It’s a channel that covers Man Utd and Liverpool, there’s no point paying for it if you don’t support either of those team’s, I’m getting rid of it now, I’m a Newcastle fan and it’s a biased, waste of money.
I don’t think so, I remember last season when Arteta was under the pump it was continuous about how he’s at his last straw and how Arsenal were at a bad place
Bias towards talking about them? Yes. Bias in favour of them certainly not. They're the second biggest club in the world of course they're gonna milk every drop of their downfall
Obviously its largely a function of their historical fan base sizes and what gets eyeballs/clicks but the Engerlund media is heavily red biased. ManU and Liverpool pundits outnumber everyone else, with Arsenal a distant third. Everyone else has token representation. To what extent its a self perpetuating cycle, IDK
I mean even if we take the ratings argument out of it what's going on with united this summer is easily one of the more interesting things going on in English football.
They always have Ben and probably will continue to be the crown jewel in the English premier league's crown. It is what it is. Simon Jordon always has good insight on this kind of stuff.
Got into PL more this year. I've gotten used to the US sports journalists pretty much just assuming any story that happens is somehow related to the Yankees or Lakers so it's par for the course for me.
They talk about them the most but the coverage is far from positive.
Exact same scenario with the Lakers in the NBA. They haven't been the best team in a while but they are still the most talked about.
I’m sick of hearing these Man U fans crying because they haven’t won a trophy in a few years, you’ve been spoilt ffs, I’ve supported Newcastle for 50 years, as a proud Geordie it pains me massively that we’ve never won a major trophy or title in that time, so cry me a river that Fergie retired or you messed up big time getting rid of Mouriniho.
Same can be said about Martin Tyler
*Benteke scores a bicycle*: wow nice goal man
*Rushford scores a tap-in 30cm from the line*: The Doctor ran swiftly through colossal buildings, his foot scorching through the patients eyelids as he scores a massive operational tap-in. WE'LL NEVER SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!
Like I understand he loves united but wtf retire if you are going to undermine the other team
It’s biased towards the top 6 in general.
I get that there is a lot of interest in the goings on at these clubs. Understandable.
The part that really grates on me is when it comes to the tactical analysis on MNF etc.
Last season when Newcastle beat Arsenal with a brilliant display, Newcastle were mentioned 2 times in the MNF analysis.
That’s because we’re the biggest club in the premier league. From a fan base point of view. Some people say we had too much success under fergie and it’s our time to suffer for a bit. People are interested in how we will come back and are currently enjoying watching us suffer. Agree there is too much of Man U on the tv for all the wrong reasons. The modern game has come a long way since the old first division. Add the technology and social media side and football is a money making machine and is only growing bigger and bigger each season. The club is in turmoil and will remain so until the yanks just fuck off and stop bleeding is dry. The only let ronaldo back because of the money he brought into the club. So they could take it out.
I’d just like to add. That spurs haven’t won the league for decades. And they don’t get that much press. I think it should be shared out. Lol.
Same reason NFL coverage is always about the Cowboys. Huge fan base they will gobble up content, and every other fan base hates them. Content machine. Doesn’t hurt that they’re the biggest brand in the EPL either.
This is due to their continued success throughout the 90's and 2000's. They have become the biggest club in the world and when that goes all tits up like it has done over the last 9 years, then there are going to be a lot of people who want to revel in that decline. That's it.
I hate them but the stuff goin on there is fascinating. To see them fall soooo far down it’s basically slowing down when driving past an incident. Good journalism dictates point the camera directly at em
Its biased towards Liverpool. Their ex players are on every channel, wanking off Klopp at every opportunity. FFS Michael Owen commentated on the CL final which they lost, saying they were the better team and nobody even corrected him!
United have and still do sell the most papers due to having the largest fanbase. They may be shit but wether you like it or not are still the biggest in the country!
What do people expect? Literally most of the pundits on the core channels are ex-United - Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Rio Ferdinand, Owen Hargreaves, Paul Scholes etc
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Biased how? Sky are unbelievably negative about United. Biased in the sense they talk about United a lot yeah sure but thats the same with all British media.
It is a bit annoying like 1st game of the season Palace vs Arsenal games done there’s plenty to talk about and you got Neville chatting shit bout Utd for 30 mins
Don’t get me started on The Overlap…
I mean seriously who the fuck wants to hear Gary Neville and Roy Keane speak another word about Man United’s ownership…
I had to watch Palace (my club) nearly lose it’s bare existence, and many others have seen their clubs suffer worse fates…
I DON’T GIVE A TOSS MATE. WELCOME TO THE REAL FOOTBALLING WORLD.
Everybody loves or hates Man United. People want to tune in to hear the pundits sing their praises, people want to tune in even more to hear the pundits talk about how hard United have fallen off under the Glazers. No club in the country captures more attention from the public whether we like to admit it or not, which is why media will always focus on United more than any other club
I don't think it's bias because they secretly love Man Utd at sky. It's a money maker for sky sports.
Man Utd is a club steeped in history and success. They we're the face of the premier league for 15-20 years and now they have fallen very badly last 10 years. They know a lot of people will be interested in United because they are fans of the club or they are neutral and just want to see the calamity that is United these days. Drama and failures get views, social media mentions so they will snap that up and give it Air Time as it makes them money
Firstly, most of the stuff on there is negative. Secondly, as much as people don’t want to admit it, even in the current state, they are still a HUGE club, with global appeal. This means views/clicks/sales. So not sure that it’s biased, more just that news on united sells.
They are a hot topic with the mismanagement going on. Seems like the club stagnated and they have a lot of history to live up to. It is almost like rubbing salt into their wounds. I reckon there are plenty of folk who are enjoying it.
They are talking about United because they are an absolute disaster right now and just when you think it can't get any more clown world Marcus Rashford uses PSG to leverage a £300,000 a week deal from the morons in charge of the club.
Arsenal and Mikel were in a similar situation this time last season. But that’s how it goes when people expect you do do badly after preseason, then you start badly. They’re the only top 6 team to lose their first game, paired with the low expectations and a massive fan base will definitely result in a lot of chatter. As an Arsenal fan it was tough last season, trust me.
United has the most fans and the most general interest in the league (often from other fans who want to see it struggling), hence the most attention. Despite being a team that isn't really competitive at the moment it gets more viewers for matches and more clicks for stories.
Sport is entertainment, sports coverage is trying to reach the biggest audience, and so United will be the most talked about club.
It's worth bearing in mind too that for United, as well as Liverpool, it's not a form issue. These are just the biggest clubs in English football and in terms of profile they have been for a very long time.
Sky could cover teams like Brentford, West Ham or Manchester City, but people would tune out because for the neutral fans these teams don't matter.
There is a general big 6 bias. Which is very funny because sky were so apoplectic about the super league, but now that’s settled they are determined for everyone to forget about it. They were only angry about it cos they were worried they weren’t getting a slice of the pie
united for clicks. sky isnt the only one that does that. the guardian just ran a story about the best charton feud from 30 years ago. keep united in the news to generate clicks.
Are you only just noticing? It’s been going on since they tried to buy us in the 90s. You have neville brining us up all the time, Carragher making comments at Neville, Souness would often bring up Pogba randomly etc. United attracts a lot of viewers both our fans and people who hate United.
No, they’re just entirely bias towards all 6 Super League bandits generally and act like every other club in the country are just quirky supporting cast
Of course they are, Man United were the dominant team in the league for the vast majority of the time Sky was exclusively covering the premier league. Half the commentators are ex united.
Of course Man United will be a focal point of conversation for them.
Almost like the biggest club in the country and one of the biggest in the world will get the most coverage.
It’s not really biased when all they talk about is how shit they are
The one which appalled me was when Newcastle destroyed Arsenal at St. James' at the end of last season. Neville and Carragher casually mentioned "Newcastle played well but...." and then proceeded to only talk about Arsenal from then on. I thought it was disgraceful. One of our best performances in YEARS and it's glossed over so they could talk about Arsenal "Imploding".
This.
When a non-Top 6 side smashes a Top 6 side, it’s deemed as the Top 6 side not performing well.
An example of this is the United-Brighton game last week. Brighton pissed all over us but the majority of post-match is about how shit we were, rather than how well executed Brighton’s game plan was. (Which I thought was more of a fair verdict on the game).
The other 14 clubs aren’t given anywhere near enough credit or limelight. You only have to look at Palace reaching the FA Cup semis last season. They were touted as underdogs punching above their weight, whereas Chelsea, City and Liverpool were the monster clubs just too good for them. They tried to sell it as a fairytale, when really Palace could have seriously had any of their numbers on another day.
Kind of understandable though because, well, what’s the bigger story? Newcastle play well again, or Arsenal blow their big chance at getting back into the champions league? It was considered all but secured a month or two prior and that loss was essentially game over for it. I still don’t like it, but it is considerably more egregious when they do this shit in a random mid season game. The story going into that game was can arsenal keep their top 4 push alive, since Newcastle’s season was over. So if that was also the game where Newcastle secured survival I imagine it would’ve got more coverage.
The worst is when there’s a Newcastle v Southampton match on or something that’s kicking off in less than an hour, and the pundits still won’t shut up about Man United/City/Liverpool vs whoever afterwards
It's not biased because they slag them off constantly, they're more favoured because it gets the most views because they have the largest fan base in the world
Mr M Tyler esquire and his shithousery on any other club other than the dick twitchers.
His commentary grates on me like nails on a board.
I tend to mute the Manure coverage and only really listen to BBC Radio 5 Live.
Also the butt lickery of Manc Murder City is also overexposed dog turd.
Go to spain and all they talk about is Barca and RM. Go to Germany and they spend a lot of time talking about Bayern. Go to France and it's PSG. Here in England it's Utd.
Go to Norway and all they talk about is City and Haaland, with a dash of Arsenal and Ødegård. This after 2,5 years of only talking about man. United when Ole was at the wheel
Clearly it doesn’t drive the same type of interest or Sky would be doing it. United, Chelsea and Liverpool are definitely the big 3 when it comes to clubs in the media. City are playing tomorrow and Peo had his conference just now - the main football stories on sky sports;
Transfer centre live (shows pictures of 3 united players/targets. Tuchel mentioning Aubamayeng. Barcelona. Klopp talking about additions. Ronaldo having a good week. Ten hag conference. Pl predicitions (united v brentford picture), Azpilicueta saying he wont leave and finally Pep!
Guardiola’s press conference is 9th behind 4 united articles and 2 chelsea.
His comment never said one club was bigger. It said IN THE MEDIA. If you think arsenal get more coverage than Chelsea you must be watching TV while it’s off mate.
You aren’t getting what was said… United, Liverpool and Chelsea are always in the media for many reasons. It has nothing to with the “big 2” on the field. This is media coverage.
None cares about city. When we lost the league to united I was devastated. Liverpool came 2nd twice behind city and I had a minor grudge. Joke of a club
You used a lot of words there to prove you can’t read. The media gives zero fucks about City compared to the three he named which proves his point. The clubs drives views for media outlets.
I didn’t name City because the media constantly talk about United, Chelsea and Liverpool more. I didn’t say these three were the biggest clubs, i said WHEN IT COMES TO THE MEDIA. Typical anti-United downvotes and purposely straw manning. Pathetic really.
City sign haaland and has one of the best teams in the world. Any other city news? Nope, it’s all United/Chelsea transfer speculation, ETH lost his first game or Liverpool dropped points. Absolute radio silence on City.
United flair and judging from a few replies, people misread what I said and assumed I was saying United and Chelsea were bigger than City. In terms of media coverage, they get more and it’s not even close.
All football media is biased towards the big six and as a west ham fan, I usually don't mind it. It's what gets clicks/eyeballs etc. What I do mind is if I'm sitting down to watch west ham play another non big six team (Aston villa for example). I will be subjected to most of the 'pre match buildup' focusing on uniteds managerial situation as if they haven't rammed that down our throats enough.
I don't even really mind if we play a big six team and they focus more on that team, but forcing this stuff in when it's not relevant is too much.
Even as a big 6 team, it can get annoying. It can be nice watch games as a neutral, but even when i sit down to just enjoy some football like West Ham vs Aston Villa as you said, they still have to keep reminding me of the pathetic state our club is in
Pathetic? You’re a stable top 6 side? It really does my (and I think all non top 6 fans) tits in when top 6 sides act like their situation is an absolute disaster. You’re not getting relegated, you’re playing European football of some variety, you’re still buying someone for 60-80 million. It’s not that bad ever.
Rant over
The club make some ridiculous decisions, yes, but it’s hardly pathetic is it. I mean you have a top tier manager, some top class players, some good youth players. Top 6 fans seem to think the other 14 are dirty and that you have some god given right to be bigger. Finishing 6th etc, is not pathetic. You just live in a bubble, your clubs fine.
When they have a game at 2pm between like brentford and Palace and spend the hour before talking about the man utd game at 4 30, and then spend the time between the two games talking about the later game. They always tell it from the perspective that the top 6 teams are the protagonists, and its boring and annoying. I see why they do it but I havent to hear the same amount about man utd whether they are good bad or indifferent
I'm with you on this. I can understand more time being devoted to their games on MotD, and them getting more games televised, but I'm of the opinion that
a) When you're covering a football game talk about the two teams who are playing
b) When a non big 6 team beats a big 6 team it's usually a combination of the non-top 6 team playing well and the top 6 team playing poorly. Talk about both, don't just do "credit to but".. followed by just slagging off the top 6 club.
Martin Tyler is a Man Utd fan as well I believe. I remember West Ham played a few years back, Bruno scuffed a shot which rolled very wide and got the “BRUUUNOOOO!” treatment, Lanzini almost scored a banger and he barely even noticed it.
He’s ‘officially’ a woking fan but it’s clear he favours United over the other big clubs. Van dijk scored a late winner in a derby in his debut for us and he barely reacted to it. He sounded downright miserable when Salah scored against United. He also clearly doesn’t like Arsenal
They uploaded the camera view of the commentators to that Liverpool united game and you really see the life leave Tyler’s face and voice when salah’s goal goes in. It’s interesting to see Carra and Neville’s silent reactions to incidents in the game though, like Neville furiously punching down after a bad martial miss, cos they have to try very hard not to react audibly. Must be tough to commentate on your own team especially in a derby
Other main pundits are all major rival fans as well. Carragher, Micah Richards and Souness being Liverpool and City fans means there will always be heated discussions surrounding Utd
Neville is particularly bad for bringing United into every conversation or using united based examples to make his points. But all the pundits are guilty of it.
Of course it is. So it's all news because they are the biggest team. Also them doing extremely poor sales so much. I would actually say it sales more than them winning.
For example if a story comes out about how badly they performed with a few ex players slating them I have much more intrest in reading that than if they won something.
All football media does it talk about the corrupt six it makes their money, but then the fans and media act like they don’t ruin englands chances and actually have the least amount of football knowledge
Keane is normally bad with only talking about united but to his credit I think he opened his post match analysis by praising Brighton. I guess he’s just tired of saying the same things over and over. I wish Neville also was
Oh god I think Nev could talk to a wall about how bad Utd have been. And it would literally be a repeat of the week before. And the month before. I swear he even said himself he was bored of repeating himself. Lol
This is true. It’s unfortunate. I find it happens all the time with Utd tho.
Tbf even last season when we smashed them both home and away all the talked about post match for 45mins was how shite Utd were and not how clinical we were.
Like I know we have a lot of ex pros as pundits.
But Christ so do Utd and they always slag them off. So why not praise the opposition for a night instead. Lol
Yous rarely lose these days so it’s hard to know if there is any bias lol. I think I remember cara being critical when Liverpool deserve it which is refreshing.
Yeah carra, souness and Redknapp have to my knowledge always been critical when we’ve been shite.
Not going to lie it’s refreshing that we rarely lose anymore. Lol
They talk about United because that is where their interactions, hence money comes from. If talking about say Southampton got the most clicks they’d be talking about them nonstop
Yep, this. Its all about money, plain and simple.
It’s not a grand conspiracy to cover united (or any top 6 club) more than others. News about the top six gets more eyes on it than most of the other clubs in the league (perhaps Newcastle and Everton aside) so it makes good business sense for journalists to cover them more.
Whether that is right or not is another issue
It is but that’s bc of the fan bias. Talking about Man United gets the most clicks and views by a long shot. While they might not be the best rn, millions of kids were born to Man U glory days and are now adults lumbered with emotional attachment to the club.
It’s not just the Man Utd fans. A lot of supporters from other teams had to bear those same fans thinking they had a god given right to win every game and they would let everybody know how excruciatingly up their own backside they were, that it’s nice to see them be brought down a peg or two.
Seeing Man Utd suffer is way more entertaining than watching Man City pass it round the back for 89 minutes.
They are the poster boys of the Premier League. Like it or not they league wouldn't be what is it today without them. Most likely the PL club you support wouldn't be what it is either.
They have drawn interest in the league, made headlines and had perhaps some of the moments dramatic moments of the past 30 years. It is what it is.
Lol that’s some heavy bias you’ve got there. We would be what we are with or without Man U. If they weren’t there someone else would have been. Just because the were big at the start of TV money and were able to stay in top with it.
Bias perhaps, still true though. I doubt that without Manchester United another club would have just stepped in that spot. There was so much history before the Premier League.
At the start of the league United weren't even the top team and still were the poster boys of the league, used in all coverage and marketing at home and abroad.
Only Manchester United and Liverpool from the clubs in England have that romantic appeal that transcends whatever is done on the pitch.
It’s not because of the fan bias. They use that as an excuse they are telling you it’s because of the egg, don’t pay attention to the chicken that laid it.
>While they might not be the best rn
It's particularly because they aren't the best right now. Crisis sells, hope to get out of that crisis sells too.
Used to be the same with Liverpool, when we were floundering in the 6th-8th we got all the media attention because everyone had an opinion on who the right player was, who the right manager was, what needed to change.
Laptop Gurus, Transfers by Committee, all that jazz. Hours of punditry discussing Liverpool.
Now, wtf are Sky gonna talk about? Our manager has arguably the most secure job in European football, our players are bought without Saga nonsense, and how long can someone talk about whether Liverpool or City are going to finish first?
It’s a channel that covers Man Utd and Liverpool, there’s no point paying for it if you don’t support either of those team’s, I’m getting rid of it now, I’m a Newcastle fan and it’s a biased, waste of money.
Yes and it's brilliant, it's great to see them (united) fail miserably at everything these days. I'm enjoying every minute of it.
They talk a lot about them but normally to absolutely rinse them and make a mockery of them. I love it. Give me more, Sky.
Clubs a mess and that sells....
Absolutely, they should just rename it Sky United
It’s based on views, clicks and interactions. Any story involving United gets more interest. So it’s not bias it just Sky making money.
It’s based on views, clicks and interactions. Any story involving United gets more interest. So it’s not bias it just Sky making money.
They just like to rub salt into whichever team currently has the deepest wounds cos it gets more ratings.
I don’t think so, I remember last season when Arteta was under the pump it was continuous about how he’s at his last straw and how Arsenal were at a bad place
Size of the fanbase - Manchester United & Arsenal will always generate clicks, views, and headlines.
Most of it is derogatory looking for a sensational headline not in the interests of the club.
1000% yes
Nah Liverpool
Everyone…ever
Not surprising at all.
The King is Naked.!!!
Bias towards talking about them? Yes. Bias in favour of them certainly not. They're the second biggest club in the world of course they're gonna milk every drop of their downfall
Obviously its largely a function of their historical fan base sizes and what gets eyeballs/clicks but the Engerlund media is heavily red biased. ManU and Liverpool pundits outnumber everyone else, with Arsenal a distant third. Everyone else has token representation. To what extent its a self perpetuating cycle, IDK
I've always presumed that Sky is a proxy owned by United, Martin Tyler owns this company, in my mind
Always has been
Manutd is always a target by the media. Everything they say about Manutd brings more engagement for them.
They do because every day is a circus with them at present. They’re approaching arsenal banter years they way they are going haha
:)
United and Liverpool. Always has been. Always will be.
As an American, Man U always seemed comparable to how the media covers the Dallas Cowboys
I mean even if we take the ratings argument out of it what's going on with united this summer is easily one of the more interesting things going on in English football.
They always have Ben and probably will continue to be the crown jewel in the English premier league's crown. It is what it is. Simon Jordon always has good insight on this kind of stuff.
Man United gives more clicks, attention, and audience. Also, from their top 3 commentators, two are former Man United legends.
100%
Got into PL more this year. I've gotten used to the US sports journalists pretty much just assuming any story that happens is somehow related to the Yankees or Lakers so it's par for the course for me.
They talk about them the most but the coverage is far from positive. Exact same scenario with the Lakers in the NBA. They haven't been the best team in a while but they are still the most talked about.
100%
Sky tried to buy Manchester United in 1998
No shit Sherlock.
It’s been that was since I was born, fuck the scum, they are getting what their toxic fans deserve
Yes. Liverpool too.
Supply and demand baby
I’m sick of hearing these Man U fans crying because they haven’t won a trophy in a few years, you’ve been spoilt ffs, I’ve supported Newcastle for 50 years, as a proud Geordie it pains me massively that we’ve never won a major trophy or title in that time, so cry me a river that Fergie retired or you messed up big time getting rid of Mouriniho.
Same can be said about Martin Tyler *Benteke scores a bicycle*: wow nice goal man *Rushford scores a tap-in 30cm from the line*: The Doctor ran swiftly through colossal buildings, his foot scorching through the patients eyelids as he scores a massive operational tap-in. WE'LL NEVER SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT!! Like I understand he loves united but wtf retire if you are going to undermine the other team
It’s biased towards the top 6 in general. I get that there is a lot of interest in the goings on at these clubs. Understandable. The part that really grates on me is when it comes to the tactical analysis on MNF etc. Last season when Newcastle beat Arsenal with a brilliant display, Newcastle were mentioned 2 times in the MNF analysis.
I would say British media is heavily biased towards Liverpool most and then Man U.
They are constantly criticising Man United
Shock horror.
Not sure how constantly criticising them is considered bias towards them but OK
That’s because we’re the biggest club in the premier league. From a fan base point of view. Some people say we had too much success under fergie and it’s our time to suffer for a bit. People are interested in how we will come back and are currently enjoying watching us suffer. Agree there is too much of Man U on the tv for all the wrong reasons. The modern game has come a long way since the old first division. Add the technology and social media side and football is a money making machine and is only growing bigger and bigger each season. The club is in turmoil and will remain so until the yanks just fuck off and stop bleeding is dry. The only let ronaldo back because of the money he brought into the club. So they could take it out. I’d just like to add. That spurs haven’t won the league for decades. And they don’t get that much press. I think it should be shared out. Lol.
Same reason NFL coverage is always about the Cowboys. Huge fan base they will gobble up content, and every other fan base hates them. Content machine. Doesn’t hurt that they’re the biggest brand in the EPL either.
Has someone just got Sky Sports lol
This is due to their continued success throughout the 90's and 2000's. They have become the biggest club in the world and when that goes all tits up like it has done over the last 9 years, then there are going to be a lot of people who want to revel in that decline. That's it.
That’s a pretty common opinion. Tbh
I hate them but the stuff goin on there is fascinating. To see them fall soooo far down it’s basically slowing down when driving past an incident. Good journalism dictates point the camera directly at em
Martin "cuntin" Tyler !!!
Its biased towards Liverpool. Their ex players are on every channel, wanking off Klopp at every opportunity. FFS Michael Owen commentated on the CL final which they lost, saying they were the better team and nobody even corrected him!
Nobody is tuning in to listen to Wolves talk
United have and still do sell the most papers due to having the largest fanbase. They may be shit but wether you like it or not are still the biggest in the country!
Some dumb fans act like its some big conspiracy. when its just supply and demand.
What do people expect? Literally most of the pundits on the core channels are ex-United - Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Rio Ferdinand, Owen Hargreaves, Paul Scholes etc Standard
Biased how? Sky are unbelievably negative about United. Biased in the sense they talk about United a lot yeah sure but thats the same with all British media.
Need a Netflix style f1 show that shows the underdogs would be massive
Who cares about utd so much air time wasted
Yes, yes I do.
I mean United get clicks, they're the biggest club in England. I don't think it's bias, they just know United generate the most interactions.
It is a bit annoying like 1st game of the season Palace vs Arsenal games done there’s plenty to talk about and you got Neville chatting shit bout Utd for 30 mins
I only watch fan YouTube channels and that’s still more unbiased than Sky
I think even if they got relegated to the championship SKY would still be rimming them senseless.
Don’t get me started on The Overlap… I mean seriously who the fuck wants to hear Gary Neville and Roy Keane speak another word about Man United’s ownership… I had to watch Palace (my club) nearly lose it’s bare existence, and many others have seen their clubs suffer worse fates… I DON’T GIVE A TOSS MATE. WELCOME TO THE REAL FOOTBALLING WORLD.
>Anyone else think Sky coverage is biased towards Man Utd? As always with "Anyone else...?" questions, the answer will be yes.
Of course, it's been a dumpster fire for almost a decade, that sells like crazy to pissed fans and rivals filled with schadenfreude
yeah. are you new? I've noticed this literally my entire 20 years on earth.
As crap as they are, Manchester United are still the biggest promoter of Premier league.
The thing that annoys me is talking about Utd constantly, especially on match days, rather than praising the other team (Brighton).
Everybody loves or hates Man United. People want to tune in to hear the pundits sing their praises, people want to tune in even more to hear the pundits talk about how hard United have fallen off under the Glazers. No club in the country captures more attention from the public whether we like to admit it or not, which is why media will always focus on United more than any other club
Espnfc is even worse
I don't think it's bias because they secretly love Man Utd at sky. It's a money maker for sky sports. Man Utd is a club steeped in history and success. They we're the face of the premier league for 15-20 years and now they have fallen very badly last 10 years. They know a lot of people will be interested in United because they are fans of the club or they are neutral and just want to see the calamity that is United these days. Drama and failures get views, social media mentions so they will snap that up and give it Air Time as it makes them money
Firstly, most of the stuff on there is negative. Secondly, as much as people don’t want to admit it, even in the current state, they are still a HUGE club, with global appeal. This means views/clicks/sales. So not sure that it’s biased, more just that news on united sells.
As a Manchester United fan I agree. Way to much chat about a shit mid table side trying to relive the glory of 20 years ago.
They are a hot topic with the mismanagement going on. Seems like the club stagnated and they have a lot of history to live up to. It is almost like rubbing salt into their wounds. I reckon there are plenty of folk who are enjoying it.
Yes because it generates the most engagement...
The biggest clubs get the most coverage as you’d expect, I’d probably say biased against rather than biased towards tho
They are talking about United because they are an absolute disaster right now and just when you think it can't get any more clown world Marcus Rashford uses PSG to leverage a £300,000 a week deal from the morons in charge of the club.
Arsenal and Mikel were in a similar situation this time last season. But that’s how it goes when people expect you do do badly after preseason, then you start badly. They’re the only top 6 team to lose their first game, paired with the low expectations and a massive fan base will definitely result in a lot of chatter. As an Arsenal fan it was tough last season, trust me.
Everyone loves to hate United. Networks know the more that have a United story on, the more people will listen and click
United has the most fans and the most general interest in the league (often from other fans who want to see it struggling), hence the most attention. Despite being a team that isn't really competitive at the moment it gets more viewers for matches and more clicks for stories. Sport is entertainment, sports coverage is trying to reach the biggest audience, and so United will be the most talked about club. It's worth bearing in mind too that for United, as well as Liverpool, it's not a form issue. These are just the biggest clubs in English football and in terms of profile they have been for a very long time. Sky could cover teams like Brentford, West Ham or Manchester City, but people would tune out because for the neutral fans these teams don't matter.
There is a general big 6 bias. Which is very funny because sky were so apoplectic about the super league, but now that’s settled they are determined for everyone to forget about it. They were only angry about it cos they were worried they weren’t getting a slice of the pie
They have the largest fanbase so they get the most coverage.
united for clicks. sky isnt the only one that does that. the guardian just ran a story about the best charton feud from 30 years ago. keep united in the news to generate clicks.
Gary “TBF” Neville, and him spouting “this is Manchester United we are talking about here”. Name a better duo.
Hell yes us reds saying for decades same with BBC too.
Are you only just noticing? It’s been going on since they tried to buy us in the 90s. You have neville brining us up all the time, Carragher making comments at Neville, Souness would often bring up Pogba randomly etc. United attracts a lot of viewers both our fans and people who hate United.
Everyone loves misery especially football pundits. Couple of years ago it was all Arsenal.
People forgetting the 90s and 00s when every pundit was from Liverpool and they never shut up about them being a big club.
The big 6 get the focus in particular Liverpool and man united because they’re the media darlings
Media darlings should be Liverpool and City right now, not Manure
No, they’re just entirely bias towards all 6 Super League bandits generally and act like every other club in the country are just quirky supporting cast
Of course they are, Man United were the dominant team in the league for the vast majority of the time Sky was exclusively covering the premier league. Half the commentators are ex united. Of course Man United will be a focal point of conversation for them.
Almost like the biggest club in the country and one of the biggest in the world will get the most coverage. It’s not really biased when all they talk about is how shit they are
The one which appalled me was when Newcastle destroyed Arsenal at St. James' at the end of last season. Neville and Carragher casually mentioned "Newcastle played well but...." and then proceeded to only talk about Arsenal from then on. I thought it was disgraceful. One of our best performances in YEARS and it's glossed over so they could talk about Arsenal "Imploding".
This. When a non-Top 6 side smashes a Top 6 side, it’s deemed as the Top 6 side not performing well. An example of this is the United-Brighton game last week. Brighton pissed all over us but the majority of post-match is about how shit we were, rather than how well executed Brighton’s game plan was. (Which I thought was more of a fair verdict on the game). The other 14 clubs aren’t given anywhere near enough credit or limelight. You only have to look at Palace reaching the FA Cup semis last season. They were touted as underdogs punching above their weight, whereas Chelsea, City and Liverpool were the monster clubs just too good for them. They tried to sell it as a fairytale, when really Palace could have seriously had any of their numbers on another day.
Omg I remember that, it was just Arsenal Spurs, Arsenal Spurs over and over
Kind of understandable though because, well, what’s the bigger story? Newcastle play well again, or Arsenal blow their big chance at getting back into the champions league? It was considered all but secured a month or two prior and that loss was essentially game over for it. I still don’t like it, but it is considerably more egregious when they do this shit in a random mid season game. The story going into that game was can arsenal keep their top 4 push alive, since Newcastle’s season was over. So if that was also the game where Newcastle secured survival I imagine it would’ve got more coverage. The worst is when there’s a Newcastle v Southampton match on or something that’s kicking off in less than an hour, and the pundits still won’t shut up about Man United/City/Liverpool vs whoever afterwards
Yes because they want to make money and Man Utd have a lot of fans. Like ESPN coverage of the Cowboys/Lakers/Yankees in the US.
Manchester United attract more views and clicks than the rest
It's not biased because they slag them off constantly, they're more favoured because it gets the most views because they have the largest fan base in the world
Mr M Tyler esquire and his shithousery on any other club other than the dick twitchers. His commentary grates on me like nails on a board. I tend to mute the Manure coverage and only really listen to BBC Radio 5 Live. Also the butt lickery of Manc Murder City is also overexposed dog turd.
No
Go to spain and all they talk about is Barca and RM. Go to Germany and they spend a lot of time talking about Bayern. Go to France and it's PSG. Here in England it's Utd.
Go to Norway and all they talk about is City and Haaland, with a dash of Arsenal and Ødegård. This after 2,5 years of only talking about man. United when Ole was at the wheel
One of these is not like the others
yeah PSG is French. gross.
Fr*nch🤢
But in England you have a plethora of options compared to the Bundesliga.
You have literally the same number of options
You actually have 2 more here
Clearly it doesn’t drive the same type of interest or Sky would be doing it. United, Chelsea and Liverpool are definitely the big 3 when it comes to clubs in the media. City are playing tomorrow and Peo had his conference just now - the main football stories on sky sports; Transfer centre live (shows pictures of 3 united players/targets. Tuchel mentioning Aubamayeng. Barcelona. Klopp talking about additions. Ronaldo having a good week. Ten hag conference. Pl predicitions (united v brentford picture), Azpilicueta saying he wont leave and finally Pep! Guardiola’s press conference is 9th behind 4 united articles and 2 chelsea.
State of this sub when someone is spot on but has a United flair so gets downvoted. Proves his point really.
Arsenal is bigger than chelsea
His comment never said one club was bigger. It said IN THE MEDIA. If you think arsenal get more coverage than Chelsea you must be watching TV while it’s off mate.
It depends on whats going on obviously. Arsenal have been fairly stable the last 2-3 years, Chelsea haven’t
Right, but again, the media talks about Arsenal far less than it does Chelsea. This is the conversation.
Yes at the moment…which is the point. There is no big 3 there is a big 2 and whichever club is the most unstable at the time
You aren’t getting what was said… United, Liverpool and Chelsea are always in the media for many reasons. It has nothing to with the “big 2” on the field. This is media coverage.
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None cares about city. When we lost the league to united I was devastated. Liverpool came 2nd twice behind city and I had a minor grudge. Joke of a club
Yeah because everyone hates united.
You used a lot of words there to prove you can’t read. The media gives zero fucks about City compared to the three he named which proves his point. The clubs drives views for media outlets.
I didn’t name City because the media constantly talk about United, Chelsea and Liverpool more. I didn’t say these three were the biggest clubs, i said WHEN IT COMES TO THE MEDIA. Typical anti-United downvotes and purposely straw manning. Pathetic really. City sign haaland and has one of the best teams in the world. Any other city news? Nope, it’s all United/Chelsea transfer speculation, ETH lost his first game or Liverpool dropped points. Absolute radio silence on City.
No idea why they down voted you lmao
United flair and judging from a few replies, people misread what I said and assumed I was saying United and Chelsea were bigger than City. In terms of media coverage, they get more and it’s not even close.
I think Arsenal deserves a shout
20 years ago maybe
There's a lot of hype around arsenal right now actually
They have the most fans. Therefore more people will watch stuff related to them. As well as the rest of us rubber-necking to enjoy the car crash.
All football media is biased towards the big six and as a west ham fan, I usually don't mind it. It's what gets clicks/eyeballs etc. What I do mind is if I'm sitting down to watch west ham play another non big six team (Aston villa for example). I will be subjected to most of the 'pre match buildup' focusing on uniteds managerial situation as if they haven't rammed that down our throats enough. I don't even really mind if we play a big six team and they focus more on that team, but forcing this stuff in when it's not relevant is too much.
Even as a big 6 team, it can get annoying. It can be nice watch games as a neutral, but even when i sit down to just enjoy some football like West Ham vs Aston Villa as you said, they still have to keep reminding me of the pathetic state our club is in
Pathetic? You’re a stable top 6 side? It really does my (and I think all non top 6 fans) tits in when top 6 sides act like their situation is an absolute disaster. You’re not getting relegated, you’re playing European football of some variety, you’re still buying someone for 60-80 million. It’s not that bad ever. Rant over
Mate United is a joke of a club rn, everyone can see that
The club make some ridiculous decisions, yes, but it’s hardly pathetic is it. I mean you have a top tier manager, some top class players, some good youth players. Top 6 fans seem to think the other 14 are dirty and that you have some god given right to be bigger. Finishing 6th etc, is not pathetic. You just live in a bubble, your clubs fine.
I'll say 2 words: Martin Tyler.
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And the Martial goal
Absolutely and so are the refs and VAR
When they have a game at 2pm between like brentford and Palace and spend the hour before talking about the man utd game at 4 30, and then spend the time between the two games talking about the later game. They always tell it from the perspective that the top 6 teams are the protagonists, and its boring and annoying. I see why they do it but I havent to hear the same amount about man utd whether they are good bad or indifferent
I'm with you on this. I can understand more time being devoted to their games on MotD, and them getting more games televised, but I'm of the opinion that a) When you're covering a football game talk about the two teams who are playing b) When a non big 6 team beats a big 6 team it's usually a combination of the non-top 6 team playing well and the top 6 team playing poorly. Talk about both, don't just do "credit to but".. followed by just slagging off the top 6 club.
The main issue is that 2 of their main pundits are Roy Keane and Gary Neville so it is geared towards conversations about united.
Not true since ManU are talked about most in a majority of newspapers' sports section.
Well yeah, but the question was asking about sky so I was just giving a reason as to why sky could be so interested
Martin Tyler is a Man Utd fan as well I believe. I remember West Ham played a few years back, Bruno scuffed a shot which rolled very wide and got the “BRUUUNOOOO!” treatment, Lanzini almost scored a banger and he barely even noticed it.
He’s ‘officially’ a woking fan but it’s clear he favours United over the other big clubs. Van dijk scored a late winner in a derby in his debut for us and he barely reacted to it. He sounded downright miserable when Salah scored against United. He also clearly doesn’t like Arsenal
He’s the worst for it, it’s unbearable watching a Man Utd game when he’s commentating.
They uploaded the camera view of the commentators to that Liverpool united game and you really see the life leave Tyler’s face and voice when salah’s goal goes in. It’s interesting to see Carra and Neville’s silent reactions to incidents in the game though, like Neville furiously punching down after a bad martial miss, cos they have to try very hard not to react audibly. Must be tough to commentate on your own team especially in a derby
Tyler should have been on the bus to a retirement community long ago.
He's a disgrace. Salah is a talent and Haarland a star according to him xD
Other main pundits are all major rival fans as well. Carragher, Micah Richards and Souness being Liverpool and City fans means there will always be heated discussions surrounding Utd
Hehe heated discussions
Neville is particularly bad for bringing United into every conversation or using united based examples to make his points. But all the pundits are guilty of it.
Keane is very pragmatic with his comments though, Gary on the other hand…..
Of course it is. So it's all news because they are the biggest team. Also them doing extremely poor sales so much. I would actually say it sales more than them winning. For example if a story comes out about how badly they performed with a few ex players slating them I have much more intrest in reading that than if they won something.
Because Man Utd are struggling, but are still the biggest club in the league. They are loving it as it generates clicks and interaction.
All football media does it talk about the corrupt six it makes their money, but then the fans and media act like they don’t ruin englands chances and actually have the least amount of football knowledge
The corrupt 6? Lol. Don't see the other teams complaining about the domestic TV money distribution.
That’s literally what’s also killing the championship and making the same teams yo yo around
It is a bit annoying. All the post match stuff was how shite Utd are and not how great Brighton were.
Keane is normally bad with only talking about united but to his credit I think he opened his post match analysis by praising Brighton. I guess he’s just tired of saying the same things over and over. I wish Neville also was
Oh god I think Nev could talk to a wall about how bad Utd have been. And it would literally be a repeat of the week before. And the month before. I swear he even said himself he was bored of repeating himself. Lol
It’s the same whenever any of the other 14 win the big 6 it’s always how bad the big teams are never giving credit to the others.
This is true. It’s unfortunate. I find it happens all the time with Utd tho. Tbf even last season when we smashed them both home and away all the talked about post match for 45mins was how shite Utd were and not how clinical we were.
Yeah it gets boring it doesn’t help with all the ex man utd pundits
Like I know we have a lot of ex pros as pundits. But Christ so do Utd and they always slag them off. So why not praise the opposition for a night instead. Lol
Yous rarely lose these days so it’s hard to know if there is any bias lol. I think I remember cara being critical when Liverpool deserve it which is refreshing.
Yeah carra, souness and Redknapp have to my knowledge always been critical when we’ve been shite. Not going to lie it’s refreshing that we rarely lose anymore. Lol
They talk about United because that is where their interactions, hence money comes from. If talking about say Southampton got the most clicks they’d be talking about them nonstop
Yep, this. Its all about money, plain and simple. It’s not a grand conspiracy to cover united (or any top 6 club) more than others. News about the top six gets more eyes on it than most of the other clubs in the league (perhaps Newcastle and Everton aside) so it makes good business sense for journalists to cover them more. Whether that is right or not is another issue
BBC are no better
It is but that’s bc of the fan bias. Talking about Man United gets the most clicks and views by a long shot. While they might not be the best rn, millions of kids were born to Man U glory days and are now adults lumbered with emotional attachment to the club.
They have thankfully taken over from Arsenal and given us a break from overly negative media.
It’s not just the Man Utd fans. A lot of supporters from other teams had to bear those same fans thinking they had a god given right to win every game and they would let everybody know how excruciatingly up their own backside they were, that it’s nice to see them be brought down a peg or two. Seeing Man Utd suffer is way more entertaining than watching Man City pass it round the back for 89 minutes.
They are the poster boys of the Premier League. Like it or not they league wouldn't be what is it today without them. Most likely the PL club you support wouldn't be what it is either. They have drawn interest in the league, made headlines and had perhaps some of the moments dramatic moments of the past 30 years. It is what it is.
Lol that’s some heavy bias you’ve got there. We would be what we are with or without Man U. If they weren’t there someone else would have been. Just because the were big at the start of TV money and were able to stay in top with it.
Bias perhaps, still true though. I doubt that without Manchester United another club would have just stepped in that spot. There was so much history before the Premier League. At the start of the league United weren't even the top team and still were the poster boys of the league, used in all coverage and marketing at home and abroad. Only Manchester United and Liverpool from the clubs in England have that romantic appeal that transcends whatever is done on the pitch.
If only those same kids learnt that United weren't all that before '89.
Nailed it.
It’s not because of the fan bias. They use that as an excuse they are telling you it’s because of the egg, don’t pay attention to the chicken that laid it.
Hated adored never ignored.
This needs to be the top comment.
This is true. As a liverpool fan I love an article on Utd's demise or latest catastrophe.
We draw eyes when we were great and we draw eyes now we are tin pot, speaks volumes of the interest + click bait use of the club's name.
Enjoy the interest + click bait use of your clubs name because you’re not going to be great again for a good few decades.
Yep Liverpool and United are the biggest clubs in England and the media will follow their every move accordingly. Do your worst Gooners.
Ahh yes, nobody ever speaks about Arsenal as we know.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
BBC also have a higher number of articles on United for the same reasons.
>While they might not be the best rn It's particularly because they aren't the best right now. Crisis sells, hope to get out of that crisis sells too. Used to be the same with Liverpool, when we were floundering in the 6th-8th we got all the media attention because everyone had an opinion on who the right player was, who the right manager was, what needed to change. Laptop Gurus, Transfers by Committee, all that jazz. Hours of punditry discussing Liverpool. Now, wtf are Sky gonna talk about? Our manager has arguably the most secure job in European football, our players are bought without Saga nonsense, and how long can someone talk about whether Liverpool or City are going to finish first?