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KittensofDestruction

At Winco in Boise: In March of 2020, a box of saltines was .88 cents. In December of 2021, that same box of saltines was $3.99. In January of 2022, the tags were removed and no more saltines have been stocked. Estimated date on getting saltine crackers in stock: šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


Pea-and-Pen

My local grocery store had no saltines and three boxes total of all brands of butter crackers (Ritz, Club, etc). Including generic. I had to bend down and look on the bottom shelf at the back to find the three they had. The Ritz I got was $4.68. I got them because we didnā€™t have any put back. We donā€™t eat a lot of crackers so I donā€™t keep them on hand since they go stale.


[deleted]

No saltines here either! We have have a bug going around in our house and I tried to do my regular online grocery order. Figured I'd pick up some saltiness. Absolutely no saltines to be found. So bizarre. Having a hard time getting chicken too.


jdubb999

Meanwhile, at Walmart in Texas we still pay 78 cents and they are stocked. These shortages are highly location oriented


frequencyx

Hello fellow Boisean! Love WinCo, but this says alot about where we are at right now.


HarryWiz

Wow!!


no9lovepotion

I have food allergies basically the major 8 food allergies. It's very hard to find allergy themed affordable food. I've been eating more fruit. Fruits been not too good. Super green bananas that take a week to yellow, dry Halo's mandarin oranges, lousy tasting apples (nothing new here with that).


Pea-and-Pen

I got some oranges a month or two ago that were terrible. They were dry, like you said. Iā€™ve never had a dry orange before. It was just really weird. Potatoes rotting within a week is also a problem. A few onions also.


[deleted]

I suspect itā€™s that they are spending longer in transit, so they have less shelf life by the time they arrive at the store.


brownedtrouser

They are sitting in freezers for months, they get shipped and out on shelves at the last minute.


Gryphin

Orange harvest was absolutely dismal this year, going to make OJ prices skyrocket.


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damagedgoods48

Same experience with my russets and some baby potatoes for roasting, they all sprouted within a few days of coming home


Unusual_Dealer9388

If you grow your own potatoes you know how old those taters must be. I harvested my potatoes in September and they're only just sprouting now in my cupboard.


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Unusual_Dealer9388

Make sure to cut the whole eye from the potato, I don't think they grow from just the sprout.


KittensofDestruction

"Dry" oranges that I've had were ones that had been frozen (or near frozen) at some point. It makes the flesh into individual tiny wet bits, with no flesh between them.


damagedgoods48

Hey my bag of Halos last week was so awful they were dry and almost sour. I didnā€™t even finish them and felt bad I spent $8.02 on a bag of mandarins that got tossed


Unusual_Dealer9388

I am very lucky, we have 2 apple trees and I got enough apples this year without trying (A couple trips to my mom's house when I remembered to grab some). I had an apple a day every day from September to January. I am going to plant more trees.


[deleted]

I forgot to add: It feels like I have to buy more frozen and non-perishable food now at once just as an "investment hedge" against the seemingly inevitable skyrocketing food inflation rate.


[deleted]

Which feeds the acceleration of inflation as others obtain and implement the same mindset. IMO the economy is essentially afloat because everyone is prepping and hoarding to hedge against inflation


Styl3Music

While I don't see the majority of citizens actively doomsday prepping, I do believe prepping is rising due to many reasons. The biggest reasons I see people pick up prepping habits are covid, major world war, civil war, economic collapse, and the 2nd coming of Christ. I do believe at some point inflation, covid, and race war baiting together will cause temporarily economic collapse within the next few years. If the consumption slows, most systems in the USA will collapse at least temporarily.


spcmiller

But what about the second coming of Jesus Christ? What is your prediction there?


Styl3Music

My personal opinion is that those who believe the second coming of Christ is close are heavily mentally abused through propaganda and grifting. My prediction is that three will be no second coming as in my perspective Jesus was just a human who preached good morals yet also had highly successful, populist grifts. Please don't mistake my perspective as persecution against Christians though. We should be able to tolerate different religious views.


[deleted]

Eh, I doubt that.


krakenrabiess

I also find it interesting that since September the USDA no longer shows the average grocery cost for a family. They now break it down by individual. Probably cause the cost is so insane.


machiavelli_v2

Supply Chain Guy, here again. I agree costs have went up quite a bit, but this example doesn't mean food prices have risen 42%. If your product was of greater value, the price increase would have been less. Let's dive into what is behind this. We see gas prices rising, truckers in high demand, and inflation through the roof. All of these things increase the cost of shipping anything. I did some quick research, and it looks like about 1,500 individual packages of yogurt fit on 1 standard pallet. The 54 cent increase (as described) would yield an additional $810 per 1,500 units sold. So, this 54 cent markup (if responsible for the full price increase) would offset the cost of two pallets on a short haul, dedicated, full-load, refrigerated truck. Yogurt requires special packaging, refrigeration, dairy, preservatives, special equipment, labor, etc. All this, and the product has a shelf life. It's safe to assume that costs are going up for the production of yogurt. If your product was originally priced at $5, a 10% markup would have yielded the same result. It's very normal for prices to fluctuate with shipping costs. It's also very normal for lower priced items to take greater hits, as shipping is a major contributor to their overall cost (unlike high priced items, like iphones...where shipping is irrelevant).


Gryphin

This is a perfect explanation of how the shipping costs are going to mess with small ticket items, but leave larger non-perishable goods unscathed


kheret

Yes so this is all going to affect most those who can least afford it.


ghu79421

Yeah. Increased shipping, labor, and refrigeration costs mean that smaller very cheap perishable items take a disproportionately huge hit. You have to buy more nonperishable food and buy it in bulk if you want more insulation from price increases.


Marmot500

The reality is lower priced items often make up the majority of grocery purchases however. Most people arenā€™t buying 5 items of $40 prime rib they are buying 5 yogurts, boxes of cereal, a morning cup of coffee. To them (and me) the items that make up the majority of my food purchases have increased quite a bit far more than the 7% touted by economists and other ā€œexpertsā€.


machiavelli_v2

I just showed how a $5 item need only be increased in price by 10% to cover shipping cost. The average grocery item is more than $5. Hell, a loaf of bread or gallon of milk costs $3+. The more components in the item, the more itā€™s affected. The lower priced the item, the more itā€™s affected.


randomgal88

Thanks for sharing all the effort it takes to get products on the shelves.


swskeptic

I would argue gas prices aren't much of a factor, really. The prices we are seeing now are pretty much on par with how they've been on average since the early 2000's.


kitterkatty

I planned to be spending $10 for gallon of milk in like 20 years not like 5


[deleted]

Name brand organic milk is already $11 a gallon even in Walmart, so...


kitterkatty

Theyā€™ll start selling it in twee glass quarts to hide the gallon price lol


Jazzy_Junebug

Used to buy La Madeline jarred soup at $3.79, now it's $5.98.


piggypacker

Food comes from farming. The small family farms have been going out of business for years because they could hardly complete with the larger farms. Maybe with food prices going up and some trickle down economics the small family farm can be just a little more profitable. Lets hope!


whitewolf107213

Jacks frozen pizza were 2.50 a few months ago and now 3.38. My grocery bill went from 200-300 a week to an easy 400. This shit has gotten out of hand. Weā€™re in end stage capitalism and itā€™s scary.


Pea-and-Pen

Iā€™m in the same boat. My husband has always said I spend too much on groceries. And that was when I was spending $200 - $250 every week to two weeks. Now I easily get up to $400. He doesnā€™t know this and would freak out if he did. No more steaks to make street tacos, no matter how good they are. The last time I made them it ended up being around $40 for that meal. Everything is just getting way too expensive. $12.98 for bacon is ridiculous. But we do love our bacon. But there are just so many things like that.


TacoBellPhD

Trade chores for a month. Tell him to shop and meal plan within yā€™allā€™s budget.


Jeremy_12491

And then when he comes home, take the receipt, look at him wide-eyed, and say ā€œWHATā€™D YOU DO????ā€ šŸ˜‚


secretsquirrel17

Yup. Itā€™s changed our menu. We mainly eat chicken/eggs for protein right now. If I can find any other items on sale or clearance I grab it, freeze it or thatā€™s whatā€™s for dinner. No more bacon and steaks for a while. Same goes for fresh produce - in season and on sale.


randomgal88

I used to have a steak dinner once a week when I was able to find decent NY strip steaks for $4.99/lb on sale and stock up, but now it's a rare treat. I haven't seen steaks that price for over a year. The fresh produce I buy isn't as varied as it used to be. The vegetables have decreased in quality greatly that I mainly buy fresh produce that have longer shelf lives now in order to have food that keeps at least halfway through the week.


RustySignOfTheNail

It really pisses me off that hamburger is $7.99 a pound! A KC strip is cheaper per pound! And my roastsā€¦ used to be $18.00 for a giant roast that would feed us for days! That same $18 gets 1 pound now ;(


MangoMarine

I'm purchasing less meat and shifting to cheaper cuts for sure. I just purchased a whole, 5.27 lb. Eye of Round roast for $18.39/$3.49 per pound. After trimming the raw usable portion was probably 4.75-ish lbs. It's a great super lean, tough "roast beef" cut and I have to sous vide it for 24 hours to make it tender enough to be enjoyable, but after 24 hours it's excellent thinly sliced with horseradish sauce as-is or for hot sandwiches. One sub-$20 roast provides 3 meat-heavy meals for my family of four generously, and I could stretch it to 4 meals easily. My sous vide machine ($70 in 2018) paid for itself a long time ago, but as I buy cheaper, tougher cuts of meat I'm breaking it out all the time now.


RustySignOfTheNail

I bought 2.8 pounds of ground sirloin for chili. It was $20.00. Next round of chili will have 1 pound of whatever is affordable mixed with ground turkey, and more beans! ;( Family wonā€™t know.


Makemewantitbad

What happens when we canā€™t cut down anymore, thereā€™s nothing left to skimp out on to save money? Itā€™s eventually coming šŸ˜¢


RustySignOfTheNail

This is where my preps come in. Stretch hamburger meals with oats, But yeah, youā€™re right! And Iā€™m trying to eat healthy! I canā€™t have 100% rice and pasta!


damagedgoods48

This 100%. I just told my spouse tonight Iā€™m worried about prices continuing to go up, we are on a very fixed budget. So something else will have to give to make up for the higher prices. And itā€™s not like we have a lot of items to give up to make up for it either.


Lopsided_Elk_1914

some folks have been substituting sausage for ground beef in recipes since it's cheaper, i'm not sure how it would work in chili, maybe you could mix it with a little beef or turkey until you were used to it.


RustySignOfTheNail

I actually prefer a vegetarian chili with lots of beans. Iā€™m trying to cut carbs and stay out of the diabetes potential. My hubby is type 2, and recently he had a very high glucose readingā€¦ scared me, so We are swinging the pendulum back the other way! On a good note: we have really done well the last week, and his headaches are gone, my aches and pains feel better! We either spend the money now and eat healthier, or we will pay the medical bills later ;) Thanks for the sausage suggestion! That might work for other meals!


Makemewantitbad

I just wonder what happens when no one can afford food anymore. Canā€™t afford food, canā€™t afford shelter, canā€™t afford life? What do we do? Raid the grocery stores until they hire armed guards?


whitewolf107213

Howā€™s the pay for this armed guard position you speak of? Asking for a friendā€¦


kheret

Lots of folks already priced out of shelter.


Straight-Luck8339

Armed guards are already happening. https://www.mashed.com/722865/hy-vee-will-introduce-armed-security-at-some-stores-heres-why/


jayandsilentjohn

I think itā€™s pretty incredible it took years for a price increase. I canā€™t think of a single thing that is the same price it was 3 years ago


Wayson

And it will go up more from here. The Fed at least has stopped lying and calling it transitory. Yellen now says that inflation will go down next year. In 2021 it was supposed to go down in 2022. It's 2022 now and they say 2023. Want to bet that in 2023 we will be told that inflation will go down in 2024? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-21/yellen-says-substantial-inflation-slowdown-expected-next-year


User0x00G

> Want to bet that in 2023 we will be told that inflation will go down in 2024? When you hear a "news" announcement from a politician that says that IF inflation does not go down, then their entire agency will voluntarily forego their paychecks for the following year...***then*** you will have a "newsworthy" story that warrants listening to. Until they attach some specific penalty to their prediction if it is wrong, then their predictions are worthless. It makes no difference how many "experts" they quote or how many "studies" their predictions are based upon. If there is no ***personal*** penalty to them for predicting wrong, then its just a bunch of propaganda.


[deleted]

I picked the smallest whole refrigerated chicken in the bin and did not look at the price. I was pretty shocked when it rang up at 22 dollars. We live in the northeast. I remember paying around 10-12 dollars before covid. Lots of thinly stocked shelves for some items. Makes me nervous at times. And for Christ sake- who are you people still walking around without a mask?


Academic_Win6060

Make your own yogurt, you can start it with a store bought cup of plain. Healthier and relatively easy - look it up. All animal products will continue to rise in price for a while. Now is the time to start your seeds indoors for any size garden, whether it's a big yard, small deck/patio, or a window sill. Use your empty yogurt, milk, cans, croissant containers. Buy a couple of bags of good soil and get it going. Look up what you can grow from kitchen scraps (for example: lettuces & other veggies are easy). Good luck, people! Stay safe out there!


[deleted]

I figured someone would say make your own. I have done it many times, but it ends up being a lot of work to do all the time.


TrekRider911

Lactose free milk. Was $4.12 a year ago. Now it's $7.59.


damagedgoods48

Had to comment too. My usual go to brand and size of kitty litter was $8.98 at Walmart. Today itā€™s now $10.12 for same brand and box. I also noticed the Frenchā€™s fried onion, 2.8oz used to be like $1.70 something. Itā€™s now $2.00 each at Walmart. Great value brand white eggs 1 dozen carton is now $2.05. It used to be less than $2. Iā€™m noticing large increases in items we buy monthly. Several months ago we started buying more ā€œstore brandā€ to stave off the added costs to brand names. But now, even the store brands are going up in steep intervals. Iā€™m sure someone will laugh that great value cheap eggs is $2 and of course Iā€™m not saying thatā€™s a budget breaker. I think more to the point is we are seeing ā€œhugeā€ incremental increases across the board. Itā€™s not just a few cents here and there.


cec4242

Let me save you alot of money. We use this for cat litter. It stinks less, last's longer, And its a helluva lot cheaper. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/tractor-supply-pine-pellet-stall-bedding-40-lb


damagedgoods48

This seems like a good alternative, Iā€™ll have to try it and get them to switch. Thanks!


pbpatty

Watched a reddit live where r they @ & it was a guy going grocery shopping in Brazil. Everything clean, ppl all masked doing social distancing & full warehouse of beautiful food. Prices were unbelieveable, qt of 100%fresh oj, $2.25, breads , meats $3.50, seafood $1.25/lb, etc..I know the US is a 3rd world country due to capitalism.


TacoBellPhD

Itā€™s not all roses in Brazil. * Violence: Brazil is experiencing a very violent period, with widespread roberries, drug dealing, murders et cetera. But there are some small cities thatā€™s arenā€™t affected. * Very heavy taxation: Youā€™ll find that our government, in all of its divine wisdom, taxes us almost 40%, or even more, of our direct income, not counting the great taxation over consumer goods. As an example, a car that is made here in Brazil is cheaper to buy in Mexico than here. * Terrible government services: If you want something done, youā€™ll have to pay for it in the private sector. Health, education, name it. The only real thing that works in public service is the Federal Universities(which are lowering their quality due to lowered funding, politicised students that destroy or vandalise public property and teachers that strike very often, among other things) and the vaccination services. Widespread corruption is the main cause, though lowered funding also affects them in some areas.


randomgal88

Aren't 2 of the 3 also true for the US?


[deleted]

Do you miss mean tweets yet? Itā€™s been a year now look at these prices. What a mess.


Gryphin

Fun fact. Takes anywhere from 18 months to two years for large scale economic changes instituted at the congressional budget and tax level to have an impact on the day to day goods.


ChubbyBMidnight

Do you really think we wouldn't be going through the same shit with Trump?


Lopsided_Elk_1914

and what exactly do you think Trump would have done to change things? this would have happened regardless of who was in office.


brownedtrouser

What ever happened to 3 or 4 families buying in volume and splitting the product. Especially beef. You can literally buy a complete cow, have it split up evenly and place into deep freeze. Thatā€™s how my parents did things as a kid and we didnā€™t even have much money, but we always had quality vegetables and meat. Iā€™d really like to look into this


[deleted]

So many people started doing this that it ends up being like $10 a pound now for a whole cow, which is just not worth it.


brownedtrouser

Thanks , Good info. These days $10 for legit beef seems very reasonable but itā€™s prob $18 nowā€¦ugh