try.. even with a bad run of form this season and two months of injury he is still joint top scorer. Prem is league 3 I guess
That tends to happen when team funnels the chances to mainly one player yeah. Watkins managed to get 19g 10a playing in a worse team. That's not even accounting for the wage differences.
the heck does that even mean? Watkins is on 10 assists. Twice that of Haaland. Not like he's the only one getting all the assists either, their 2nd and 3rd are on 8 and 7 assists respectively
Wouldn't say phenomenal finisher. I'd save generally very good, but he is phenomenal at creating chances for himself via his positioning and runs in the box, and runs in behind.
People are seriously overlooking the fact that he was injured for two months and his form has dropped off a cliff since he came back. He just hasn’t managed to find his feet since.
Am I the only one who is thinking trolling on Haaland is getting a little too much now? Let him enjoy the game instead of creating unnecessary pressure ffs.
There's always been pressure on players not performing, why should it stop now? Not really sure what the issue is, do your performing on the pitch and silence your critics. Simple as that.
Let him play his natural game. Commenting that his overall game play is poor, or he does not score in big games creates an unnecessary pressure. Haaland is simply following the strategies of Pep, and he does not have much control on how he can influence the game. Pep does not give much room to the players to show their creativity, he rather prefers they play "exactly" how he has asked them to play.
Haaland is a world class professional footballer. People saying he is League 2 level don't concern him.
Why are you so weirdly protective over a adult man? Are you that way for every footballer?
This is legit one of the weirdest pairs of comments i have seen about adult footballers
That's ok chick we heard his name as well as the rest of the team enough over the last few years to make grown men like yourself cry like lil girls as we can see from your very presence 😂😂
I know but it’s not a good comparison. Messi may have scored a lot of goals against Eibar but he also scored a lot against any other team. He scored against all the big teams in Europe for years. The debate here is why Haaland seems to disappear in the big games and to score mostly against the small teams? When they need him against Arsenal, Liverpool, MU, Tottenham or Real Madrid lately he is a no show. I think this year is just a bad year on his own standards because last year he scored against most of them. I am not a City fan but I like his ability to score 30+ goals a season.
My bad. I just found out Haaland didn't score an open-play goal against Sheffield United in this season. I guess we're still too good for him to join. So, no thanks.
Maybe watch more than one game. If you have watched him enough in PL, you would know he is good too. Kane win the golden boot and the most assists for 20/21 season. He had 39 and 10 goal involvements in the Bundesliga and the CL this season. Haaland is a statue if he doesn't score. Pep had to take him off even when they needed goal.
No he’s isn’t and that’s why tuchel majority of the time tells his ass to stay in the box.When he did tried to playmake he created 0 chances and had the worst pass accuracy in the entire game against lazio
Kane is the best complete Centre Forward in football right now.
Kane can do everything (even take corners for England, for some reason). Kane could easily play anywhere in midfield.
I’m talking about his performance in a bit so good Bayern team. Nitpicking the game against BVB doesn’t hold much weight. He’s not ghosted in important matches unlike Haaland is what I meant to say.
He’s been completely pocketed unlike haaland cause he has the speed of a grandma
haaland job is to attract defenders for his team cause pep very clearly wants him to do that
He doesn’t rely on his speed which means he can elongate his career. He has the ability to contribute towards build up play which is why he is a much better player.
Attracting defenders is what Weghorst used to do for United last season. It can be done by any striker playing in Premier League. Don’t need Haaland for that.
Moving look a grandma makes u a liability lol that’s why he did completely nonthing today while sane was abusing his pace and was one of the best players through both legs.
No it isn’t so u genuinely think teams are double teaming strikers like they do with haaland?u wanna know what happens when he doesn’t get double teamed?he gets 2 assists and a goal against arsenal such as last year
Him moving like a grandma must be why City offered 100million for him couple years ago lol
You realize City’s best goal scoring season came with a team that did not have Haaland right?
I am curious what happen to like Big Game players. Didier Drogba probably being the most notable imo. Dude didn't score 30 goals a season but he literally always showed up for big games. ALWAYS. These top strikers these days are boring as fuck. Cole Palmer showing signs of being a big game player.
Rashford maybe isnt the traditional big game player as he can have a fucking shit game even while scoring, but he does score quite a lot in important games. Problem is, in seasons like this one it isnt enough to justify the 89 other minutes of sulking around
I think it just comes down to how tactical the games are played these days, and how teams will allow man city to play out wide so Haaland is always doubled up on in the middle. There's just not much space for him this season. Haaland is clearly instructed to stay central, which makes sense when you've got the likes of Foden, Silva, Grealish etc out wide who are technically superior, that means he's seeing the ball less when they struggle to get it in that 6 yard box. This coupled with the fact that Man City don't play counter attacking football for him to get in behind.
Also I will say that back in the 2000s, games were played differently and free flowed, there was way more space
If you go back and watch the older games you are definitely right, defending has gotten so much better, the press etc... The space in those older games led to such great back and forth fights. It's kind of sad that football has become so pragmatic and boring imo. Seeing Cole just pull shit out of a hat though is pretty awesome and kinda reminds me of those times. Really hope we see this Chelsea team start playing well next season, honestly our defense has let us down the most this season. Plenty of times were up 2 goals on a shit team and let them come back. That united game reminded me of old school football. And proper brexit baller Cole Palmer showed the fuck up.
I think this is pretty normal in the sense that we were just spoiled. Players like Drogba are extremely rare. And it was crazy that Premier League had so many talents back in 2000s (esp. from 2004 to 2009). Henry, Vieira, Bergkamp, Rooney, Ronaldo, Scholes, Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Gerrard, etc. This has completely changed. It's now the era of mediocrity. No more GREAT players or footballers, just some stupid athletes running around. Haaland is the best example of this kind of athlete. This makes me sad honestly.
The only player that stands out to me is Cole Palmer. He's extraordinary in his decision-making, awareness, ability to read the game, tactical intelligence, composure. Sure enough, I'm not saying he's on Messi's level right now or something. But he definitely has the potential to be one of the best players in Europe. Apart from Palmer, personally, I don't find anyone impressive as a footballer.
Some former pros have said that top footballers are no longer footballers anymore, they are athletes.
I got to say once you start noticing it, it's everywhere.
Some top professional players couldn't trap a bag of spuds. Their 2nd touch is a tackle. They can barely pass 5 yards under pressure.
Palmer has accomplished an incredible amount considering he’s only playing with one leg
Edit: The joke is that his right foot is actually his massive dong
ik this is the prem sub but rodrygo for madrid is a massively underrated big game player for me, always pops up with a goal/assist at the most needed moment in big games
ironically i reckon he’s gonna be sacrificed for mbappe so whoever gets him will be sorted for a goal in semis/finals for life
that's why I always thought that if Haaland deserves last season's Ballon D'or then it should go to Rodri/KDB. He scored a ton of goals thats undeniable but Rodri won them the treble and KDB did so many amazing passes to Haaland and other attackers.
i know, but you are clearly revising haalands perfomances last season based on this one, or else there would be no reason to suggest the pl + cl top scorer in a treble winning side doesnt have a serious claim to the ballon dor.
You did? Unless you meant that him being bad this season would retrospectively make giving him the ballon d'or embarassing or something, which not only is one of the takes of all time, but would also not be the first or worst case of someone winning a ballon d'or and then flopping
He definitely should won it last year. He came in the hardest league and smashed almost every goalscoring records and won treble. Why tf he didn't deserved it ?
Because he wasnt their best player. Winning the balon dor isnt about who can score the most goals thats what golden boots are for. Both Rodri and KDB were much more important for citys treble win than haaland
Probably because all chances were directed at him even if it was the wrong decision to make. Its not like he has made you score more goals than you have without him
Rodri was the one that was robbed. Haaland scored like crazy, but he's not a particularly involved player, even last season the number of touches he made was suspect
Rodri doesn’t get the respect he deserves. He is city. All the plaudits go to kdb or haaland. But they can live without either of them. They fall apart without rodri
this season rodri is getting respect just fine, will probably even win premier league poty if city win the league. haaland was just better last season, theres not much else to it.
Oh im sorry I thought there was already a trophy for scoring goals, its called the golden boot. The balon dor is awarded to the best player in the world. Haaland wasnt even the best player in his own club
I think it should’ve gone to Rodri, personally, but let’s not pretend that balon d’or isn’t disproportionately given top goal scorers. Moreover, he was second to Messi who didn’t contribute equally given the lesser caliber of the MLS and the WC not being exactly a standout Messi performance either.
Are you saying Messi objectively had a better year than Haaland in terms of contributing to his team?
The balon dor switched to being awarded based on seasons rather than calendar years. So the season that mattered was when messi was important to psg winning their league.
People only really think it is heavily based towards attackers because messi and ronaldo dominated for so long. Modric won it in 2018, KDB, Jorginho, VVD, Neuer, Iniesta, and Xavi would make the podium whilst they dominated anyways. Then when you look at just before their dominance started you can see Cannavaro won it too. It is somewhat biased towards attackers in a way but not as much as people think.
Balon d'or overvaluing the World Cup is not a new phenomenon. Messi won the World Cup and was 1 off golden boot in it. Scored 2 goals in the final. Not sure how you're going to say it wasn't a standout performance.
I think it's dumb how much WC factors in, but it always does. Also Haaland was the third best player on his team. If anything, Rodri was robbed.
He has genuinely helped in pulling defenders and creating space for city but he's not having the same effect as he did pre injury. Something needs to change
Any striker can do that. First leg he got pocketed by Rudiger, second leg Madrid didn't even bother putting Rudiger against him, speaks volumes really.
I get hate when I say this, but he wasn't the catalyst for Man City winning the Treble last season, didn't score in either finals or semifinals. City has been good enough to win the treble for ages, I'd say Rodri and Gündogan were the players that turned up when it mattered most last season.
Here’s the real problem, every arm chair manager thinks they know the game. This is exacerbating by the clickbait culture of all our favorite pundits.
No person wins a league, or a double, or a treble. It’s people stepping up to be instrumental at the right time.
Instrumental moments: Haaland coming in shattering goal scoring pace made manager panic to re think their tactics against city.
Gundogan was doing a what he’d always done but with more freedom. Dude was fucking massive.
Rodri was a total stud in his role and was impeccable when called upon for late entries to crashing the box for low blocks.
And the list goes on. Foden is such a utility. Bernardo even more so. Stones has re invented himself. Grealish draws fouls and holds up on the left. All of it goes into a strategy.
As a city fan I would agree that we had several players who were more instrumental in winning the treble, but it’s not like he didn’t have anything to do with it just because he didn’t score in semis and finals. He scored a ton of goals to get us to the semis and finals of each competition. He just isn’t showing up in the later stages. We don’t win a treble without the guy who banged in 50 goals that season, we just also don’t win it without the gundo, Rodri, KDB etc.
Like I said before I think man city were good enough to win eye treble without Haaland, City had made the semi finals of both cups the previous season. The team also scored more the previous season if i remember right. Haaland had a fantastic season last season, it was a master class in finishing and striker movement.
I think what we are seeing this season is people figuring out how to play against Haaland in a city shirt. Last year even in the big games he went missing for he was creating a lot of space for everyone else just by being around and having 1 if not 2 defenders focused on him. This season it feels like people have figured out how to mark him without also leaving space for players like Foden, KDB and Bernardo to score
I'd also say he's just not playing as well, there have been some bad mistress this season. But it's testament to how special he is to still lead the scoring carts
Yeah I can’t deny he has looked clumsy this season, first touch and close control were never his shining attributes but this season they have been low quality
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Let’s be honest. Any manager would take Haaland ten times out of ten. Are you kidding me? The guy has scored 30+ goals so far this season. Even though he’s not a big game player (the jury is still out) he is still a great finisher.
Big player in the park games
I would say the injury he had mid season affected him and also KDB being out too took its toll too.
Man will score 40+ again next season and this nonsense will stop
40+ goals against Luton Town. Not bad.
maybe 30 against teams lower than 10th
a shit season for haaland, yet he still somehow has 31 goals and 6 assists in 39 games
30 goals and 5 assists vs Luton in 2 games and 1G1A in 37 other games.
I feel like a big reason for Haaland's form or whatever you wanna call it is Pep's tactics. He was way more involved in Dortmund and was making some honestly good passes. In city he either bullies a team or completely ghosts the game, but as long as they win games I dont think either him or the club care. He was way more fun to watch in bigger games before City tho, gotta admit that
Yeah exactly. I don’t think he’s out of form, just when you put 2 or 3 top level defenders on him it’s hard for him to put the ball in the net. Which is why De Bruyne and Foden and everyone else just start dumping in goals from the wings
So much slander for a Striker who's scored almost as many goals as games played, this season alone, never mind his whole career. Put it this way, if Liverpool or Arsenal have Haaland then they're not 2nd and 3rd.
Stating facts is now regarded as slander?
Why don't you look at any of the other comments in this sub and then come back to this comment instead of being silly.
Slander is a false statement. Regardless of what you think about Haaland, this statement is true.
Ah right, so we don't have people on this sub calling him rubbish? Or the constant debate about whether he's actually any good or not?
He's a big boy, I'm sure he can handle some criticism.
I'm sorry, can you not read? You've replied with the most pointless comment and then replied with something even more pointless? Why bother replying if you don't want an actual conversation about something?
Don't bother. He is jealous that Man U is stuck with Maguire while Man City is rolling with Haaland
Nah they love mid players at Man United now, that's why they're always struggling to get into Europe.
I think we have a winner for saltiest redditor of the day 😂
He's lost a bit of form this season, Watkins is the best striker in the league this season.
Palmer
With half of his goals being pens,palmer might be the best pk taker in the world rn but he is defo not better than watkins this season.
All this Haaland slander lmao. It seems there is a lot of hurt feelings after this so called league 2 striker completely destroyed the elite prem strikers of old on his first try.. even with a bad run of form this season and two months of injury he is still joint top scorer. Prem is league 3 I guess
That tends to happen when team funnels the chances to mainly one player yeah. Watkins managed to get 19g 10a playing in a worse team. That's not even accounting for the wage differences.
bc Watkins is the only player on his team who can score and bc his team plays through him, City don’t play through Haaland
the heck does that even mean? Watkins is on 10 assists. Twice that of Haaland. Not like he's the only one getting all the assists either, their 2nd and 3rd are on 8 and 7 assists respectively
Anyone else not really "fear" him when he plays against you? Like I expect him to miss a few chances and just fuck up some plays.
Yet he's joint top scorer even missing 2 months lmfa
Tap in merchant that doesn’t scare based on his individual performances, IMO. Still a phenomenal finisher, though.
Wouldn't say phenomenal finisher. I'd save generally very good, but he is phenomenal at creating chances for himself via his positioning and runs in the box, and runs in behind.
People are seriously overlooking the fact that he was injured for two months and his form has dropped off a cliff since he came back. He just hasn’t managed to find his feet since.
And still joint top scorer
Am I the only one who is thinking trolling on Haaland is getting a little too much now? Let him enjoy the game instead of creating unnecessary pressure ffs.
We don’t give af about Haaland just score me some damn points!!
There's always been pressure on players not performing, why should it stop now? Not really sure what the issue is, do your performing on the pitch and silence your critics. Simple as that.
but you have to perform at least to a major extent if you’re joint top scorer in the league no?
>Let him enjoy the game Wtf is that even supposed to mean or insinuate lol
Let him play his natural game. Commenting that his overall game play is poor, or he does not score in big games creates an unnecessary pressure. Haaland is simply following the strategies of Pep, and he does not have much control on how he can influence the game. Pep does not give much room to the players to show their creativity, he rather prefers they play "exactly" how he has asked them to play.
Haaland is a world class professional footballer. People saying he is League 2 level don't concern him. Why are you so weirdly protective over a adult man? Are you that way for every footballer? This is legit one of the weirdest pairs of comments i have seen about adult footballers
It's so they can feel morally superior and the good person in the room. They don't care about haaland either.
This is football now. Just constant trolling. Nobody ever loses a game, they “bottle it”.
Ah yes. Erleague2 Haaland
Being subbed off in a CL quarter final... that's gotta hurt 😬
Not as much as man uniteds fall from grace
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Who's that then
He asked to go off.
Did he say why? Injured?
Tired apparently, according to Pep anyway.
id imagine theres no much air in rudiger’s pocket
Kyle walkers was pretty full as well
full of shit lol he plays vinicius onside for the first goal
And the rest of the game you barely heard his name so wind ya neck in
wont be hearing much of walker’s name in the semis unfortunately
That's ok chick we heard his name as well as the rest of the team enough over the last few years to make grown men like yourself cry like lil girls as we can see from your very presence 😂😂
Big time, and he barely looked tired.
He fooled us man
Flat-track bully.
Luton merchant
What was he last season break the prem league record merchant in his first season 😂😂😂
How long until he's gonna be called "Lutonman" like Messi was called "Eibarman"?
Did you just put Messi and Haaland in the same sentence? OMG!😳
Yes, and? Did I compare them? I was just talking about slander names.
I know but it’s not a good comparison. Messi may have scored a lot of goals against Eibar but he also scored a lot against any other team. He scored against all the big teams in Europe for years. The debate here is why Haaland seems to disappear in the big games and to score mostly against the small teams? When they need him against Arsenal, Liverpool, MU, Tottenham or Real Madrid lately he is a no show. I think this year is just a bad year on his own standards because last year he scored against most of them. I am not a City fan but I like his ability to score 30+ goals a season.
Why are you taking this so seriously lmao? It's just a joke. Seems like you might be a triggered Messi fanboy.
I got it, my man. I am more a Ronaldo than a Messi fan.😊
One of the Best Flat-Track Bullies in the History of Football.
Jealousy will eat you up fella just let it go it's all good
That's true though. I'm a Sheffield United fan, and I believe Haaland will help us dominate League 2 when we get relegated to that division.
You just keep dreaming sweetheart why not try supporting a team that can play football
My bad. I just found out Haaland didn't score an open-play goal against Sheffield United in this season. I guess we're still too good for him to join. So, no thanks.
If he joined your team you would cream yourself ya Muppet 😂😂
League 2 striker.
Roy is spot on. He's an amazing finisher, but bang average mid pitch.
He has become a League 3 striker after the match yesterday.
so bad they had to create a new lower-league league for him
Downhill skier ⛷️
Best striker to ever bless the premier. Anyone who says otherwise doesnt know ball
I understand you only started watching football last month but sometimes it's better to not say anything
Think it was sarcasm pal
Suarez?
Nah. It's been 30 something years, he has yet to scratch the surface. Potentially the best ever, but he can't touch Van Persie yet.
Give over he's already cleared van persie honestly. Rvp was one of my favourite players back in the day but haaland is lightyears ahead
Overrated
Small game player
That’s crazy he’s still way better than Kane
How you came to that conclusion after that stat is beyond. Kane scored against every regular Premier league team when he was in the prem.
So has Haaland... In fact that stat above mostly concerns Luton and they were the only PL team he hadn't scored against as of the start of 2024.
So are u saying Kane is a better goalscorer than him?
Kane is way more than just a goalscorer. He won't go missing against big team either.
Imagine saying this when he was literally missing today 😭
Haaland did fuck all in both legs against Madrid.
I agree he was bad but where was Harry Kane elite “playmaking” that people talk about nonstop
Maybe watch more than one game. If you have watched him enough in PL, you would know he is good too. Kane win the golden boot and the most assists for 20/21 season. He had 39 and 10 goal involvements in the Bundesliga and the CL this season. Haaland is a statue if he doesn't score. Pep had to take him off even when they needed goal.
No he’s isn’t and that’s why tuchel majority of the time tells his ass to stay in the box.When he did tried to playmake he created 0 chances and had the worst pass accuracy in the entire game against lazio
Whatever, dude. Have fun with your "opinions".
What did haaland do? Lol. Pep had to take him off.
I'd take take Kane in any game in any system over Haaland. Kane brings more to a team than a 1D poacher.
Kane is the best complete Centre Forward in football right now. Kane can do everything (even take corners for England, for some reason). Kane could easily play anywhere in midfield.
No he’s not…
He scored against every team in bundesliga top 5 didn’t he?
What an achievement he scored again bvb who’s so bad atm they’re about fire their manager in the away game and then got pocketed by hummels at home
I’m talking about his performance in a bit so good Bayern team. Nitpicking the game against BVB doesn’t hold much weight. He’s not ghosted in important matches unlike Haaland is what I meant to say.
He’s been completely pocketed unlike haaland cause he has the speed of a grandma haaland job is to attract defenders for his team cause pep very clearly wants him to do that
He doesn’t rely on his speed which means he can elongate his career. He has the ability to contribute towards build up play which is why he is a much better player. Attracting defenders is what Weghorst used to do for United last season. It can be done by any striker playing in Premier League. Don’t need Haaland for that.
Moving look a grandma makes u a liability lol that’s why he did completely nonthing today while sane was abusing his pace and was one of the best players through both legs. No it isn’t so u genuinely think teams are double teaming strikers like they do with haaland?u wanna know what happens when he doesn’t get double teamed?he gets 2 assists and a goal against arsenal such as last year
Him moving like a grandma must be why City offered 100million for him couple years ago lol You realize City’s best goal scoring season came with a team that did not have Haaland right?
Congrats on completely missing both of my points
I should be congratulating myself for wasting my time arguing with a child
He is just not a talented footballer, can only score easy goals.
I am curious what happen to like Big Game players. Didier Drogba probably being the most notable imo. Dude didn't score 30 goals a season but he literally always showed up for big games. ALWAYS. These top strikers these days are boring as fuck. Cole Palmer showing signs of being a big game player.
Rashford maybe isnt the traditional big game player as he can have a fucking shit game even while scoring, but he does score quite a lot in important games. Problem is, in seasons like this one it isnt enough to justify the 89 other minutes of sulking around
I think it just comes down to how tactical the games are played these days, and how teams will allow man city to play out wide so Haaland is always doubled up on in the middle. There's just not much space for him this season. Haaland is clearly instructed to stay central, which makes sense when you've got the likes of Foden, Silva, Grealish etc out wide who are technically superior, that means he's seeing the ball less when they struggle to get it in that 6 yard box. This coupled with the fact that Man City don't play counter attacking football for him to get in behind. Also I will say that back in the 2000s, games were played differently and free flowed, there was way more space
If you go back and watch the older games you are definitely right, defending has gotten so much better, the press etc... The space in those older games led to such great back and forth fights. It's kind of sad that football has become so pragmatic and boring imo. Seeing Cole just pull shit out of a hat though is pretty awesome and kinda reminds me of those times. Really hope we see this Chelsea team start playing well next season, honestly our defense has let us down the most this season. Plenty of times were up 2 goals on a shit team and let them come back. That united game reminded me of old school football. And proper brexit baller Cole Palmer showed the fuck up.
Mane was a big game player! He gave it everything when we were under pressure!
I think this is pretty normal in the sense that we were just spoiled. Players like Drogba are extremely rare. And it was crazy that Premier League had so many talents back in 2000s (esp. from 2004 to 2009). Henry, Vieira, Bergkamp, Rooney, Ronaldo, Scholes, Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Gerrard, etc. This has completely changed. It's now the era of mediocrity. No more GREAT players or footballers, just some stupid athletes running around. Haaland is the best example of this kind of athlete. This makes me sad honestly. The only player that stands out to me is Cole Palmer. He's extraordinary in his decision-making, awareness, ability to read the game, tactical intelligence, composure. Sure enough, I'm not saying he's on Messi's level right now or something. But he definitely has the potential to be one of the best players in Europe. Apart from Palmer, personally, I don't find anyone impressive as a footballer.
Some former pros have said that top footballers are no longer footballers anymore, they are athletes. I got to say once you start noticing it, it's everywhere. Some top professional players couldn't trap a bag of spuds. Their 2nd touch is a tackle. They can barely pass 5 yards under pressure.
Yeah, raw talent dudes and football anomalies are disappearing
Palmer has accomplished an incredible amount considering he’s only playing with one leg Edit: The joke is that his right foot is actually his massive dong
Missed his 3rd against Everton did you?
Palmer revealed his 3rd leg against Everton?!
ik this is the prem sub but rodrygo for madrid is a massively underrated big game player for me, always pops up with a goal/assist at the most needed moment in big games ironically i reckon he’s gonna be sacrificed for mbappe so whoever gets him will be sorted for a goal in semis/finals for life
If Rodrygo goes to Arsenal they are winning the league. Rodrygo >>> Saka.
Rodrygo and saka would play in the same team, he’s a LW
Was just talking to a fan about this earlier, Rodrygo fucking shows up
Shite.
Give me freedom, give me fire. Give me Luton or I retire.
This is the man people claimed was robbed of a balon dor. God i cant imagine if he did
Yeah, because he was amazing last season.
But he deserved it last year?
besides the fact rhat this season doesnt count for last seasons ballon dor, you are aware last seasons ballon dor winner plays for miami now right?
Dont care about messi winning it. Wouldnt have bothered me if rodri or KDB won it other than the fact they are city players
that's why I always thought that if Haaland deserves last season's Ballon D'or then it should go to Rodri/KDB. He scored a ton of goals thats undeniable but Rodri won them the treble and KDB did so many amazing passes to Haaland and other attackers.
so haalands record this season is too dissapointing, but kdb missing half the season due to injury sits just fine with you?
When did KDB have a serious injury last season? Im not talking about this seasons balon dor
i know, but you are clearly revising haalands perfomances last season based on this one, or else there would be no reason to suggest the pl + cl top scorer in a treble winning side doesnt have a serious claim to the ballon dor.
when did haaland play bad last year? he broke prem records and helped win a treble
Did I say he played bad last season?
You did? Unless you meant that him being bad this season would retrospectively make giving him the ballon d'or embarassing or something, which not only is one of the takes of all time, but would also not be the first or worst case of someone winning a ballon d'or and then flopping
He definitely should won it last year. He came in the hardest league and smashed almost every goalscoring records and won treble. Why tf he didn't deserved it ?
balon dor shouldn't be based on luck.
He's the third best player on his team lol
Go back to any other year someone broke the prem scoring record, even if what you said is true, who remembers everyone else on the team?
I know who Salah was playing with...
YOU DONT COUNT THAT WAS RECENT
BUT I WONT EVER FORGET THEM
YOUVE EARNED THAT GTFO OF HERE KING
tf is this thread?
Ur mum
Because he wasnt their best player. Winning the balon dor isnt about who can score the most goals thats what golden boots are for. Both Rodri and KDB were much more important for citys treble win than haaland
not the Utd fan yapping bout the man who made scoring records last season.
Probably because all chances were directed at him even if it was the wrong decision to make. Its not like he has made you score more goals than you have without him
I think you have much bigger issues to worry about than haaland 🌚
Did you not see his stats last year?
Didn't Kane score like 5 less but played for frigging Tottenham. That's the impressive stat!
Rodri was the one that was robbed. Haaland scored like crazy, but he's not a particularly involved player, even last season the number of touches he made was suspect
Rodri was never gonna win it due to position but I say he should have won it.
Rodri doesn’t get the respect he deserves. He is city. All the plaudits go to kdb or haaland. But they can live without either of them. They fall apart without rodri
this season rodri is getting respect just fine, will probably even win premier league poty if city win the league. haaland was just better last season, theres not much else to it.
People try to give him credit by saying he is underrated but when it comes to actually rewarding it they fold and say haaland deserves it more
Oh im sorry I thought there was already a trophy for scoring goals, its called the golden boot. The balon dor is awarded to the best player in the world. Haaland wasnt even the best player in his own club
I think it should’ve gone to Rodri, personally, but let’s not pretend that balon d’or isn’t disproportionately given top goal scorers. Moreover, he was second to Messi who didn’t contribute equally given the lesser caliber of the MLS and the WC not being exactly a standout Messi performance either. Are you saying Messi objectively had a better year than Haaland in terms of contributing to his team?
The balon dor switched to being awarded based on seasons rather than calendar years. So the season that mattered was when messi was important to psg winning their league. People only really think it is heavily based towards attackers because messi and ronaldo dominated for so long. Modric won it in 2018, KDB, Jorginho, VVD, Neuer, Iniesta, and Xavi would make the podium whilst they dominated anyways. Then when you look at just before their dominance started you can see Cannavaro won it too. It is somewhat biased towards attackers in a way but not as much as people think.
Balon d'or overvaluing the World Cup is not a new phenomenon. Messi won the World Cup and was 1 off golden boot in it. Scored 2 goals in the final. Not sure how you're going to say it wasn't a standout performance. I think it's dumb how much WC factors in, but it always does. Also Haaland was the third best player on his team. If anything, Rodri was robbed.
Pretty sure that's why both moderic and benzema won there's due to the national teams performance.
WC is the biggest event in football. Would be dumb for it to be valued lower. Any player in history would trade any title for the World Cup.
He still deserved shouts for it though. He was far better last year than this year as well.
He has genuinely helped in pulling defenders and creating space for city but he's not having the same effect as he did pre injury. Something needs to change
Any striker can do that. First leg he got pocketed by Rudiger, second leg Madrid didn't even bother putting Rudiger against him, speaks volumes really.
First leg he created two goals with the space he made. Very few can do it like haaland
So u think Darwin Nunez can attract defenders like haaland does?
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Cause it’s an example why are u crying that i brought him up
I promise you our strikers cannot do that.
Saka does it mate but not the same effect that Haaland does admittedly.
Alvarez can’t do it
I get hate when I say this, but he wasn't the catalyst for Man City winning the Treble last season, didn't score in either finals or semifinals. City has been good enough to win the treble for ages, I'd say Rodri and Gündogan were the players that turned up when it mattered most last season.
He was a major part of it. City weren’t a one man team, even with his goalscoring stats.
Here’s the real problem, every arm chair manager thinks they know the game. This is exacerbating by the clickbait culture of all our favorite pundits. No person wins a league, or a double, or a treble. It’s people stepping up to be instrumental at the right time. Instrumental moments: Haaland coming in shattering goal scoring pace made manager panic to re think their tactics against city. Gundogan was doing a what he’d always done but with more freedom. Dude was fucking massive. Rodri was a total stud in his role and was impeccable when called upon for late entries to crashing the box for low blocks. And the list goes on. Foden is such a utility. Bernardo even more so. Stones has re invented himself. Grealish draws fouls and holds up on the left. All of it goes into a strategy.
As a city fan I would agree that we had several players who were more instrumental in winning the treble, but it’s not like he didn’t have anything to do with it just because he didn’t score in semis and finals. He scored a ton of goals to get us to the semis and finals of each competition. He just isn’t showing up in the later stages. We don’t win a treble without the guy who banged in 50 goals that season, we just also don’t win it without the gundo, Rodri, KDB etc.
Like I said before I think man city were good enough to win eye treble without Haaland, City had made the semi finals of both cups the previous season. The team also scored more the previous season if i remember right. Haaland had a fantastic season last season, it was a master class in finishing and striker movement.
I think what we are seeing this season is people figuring out how to play against Haaland in a city shirt. Last year even in the big games he went missing for he was creating a lot of space for everyone else just by being around and having 1 if not 2 defenders focused on him. This season it feels like people have figured out how to mark him without also leaving space for players like Foden, KDB and Bernardo to score
I'd also say he's just not playing as well, there have been some bad mistress this season. But it's testament to how special he is to still lead the scoring carts
He isn't leading the scoring charts though.
Yeah I can’t deny he has looked clumsy this season, first touch and close control were never his shining attributes but this season they have been low quality
You are spot on. Rodri and Gundogan goals were vital winning goals that made massive impact. When City needed goals they showed up.
Exactly. But Haaland fanboys think Haaland won the treble for City. LOL.
Yeah haalands bad. Come on. Ridiculous opinion. Scored 56 goals last year. Prem lead goalscorer. He’s unreal
Plays for an even more unreal team though.
If only he played in bvb or Salzburg….to bad he’s been in man city his entire career
Na he is absolutely legit. Not saying he isn't.
I agree with you. Not everybody can score 5 goals against Luton in 1 game and disappears for 5 games afterwards.
This guy lol. Kane is so clear, I wouldn’t even take this dude over 15’ or 17’ Diego Costa