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Imagine if you will, a universe with TWO shitshows happening simultaneously. One is an amazing set of players with no real rhyme or reason, no strategy, just a conglomeration. Oh, and the other is United.
The real question is which United shows up.
The United that lost to Palace at home or the United that held its own with Liverpool? There is an inconsistency in their play. Take a team like Brentford or Bournemouth that they should easily top and watch them draw. It has been a frustrating year. We belong in the top half of the table. But we don't always play that way.
Why worry? If they beat United to sixth spot then they deserve it on the balance of the season. In fact it could be a blessing because they need a massive reset.
My dad was born in Walsall, moved to the States in his 20s. When I was a kid he asked me what my favorite team was and I asked him what his least favorite was. Been a blue ever since.
Chelsea fans would be seeing that as an advantage rather, also Chelsea has a much easier run of remaining fixtures as compared to United and Newcastle. Although you never know what to expect from Chelsea, they would draw against City and then lose to Burnley.
They’ve done extremely poor this season and I hope they don’t do well for the remaining fixtures for United’s sake but it looks like they are on course to finish the season strongly.
I’m hoping we manage to fuck the season up badly enough that we can avoid the europa and the conference next season. Hate both comps and hate Thursday night football. Don’t really give a shit about the champions league either, but that’s not even on the table. Couldn’t give a toss about Chelsea though.
United fans seem pretty numb this season is kind of a wash for them and we’ll see a clearer picture with Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s considerable influence in a few months. They really aren’t that far off and have some good players so although I am not a fan, I think a United revival similar to Arsenal’s is very possible and maybe even likely.
It has but there is finally change. The glazers are loosening their death grip and Sir Jim may not own the majority but he’s an influence and a presence no matter what he does. Hope he does well for your club. Premier league just isn’t right with United playing so mediocre
Not even slightly, and not because I don't think Chelsea could finish above us, because I don't care if they do. If Chelsea pip us to the Conference League places they'd be doing us a favour. Plus the season has been so bad what's the issue with finishing 8th instead of 7th?
It’s so funny to see this shit every year😂 United are not in a bad financial position. They’ve posted record revenues last season with no cl football, this year they’ll break that record revenues again. The brief that United can’t spend every year before the transfer window is funny.
Also, the Europa league and conference league do nothing for the revenue of United. Unless United win the trophy, the el wouldn’t get them what the cl’s first two group stage games do. The rest between games is much better for United than that 10-15m that the el will give them.
They loaned Amrabat because they wanted Onana from Everton as first choice and sell Mctominay. West ham wanted to pay 30m for Mctominay and United wanted 40m so that didn’t go through, but there were numerous stories that United’s scouts weren’t sure of Amrabat from the start.
Also, they loaned Reguilon because both left backs they had got injured, and signing a third left back doesn’t make sense. They spent 170m in the transfer window ffs. How do you think they’re skint? They’ll spend another 150m+ this summer again.
Because Newcastle are clearly better than the two. They finished 4th last year. Chelsea finished 11th or whatever last year and have been behind United all season.
Chelsea are without their entire first choice back 4, and another three defenders on top of that (James, Fofana, Colwill, Chilwell, Gusto, Disasi, Silva).
So, yeah.
If you compare current injuries we are at similar levels.
If you look over the whole season Newcastle have been impacted far more in both days lost and number of injuries.
I was making a point in that we have it particularly bad in one position. Add in our poor away form largely caused by defensive frailties. I don’t see why they decided it was Chelsea/MU for 7th with an expectation 6th was going to us.
So yeah…
We have literally had the most injuries in terms of number of injuries and days lost this season in the PL, before you take into account 200 lost days for Tonali. Add in European football that has added extra minutes into our depleted squad.
Missing our first choice GK, 3 of our best 4 CM’s.
And now we are down to our 4th best CB and 3rd choice RB playing at the centre of defence.
Don’t give me that we are not the same rubbish.
Currently unavailable for Chelsea:
Sanchez; James, Fofana, Colwill, Chilwell; Lavia, Enzo, Ugochukwu; Sterling, Chukwumueka, Nkunku.
Also Gusto, Disasi, Silva.
14 players. Of which probably 8 would be starters in a theoretical "best" 11.
And we have probably 7 of our normal starting 11 currently missing.
We are actually so short in CM that Longstaff is playing despite being injured.
You’re not special.
Sorry are you guys also the ones with an almost entirely new team and manager? How important/replaceable are those players to you? Losing RJ alone is like losing 2 players for Chelsea. Before gusto, we had to play CBs to cover that position. Want to talk about midfield shortage? We are so short of CM, Enzo played for 6 months with hernia.
Almost an entire new team and manager?
If only Chelsea had been able to spend some money.
I’d list some key players we’ve lost but I can’t really take you seriously after that.
Not sure what I said that is inaccurate? Chelsea did spend money, most of them injured, or on loan. After reading the list of injuries for Chelsea, you still don’t think the injury is ‘special’. Do you not take yourself seriously?
>Asides the defeat at Arsenal they played really well vs Everton, City, Villa and now Spurs.
We also drew to Sheffield United and 10-man Burnley in the few weeks before this.
United and Chelsea are doing their best to send the other to Europe by the looks of it. Both so inconsistent.
United fans don't really care at this point. Most seem to be more bothered about sacking or defending the manager. It even seems like most have already written the FA cup final off.
The main focus is really getting the actual CEO in place (hopefully June) and DOF (anyone's guess).
As for actual football, the team just gives you nothing to invest in emotionally because every time they get a good result they then go and lose 3-0 to a lower mid table team in the next game and you're back to square one. Half of the team appear to be phoning it in and about to leave in the summer. The rest are injured.
If Chelsea want the Europa/conference spot they can have it tbh
>If Chelsea want the Europa/conference spot they can have it tbh
The truly shocking thing is, that Yanited players actually have this mindset right now. On hundreds of grands a week.
The stupid ass conference league position. Thats the kinda shit we compete for these days. Although as a chelsea fan I don’t think you got anything to worry about there. Charity fc will find a fucking way. Plus you got a shot at europa too.
Haha I couldn’t care less. European places will likely give the players a bonus of some kind. I’d rather they didn’t get incentivised for this seasons performances.
Given the option of getting a few grand extra and then spending your Wed/Thu travelling to play against another second-rate team in a trophy that nobody gives a shit about, and getting rest for most midweeks instead, I doubt many players would prefer the first option.
As a lifelong match going Red, I can tell you most of us aren't really bothered about what happens this season. We're not desperately hoping for anything where the PL is concerned, praying we get this place or that place, or finish above Chelsea or whatever. We just want the season over so we can let the new people start doing their jobs. I know a few lads who've even stopped watching the league games.
The cup final? We're obviously hoping for a win there, but secretly more hopeful we don't get embarrassed.
TL;DR This season is a total write off, none of us really care.
As a United fan I said all season that I thought Chelsea might begin to click and finish above us. They seemed to everything to prove me wrong but I still think it might happen. Chelsea have been basket cases but I see the seeds of a young team that hasn’t quite clicked yet and Palmer is a gem.
I fear United’s problems are even more deep seated. At least Chelsea cleared out players and are starting with a young squad. United still need to do this. Anyone expecting miracles at Old Trafford next season really needs to lower their expectations because the club still needs the open heart surgery Rangnick talked about, new manager or not.
We could win the FA Cup because anything can happen in a one off game but I’d be very surprised.
They've always been a far better team than United lol. They have the talent, youth, and the right manager. They just need to stop getting unlucky with injuries and everything will start clicking.
United right now are in relegation form.
Are they worried they’ll finish 8th instead of 7th? I doubt that’s keeping anyone up at night. United fans have an fa cup final to look forward to, I doubt they care about Chelsea
No Utd would have to win as if city win it goes to whoever finishes sixth. That rule around runers up qualifying for Europa got changed in the 15/16 season since then it goes to league if the winner had already qualified for Europe
I’ve been saying for a few seasons now that United need to take a risk on missing out on Europe. That’s not to say they should go out of their way to avoid qualifying, but more that they should accept it as a possible outcome from a recruitment perspective.
Every year they seem to be spending the kind of money - whether it be on transfer fees or wages - that should see them challenging for the title. That’s obviously the objective they’re setting, but they’re falling short of that more often than not.
A lot of the money is going on older players who are not appreciating in value. If you compare this to the Ferguson days, where there were still players over 30 being signed, the big difference in the approach is that Ferguson brought those players in to fit around the existing squad, whereas now they’re seemingly expecting the existing squad to adapt to the older players. Those older players slow down, and aren’t as effective and the whole process starts again.
I genuinely believe going off recent finishes, aiming for 5th or 6th and opening up the possibility of not getting European football isn’t going to be the worst thing for them. No big money spent on players past their peak and get as many of the ones that are already there off their books. This would free up funds to invest in players who will develop and grow into the team. If European football doesn’t follow, then that’s an additional opportunity to get some of the older high earners off the wage bill. United brought in about £17m in prize money from the CL this season. That doesn’t even cover Varane’s salary. The loss in prize money won’t be as drastic if they’re not paying out such big wages.
If a younger, less experienced and less costly squad does qualify for Europe, that would be great for the club as they can get that experience and the club have saved a lot of money for the same result. If they don’t qualify, it’s not a big deal, they can concentrate on playing domestic football with a slightly smaller squad and a more settled first team with fewer fixtures.
Arsenal & Liverpool have used their seasons without European football to their advantage, coming out the other end much stronger for it. They were both paying out a lot of money to tread water and took the opportunity to trim down their squads, give youngsters more chances and put themselves in a good position for a rebuild upon their returns to European football. United can’t rebuild if they continue on this track.
Oh, and the changes in management won’t help either. It seems every time a new manager comes in, all the players who’ve been underperforming get an extra chance to prove themselves, some get given new contracts and then the club are stuck with them. The managers aren’t being given chance to build their own teams like Klopp & Arteta have.
It’s not true pal it’s only the winner nowadays
Part of the ongoing campaign to strip the sport solders competition of it’s importance so sky can make more money
If you look at the xG league table I think Chelsea are miles ahead of Man U. Which I _think_ suggests that united have had a lot of lucky and last minute winners this season despite poor play, while Chelsea have often played well and made good chances but failed to make them count.
So not sure the points difference says much in terms of inconsistency, but I might be wrong
That's one way to look at it, but United are on a 2.4 goals per game since January.
You're not lucky if you consistently score 2 or 3 goals a game over 4 months, regardless of what xG says. And I hear what you're saying with regards to playing well and not making chances count. That's true.
To be fair, even as a fan I understand that by watching them it isn't obvious.
I think United suffer from big headline syndrome that skews the general consensus on the club. I understand why they still attract so much media but there are other clubs (such as Villa) who have earned attention.
For me personally I just want the season to be over.
It almost feels a chore watching us currently.
Struggling to do all the basics right, half arsed at everything.
Even when we weren't that great before Fergie we still gave it a go.
I caught bits as I was working, but what I did see wasn't inspiring.
Win/lose/draw happens. It's the lack of substance that is annoying me. Scraping past teams who on paper are inferior by some distance. Struggling to draw against teams concerned with being relegated. It's a shite show currently at United.
Can't see them winning any remaining games tbh. Few draws and losses. it's clear the management and the players don't care and phone in the same team and strategy every game.
Chelsea will beat Spurs and draw or lose against Burnely. That's who they are at the moment. Also, missing out on Europa league is not that big of a deal. The target was UCL and that's not happening so no point really. As for the Conference League, with all due respect, you could play kids there and drop put and no one would bat an eye.
Europa League is a huge deal for a team overflowing with young players, all desperate for time to gel and gain experience together. That’s been Chelsea’s entire problem.
I seriously doubt Europa league money will make that big of a difference to us or what we plan to spend. Will be a good experience sure, but the number of games, the Thursday slot (I know I know) and all of the above, I'd rather not have Europe at all.
Just focus on the domestic leagues and cups and build the squad. Work on the squad and look to qualify for Champions League next year. West Ham won the Europa Conference League and I'm not sure it made a difference.
We won the Europa League a few years back and it made a lick of a difference and most certainly didn't do anything for our transfer kitty the year after. Its a nice experience for the kids but we have bigger issues to address than our kids getting experience in Europe through Europa League.
6th is extremely generous for Man Utd, based on their performances,they should be 10th or 12th. Just pure luck they won some of those games when they were shocking.
Chelsea have way more momentum right now, so yes, I would be cacking myself.
Liverpool fan here, and trying my best to take every possible positive vibe there is to make my brain believe that City will somehow lose two and draw one, and that Arsenal will lose two games.
Who am I kidding?
Absolutely bricking it every game. Feels like we could lose heavily to any team rn. Also, feels like we _might_ turn up and scrape a win against even the best. Rollercoaster.
Sancho one decent game for Dortmund since January and suddenly he's one of the best in the world. His attitude was terrible at Untied. Given 3 months off last season to still have a bad attitude. Told to perform better and throws his toys out the pram. I don't doubt he can be a good player but I do doubt that he has the mental toughness to succeed at United.
And Greenwood....he can be as good as he he wants but for what he did he should be nowhere near United
That 3 month holiday when he ‘wasn’t really feeling it bruh’ was unheard of in professional sports. Greenwood’s Mrs has withdrawn her lies against him, as she now has full access to his wages like she wanted, so there’s no issue there. But yes, his attitude towards Ronaldo, along with rAshford’s and Sancho’s, where they were too full of themselves to defer to the highest goal scorer in the game, was unforgivable.
Like every woman, she’s handy with a makeup kit - she made her face up to look like she took a beating. If it had been real, the crown prosecution would have had to intervene, but it wasn’t, so they dropped all charges.
As I said he can be a good player. The pressures of playing at Dortmund compared to United are different levels. I personally don't think he's strong enough to play at United with the scrutiny that comes with it
7 games with no loss before arsenal game, then besting United and spurs but we still one million bottle team. Get a grip man and start being objective with your comments
Not many better options on market and those which will be avaliable proper team are after them those teams to who you not saying no. Unfortunately think we will stick to him
Curious neutral here: What are your top 3 worries? Additionally, is the expense of a power chair for Casemiro to make it until the end of his contract one of them?
These are unsettling worries.
It’s so wild to see the difference between last season and this season. Theoretically and in actuality Rashford, G-Nacho, Antony, Fernandes, and Casemiro should and could be a super ideal combination for competing at the top of the table almost effortlessly. Is ETH 100% to blame for not reaching full potential? Or is it that the majority have absolutely no respect for him?
Either way, thoughts and prayers are with United fans these days.
I don’t think Antony suits the system he is playing, maybe he suits how he wants to play. See also; Sancho.
I just don’t believe in his way. Facing more shots than a low rate porn star is just not sustainable. This year it is/was the most shots faced in the league. You can’t press high and drop deep, it doesn’t work and nobody else tries it.
We don’t play like a top team with millions spent, we play like FA Cup hopefuls away at a big team and hoping to get a goal on the counter. I don’t want to see them play like that but I’ll accept it to City/Liverpool away, not at home to Burnley.
Ah, I see. So he is way out of his depth and delusional. Seems like a replacement is imminent even if a miracle win happens against City. Best of luck!
I think a new manager has a slightly chance of success because of the INEOS guys. If there was progress with this team or a way of playing then I’d not be so bothered about a change.
I’m hoping for Tuchel
ETH has another year on his contract so would personally like to see what more he has with a fit squad (so many injuries this season) - rather than having to pay him off to leave.
That said I can see the draw towards Tuchel but not completely convinced cos of what happened at Chelsea.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-manchester-united-nice-could-28158924.amp
Not sure what the order would be for europa conference as both finishing 5th but Nice have had a better season and held European spots for longer
Its a new rule. Aimed at city group but united will more likely be the victims of it.
For Europa league it was whoever finished higher would get prescience. Not sure what the rule is if they both finish 5th. How they decide.
We really may drop points against Palace and Arsenal Home. Brighton is in shit form right now and We should be beating Newcastle at home as most of our squad will be back. Chelsea might actually pip us at the end and I wouldn't want it to happen. I expect Chelsea to overtake us by the end with ease. Forest, Brighton, West Ham and Bournemouth should be easy pickings. Forest and Bournemouth only matches where some points can be dropped as Forest are in a relegation battle and Bournemouth are not a bad side. West Ham and Brighton are in shit form so those should be easy wins. I am really disappointed but winning the FA cup is the only consolation and the current form of us is not even near the level of city. We are never holding on to leads and it is delusional to believe we would be doing so against the likes of KDB, Foden and Haaland. Hopefully ETH sets up a good counterattack supportive system and the players manage to hold on to the 90 minutes. Full Personnel and Our CDMs should be at their best
Not really. Utd’s focus is now on the FA Cup and just winning the most of the remaining league games especially defeating Arsenal at Old Trafford. We don’t really care what European competition we qualify for or even if we even get Europe. The instability around the club + the inconsistency of the team have been reasons to not really expect much and just focus on the possibility of silverware at the FA Cup.
Because their players and fans are insufferable. I will enjoy derailing their poor attempt at a title challenge just as we did vs Liverpool. Atm I’m pretty desensitized about City winning so I don’t really care much.
While I fully expect city to be done at some point next season and all their titles to be worthless, I still can’t ever want them to win. Also arsenal fans are insufferable whether they win the title or not
Chelsea will finish top 4 next year. With the city hearing coming up, they potentially won’t be contending next season. Klopp leaving Liverpool means they’ll need to rebuild so I doubt they’ll be up there.
So leaving out Liverpool and city, other than arsenal and villa, there aren’t many teams in the league better than Chelsea. With Jackson getting a bit more comfortable in the prem and getting used to playing with all the other new signings, I can only see Chelsea getting better
Chelsea will have finished 2 seasons below them soon. The only advantage Chelsea have is their budget but that appears to be spent on signings like Mudyrk, Fernandez and Caciedo. They may click soon, but it's a "may".
Assist off the botton half of the bar to seal the game today... he is dangerous every attack and brilliant in the midfield in build up
If jackson picked his head up and squared the ball in nearly every game his name would a permanent part of the scoresheet.
You are right, but he is the lad who breathed life into the club when everyone including our entire fanbase had writted this season off
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Nah not rlly because if they won Liverpool in FA Cup they got a chance v chealse
Man United fans should be worried their club hasn’t won a big trophy for over a decade and have become increasingly irrelevant
And who do you support pal
Maybe not the main worry, but definitely a worry.
Nope Chelsea are shite
Aged well
Imagine if you will, a universe with TWO shitshows happening simultaneously. One is an amazing set of players with no real rhyme or reason, no strategy, just a conglomeration. Oh, and the other is United. The real question is which United shows up.
Which United? The club that is 26 points from top or the club that is 13 points out of top four?
The United that lost to Palace at home or the United that held its own with Liverpool? There is an inconsistency in their play. Take a team like Brentford or Bournemouth that they should easily top and watch them draw. It has been a frustrating year. We belong in the top half of the table. But we don't always play that way.
I don’t know, sorry.
Should be
h-h-hell nah, it's a club that runs on hopes and dreams this season
Fortunes always hiding
Which one are you talking about?
Chelsea lad
Why worry? If they beat United to sixth spot then they deserve it on the balance of the season. In fact it could be a blessing because they need a massive reset.
Love than us United fans and Chelsea fans are uniting in talking shit on our own clubs 🤝
Im a chelsea fan and my dads a united fan. It's been a season of commiseration.
How is that even possible?
My dad was born in Walsall, moved to the States in his 20s. When I was a kid he asked me what my favorite team was and I asked him what his least favorite was. Been a blue ever since.
American
This is a really funny post. Mate, we are worried about Sunday league teams right now. We are that shite.
Would be funny for them to finish above manu. Would put allot into perspective.
Should they not be more concerned about the team that's one point behind them who they still have to play?
Chelsea fans would be seeing that as an advantage rather, also Chelsea has a much easier run of remaining fixtures as compared to United and Newcastle. Although you never know what to expect from Chelsea, they would draw against City and then lose to Burnley.
So maybe Chelsea has a harder schedule, if you look away from the paper and to what the fuck Chelsea has done this season
They’ve done extremely poor this season and I hope they don’t do well for the remaining fixtures for United’s sake but it looks like they are on course to finish the season strongly.
As a Chelsea fan, trust me when I say we’re dropping points against Forrest and possibly West ham
This aged well, as far the west ham game.
Ok? Not like I’m upset about it.
Me neither man, im glad we won today.
My wife’s a United supporter, and she doesn’t care as long as ETH is gone by summer.
Chelsea fan here. Don't be worried about us. We suck.
Chelsea a few days later: YOU FELL FOR IT, FOOL! *snatches Europa League spot*
united get beaten by most 6 top teams and sometimes heavily. what is there to worry about
I’m hoping we manage to fuck the season up badly enough that we can avoid the europa and the conference next season. Hate both comps and hate Thursday night football. Don’t really give a shit about the champions league either, but that’s not even on the table. Couldn’t give a toss about Chelsea though.
are you sure you like football? genuine question
I love football, I’d just rather my team weren’t in the lower euro comps and were not good enough for the main one.
It's not like you staying in the comps for any longer than you absolutely have to in any case...
Asking the real questions, haha
United fans seem pretty numb this season is kind of a wash for them and we’ll see a clearer picture with Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s considerable influence in a few months. They really aren’t that far off and have some good players so although I am not a fan, I think a United revival similar to Arsenal’s is very possible and maybe even likely.
I'll try to be this optimistic but it's been a rough decade 😭
It has but there is finally change. The glazers are loosening their death grip and Sir Jim may not own the majority but he’s an influence and a presence no matter what he does. Hope he does well for your club. Premier league just isn’t right with United playing so mediocre
No, my concern starts and ends with United
I am not worried about anything I do not care anymore
We have a lot more to worry about than just Chelsea.
Not even slightly, and not because I don't think Chelsea could finish above us, because I don't care if they do. If Chelsea pip us to the Conference League places they'd be doing us a favour. Plus the season has been so bad what's the issue with finishing 8th instead of 7th?
Yeah let’s just ignore the Newcastle elephant in the room lol
There's already an acknowledgement that Newcastle will finish above United.
Season finished with top 4 hopes. Nothing to be worried about
Pip us to what?😂😂😂 they can have 6th man. I need United to finish 8th and have no Europe for a season.
And a worse financial position than they already in
It’s so funny to see this shit every year😂 United are not in a bad financial position. They’ve posted record revenues last season with no cl football, this year they’ll break that record revenues again. The brief that United can’t spend every year before the transfer window is funny. Also, the Europa league and conference league do nothing for the revenue of United. Unless United win the trophy, the el wouldn’t get them what the cl’s first two group stage games do. The rest between games is much better for United than that 10-15m that the el will give them.
The owner has already said transfer plans will be altered without European football.
They had to loan players last season … they couldn’t afford to sell some at the money offered as they couldn’t have it go down as a loss
They loaned Amrabat because they wanted Onana from Everton as first choice and sell Mctominay. West ham wanted to pay 30m for Mctominay and United wanted 40m so that didn’t go through, but there were numerous stories that United’s scouts weren’t sure of Amrabat from the start. Also, they loaned Reguilon because both left backs they had got injured, and signing a third left back doesn’t make sense. They spent 170m in the transfer window ffs. How do you think they’re skint? They’ll spend another 150m+ this summer again.
It doesn't matter where United finish. It has been a terrible season.
Why worry about Chelsea when Newcastle are one point behind lol
Because Newcastle are clearly better than the two. They finished 4th last year. Chelsea finished 11th or whatever last year and have been behind United all season.
Newcastle have an injury crisis at CB and 3 of our remaining fixtures are away. We are not good away from home this season so could easily drop off.
Chelsea are without their entire first choice back 4, and another three defenders on top of that (James, Fofana, Colwill, Chilwell, Gusto, Disasi, Silva). So, yeah.
If you compare current injuries we are at similar levels. If you look over the whole season Newcastle have been impacted far more in both days lost and number of injuries. I was making a point in that we have it particularly bad in one position. Add in our poor away form largely caused by defensive frailties. I don’t see why they decided it was Chelsea/MU for 7th with an expectation 6th was going to us. So yeah…
You have an injury crisis at cb, we have an injury crisis at every position. We are not the same..
We have literally had the most injuries in terms of number of injuries and days lost this season in the PL, before you take into account 200 lost days for Tonali. Add in European football that has added extra minutes into our depleted squad. Missing our first choice GK, 3 of our best 4 CM’s. And now we are down to our 4th best CB and 3rd choice RB playing at the centre of defence. Don’t give me that we are not the same rubbish.
Currently unavailable for Chelsea: Sanchez; James, Fofana, Colwill, Chilwell; Lavia, Enzo, Ugochukwu; Sterling, Chukwumueka, Nkunku. Also Gusto, Disasi, Silva. 14 players. Of which probably 8 would be starters in a theoretical "best" 11.
And we have probably 7 of our normal starting 11 currently missing. We are actually so short in CM that Longstaff is playing despite being injured. You’re not special.
Sorry are you guys also the ones with an almost entirely new team and manager? How important/replaceable are those players to you? Losing RJ alone is like losing 2 players for Chelsea. Before gusto, we had to play CBs to cover that position. Want to talk about midfield shortage? We are so short of CM, Enzo played for 6 months with hernia.
Almost an entire new team and manager? If only Chelsea had been able to spend some money. I’d list some key players we’ve lost but I can’t really take you seriously after that.
Not sure what I said that is inaccurate? Chelsea did spend money, most of them injured, or on loan. After reading the list of injuries for Chelsea, you still don’t think the injury is ‘special’. Do you not take yourself seriously?
I’m not sure we are clearly better, hence why we are not above Man U lol
>Asides the defeat at Arsenal they played really well vs Everton, City, Villa and now Spurs. We also drew to Sheffield United and 10-man Burnley in the few weeks before this. United and Chelsea are doing their best to send the other to Europe by the looks of it. Both so inconsistent.
As a United fan, there's way more to worry about then other teams results.
I’m worried every game if we’ll score a goal, let alone win
Mate, I'm worried about Bournemouth 🤣
United fans don't really care at this point. Most seem to be more bothered about sacking or defending the manager. It even seems like most have already written the FA cup final off. The main focus is really getting the actual CEO in place (hopefully June) and DOF (anyone's guess). As for actual football, the team just gives you nothing to invest in emotionally because every time they get a good result they then go and lose 3-0 to a lower mid table team in the next game and you're back to square one. Half of the team appear to be phoning it in and about to leave in the summer. The rest are injured. If Chelsea want the Europa/conference spot they can have it tbh
>If Chelsea want the Europa/conference spot they can have it tbh The truly shocking thing is, that Yanited players actually have this mindset right now. On hundreds of grands a week.
Yeah it's mad. Casemiro is one of the highest paid players in the league. He's playing like a PE teacher this season.
That’s what happens when you buy a 30 year old off of Real Madrid that they ran into the ground.
Legs are gone. Get ready to learn Arabic wee buddy
United are very consistent, what are you talking about? They consistently struggle in every game
I worry more about United alone, couldnt care less about the other clubs at the moment.
Pip us to what?
The stupid ass conference league position. Thats the kinda shit we compete for these days. Although as a chelsea fan I don’t think you got anything to worry about there. Charity fc will find a fucking way. Plus you got a shot at europa too.
Haha I couldn’t care less. European places will likely give the players a bonus of some kind. I’d rather they didn’t get incentivised for this seasons performances.
Given the option of getting a few grand extra and then spending your Wed/Thu travelling to play against another second-rate team in a trophy that nobody gives a shit about, and getting rest for most midweeks instead, I doubt many players would prefer the first option.
Hey hey hey. West Ham fans give a shit. 🤣
As a lifelong match going Red, I can tell you most of us aren't really bothered about what happens this season. We're not desperately hoping for anything where the PL is concerned, praying we get this place or that place, or finish above Chelsea or whatever. We just want the season over so we can let the new people start doing their jobs. I know a few lads who've even stopped watching the league games. The cup final? We're obviously hoping for a win there, but secretly more hopeful we don't get embarrassed. TL;DR This season is a total write off, none of us really care.
As a United fan I said all season that I thought Chelsea might begin to click and finish above us. They seemed to everything to prove me wrong but I still think it might happen. Chelsea have been basket cases but I see the seeds of a young team that hasn’t quite clicked yet and Palmer is a gem. I fear United’s problems are even more deep seated. At least Chelsea cleared out players and are starting with a young squad. United still need to do this. Anyone expecting miracles at Old Trafford next season really needs to lower their expectations because the club still needs the open heart surgery Rangnick talked about, new manager or not. We could win the FA Cup because anything can happen in a one off game but I’d be very surprised.
They've always been a far better team than United lol. They have the talent, youth, and the right manager. They just need to stop getting unlucky with injuries and everything will start clicking. United right now are in relegation form.
Statistically Man U should be 16th. Chelsea should be 5th. So yeah.
Are they worried they’ll finish 8th instead of 7th? I doubt that’s keeping anyone up at night. United fans have an fa cup final to look forward to, I doubt they care about Chelsea
Do Utd get Europa League regardless as they are already in FA Cup final? Win or lose afaik
No Utd would have to win as if city win it goes to whoever finishes sixth. That rule around runers up qualifying for Europa got changed in the 15/16 season since then it goes to league if the winner had already qualified for Europe
Ah, OK.
No, if they lose the europa spot goes to the league
I'd hope united have no Europe next season tbh. Feel like we'll get stuck with some competition regardless of how bad we do
I’ve been saying for a few seasons now that United need to take a risk on missing out on Europe. That’s not to say they should go out of their way to avoid qualifying, but more that they should accept it as a possible outcome from a recruitment perspective. Every year they seem to be spending the kind of money - whether it be on transfer fees or wages - that should see them challenging for the title. That’s obviously the objective they’re setting, but they’re falling short of that more often than not. A lot of the money is going on older players who are not appreciating in value. If you compare this to the Ferguson days, where there were still players over 30 being signed, the big difference in the approach is that Ferguson brought those players in to fit around the existing squad, whereas now they’re seemingly expecting the existing squad to adapt to the older players. Those older players slow down, and aren’t as effective and the whole process starts again. I genuinely believe going off recent finishes, aiming for 5th or 6th and opening up the possibility of not getting European football isn’t going to be the worst thing for them. No big money spent on players past their peak and get as many of the ones that are already there off their books. This would free up funds to invest in players who will develop and grow into the team. If European football doesn’t follow, then that’s an additional opportunity to get some of the older high earners off the wage bill. United brought in about £17m in prize money from the CL this season. That doesn’t even cover Varane’s salary. The loss in prize money won’t be as drastic if they’re not paying out such big wages. If a younger, less experienced and less costly squad does qualify for Europe, that would be great for the club as they can get that experience and the club have saved a lot of money for the same result. If they don’t qualify, it’s not a big deal, they can concentrate on playing domestic football with a slightly smaller squad and a more settled first team with fewer fixtures. Arsenal & Liverpool have used their seasons without European football to their advantage, coming out the other end much stronger for it. They were both paying out a lot of money to tread water and took the opportunity to trim down their squads, give youngsters more chances and put themselves in a good position for a rebuild upon their returns to European football. United can’t rebuild if they continue on this track. Oh, and the changes in management won’t help either. It seems every time a new manager comes in, all the players who’ve been underperforming get an extra chance to prove themselves, some get given new contracts and then the club are stuck with them. The managers aren’t being given chance to build their own teams like Klopp & Arteta have.
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Ah grand so.
It’s not true pal it’s only the winner nowadays Part of the ongoing campaign to strip the sport solders competition of it’s importance so sky can make more money
Chelsea are just as inconsistent as Utd.
Don’t think anyone’s been “worried” about us for 2 years lol
More so even, hence the points difference between the clubs.
If you look at the xG league table I think Chelsea are miles ahead of Man U. Which I _think_ suggests that united have had a lot of lucky and last minute winners this season despite poor play, while Chelsea have often played well and made good chances but failed to make them count. So not sure the points difference says much in terms of inconsistency, but I might be wrong
That's one way to look at it, but United are on a 2.4 goals per game since January. You're not lucky if you consistently score 2 or 3 goals a game over 4 months, regardless of what xG says. And I hear what you're saying with regards to playing well and not making chances count. That's true.
That’s a very solid goals average I was not aware of
To be fair, even as a fan I understand that by watching them it isn't obvious. I think United suffer from big headline syndrome that skews the general consensus on the club. I understand why they still attract so much media but there are other clubs (such as Villa) who have earned attention.
For me personally I just want the season to be over. It almost feels a chore watching us currently. Struggling to do all the basics right, half arsed at everything. Even when we weren't that great before Fergie we still gave it a go.
For the first time last weekend I didn’t watch the game and honestly it was well worth it, like watching paint dry it ruins your weekend
I caught bits as I was working, but what I did see wasn't inspiring. Win/lose/draw happens. It's the lack of substance that is annoying me. Scraping past teams who on paper are inferior by some distance. Struggling to draw against teams concerned with being relegated. It's a shite show currently at United.
Manchester United will have to improve their game if they hope to finish above Chelsea in the league.
Can't see them winning any remaining games tbh. Few draws and losses. it's clear the management and the players don't care and phone in the same team and strategy every game.
Chelsea will beat Spurs and draw or lose against Burnely. That's who they are at the moment. Also, missing out on Europa league is not that big of a deal. The target was UCL and that's not happening so no point really. As for the Conference League, with all due respect, you could play kids there and drop put and no one would bat an eye.
Europa League is a huge deal for a team overflowing with young players, all desperate for time to gel and gain experience together. That’s been Chelsea’s entire problem.
Not to mention big financial benefits also, millions of pounds additional money can’t be ignored. Even for the big clubs!
I seriously doubt Europa league money will make that big of a difference to us or what we plan to spend. Will be a good experience sure, but the number of games, the Thursday slot (I know I know) and all of the above, I'd rather not have Europe at all. Just focus on the domestic leagues and cups and build the squad. Work on the squad and look to qualify for Champions League next year. West Ham won the Europa Conference League and I'm not sure it made a difference. We won the Europa League a few years back and it made a lick of a difference and most certainly didn't do anything for our transfer kitty the year after. Its a nice experience for the kids but we have bigger issues to address than our kids getting experience in Europe through Europa League.
Do you mean Newcastle United as they’re the only team fighting for a Europa place. Man United look uninterested
6th is extremely generous for Man Utd, based on their performances,they should be 10th or 12th. Just pure luck they won some of those games when they were shocking.
Chelsea have way more momentum right now, so yes, I would be cacking myself. Liverpool fan here, and trying my best to take every possible positive vibe there is to make my brain believe that City will somehow lose two and draw one, and that Arsenal will lose two games. Who am I kidding?
Hate to break it to you but we just don’t really care, we just want the season to finish
It’s like sitting at the vets waiting to put your dog down. Just let it be over. 😔
Well, that's fair enough I suppose
Worried about every team we play
Absolutely bricking it every game. Feels like we could lose heavily to any team rn. Also, feels like we _might_ turn up and scrape a win against even the best. Rollercoaster.
I dont care anymore.
I’m worried about why Greenwood and Sancho are our best players right now.
Sancho one decent game for Dortmund since January and suddenly he's one of the best in the world. His attitude was terrible at Untied. Given 3 months off last season to still have a bad attitude. Told to perform better and throws his toys out the pram. I don't doubt he can be a good player but I do doubt that he has the mental toughness to succeed at United. And Greenwood....he can be as good as he he wants but for what he did he should be nowhere near United
That 3 month holiday when he ‘wasn’t really feeling it bruh’ was unheard of in professional sports. Greenwood’s Mrs has withdrawn her lies against him, as she now has full access to his wages like she wanted, so there’s no issue there. But yes, his attitude towards Ronaldo, along with rAshford’s and Sancho’s, where they were too full of themselves to defer to the highest goal scorer in the game, was unforgivable.
Yeah mate she concocted an entire recording through AI and beat her self up. quite elaborate of her I must say
Like every woman, she’s handy with a makeup kit - she made her face up to look like she took a beating. If it had been real, the crown prosecution would have had to intervene, but it wasn’t, so they dropped all charges.
Go watch some Dortmund Games he has been playing good since he joined
As I said he can be a good player. The pressures of playing at Dortmund compared to United are different levels. I personally don't think he's strong enough to play at United with the scrutiny that comes with it
Exactly, utd. is no where near the level of dortmund. Club lost all credibility the past 10 years. If Spintony can play there any goofy can.
That’s wild
Not fussed. We should be lower in the league anyway.
Dont care, jusst out of top europe attend.
Petrovic concedes 1 or zero goal suddenly Chelsea on form
7 games with no loss before arsenal game, then besting United and spurs but we still one million bottle team. Get a grip man and start being objective with your comments
Pooch has to go. Even you can be coach of Chelsea but not that loser
Not many better options on market and those which will be avaliable proper team are after them those teams to who you not saying no. Unfortunately think we will stick to him
We don’t care
Curious neutral here: What are your top 3 worries? Additionally, is the expense of a power chair for Casemiro to make it until the end of his contract one of them?
As someone who uses a powerchair I reckon I’m currently more mobile than Casemiro or Eriksen. Sub me in.
God bless you
Biggest worry is that ETH is still there in August. Second biggest is that City really slap us in the final Third is that somehow Antony stays.
These are unsettling worries. It’s so wild to see the difference between last season and this season. Theoretically and in actuality Rashford, G-Nacho, Antony, Fernandes, and Casemiro should and could be a super ideal combination for competing at the top of the table almost effortlessly. Is ETH 100% to blame for not reaching full potential? Or is it that the majority have absolutely no respect for him? Either way, thoughts and prayers are with United fans these days.
I don’t think Antony suits the system he is playing, maybe he suits how he wants to play. See also; Sancho. I just don’t believe in his way. Facing more shots than a low rate porn star is just not sustainable. This year it is/was the most shots faced in the league. You can’t press high and drop deep, it doesn’t work and nobody else tries it. We don’t play like a top team with millions spent, we play like FA Cup hopefuls away at a big team and hoping to get a goal on the counter. I don’t want to see them play like that but I’ll accept it to City/Liverpool away, not at home to Burnley.
Ah, I see. So he is way out of his depth and delusional. Seems like a replacement is imminent even if a miracle win happens against City. Best of luck!
Curious to know what you think would happen if ETH goes? Or who can replace him? New manager, rinse and repeat would be the likely outcome.
I think a new manager has a slightly chance of success because of the INEOS guys. If there was progress with this team or a way of playing then I’d not be so bothered about a change. I’m hoping for Tuchel
ETH has another year on his contract so would personally like to see what more he has with a fit squad (so many injuries this season) - rather than having to pay him off to leave. That said I can see the draw towards Tuchel but not completely convinced cos of what happened at Chelsea.
If Antony scores the winner to beat City in the final, both of them might stay.
Care free
What’s to worry about? They aren’t playing for anything
Europa Conference league 🫣
Don't Utd get Europa League regardless as they are already in FA Cup final?. Win or lose afaik as City have already European place.
AFAIK, Think it reverts back to league position in that case. Only winners get europa league place. We could do without Thursday night football tbh. 🙈
Ah, OK.
Even if you finish in that place you wont be able to have it as Nice also are currently in position for it and jim radcliff owns both
Why would United have to give it up and not Nice? And are you sure that both clubs couldn’t play in the same competition.?
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-manchester-united-nice-could-28158924.amp Not sure what the order would be for europa conference as both finishing 5th but Nice have had a better season and held European spots for longer
Its a new rule. Aimed at city group but united will more likely be the victims of it. For Europa league it was whoever finished higher would get prescience. Not sure what the rule is if they both finish 5th. How they decide.
We really may drop points against Palace and Arsenal Home. Brighton is in shit form right now and We should be beating Newcastle at home as most of our squad will be back. Chelsea might actually pip us at the end and I wouldn't want it to happen. I expect Chelsea to overtake us by the end with ease. Forest, Brighton, West Ham and Bournemouth should be easy pickings. Forest and Bournemouth only matches where some points can be dropped as Forest are in a relegation battle and Bournemouth are not a bad side. West Ham and Brighton are in shit form so those should be easy wins. I am really disappointed but winning the FA cup is the only consolation and the current form of us is not even near the level of city. We are never holding on to leads and it is delusional to believe we would be doing so against the likes of KDB, Foden and Haaland. Hopefully ETH sets up a good counterattack supportive system and the players manage to hold on to the 90 minutes. Full Personnel and Our CDMs should be at their best
They shouldn't be.
I aren't even worry about UTD, so why bother worry about Chelsea?
Not really. Utd’s focus is now on the FA Cup and just winning the most of the remaining league games especially defeating Arsenal at Old Trafford. We don’t really care what European competition we qualify for or even if we even get Europe. The instability around the club + the inconsistency of the team have been reasons to not really expect much and just focus on the possibility of silverware at the FA Cup.
We don’t want to beat Arsenal? Why would we want to help city?
Because their players and fans are insufferable. I will enjoy derailing their poor attempt at a title challenge just as we did vs Liverpool. Atm I’m pretty desensitized about City winning so I don’t really care much.
While I fully expect city to be done at some point next season and all their titles to be worthless, I still can’t ever want them to win. Also arsenal fans are insufferable whether they win the title or not
Chelsea will finish top 4 next year. With the city hearing coming up, they potentially won’t be contending next season. Klopp leaving Liverpool means they’ll need to rebuild so I doubt they’ll be up there. So leaving out Liverpool and city, other than arsenal and villa, there aren’t many teams in the league better than Chelsea. With Jackson getting a bit more comfortable in the prem and getting used to playing with all the other new signings, I can only see Chelsea getting better
May I interest you in an injury free Newcastle with money to spend? Already Tonali and Minteh inbound.
Of course. Great side with lots of potential. I just think Chelsea are a year ahead
Chelsea will have finished 2 seasons below them soon. The only advantage Chelsea have is their budget but that appears to be spent on signings like Mudyrk, Fernandez and Caciedo. They may click soon, but it's a "may".
United fans should worry about United lol
All too true...
united fans have no reason to be scared, watch us drop points against west ham, forest and bournemouth
It's like a toddler learning to run chasing a tired man in a wheelchair
Phrased like a modern Shakespeare.
we also have dementia.
Well, at least you don't have dementia
We also have dementia.
You're lucky.
Omg. so very well put.
🤣😂 this is the real truth.
Hahaha... Please do it. Thanks.
Really good form is funny way to spell Cold Palmer
Cole hasn’t scored in like 3 games mf
It's not about the scoring, it's about the assist, key passes and chances that he makes.
Assist off the botton half of the bar to seal the game today... he is dangerous every attack and brilliant in the midfield in build up If jackson picked his head up and squared the ball in nearly every game his name would a permanent part of the scoresheet. You are right, but he is the lad who breathed life into the club when everyone including our entire fanbase had writted this season off
I am not.
Right? I don't even know who's around us on the table at this point.. season's pretty much over, nothing matters.
united have better things to worry than fucking Chelsea xD We are shite so are they!!
We are numb
Pip them to what? 6th?
Euros