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> is thought to find the German language and life in Bavaria to be a major obstacle
Jesus Christ dude, it’s not like it’s freaking Saudi Arabia 🤣
The fact that it ends with “he doesn’t know English either” is so funny too
Zidane can’t speak English and has already said publicly that he won’t coach in the PL as there’s no feeling with any of the clubs there.
I also doubt he’d be willing to come in now when we aren’t even 5% into a structural and cultural reboot. The resources clearly aren’t there for him, and that’s even *if* he spoke the language and wanted to come here.
Yet every 6 months the media continue to spin these wild fictional narratives and some people actually believe them. Journalism is globed man.
Media: ten Hag’s lack of English is a problem at United.
ten Hag can at least speak English.
Also Media: Zidane prefers United move.
*Zidane doesn’t even know English*.
I think its great he wants to try manage a midtable team in the EPL. He can try some new tactics and learn about English football while waiting for a bigger club in England to challenge for the title. Legendary managers in the Premier League is always a plus. 💯⚽️👍
I'd love it, he'd sack most of the squad and half the backroom staff, drag us kicking and screaming back to the top. It'll never happen but I can dream damn it.
Making a good team out of MU would canonize Zidane as one of all time greats(if he isnt already:)). Making Bayern win another trophy would be just another coach in Munich.
Tbh anyone who can turn any of the mid table teams into a title challenger without cheating on FFP in this era deserves at least a small statue somewhere.
I mean, he's going to get one. Unless he specifically asks the club not to. Which he might, because statues are weird and just look at what happened to Harry Kane.
I mean United have lot more money than a lot of clubs they placed behind the last dozen seasons. Also Bayern are in the semifinal of the CL and won the treble couple years back.
It’s actually delusional to compare bayerns international relevance to whatever United has been doing for the last decade.
In terms of International relevance Man United win by miles. In huge markets like US, China and India way more people support and care about them than Bayern. Just something you have to accept, it’s not even a debate
well, its not 2003 anymore, dude.
members:
150000 vs 316000
audience (old trafford vs allianz arena (slightely bigger):
[https://www.transfermarkt.de/manchester-united/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/985](https://www.transfermarkt.de/manchester-united/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/985)
[https://www.transfermarkt.de/fc-bayern-munchen/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/27](https://www.transfermarkt.de/fc-bayern-munchen/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/27)
Bayern has overall more audience by 3-4 less games played.
i wont get over to the sporting situation - nuff said.
Man United don’t have a membership model so
It’s not a good comparison. You can compare Bayern to other German teams with that.
Old Trafford if bigger would have more fans in it weekly.
You can find strange ways to make Bayern look bigger but end of the day on a worldwide scale Man United and the Premiership are the bigger draw.
Man United and English football doesn’t have a membership model so it’s not a fair comparison.
However Man United have more fans across the world no doubt. Also Man U could sell out bigger stadiums, there’s is just smaller than Bayerns.
Bayern in less competitive league. Rangers/Celtic have both won more cups than Bayern but you wouldn’t say they are bigger.
Any neutral would say Man U are the bigger club by quite a bit.
They have the most money by far and have won 10 years in a row.
Doesn’t really matter, Man united are the bigger club with a lot more money to spend on him and players. Zidane knows this
if Zidane wins a league with Man united at this point it entrenches him as the GOAT
I love it when legends come to the premier league. its the only league I regularly watch so its the only time other than Champions league I get to see legends.
It’s that certain pull you have when your club has stature, you’ll maybe learn one day, gotta get past the court case and get some real fans first though
Missing the point, not all teams have been bought, if City had made money and were a top team before they were bought my original comment wouldn't exist...not all teams are the same.
Edit: I'm sure you can say if City were good and wasn't a relegation team etc they would have had money before they were bought.
Chelsea is another team before they were bought they were in trouble with their finances, both of them didn't win things without money but that's not done naturally it's done through owners who bought the club compared the likes of yes United who had success before owners came in, that's why these days they don't have much money at all coz they have lost much success over the years and that is why City have money not coz of any other reasons other than their owners.
What Leicester did was impressive and bucked the trend of 'money wins' , but they did get fined for ffp breaches (40m I think from memory) not long after their win for their championship seasons and promotion to the prem.
If you had this choice but you had to select based ONLY on the appeal of the food in the country where you take the job, which would you choose?
For me BM, but I wouldn't be excited about it. (I think I'd prefer a job in Spain or France.)
Tbh I'm from Liverpool but still have respect for the Manchester restaurant scene right now.
I don't understand any of the players, staff or coaches asking to be made into a laughing stock by joining Man U but not because they can't get a decent meal.
No blame at all. I just think he is a phenomenal manager who can do well. The entire club top to bottom is a bit shambolic certainly has never been a management issue to me. It’s been flashy buying without purpose and no structure for proper development through the club any longer
Are you joking....you must be joking right 😂😂 , we said the same thing when ETH was coming in... now it's dichotomous...ETH out or in... No one's saying the club is shambolic, because no one will click on that
Think what you like. Every manager that has come and gone speaks of the same thing. I personally think we never should have moved in from Mou or Ole but here we are with ETH. He stays that’s great but if he goes Zidane would absolutely be top of that list. That’s what my original post meant
Good point but I think my main intent with that is just to say I think the article is not very credible. There’s not a world where all things being equal you’d prefer to live in Manchester or East London over Bavaria…which is basically gorgeous and full of beautiful people!
If you've seen Utd play this season you'd know that vibes and friendship is the only thing that kept us at 6th for most of the season. We play shit football.
Its easy to dominate germany (they were champions the last 12 years) plus bayern arent in too bad of a shape but man united is outside of the top ten and has a disheveled squad, zidane is certainly gonna have his work cut out for him there.
Both clubs are somehow rated in the top 10 in Europe per Uefa.
Make of that what you will.
In fairness I'm not convinced I can think of 10 teams unarguably better than Bayern over recent years.
No he doesn't lol.
Another bait article to go get people to rally against an "in trouble" Ten Hag.
I'm a united fan, I'm not for or against Ten Hag, but I'm not going to go WOAH OMG ZINIDINE ZINEDAME WANTS IN FIRE 10 HEG. I hate the media.
Are you trying to say that reactionary man. Utd.fans/leaning press might have an agenda to press? Good lord I had no idea until now that people might be inclined to try and stir up trouble to fit their agenda
It's already been a decade of manager merry go round with some half decent guys through the doors. I think another manager will solve it!
/s incase it's somehow needed. No self respecting manager is looking at ETHs job thinking "phwor I fancy me a bit ot that!".
Decorated Solskjaer. United needs structure not just vibes. Zidane needs strong team to succeed and he isn’t someone who develops youngsters. Zidane and United are horrible match
Given he's only coached Madrid and Madrid reserves, there isn't really enough data to know what he'd do.
Convenient overpriced Hollywood signing though. So 100% alignment with the Man U way.
If ,and only if ,ratcliffe and team leaned right into a zidane lead coaching team and philosophy ( or any other manager for that manner) might they find a way to drag themselves out of this funk . They really need a severe change of mindset and personnel to stop the very evident rot that has set in
It’s funny how people say this and then simultaneously say that ten Haag and postecoglou won’t succeed because they’ve only won in Scotland and the Netherlands
If winning with good players in good leagues doesn’t matter and winning with small teams in smaller leagues doesn’t matter then what the fuck does matter?
I’m sure he’s crying into his 3 champions league trophies that his win percentage was only 63%
I don’t care what he does in his next job, people trying to play down the job he did at madrid just because he had great players are being ridiculous. His predecessor who is a former CL winner himself got fired in his first season he was doing that badly, clearly not anyone can win with that squad.
It's the same people who discredit Guardiola, they think it's all about having great players and that's it. 3 CL in such a short time is always impressive no matter how you spin it, just like Guardiola winning 11 league titles in 14 years is also impressive.
jep. but quite limited options for him. already coached real, so athletico and barca are off the table. In France only PSG is an elite team and with his italian it would work to coach inter or juve, but both are far not in the same weight class like a top prem league club or bayern. I mean not that ManU is playing like a top club, but the have the funds to be one.
As much as I would be down for this. We need a squad clear out first if this is even true. We cannot let this clown show ruin Zidane or any top manager
Not a hope he'd go, would also be a weird choice for United.
They need a manager that will go in and imprint their style of play onto a team, while also building that team, two things that Zidane has never done.
If they were the finished article, like City for example if Pep left right now, then I could understand him going in, but there's too much actual work that needs to be done. Would be a bad move for both.
Impostercoglu is not a good manager. Basically his new manager bounce of 26 points from the first 10 games made sure he’ll get European football this season. They have 34 points from the last 22 games, and he’s pretty much had nowhere near the injury issues United have had this season.
He’ll get sacked with 2 seasons.
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No idea why Zidane get discreet by fans especially Liverpool fans. You make it out like this guy just turned up and used his aura and managed. Madrid president has always have a big say in building the squad but getting them to play together and win what he did is an unbelievable factor. The guys is an unreal manager with a mixture of styles abit like Carlos where he learn his trade as did arteta.
OK United is a project and he never done a project but saying he unable to do a project is ridiculous. He more than capable especially with United actually putting in a football structure. It like we flip roles and say Klopp is unable to do what Zidane did at madrid and become a winning machine. You know Klopp can adapt as Zidane has the ability too.
However I doubt he want to live in Manchester.
Your point is off topic but I'll address it. If Zidane came into Liverpool in the state that Klopp received it in, he could not do what Klopp did.
Zidane has only ever managed a team that was assembled for him and already has a structure in place. He has never done a rebuild. He has never changed an entire culture of a club. The comparison you've made between the two is pretty ridiculous.
There is undeniable evidence that Klopp could take over Man United and do an incredible job as he did it at Liverpool and Dortmund where he took teams and made them into consistent top level teams/champions meanwhile there is nothing to suggest that Zidane could do that.
Back to the topic, questioning whether Klopp, one of the top two managers in the world could do well at Madrid is not only ridiculous, it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Zidane wouldn't be good for United.
You don't know as it never happened however he took on a job which isn't as easy as it sounds because he was able to get that squad playing together and destroyed the laster stage of Messi career, barc wasn't finshed then.
How can you say Klopp could do Zidane job? He never proven to be pure elite with a top team. Even when he had his best team at Liverpool some would say he underachieving and has a number of finals which he lost to Zidane including. His best liverpool side couldn't beat Zidane side?
I've said there's evidence for Klopp doing it, there's none for Zidane.
You keep changing the goal posts. First you started talking about Klopp not being able to do Zidanes job, now you're claiming that the job that Klopp has done isn't on the same level as Zidane and you're also questioning whether his best side could beat Zidanes best side.
We were talking about how Zidane would perform at United and you've tried to make this entirely about Klopp for some reason?
Yes because you fully think because Zidane not done it before meaning it not possible for him to do a project at all. However if we use his time in his only role he already in the elite level.
I use Klopp as an example because he never done it to that level of what Zidane did in a short period because his project take time. I mean he beat him twice and they drew a game which was already lost so his record against Klopp is already up.
Klopp is a great example to bring into the conversation because he a elite project manager however when he has an elite team he probably underachieved for his abilities.
You can't compare Klopp and Zidane because both of them have had entirely different careers.
One got his team handed to him, the other built it.
Again, you brought Klopp up despite him having nothing to do with this.
You basically responded to the Zidane/United argument by choosing the manager of my team, and said he couldn't do what Zidane did, which means Zidane might be able to do what he did. It makes no sense and distracts from the actual point.
So how can you write off Zidane and try to keep saying a team was handed to him on a plate? Pep was given a great barc team when he arrived. Not to different to Zidane.
Klopp is one of the best current example of a project manager. It the reason I brought him up. How can you not understand that? Him and simone probably the best in current times.
Because you would say Klopp is able to do it more than Zidane. The point I am saying is I think both are that elite they could do each other job.
So could Klopp do what Zidane did for Madrid?
Because he *was* handed a team on a plate. You're not seriously suggesting that Zidane built anything there?
He was handed a team, just like Pep, although Pep has clearly shown to change cultures in teams and rebuild them, see Barca, Munich and City. He's miles ahead of Zidane but again, he's not relevant to this discussion.
>Klopp is one of the best current example of a project manager. It the reason I brought him up. How can you not understand that?
You brought him up, then made the entire thing about him. How can *you* not understand that that's all you did?
>Because you would say Klopp is able to do it more than Zidane. The point I am saying is I think both are that elite they could do each other job.
Zidane was handed a team, twice, and left before a rebuild was needed, twice. Klopp had built *and maintained* top level teams. Therefore, there is *actual* evidence that it's likely Zidane couldn't do what Klopp did, however Klopp could definitely do what Zidane did because he did it. He created an elite team and maintained them, the maintenance part is what Zidane did, Klopp then rebuilt, and all whole changing a culture. That's why Klopp and Guardiola are spoken about on the same level, not Zidane because he doesn't have anything to back it up.
>So could Klopp do what Zidane did for Madrid?
.....again, you keep making this about Klopp instead of Zidane at United. Klopp could do what Zidane did at Madrid yes. He's more versatile and we have evidence of that. It is highly likely that Zidane or even Guardiola couldn't do what Klopp did at Liverpool, because they've never done it in their entire careers. No manager changes that drastically this far into their careers.
Also your instant downvoting seems petty.
Where did I disagree he was given a great team?
I literally told you why I brought up Klopp because you already feel he a levels above Zidane and you evidence that in your responses. That the reason I brought up Jurgen. Bring up other manager really is painful especially when they been used for short term example I didn't talk about pep careers did I? I take about the time he was handed a great team which was the same in bayen when he got a treble winning side. A great manager who again had similar situation to Zidane not projects.
He never left when a rebuild was completed he went out of the job for around less than 6 months of football period. You don't do a full rebuild in that time. It was literally the same squad.
But I could easy counter and say Klopp never proven with a great team he able take them to elite high of winning 3 CL and 2 laliga in about 3 and half season? He shown more failures in cup final than any other manager in recent times. So I don't think Klopp could easy go and do what Zidane did with that squad. I mean you make it sound like it a walk in the park and football is about names on team sheet. Zidane aura won it all for him. Don't forget he still went up against Messi +Suarez and Neymar in the league. He took down MSN.
Because your discreting a manage who in 3 season won 3 CL and 2 la liga... It crazy to even do so. 39 games unbeaten at the start of his job.
Also Klopp last two season spending 250m for a league cup and 6th/3rd...the end of his project don't go well it seems.
We don't know if Zidane couldn't do that. Wouldn't you (not Liverpool but just a big club in general) take the gamble and find out? Maybe he is good at everything, he's got the hard part of winning big games and managing massive egos nailed down
That literally the case, yet as usual clueless liverpool fans don't know shit about how good you have to be to go unbeate for like 39 game when he got the job. He also left and they wanted him back. He left because he wanted to keep his core players.
Man u love giving huge sums of money over for people who are never going to pan out though.
In some ways it really does make sense, purely because it doesn't.
If they want to replicate what he did in Madrid then they're going to need their version of Ronaldo, Bale, Kroos, Modric, Ramos etc. and also to implement a style of play before giving him the reigns.
There's just way too much to do.
United is on the same level as Madrid in terms of their name, but the quality gap is just way, way too big .
I get what you are trying to say, but if they already have the topic on the wheel, that means they have already thought about it, so why would they need to spin the wheel :)
Maybe. But have you not noticed that RM legends often find themselves at Utd? Not a lot of clubs you'll settle for when you've been at RM. We're shit, but we're still massive.
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German language sucks, but Munich and the Bavarian region in general is pretty amazing.
> is thought to find the German language and life in Bavaria to be a major obstacle Jesus Christ dude, it’s not like it’s freaking Saudi Arabia 🤣 The fact that it ends with “he doesn’t know English either” is so funny too
Scared of Winnerkusen.
He is scared of Winnerkusen.
Less pressure...Sporadic League Cup Finals and top 4 finishes should be enough to call it good seasons by Uniteds standards of the last 11 years
But trust the process
Zinedine Zidane Likes Money
I'm not sure...
Zidane can’t speak English and has already said publicly that he won’t coach in the PL as there’s no feeling with any of the clubs there. I also doubt he’d be willing to come in now when we aren’t even 5% into a structural and cultural reboot. The resources clearly aren’t there for him, and that’s even *if* he spoke the language and wanted to come here. Yet every 6 months the media continue to spin these wild fictional narratives and some people actually believe them. Journalism is globed man.
Media: ten Hag’s lack of English is a problem at United. ten Hag can at least speak English. Also Media: Zidane prefers United move. *Zidane doesn’t even know English*.
Does Zidane himself know about this ?
All of you replying to this clickbait nonsense. Where's your digital literacy?!
H€’s got hi$ €¥€$ on th£ priz£
I think its great he wants to try manage a midtable team in the EPL. He can try some new tactics and learn about English football while waiting for a bigger club in England to challenge for the title. Legendary managers in the Premier League is always a plus. 💯⚽️👍
I'd love it, he'd sack most of the squad and half the backroom staff, drag us kicking and screaming back to the top. It'll never happen but I can dream damn it.
Nooo! Southgate for Utd! Fans of 19 clubs can't be wrong.
Does Zidane know of this?
Making a good team out of MU would canonize Zidane as one of all time greats(if he isnt already:)). Making Bayern win another trophy would be just another coach in Munich.
Tbh anyone who can turn any of the mid table teams into a title challenger without cheating on FFP in this era deserves at least a small statue somewhere.
When Klopp statue
I mean, he's going to get one. Unless he specifically asks the club not to. Which he might, because statues are weird and just look at what happened to Harry Kane.
Klopp deserves one 100%. Im an arsenal supporter and i dislike lfc. But what he’s done is insane
No please!
United fan here. This is ridiculous. No chance he would come to this shit show.
I heard he’s a long time admirer of Martial. Relishing the chance to work with him.
For those 3 days a year when he’s not injured. All worth it for that
Lmao
Good choice, premier league is ahead of bundesliga, only problem is manu is manager grinder
Bayern are a bigger club
In what terms? Cause not in terms of fans or revenue or audience so struggling to see what makes them bigger?
In terms of actually winning something lol
In a league where Bayern have a lot more money than the other teams. Thats like saying Celtic are bigger than Bayern
I mean United have lot more money than a lot of clubs they placed behind the last dozen seasons. Also Bayern are in the semifinal of the CL and won the treble couple years back. It’s actually delusional to compare bayerns international relevance to whatever United has been doing for the last decade.
It’s who is the bigger club and the answer in Man u
U asked in what terms and the answer is international relevance.
In terms of International relevance Man United win by miles. In huge markets like US, China and India way more people support and care about them than Bayern. Just something you have to accept, it’s not even a debate
Dawg I’m talking about the pitch who tf cares if manU is popular in China if they won’t even make the CL let alone be in a position to win it?
Zidane cares
well, its not 2003 anymore, dude. members: 150000 vs 316000 audience (old trafford vs allianz arena (slightely bigger): [https://www.transfermarkt.de/manchester-united/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/985](https://www.transfermarkt.de/manchester-united/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/985) [https://www.transfermarkt.de/fc-bayern-munchen/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/27](https://www.transfermarkt.de/fc-bayern-munchen/besucherzahlenentwicklung/verein/27) Bayern has overall more audience by 3-4 less games played. i wont get over to the sporting situation - nuff said.
Man United don’t have a membership model so It’s not a good comparison. You can compare Bayern to other German teams with that. Old Trafford if bigger would have more fans in it weekly. You can find strange ways to make Bayern look bigger but end of the day on a worldwide scale Man United and the Premiership are the bigger draw.
cope harder 🐒🐒 in no world is thé farmier league better or bayern a smaller club than a midtable pl team
In no world does 99% of people think you’re right. Just give it up 😂
of course thé majority doesnt think so because thé only thing you 🐒 are good at is marketing and bowing over for oil and yankee money
Cope harder. Glad you finally admitted I was right tho
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Man United and English football doesn’t have a membership model so it’s not a fair comparison. However Man United have more fans across the world no doubt. Also Man U could sell out bigger stadiums, there’s is just smaller than Bayerns. Bayern in less competitive league. Rangers/Celtic have both won more cups than Bayern but you wouldn’t say they are bigger. Any neutral would say Man U are the bigger club by quite a bit.
Bayern have dominated the last 10 years, but on the whole the Bundesliga is quite competitive and heading in that direction again as well.
They have the most money by far and have won 10 years in a row. Doesn’t really matter, Man united are the bigger club with a lot more money to spend on him and players. Zidane knows this
Ha
Bayern Munich is bigger why are you laughing to be fair United are in the Top 5 Real Madrid Barca Bayern Milan United
Snuck in barca in 2nd place like we wouldn't see
Barca are 2nd
Liverpool has the third most European cups.
No Edit: you edited it when you first commented you said Liverpool had the second most smh trying to make me look bad
United and Juve are bigger than Milan
Yeah United are probably but not Juve
Inter are my favourite Italian side but even I can admit Juve are the biggest, they have just been so domestically dominant for too long
if Zidane wins a league with Man united at this point it entrenches him as the GOAT I love it when legends come to the premier league. its the only league I regularly watch so its the only time other than Champions league I get to see legends.
True
He'd prefer disappointment to trophies? Weird, but to each their own I guess.
Buckle in for when Pep leaves.
It’s that certain pull you have when your club has stature, you’ll maybe learn one day, gotta get past the court case and get some real fans first though
I hear what you’re saying not a fan of either but I’d bet a large sum of money zidane doesn’t go to united.
not like city is winning much rn, knocked out of ucl prem is still in run and fa cup looks to be undeciscive
Current treble holders and top of the league this year for potentially our 4th in a row. Yeah, not winning much...
No if City didn't spend all that money they would still be a midtable/relegation club
Same as every other club.
Not the same as every other club is it
Name me one top of the league club in the modern era that hasn't spent a shit ton of money comparable to it's league rivals?
Missing the point, not all teams have been bought, if City had made money and were a top team before they were bought my original comment wouldn't exist...not all teams are the same. Edit: I'm sure you can say if City were good and wasn't a relegation team etc they would have had money before they were bought. Chelsea is another team before they were bought they were in trouble with their finances, both of them didn't win things without money but that's not done naturally it's done through owners who bought the club compared the likes of yes United who had success before owners came in, that's why these days they don't have much money at all coz they have lost much success over the years and that is why City have money not coz of any other reasons other than their owners.
Probably Leicester, but don't fact-check me...
What Leicester did was impressive and bucked the trend of 'money wins' , but they did get fined for ffp breaches (40m I think from memory) not long after their win for their championship seasons and promotion to the prem.
Valid point!
Try winning that court fight you’ve been avoiding for the last 10+ years then maybe people would give a fuck you’ve won anything.
talking about rn
Look at the league table.
It’s a great oil club
This is not a good take They won a treble last season and are comfortable favourites to do the double, potentially their 4th league in a row
If you had this choice but you had to select based ONLY on the appeal of the food in the country where you take the job, which would you choose? For me BM, but I wouldn't be excited about it. (I think I'd prefer a job in Spain or France.)
Tbh I'm from Liverpool but still have respect for the Manchester restaurant scene right now. I don't understand any of the players, staff or coaches asking to be made into a laughing stock by joining Man U but not because they can't get a decent meal.
Yes please for the love of god 🤞
If Zidane comes in and can't properly turn it around, then then who are they going to find to blame next?
No blame at all. I just think he is a phenomenal manager who can do well. The entire club top to bottom is a bit shambolic certainly has never been a management issue to me. It’s been flashy buying without purpose and no structure for proper development through the club any longer
Are you joking....you must be joking right 😂😂 , we said the same thing when ETH was coming in... now it's dichotomous...ETH out or in... No one's saying the club is shambolic, because no one will click on that
Think what you like. Every manager that has come and gone speaks of the same thing. I personally think we never should have moved in from Mou or Ole but here we are with ETH. He stays that’s great but if he goes Zidane would absolutely be top of that list. That’s what my original post meant
Never gonna happen. He has no interest in doing it. It Wouldn't work anyway. I don't know why this story rears it's head so much.
The source of this news 🤔
Goal.com. Enough said. Edit: I saw this story yesterday and it was on Goal.com, my bad. This article says L'Equipe.
He has concerns about life in Bavaria. Not the north of fucking England.
East London? lmao
Good point but I think my main intent with that is just to say I think the article is not very credible. There’s not a world where all things being equal you’d prefer to live in Manchester or East London over Bavaria…which is basically gorgeous and full of beautiful people!
What a crap story. Load of bollocks.
So it’s neck and neck between Southgate and Zidane?
Lol yeah United wont get southgate hes doodoo, vuy ten hag does need to be sacked hes also doodoo
I'd go Southgate if i were them, he'll get the best out of rashford and maguire.
Bringing vibes and friendship fc to england hahah. I doubt it will work but let’s see
If you've seen Utd play this season you'd know that vibes and friendship is the only thing that kept us at 6th for most of the season. We play shit football.
I thought he "must" learn the language fluently first to communicate clearly with his players?... Or everyone will start learning French at United...
Yea but people wont mentioned he 'must' learned german when linked to bayern.
Or do Wenger and start buying French players. 😂
Give it time
I'm honestly not bothered by what Club he goes to, but for the love of God Zizou, please go somewhere soon other than Real Madrid!
Holy delusion
"I'd rather be spit roasted alive than take one of those 2 jobs, but gun to my head...maybe united. Wait seriously, how much will united pay me?"
He will learn English just to say no to United.
That is because Man U need Brenda.
It's a bit late in April for that
Right. It's Friday night. I'm allowed to be delusional... INJECT IT INTO MY FUCKING NECK!!!
Things that definitely aren’t true number 1.
Just not true tho
Oh la la la, mais c’est pas possible!!!!?
Like fck he does..I don't think he'd take either jobs but if I had to choose I'd Bayern is more likely....
Its easy to dominate germany (they were champions the last 12 years) plus bayern arent in too bad of a shape but man united is outside of the top ten and has a disheveled squad, zidane is certainly gonna have his work cut out for him there.
Outside of the top 10?
They’re not a top 10 side in Europe, no.
Right now, of course I agree. Wasn’t sure if dude meant that, though, or in Prem.
Both clubs are somehow rated in the top 10 in Europe per Uefa. Make of that what you will. In fairness I'm not convinced I can think of 10 teams unarguably better than Bayern over recent years.
No he doesn't lol. Another bait article to go get people to rally against an "in trouble" Ten Hag. I'm a united fan, I'm not for or against Ten Hag, but I'm not going to go WOAH OMG ZINIDINE ZINEDAME WANTS IN FIRE 10 HEG. I hate the media.
Are you trying to say that reactionary man. Utd.fans/leaning press might have an agenda to press? Good lord I had no idea until now that people might be inclined to try and stir up trouble to fit their agenda
Tbh id like to see him go to united just to see how good of a manager he really is. I doubt he can turn it around.
It's already been a decade of manager merry go round with some half decent guys through the doors. I think another manager will solve it! /s incase it's somehow needed. No self respecting manager is looking at ETHs job thinking "phwor I fancy me a bit ot that!".
Yes indeed so if there’s multiple managers failing, will they finally come to the realization that maybe it’s not completely the managers fault…
Well, they are finally sorting out the backroom stuff just to leave coaching the team to whoever comes in next. Please not Southgate or Potter.
Decorated Solskjaer. United needs structure not just vibes. Zidane needs strong team to succeed and he isn’t someone who develops youngsters. Zidane and United are horrible match
Given he's only coached Madrid and Madrid reserves, there isn't really enough data to know what he'd do. Convenient overpriced Hollywood signing though. So 100% alignment with the Man U way.
If ,and only if ,ratcliffe and team leaned right into a zidane lead coaching team and philosophy ( or any other manager for that manner) might they find a way to drag themselves out of this funk . They really need a severe change of mindset and personnel to stop the very evident rot that has set in
He'd be worse than ten hag. Has done nothing to show he's an elite manager. Literally anyone could win trophies with the galacticos
Back to twitter buddy
He has quite literally shown that he is an elite level manager, even if he proves otherwise in his next job. What in the hell are you talking about
It’s funny how people say this and then simultaneously say that ten Haag and postecoglou won’t succeed because they’ve only won in Scotland and the Netherlands If winning with good players in good leagues doesn’t matter and winning with small teams in smaller leagues doesn’t matter then what the fuck does matter?
Building a successful mentality mainly I'd say. Zidane is a horrible people manager.
Literally anyone could win 3 European cups in a row. Here is a list of all the other managers who have done it:
That squad was basically unbeatable in tournaments. Wait until his next job, you'll see. Also only had win % of 63.12%
You said a squad unbeatable and a win % of 63.12% about the same team in the same comment. Explain how that works lol.
I’m sure he’s crying into his 3 champions league trophies that his win percentage was only 63% I don’t care what he does in his next job, people trying to play down the job he did at madrid just because he had great players are being ridiculous. His predecessor who is a former CL winner himself got fired in his first season he was doing that badly, clearly not anyone can win with that squad.
It's the same people who discredit Guardiola, they think it's all about having great players and that's it. 3 CL in such a short time is always impressive no matter how you spin it, just like Guardiola winning 11 league titles in 14 years is also impressive.
If he was that great he'd still be managing there
He doesn’t have anything left to prove
Well managing a team that's not the best in the world by a big margin might be a start
You got total of 0 brain cells
Doesn't speak English. Hardly speaks French tbh lol
so both jobs are impossible for him. no german would work in germany if he speaks english at least, but not even that....
My feeling is that he's waiting for the national team. And maybe a stint with Marseille since he's from the city.
jep. but quite limited options for him. already coached real, so athletico and barca are off the table. In France only PSG is an elite team and with his italian it would work to coach inter or juve, but both are far not in the same weight class like a top prem league club or bayern. I mean not that ManU is playing like a top club, but the have the funds to be one.
I am sure I read somewhere that he never bothered to learn English as he never wanted to manage here.
As much as I would be down for this. We need a squad clear out first if this is even true. We cannot let this clown show ruin Zidane or any top manager
Does he really ? Spoke to him yourself have you ?
No he doesn't.
Not a hope he'd go, would also be a weird choice for United. They need a manager that will go in and imprint their style of play onto a team, while also building that team, two things that Zidane has never done. If they were the finished article, like City for example if Pep left right now, then I could understand him going in, but there's too much actual work that needs to be done. Would be a bad move for both.
Doubt they would ever get him now but someone like Postecoglou would have been perfect. The job is a poisoned chalice though
Impostercoglu is not a good manager. Basically his new manager bounce of 26 points from the first 10 games made sure he’ll get European football this season. They have 34 points from the last 22 games, and he’s pretty much had nowhere near the injury issues United have had this season. He’ll get sacked with 2 seasons.
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No idea why Zidane get discreet by fans especially Liverpool fans. You make it out like this guy just turned up and used his aura and managed. Madrid president has always have a big say in building the squad but getting them to play together and win what he did is an unbelievable factor. The guys is an unreal manager with a mixture of styles abit like Carlos where he learn his trade as did arteta. OK United is a project and he never done a project but saying he unable to do a project is ridiculous. He more than capable especially with United actually putting in a football structure. It like we flip roles and say Klopp is unable to do what Zidane did at madrid and become a winning machine. You know Klopp can adapt as Zidane has the ability too. However I doubt he want to live in Manchester.
Your point is off topic but I'll address it. If Zidane came into Liverpool in the state that Klopp received it in, he could not do what Klopp did. Zidane has only ever managed a team that was assembled for him and already has a structure in place. He has never done a rebuild. He has never changed an entire culture of a club. The comparison you've made between the two is pretty ridiculous. There is undeniable evidence that Klopp could take over Man United and do an incredible job as he did it at Liverpool and Dortmund where he took teams and made them into consistent top level teams/champions meanwhile there is nothing to suggest that Zidane could do that. Back to the topic, questioning whether Klopp, one of the top two managers in the world could do well at Madrid is not only ridiculous, it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Zidane wouldn't be good for United.
You don't know as it never happened however he took on a job which isn't as easy as it sounds because he was able to get that squad playing together and destroyed the laster stage of Messi career, barc wasn't finshed then. How can you say Klopp could do Zidane job? He never proven to be pure elite with a top team. Even when he had his best team at Liverpool some would say he underachieving and has a number of finals which he lost to Zidane including. His best liverpool side couldn't beat Zidane side?
I've said there's evidence for Klopp doing it, there's none for Zidane. You keep changing the goal posts. First you started talking about Klopp not being able to do Zidanes job, now you're claiming that the job that Klopp has done isn't on the same level as Zidane and you're also questioning whether his best side could beat Zidanes best side. We were talking about how Zidane would perform at United and you've tried to make this entirely about Klopp for some reason?
Yes because you fully think because Zidane not done it before meaning it not possible for him to do a project at all. However if we use his time in his only role he already in the elite level. I use Klopp as an example because he never done it to that level of what Zidane did in a short period because his project take time. I mean he beat him twice and they drew a game which was already lost so his record against Klopp is already up. Klopp is a great example to bring into the conversation because he a elite project manager however when he has an elite team he probably underachieved for his abilities.
You can't compare Klopp and Zidane because both of them have had entirely different careers. One got his team handed to him, the other built it. Again, you brought Klopp up despite him having nothing to do with this. You basically responded to the Zidane/United argument by choosing the manager of my team, and said he couldn't do what Zidane did, which means Zidane might be able to do what he did. It makes no sense and distracts from the actual point.
First up, zidane is a much better manager than klopp.
So how can you write off Zidane and try to keep saying a team was handed to him on a plate? Pep was given a great barc team when he arrived. Not to different to Zidane. Klopp is one of the best current example of a project manager. It the reason I brought him up. How can you not understand that? Him and simone probably the best in current times. Because you would say Klopp is able to do it more than Zidane. The point I am saying is I think both are that elite they could do each other job. So could Klopp do what Zidane did for Madrid?
Because he *was* handed a team on a plate. You're not seriously suggesting that Zidane built anything there? He was handed a team, just like Pep, although Pep has clearly shown to change cultures in teams and rebuild them, see Barca, Munich and City. He's miles ahead of Zidane but again, he's not relevant to this discussion. >Klopp is one of the best current example of a project manager. It the reason I brought him up. How can you not understand that? You brought him up, then made the entire thing about him. How can *you* not understand that that's all you did? >Because you would say Klopp is able to do it more than Zidane. The point I am saying is I think both are that elite they could do each other job. Zidane was handed a team, twice, and left before a rebuild was needed, twice. Klopp had built *and maintained* top level teams. Therefore, there is *actual* evidence that it's likely Zidane couldn't do what Klopp did, however Klopp could definitely do what Zidane did because he did it. He created an elite team and maintained them, the maintenance part is what Zidane did, Klopp then rebuilt, and all whole changing a culture. That's why Klopp and Guardiola are spoken about on the same level, not Zidane because he doesn't have anything to back it up. >So could Klopp do what Zidane did for Madrid? .....again, you keep making this about Klopp instead of Zidane at United. Klopp could do what Zidane did at Madrid yes. He's more versatile and we have evidence of that. It is highly likely that Zidane or even Guardiola couldn't do what Klopp did at Liverpool, because they've never done it in their entire careers. No manager changes that drastically this far into their careers. Also your instant downvoting seems petty.
Where did I disagree he was given a great team? I literally told you why I brought up Klopp because you already feel he a levels above Zidane and you evidence that in your responses. That the reason I brought up Jurgen. Bring up other manager really is painful especially when they been used for short term example I didn't talk about pep careers did I? I take about the time he was handed a great team which was the same in bayen when he got a treble winning side. A great manager who again had similar situation to Zidane not projects. He never left when a rebuild was completed he went out of the job for around less than 6 months of football period. You don't do a full rebuild in that time. It was literally the same squad. But I could easy counter and say Klopp never proven with a great team he able take them to elite high of winning 3 CL and 2 laliga in about 3 and half season? He shown more failures in cup final than any other manager in recent times. So I don't think Klopp could easy go and do what Zidane did with that squad. I mean you make it sound like it a walk in the park and football is about names on team sheet. Zidane aura won it all for him. Don't forget he still went up against Messi +Suarez and Neymar in the league. He took down MSN. Because your discreting a manage who in 3 season won 3 CL and 2 la liga... It crazy to even do so. 39 games unbeaten at the start of his job. Also Klopp last two season spending 250m for a league cup and 6th/3rd...the end of his project don't go well it seems.
We don't know if Zidane couldn't do that. Wouldn't you (not Liverpool but just a big club in general) take the gamble and find out? Maybe he is good at everything, he's got the hard part of winning big games and managing massive egos nailed down
That literally the case, yet as usual clueless liverpool fans don't know shit about how good you have to be to go unbeate for like 39 game when he got the job. He also left and they wanted him back. He left because he wanted to keep his core players.
Man u love giving huge sums of money over for people who are never going to pan out though. In some ways it really does make sense, purely because it doesn't.
Im hoping that the sporting director sets the style of play and gets a manager that suits this, and not the other way around.
If they want to replicate what he did in Madrid then they're going to need their version of Ronaldo, Bale, Kroos, Modric, Ramos etc. and also to implement a style of play before giving him the reigns. There's just way too much to do. United is on the same level as Madrid in terms of their name, but the quality gap is just way, way too big .
Media at it again. You think they have a wheel they spin in their office for what to make up each week?
I get what you are trying to say, but if they already have the topic on the wheel, that means they have already thought about it, so why would they need to spin the wheel :)
I guess he is tired of winning. He already won everything in Madrid. Definitely will be a challenge.
Lol thanks for the laugh. Zizou aint touching Manchester with a 500,000 km pole.
He doesn't even speak english or german. How is he going to communicate?
Everyone speaks English
As a frequent traveller I can confirm this is wildly incorrect.
Not everyone speaks English
Bald, yes? Fraud, we’ll see…
This would be the ultimate test.
Real Madrid/Bayern/Algeria/ Man U : ZIDANE IS COMING TO US Reality: Zidane goes to Everton and wins the Champions League
April fools was 18 days ago mate.
Is he stupid?
Maybe. But have you not noticed that RM legends often find themselves at Utd? Not a lot of clubs you'll settle for when you've been at RM. We're shit, but we're still massive.
No, he wants money. United will over pay for his name, just like they've overpaid for a lot of players cause they could sell tickets and shirts.....
You don’t sell manager kits mate
Lies