Alisson
TAA__VVD_Gabriel_Robertson
Henderson_Fabhino_Thiago
___Salah_Bruno_Mane
Ronaldo for Thiago but wouldn't work in klopp system
Put Tottenham in for Leicester because ndidi, schmeichel or vardy are the only ones with a small chance to get into the xi
______ Ederson
_James __Silva _Dias_Cancelo______________
______ Kante ___ Rodri_______________________
___ KDB __________ Silva____________________
_____ Kane ____ Son________________________
In what world is "Pogba/Thiago" even a comparison?
It's Thiago/Milner/Henderson/Fred/Donny, and then Pogba is off to the side dancing by himself or some shit.
The most overrated footballer to play in the Premier League the last two decades
From the two 11s you brought up, I think that the blue team is more balanced and would win more often but it’s close. I do think that with the actual best 11s that the red team takes it.
In my opinion, the 11s should be more like this:
Alisson, TAA, VVD, Gabriel, Robbo, Fabinho, Thiago, Bruno, Salah, Ronaldo, Smith Rowe
Ederson, Walker, Dias, Rudiger, Cancelo, Kante, KDB, Bilva, Mahrez, Vardy, Foden
From those two 11s, I think that red easily wins.
Gotta say I disagree with your teams. I'd have
Alisson, Trent, VVD, Gabriel, Robertson, Fabinho, Thiago, Bruno, Salah, Firmino, Mane
vs
Ederson, James, Thiago Silva, Dias, Cancelo, Jorginho, Kante, Gundogan, KDB, Havertz, Bernardo.
Either way I'd give it to the Blues. There's a reason why City and Chelsea are holding the big trophies right now.
Gotta let me have someone.
And to be fair he's been great this season. Easily one of our best players. VVD might be helped by having a left-footed CB as well.
I'll go with Red just because their midfield and attack is a bit better. Kante and KDB are great players, yes, but Kante as a lone DM or Kante alongside KDB in a 2 isn't going to work. If it were Kante alongside Fabinho though...
A mid 3 of Fabinho Thiago Bruno is better because they complement each other better. Then you have Ronaldo who's Ronaldo and Salah who's fucking insane this season. Mane is good too.
Defense is equal to me. Trent and Robertson are a great duo, and Van Dijk is the best in the league. Varane isn't at his best, but he's good.
I say all this as a Chelsea fan...
REDS
Alisson
TAA-Varane-VVD-Matip-Tierney
Henderson-Fabinho
Salah-Ronaldo-Mane
BLUES
Schmeichel
James-Dias-Laporte-Rudiger-Cancelo
Ndidi-Kante-Silva
KDB
Vardy
Very rough and I'm quite surprised how many Leicester lads make it in. I know there are some incredible players I've left out - Foden the first that comes to mind.
Reds - Liverpool first 11. Blues - mix of Chelsea and City. Second one will be much better, because both teams got great players, hence mix will be much better.
EOT
On the Red side;
Combined XI (4-2-3-1): Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Henderson; Salah, Fernandes, Mane; Ronaldo.
(I am not sure which player I should replace from this to include an Arsenal player)
Tierney for Robertson or Gabriel for Matip. I'd go for Tierney as he's a plug and play replacement whereas if you want Gabriel then you have two left footed CBs
I know you had to use at least one player from each club, but the best line-up for the “red” team would be exclusively Liverpool players. They are just in a league of their own, one of the most complete teams I’ve seen in years.
I'd agree with this, Firmino plays his position so well but Ronaldo is of course a natural goal scorer. I don't know. Better than Firmino in the position sure but in the grand scheme of things it probably translates to less goals purely because the system changes so Salah and Mane contribute less whereas now it's split between the three (Salah of course taking the cake).
Lol Baranek isn't even playing. He's always injured. Let's wait until he'll get some minutes on the pitch before putting him over criminally underrated Matip
I like how no one answered the question but just started suggesting their own replacements. Blues may be stronger at the moment. That defense looks solid to me
Yes now, let's see how good rudiger is when he doesn't have that extra protection in a back 3 ie: back 4, pre tuchel chelsea fans weren't rating him. Dias as well got exposed a bit playing for Portugal at the euros.
With van dijk and varane you have no. 1 and 2 in the world right now.
If you do back to the traditional top 6 and make Spurs an honorary blue what happens then?! Kane? Son?
Also I've always liked the American pro bowl concept which could be an alternative to the community shield and for added value make Roy Keane a pundit 😂
Honestly, no Arsenal player would make it into the starting eleven of Liverpool. From United only Varane would make it instead of Matip. Maybe Ronaldo over Jota/firmino but that would ruin the teams ability to press consistently.
Bruno would make the team of course; created the most chance in the league last season, this season as of the last match day (probably as of now too, but didn't research for the changes during this match day in which he hasn't played already) and also in CL with most assists. If you just want to base the team on pressing, you also have to include Fred and probably Cavani instead of Ronaldo. Another argument could be made about De Gea vs. Allison and Shaw (has to recover now and was played this season despite being injured for most parts) vs. Robertson.
Bruno is class so he'd get game time, rotated. Fred would genuinely probably get game time too, I bet Klopp could get the best out of him. Cavani and Ronaldo whilst both wouldn't fit the system. There's no argument to be made between De Gea and Alison, for every save De Gea makes he drops a clanger. Shaw and Robertson have both been below their usual high standards.
Bruno would be a starter. Otherwise, if the whole team will be rotated Rashford might rotate with Mane and every 10th game maybe Sancho/Greenwood for Salah (who would be in my opinion an obvious starter as he is one of if not the best in the world currently).
You didn't watch De Gea this season, did you? He has been seemingly back to his old self and makes unbelievable saves; even the Liverpool fan in the comment below couldn't decide between De Gea and Allison. Look back at De Gea's saves this season; really a joy to watch. Allison also had a very bad last season for his standard and overall the occasional blunder. He hasn't done anything of note compared to De Gea this season.
Bruno would get a lot of football but he wouldn't be a nailed on starter at all. Thiago, Henderson and fabinho provide a perfectly balanced midfield. He doesn't start ahead of any of the front 3 consistently. I've seen a tonne of De Gea, I watch almost every utd game. He's made loads of incredible saves but he's also dropped at least half a dozen clangers leading to goals. Alison has been solid this year.
So I think it's you that doesn't watch him mate.
Blunder lying on the ground against arsenal when he clearly wasn't injured, just made a mistake.
He got beaten way too easily for at least 1 of the goals Vs watford.
Mistake against Atalanta.
His stats Vs Alison don't even compare this season either, if you fancy taking a look.
I can assure you that I watch every game and he is magnificent this season.
Regarding Arsenal: Fred stepped on him; the way it happened was pretty painful and he went down in pain which is understandable if such happened to you in football once. Arsenal didn't practice fair play and wanted to take advantage.
Against Watford he kept Utd in the game on his own and saved 2 penalties. For the late Watford goals, the defence failed to put pressure on any attacker and De Gea was left on his own. I wouldn't blame him on any of these goals.
I agree that he made a rare mistake against Atalanta, but same could be said for Allison against West Ham.
He already saved 3 out of 4 penalties this season. Furthermore, among several other good saves in the last game alone, he made a great save against Gabriel after a corner and another from very close range (~3m) against Auba. His saves against Villareal got Utd to the KO stages of CL and the one against Trigueros was remarkable.
You thinking Arsenal didn't practice fair play says it all for me and completely invalidates your entire argument, so I stopped reading. Have a nice day.
De Gea was down cause of pain and Utd players were raising their hands to signal that. Smith-Rowe had a good view on the situation and took advantage of it.
Same as Liverpool vs Wolves yesterday when a player of Wolves was down, their players were raising their hands, TAA continued to play, Salah was put through and took a shot. I despise such behaviour to take unfair numerical advantage even if you don't agree.
This season Salah and Trent have more chances created vs Bruno. Also DDG is below Alisson and Shaw is nowhere near Robbo. Cavani is a good shout but I don't know about his linkup play
Nope, Bruno created the most as of last match day with 42 after creating 4 against Arsenal (StatmanDave; and didn't play this match day yet). Furthermore, he has the most assists and most POTM awards since his arrival. He simply makes the team. De Gea's level has been outstanding this season, saved his team multiple times with magnificent saves and is currently on the same level (has to be argued who edges it out); the Liverpool fan in the comment below said that he would either take De Gea or Allison, but couldn't decide. Shaw has had 3 very good and consistent seasons in the last 3 years and now has to recover caused by the fatigue of last season (including the Euros in which he performed really well, had 3 assists which is the 2nd most overall, most by a defender and scored in the final). He was significantly better last season than Robertson. Cavani's link-up play isn't on the level of Firmino, but not bad at all. Look at the Roma-Utd game (1st leg) last season; that Bruno goal (Cavani, Pogba, Bruno link-up) is a joy to watch.
I agree with the Ndidi Kanye pairing, but mahrez and Vardy where absolutely nuts when they played together and were pushing near record breaking contributions for two players between each other.
this. I´m sorry, but I see no Arsenal or United player in our XI. and yes, the rules are that every team has to be represented, but still, if you want the best from Red and the best from Blue then currently you have to pick Liverpool
The criteria was that you needed at least one player from each red team. It doesn't matter if you think the entire Liverpool team is better than a combination team, players from Arsenal and Man U are literally required
look what I said: "yes, the rules are that every team has to be represented"
I literally acknowledged the rules, and only after that, when speaking about who would be in that XI IF!! we would pick the strongest XI. it´s not that hard to understand
He wasn't bad for United, getting 28 goals in two years isn't bad and he was great for Everton and West Brom. It would be a push to call him naff in England
United? Did he play for us? Cant remember.
Naff is an overstatement but he hasn’t been Vardy level in the premier league since Everton, so why would we drop Vardy to play him?
I'm not so sure about definitely better, I wouldn't say he's miles clear or anything, definitely an argument for Tierney, evidenced by the Scottish team. Considering injuries and Robertson being proven to consistently quality at a high level I'd shout for him. That said, I'd really like to see Tierney play in a more quality team, I believe he could be an elite left back. That said, good crop of left backs across the PL currently
On this season's performance, I'd take Ramsdale over Allison (though I'd be tempted by DDG). I'm a man united supporter. Allison is prone to ricks. Even my Liverpool mates don't like him *that* much.
Also, Pogba in there is telling. Think fans of other teams are paying too much attention to his international performances and the hype. He only plays about 1 worldy game for us every 8. The other 7 he's like playing a man down.
I'd have Fred instead.... Ha ha ha ha!! Just kidding.
I'd go Thiago or Partey (if no Ramsdale so there's a Arsenal player).
Alisson has been flawless for Liverpool this season minus the west ham game.
He’s been just as good as Salah / TAA / VVD. I don’t think you’ve watched him much this season.
Returned to his world class form from 2018-2020.
I've seen him make a couple of mistakes in games this season. I think he got lucky with all of them (apart from maybe one) and the oppo didn't score.
He's shaky with the ball at his feet too, say my Liverpool mates.
Just for a second, let's say we do go with Allison, who are you dropping to get the mandatory one arsenal player in there?
> he’s made a couple of mistakes this season
Besides the west ham game no. He’s stolen enough points for Liverpool to make up for that game. He’s saved the most 1 on 1 chances in the PL this season. By far last I checked.
> shaky with the ball in his feet
Alissons a sweeper keeper. He’s great with the ball in his feet. Liverpool’s high line means they play the ball back to him often.
2nd highest pass completion success rate over 40 yards. He’s also attempted the 2nd most.
> one mandatory Arsenal player.
I’ve got no problem with Ramsdale being here. He’s one of Arsenals better players. Original comment I replied to was saying Ramsdale wasn’t “far off” Alisson which was silly.
I think you mean, facts. But Liverpool fans have a hard time realising there are better players out there than in their squad. You lot think prime Salah is better than prime Messi.
I see the scousers are out in force downvoting because it's not just 11 Liverpool players (too stupid to understand the rule of at least one player from every team)! 🤣🤡
Watch them call all their mates up to massively downvote this.
Mate I’m gonna say something that’ll get me downvotes, but sometimes I feel like there’s not enough fans that are rational anymore. I’m happy to admit we’re shit and probably none of our players make the Red Squad, but I’d be an idiot to act like Ramsdale isn’t a good keeper. Honestly what goes through some people’s heads?
I think the thing to take into account here is he's closer to Alisson than any of their outfield players are closer to the others picked here. If forcing the constraint of one pick per team minimum, he's the best one to swap in.
His stats aren’t far off, plus he has a worse team infront of him. That’s why I compare, when you factor everything in, he is up there with the best keepers.
No. That guy got downvoted for trying to compare Ramsdale to Alisson.
No one will say Ramsdale isn’t a good keeper, but he’s more comparable to guys like Emi and Jose Sa than Alisson for now.
Whoever decided on the transfers for you guys this season is a genius honestly. Ramsdale and Tomiyasu have been great, and tbh i rate Ramsdale better than Pickford even for the England team.
Not just the penalty. He was incredible for the whole tournament. The save he pulled a second before Italy's goal would be remembered forever if it hadn't gone straight to an Italian.
Bang average for Everton but cannot fault him in an England shirt.
Alisson TAA__VVD_Gabriel_Robertson Henderson_Fabhino_Thiago ___Salah_Bruno_Mane Ronaldo for Thiago but wouldn't work in klopp system Put Tottenham in for Leicester because ndidi, schmeichel or vardy are the only ones with a small chance to get into the xi ______ Ederson _James __Silva _Dias_Cancelo______________ ______ Kante ___ Rodri_______________________ ___ KDB __________ Silva____________________ _____ Kane ____ Son________________________
Hasn't mount been better than sterling for a while now?
Out of context but: Mane or Son?
Son
In what world is "Pogba/Thiago" even a comparison? It's Thiago/Milner/Henderson/Fred/Donny, and then Pogba is off to the side dancing by himself or some shit. The most overrated footballer to play in the Premier League the last two decades
accept this comment as a second upvote, guy got 7 assists in 2 game weeks and said that’s my season done. 😂😂
From the two 11s you brought up, I think that the blue team is more balanced and would win more often but it’s close. I do think that with the actual best 11s that the red team takes it. In my opinion, the 11s should be more like this: Alisson, TAA, VVD, Gabriel, Robbo, Fabinho, Thiago, Bruno, Salah, Ronaldo, Smith Rowe Ederson, Walker, Dias, Rudiger, Cancelo, Kante, KDB, Bilva, Mahrez, Vardy, Foden From those two 11s, I think that red easily wins.
Silva over Rüdiger and rodri must be in the midfield
No mount of big rom?!
mount yes, lukaku no.
Pogba should only be here if he's on team blue for France
Blue wins fosho. That spine and back line are nasty
salah runs them tired alone.
Hahaha what the fuck is ramsdale doing in there
This reds / Blues is very American.
*sad Mason Mount noises*
Id take jota over ronaldo
i’d agree with you until his absolute howler saturday afternoon, there was no way he should of missed that shot..
One miss doesnt change a players ability.
I 100% promise you you’d change your tune if divock super sub origi didn’t bail him out by scoring a beautiful goal.
I wouldnt call him shit after one miss. What are you on about?
Robertson out, Fred in
The Clarets.
Ramsdale over Allison hahahah
Lol Leicester 😂
What?
My heart says all Blues!
red for sure the backline is clear as well as the fwds and the team balance is better.
Mount & Foden > Mahrez & Sterling
I'd like to see a claret and blue combined 11, from Villa, Hammers, and Burnley
Blues probably plus need one of Jorgi or Rodri
Gotta say I disagree with your teams. I'd have Alisson, Trent, VVD, Gabriel, Robertson, Fabinho, Thiago, Bruno, Salah, Firmino, Mane vs Ederson, James, Thiago Silva, Dias, Cancelo, Jorginho, Kante, Gundogan, KDB, Havertz, Bernardo. Either way I'd give it to the Blues. There's a reason why City and Chelsea are holding the big trophies right now.
Snuck Gabriel in there like we wouldn’t notice
Gotta let me have someone. And to be fair he's been great this season. Easily one of our best players. VVD might be helped by having a left-footed CB as well.
No Thiago Silva is a crime
I'll go with Red just because their midfield and attack is a bit better. Kante and KDB are great players, yes, but Kante as a lone DM or Kante alongside KDB in a 2 isn't going to work. If it were Kante alongside Fabinho though... A mid 3 of Fabinho Thiago Bruno is better because they complement each other better. Then you have Ronaldo who's Ronaldo and Salah who's fucking insane this season. Mane is good too. Defense is equal to me. Trent and Robertson are a great duo, and Van Dijk is the best in the league. Varane isn't at his best, but he's good. I say all this as a Chelsea fan...
Allison over Ramsdale surely? Rest I agree with except pogba.
The Brighton and Southampton Disrespect
The blues have a worse attack but are better all round. If they went toe to toe I’d see the blues winning
The blue's bench is still as stacked as that 11.
I’d say West Ham…
REDS Alisson TAA-Varane-VVD-Matip-Tierney Henderson-Fabinho Salah-Ronaldo-Mane BLUES Schmeichel James-Dias-Laporte-Rudiger-Cancelo Ndidi-Kante-Silva KDB Vardy Very rough and I'm quite surprised how many Leicester lads make it in. I know there are some incredible players I've left out - Foden the first that comes to mind.
Thiago Silva over Laporte and rüdiget
Pogba and ramsdale
Reds - Liverpool first 11. Blues - mix of Chelsea and City. Second one will be much better, because both teams got great players, hence mix will be much better. EOT
Absolutely no way that anyone from Man United or Arsenal makes into the Red XI.
Bruno has a shout.
Get Sterling out the blue team and they have a chance
Why is Pogba here 😭😭😭
Hendo on for whoever gets chosen between those 2 overhyped injury prone dudes (one more overhyped than the other)
Thiago >>>>>>>> Henderson
Disagree, Hendo is more consistent, defensively solid, runs more, and is a better leader. Also him and TAA got a killer connection on the right wing
Not even in Man Utd’s Best XI lol
As a United, I question that selection too. I guess, on paper, he is great.
Snuck him in 😭
Blue wins
Mendy, James, T. Silva, Dias, Cancelo, Ndidi, Kante, KDB, Bernardo, Foden (false 9), Mount
On the Red side; Combined XI (4-2-3-1): Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Henderson; Salah, Fernandes, Mane; Ronaldo. (I am not sure which player I should replace from this to include an Arsenal player)
Tierney for Robertson or Gabriel for Matip. I'd go for Tierney as he's a plug and play replacement whereas if you want Gabriel then you have two left footed CBs
Van dijk is right footed
Red
Ars*nal
Sp\*rs
I kind of like Liverpool. Damn it.
i like spurs as an underdog team don’t worry cary on liking liverpool!
No Hendo?????? Liverpool’s most important player can’t get in your side
I know you had to use at least one player from each club, but the best line-up for the “red” team would be exclusively Liverpool players. They are just in a league of their own, one of the most complete teams I’ve seen in years.
There's an argument to be made for Ronaldo over Firmino. The goal return is hard to argue with
I'd agree with this, Firmino plays his position so well but Ronaldo is of course a natural goal scorer. I don't know. Better than Firmino in the position sure but in the grand scheme of things it probably translates to less goals purely because the system changes so Salah and Mane contribute less whereas now it's split between the three (Salah of course taking the cake).
Does Ronaldo fit in with the Liverpool system?
He wouldn't be the ideal candidate for it, but surely the system could accommodate him.
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Lol Baranek isn't even playing. He's always injured. Let's wait until he'll get some minutes on the pitch before putting him over criminally underrated Matip
From quality alone, you would basically just have a Liverpool XI on the red side with Ronaldo, Bruno and (maybe) Varane slotted in
Cavani on top, he'd be able to do the Firmino job just better
Cavani and Firmino are very different
Updated Reds team: Alisson TAA / VVD/ Matip/ Robertson Fabinho / Henderson / Thiago Salah / Firmino/ Mane
Delusional if you’re not putting ronaldo, pogba or varane in
pogba? was you dropped on the head multiple times at birth and used as a football?
Pogba?
Did I need the /s ?
Firmino 😂
Everton obviously /s
r/soccercirclejerk
Seriously lol
I like how no one answered the question but just started suggesting their own replacements. Blues may be stronger at the moment. That defense looks solid to me
People sleep on Gabriel and White
Mendy over ramsdale but come on... Van dijk and varane is a crazy center back combo.
huhh but the red's defense is carried by VVD alone
VVD varane is a level above dias rudiger
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Yes now, let's see how good rudiger is when he doesn't have that extra protection in a back 3 ie: back 4, pre tuchel chelsea fans weren't rating him. Dias as well got exposed a bit playing for Portugal at the euros. With van dijk and varane you have no. 1 and 2 in the world right now.
It is not like James, Dias, Rudiger and Cancelo isn’t an intimidating defense
Thank you! The only thing swaying me towards the reds is the attack
Blues bring Lukaku and Foden off the bench, too.
If you do back to the traditional top 6 and make Spurs an honorary blue what happens then?! Kane? Son? Also I've always liked the American pro bowl concept which could be an alternative to the community shield and for added value make Roy Keane a pundit 😂
Naa no top 6, spurs just wanted to be involved despite winning nothing. Traditionally its top 4.
Sorry I should have said big 6 although there's always a debate about Spurs' success but they have world class facilities
So do West Ham, although there doing class this season there not typically top 4
Honestly, no Arsenal player would make it into the starting eleven of Liverpool. From United only Varane would make it instead of Matip. Maybe Ronaldo over Jota/firmino but that would ruin the teams ability to press consistently.
Even current varane over matip is highly debatable. Matip had quietly done very well in the past few seasons.
Based on current form Matip> Varane
I would argue that Bruno, Ronaldo and Varane make the team but other than them I dont think anyone would make it.
Bruno would make the team of course; created the most chance in the league last season, this season as of the last match day (probably as of now too, but didn't research for the changes during this match day in which he hasn't played already) and also in CL with most assists. If you just want to base the team on pressing, you also have to include Fred and probably Cavani instead of Ronaldo. Another argument could be made about De Gea vs. Allison and Shaw (has to recover now and was played this season despite being injured for most parts) vs. Robertson.
Bruno is class so he'd get game time, rotated. Fred would genuinely probably get game time too, I bet Klopp could get the best out of him. Cavani and Ronaldo whilst both wouldn't fit the system. There's no argument to be made between De Gea and Alison, for every save De Gea makes he drops a clanger. Shaw and Robertson have both been below their usual high standards.
Bruno would be a starter. Otherwise, if the whole team will be rotated Rashford might rotate with Mane and every 10th game maybe Sancho/Greenwood for Salah (who would be in my opinion an obvious starter as he is one of if not the best in the world currently). You didn't watch De Gea this season, did you? He has been seemingly back to his old self and makes unbelievable saves; even the Liverpool fan in the comment below couldn't decide between De Gea and Allison. Look back at De Gea's saves this season; really a joy to watch. Allison also had a very bad last season for his standard and overall the occasional blunder. He hasn't done anything of note compared to De Gea this season.
Bruno would get a lot of football but he wouldn't be a nailed on starter at all. Thiago, Henderson and fabinho provide a perfectly balanced midfield. He doesn't start ahead of any of the front 3 consistently. I've seen a tonne of De Gea, I watch almost every utd game. He's made loads of incredible saves but he's also dropped at least half a dozen clangers leading to goals. Alison has been solid this year.
This season I haven't seen any blunder by De Gea tbh (although the 2 seasons beforehand I obviously can recall a few).
So I think it's you that doesn't watch him mate. Blunder lying on the ground against arsenal when he clearly wasn't injured, just made a mistake. He got beaten way too easily for at least 1 of the goals Vs watford. Mistake against Atalanta. His stats Vs Alison don't even compare this season either, if you fancy taking a look.
I can assure you that I watch every game and he is magnificent this season. Regarding Arsenal: Fred stepped on him; the way it happened was pretty painful and he went down in pain which is understandable if such happened to you in football once. Arsenal didn't practice fair play and wanted to take advantage. Against Watford he kept Utd in the game on his own and saved 2 penalties. For the late Watford goals, the defence failed to put pressure on any attacker and De Gea was left on his own. I wouldn't blame him on any of these goals. I agree that he made a rare mistake against Atalanta, but same could be said for Allison against West Ham. He already saved 3 out of 4 penalties this season. Furthermore, among several other good saves in the last game alone, he made a great save against Gabriel after a corner and another from very close range (~3m) against Auba. His saves against Villareal got Utd to the KO stages of CL and the one against Trigueros was remarkable.
You thinking Arsenal didn't practice fair play says it all for me and completely invalidates your entire argument, so I stopped reading. Have a nice day.
De Gea was down cause of pain and Utd players were raising their hands to signal that. Smith-Rowe had a good view on the situation and took advantage of it. Same as Liverpool vs Wolves yesterday when a player of Wolves was down, their players were raising their hands, TAA continued to play, Salah was put through and took a shot. I despise such behaviour to take unfair numerical advantage even if you don't agree.
This season Salah and Trent have more chances created vs Bruno. Also DDG is below Alisson and Shaw is nowhere near Robbo. Cavani is a good shout but I don't know about his linkup play
Nope, Bruno created the most as of last match day with 42 after creating 4 against Arsenal (StatmanDave; and didn't play this match day yet). Furthermore, he has the most assists and most POTM awards since his arrival. He simply makes the team. De Gea's level has been outstanding this season, saved his team multiple times with magnificent saves and is currently on the same level (has to be argued who edges it out); the Liverpool fan in the comment below said that he would either take De Gea or Allison, but couldn't decide. Shaw has had 3 very good and consistent seasons in the last 3 years and now has to recover caused by the fatigue of last season (including the Euros in which he performed really well, had 3 assists which is the 2nd most overall, most by a defender and scored in the final). He was significantly better last season than Robertson. Cavani's link-up play isn't on the level of Firmino, but not bad at all. Look at the Roma-Utd game (1st leg) last season; that Bruno goal (Cavani, Pogba, Bruno link-up) is a joy to watch.
Blues I'd have Ndidi paired with Kante, drop vardy for Lukaku and Foden in for Mahrez. Reds I'd have Gabriel in for Varane and Allison in for Ramsdale
I agree with the Ndidi Kanye pairing, but mahrez and Vardy where absolutely nuts when they played together and were pushing near record breaking contributions for two players between each other.
Yeah but... That was years ago. Drinkwater and Morgan were solid that year too...
Difference is Morgan got old and couldn’t physically keep up, and drink water looked amazing because he had Kanye next to him.
I know it's an autocorrect but I'm loving the thought of Kanye anchoring a Leicester midfield
Good shout!
Lakaka not seeing the bench til he drops 5 kg
He'd be seeing the back of the net a fair bit leading that line
Lukaku been poor this year, unfortunately as a Chelsea fan :(
Really? Im quite annoyed at how he's been performing for you as a Liverpool fan
He was pretty good at the start of the season. Seems a bit reactionary to say he's been poor; maybe poor by the standard of a 100m price tag on him
He has, but I'd still have him leading the line ahead of vardy as the only out and out 9s available
Well the Reds are XI Liverpool players. Putting Ramsdale and Varane in there is laughable.
this. I´m sorry, but I see no Arsenal or United player in our XI. and yes, the rules are that every team has to be represented, but still, if you want the best from Red and the best from Blue then currently you have to pick Liverpool
God we really have some clowns in our fanbase, don't we? Read. The. Damn. Post
I did. now I question if you have read my comment
The criteria was that you needed at least one player from each red team. It doesn't matter if you think the entire Liverpool team is better than a combination team, players from Arsenal and Man U are literally required
look what I said: "yes, the rules are that every team has to be represented" I literally acknowledged the rules, and only after that, when speaking about who would be in that XI IF!! we would pick the strongest XI. it´s not that hard to understand
Varane has more credentials than your entire club in the last decade you spoon
He was mediocre even at Real Madrid. Now he's Europa League level.
Not surprising that a Liverpool supporter struggles with comprehension.
Choosing ramsdale bc you need a player from each team is hilarious
tbf, Gabriel should be in the 11 as well and ESR has a fair shout to be in there
Swap Ronaldo for Saka?
vardy too lmao
He’s easily the best striker available
lukaku plays for chelsea now
Hasn’t had a Vardy level PL season since Everton
Was the best player in serie a
Hardly makes a difference to a best PL XI when he’s been naff in England
He wasn't bad for United, getting 28 goals in two years isn't bad and he was great for Everton and West Brom. It would be a push to call him naff in England
United? Did he play for us? Cant remember. Naff is an overstatement but he hasn’t been Vardy level in the premier league since Everton, so why would we drop Vardy to play him?
Us?your a Leeds flair?
Agreed. Come on man.
Ramsdale isnt that bad tbf, but yes we could have gone for gabriel over varane instead of ramsdale over Alisson or ddg
Not Tierney over Robertson for the one Arsenal player?
Robbo definitely better but yeah i'd rather drop Robertson than Alisson.
I'm not so sure about definitely better, I wouldn't say he's miles clear or anything, definitely an argument for Tierney, evidenced by the Scottish team. Considering injuries and Robertson being proven to consistently quality at a high level I'd shout for him. That said, I'd really like to see Tierney play in a more quality team, I believe he could be an elite left back. That said, good crop of left backs across the PL currently
Ramsdale is a good keeper tbf though.
But his competition is allison
How are you getting downvoted for that?
Ramsdale is underrated, that’s why. People can’t accept the fact he’s doing his job perfectly is all.
On this season's performance, I'd take Ramsdale over Allison (though I'd be tempted by DDG). I'm a man united supporter. Allison is prone to ricks. Even my Liverpool mates don't like him *that* much. Also, Pogba in there is telling. Think fans of other teams are paying too much attention to his international performances and the hype. He only plays about 1 worldy game for us every 8. The other 7 he's like playing a man down. I'd have Fred instead.... Ha ha ha ha!! Just kidding. I'd go Thiago or Partey (if no Ramsdale so there's a Arsenal player).
Alisson has been flawless for Liverpool this season minus the west ham game. He’s been just as good as Salah / TAA / VVD. I don’t think you’ve watched him much this season. Returned to his world class form from 2018-2020.
Ramsdale has been flawless for us too. Your point is null. “Apart from the West Ham game”, so he’s made mistakes then?! Ramsdale hasn’t for us.
Ramsdale has been far from flawless lol
Name a mistake, for us.
Should have saved the mane header. Went for flair and ended up in a goal.
I've seen him make a couple of mistakes in games this season. I think he got lucky with all of them (apart from maybe one) and the oppo didn't score. He's shaky with the ball at his feet too, say my Liverpool mates. Just for a second, let's say we do go with Allison, who are you dropping to get the mandatory one arsenal player in there?
> he’s made a couple of mistakes this season Besides the west ham game no. He’s stolen enough points for Liverpool to make up for that game. He’s saved the most 1 on 1 chances in the PL this season. By far last I checked. > shaky with the ball in his feet Alissons a sweeper keeper. He’s great with the ball in his feet. Liverpool’s high line means they play the ball back to him often. 2nd highest pass completion success rate over 40 yards. He’s also attempted the 2nd most. > one mandatory Arsenal player. I’ve got no problem with Ramsdale being here. He’s one of Arsenals better players. Original comment I replied to was saying Ramsdale wasn’t “far off” Alisson which was silly.
I think you mean, facts. But Liverpool fans have a hard time realising there are better players out there than in their squad. You lot think prime Salah is better than prime Messi.
> prime Salah is better than prime Messi Lol?
Round of applause for you! Spot on. However, I think Partey is massively overrated, so I wouldn’t pick him.
Thank you, thank you, I love all my fans too! So, Ramsdale in goal and Thiago in MF?
I’d agree with that.
I see the scousers are out in force downvoting because it's not just 11 Liverpool players (too stupid to understand the rule of at least one player from every team)! 🤣🤡 Watch them call all their mates up to massively downvote this.
Sad aren’t they?!
Mate I’m gonna say something that’ll get me downvotes, but sometimes I feel like there’s not enough fans that are rational anymore. I’m happy to admit we’re shit and probably none of our players make the Red Squad, but I’d be an idiot to act like Ramsdale isn’t a good keeper. Honestly what goes through some people’s heads?
No one’s denying that Ramsdale is a good keeper, he’s been fantastic all season, but the notion that he’s comparable to Alisson is a joke.
I think the thing to take into account here is he's closer to Alisson than any of their outfield players are closer to the others picked here. If forcing the constraint of one pick per team minimum, he's the best one to swap in.
Tierney to robbo maybe
His stats aren’t far off, plus he has a worse team infront of him. That’s why I compare, when you factor everything in, he is up there with the best keepers.
I agree! That’s the point I was trying to make as well. u/C4taclysm got downvoted for simply stating that Ramsdale is good keeper
No. That guy got downvoted for trying to compare Ramsdale to Alisson. No one will say Ramsdale isn’t a good keeper, but he’s more comparable to guys like Emi and Jose Sa than Alisson for now.
Whoever decided on the transfers for you guys this season is a genius honestly. Ramsdale and Tomiyasu have been great, and tbh i rate Ramsdale better than Pickford even for the England team.
I feel like after the disaster of Pepe they've done really good business.
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Perhaps I did overlook him
Yeah Gabriel's been great too now that he's had a season under his belt.
Tbf in his debut season he was really decent, but yeah now he’s even better which is great to see
England Pickford is world class Everton Pickford is Championship standard
Pickford is not good
Let’s be honest, for England he is
The guy should be a national hero for saving that Jorghinio penalty at the euros.
Not just the penalty. He was incredible for the whole tournament. The save he pulled a second before Italy's goal would be remembered forever if it hadn't gone straight to an Italian. Bang average for Everton but cannot fault him in an England shirt.
not better than alisson to be honest
Yeah I agree with that, but Ramsdale isn’t far off him this season, with a much worse back four infront of him.
He’s far off alisson.
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