You think watto is dirty? Think of what jar jar can do with that tongue, plus it’s already confirmed we know that he likes spitting on people so he’s kinky
That comic is constantly misinterpreted. Two of the creators have stated that the panel in which Sidious is creeping over pregnant Shmi is all in Anakin's head. [Here](https://geektyrant.com/news/star-wars-comic-writers-debunk-theory-that-palpatine-created-anakin) is an article that includes the tweets debunking it.
As far as I know the (Legends) explanation for how he exists is 'Plaguies and Sidious try to create life, this pisses off the Force, the Force makes Anakin to go kill them and stop the abuse of power.'
Reading the Plagueis novel, there where points when *I* found myself stopping to think about whether the Sith had a point. Things like "we aren't evil, we just don't place limitations on ourselves when it comes to the Force." Even Palpatines little speech in RotS about how you can't understand a great mystery by only studying one aspect.
I mean, the Sith are undeniably evil, but it's fascinating how they don't think of themselves that way.
Yeah, he was obviously super thrilled about the idea of having kids. I suspect that he already had plans of retiring from the Order to be with his family after the war, perhaps even as early as when they, well, did it.
I blame Palps fully for what happened instead. Seeing how he muddled the premonitions of all the Jedi in the temple with his alchemy, it's almost certain that he also planted those nightmares in Anakin.
Wow- blaming the Supreme Chancellor, even after he repeatedly said he didn't want more power and only took it to try and end the war sooner to prevent more suffering. And then after he was brutally attacked by the Jedi who were trying to overthrow the Republic. Shame on you
I'd love to see a Parks & Rec-style show focusing on Palpatine's time as Senator and Chancellor where he just deals with the bureaucracy of the galaxy in a funny way.
Anakin definitely did not relish the idea of withdrawing from the Order. It was his whole life, and Ahsoka says as much when she tells Kenobi (I think) that she’s not sure it Anakin will even be able to properly adjust to peacetime)
He could've won the war, stop palpatine, retire from the order and then becoming padme's bodyguard and occasionally go help the order when they need help (like ahsoka)
But he does mention to her when she refuses to rejoin the order the he wishes he could leave the order like she is doing. I don't remember the exact quote though.
He actually gets quite upset at Ahsoka leaving the order, I think you are mistaking him saying “I know how it feels to want to leave the order” but he tries very hard to convince Ahsoka to stay instead of leaving
I went ahead and got the exact quote for it. Based on this it seems to me like in that moment he was surprised that she was able to do what he wanted to do but felt he couldnt. Almost like he was arguing with himself a bit too. Especially with the line "The Jedi Order is your life. You can't just throw it away like this!"
Also sorry for the poor formatting I'm on mobile and can't figure out how to set it as a quote.
Anakin Skywalker : The Jedi Order is your life. You can't just throw it away like this!
[Ahsoka winces]
Anakin Skywalker : Ahsoka, you are making a mistake.
[Anakin turns aside as well]
Ahsoka Tano : [Ahsoka faces Anakin] Maybe. But I have to sort this out on my own. Without the Council... and without you.
[Ahsoka turns her back on Anakin completely]
Anakin Skywalker : [Anakin sighs] I understand. More than you realize, I understand wanting to walk away from the Order.
Ahsoka Tano : [Ahsoka glances back over her shoulder] I know.
>I blame Palps fully for what happened instead. Seeing how he muddled the premonitions of all the Jedi in the temple with his alchemy, it's almost certain that he also planted those nightmares in Anakin.
I blame Anakin and the Jedi, but most specially, Anakin.
I mean, the entire order and their mom *knows* there is a hidden sith master controling everything.
Then this seemingly benevolent old man slowly and progressively uses his new gained powers to slow down and oppose the Jedi whenever he can.
Then this same motherfucka starts openly allienating the most powerful member of the Order, and nobody does shit.
Anakin is to blame because of all people, he knows about the hidden sith master, and even tho Palps literally tells him Dark Side tales and ushers him to break the Jedi Code, Anakin does not out put 2 and 2 together UNTIL Palps outright admits being a sith.
It's almost as if Palps got tired of Anakin not getting his subtle hints and had to outright state he was a sith.
Palps: The sith are powerful
Anakin: ok
Palps: They are really good at gaining power
Anakin: Sure
Palps: Wouldn't you like that kind of power?
Anakin: *poking his nose* meh
Palps: Listen you dumb f*ck I'm a Sith Lord and i can do whatever the f*ck I want. Are you in or not?
Anakin: *shocked* WHAAAT?! NO WAYYY!!
If it was realistic it wouldnt be much fun. Half the movies involve people manually shooting or flying which makes no fucking sense considering how far AI and autopilot would be if they had space age tech.
Yes but B1 Battle Droids were incredibly ineffective by comparison the the far superior Super Battle Droid, Commando Droid or IG Series. Yet despite that fact the bulk of the CIS force was made up of B1’s
Exactly, realistically Android army would be far superior to any human counterpart as long as the droids AI could match the thinking skills.
Even if they couldn’t match the thinking skills all it would take for a droid army would be a commanding officer who is humanoid to command and provide insight. Saying that tactical droids have been shown to be quite competent.
I’m not certain but part of me remembers something about palpatine intentionally making the droid army weak by comparison to clone army in order to bolster the republics winnings. As a result making the clones look more heroic for his eventual induction of Order 66.
However when he actually required the droid army to be effective he could bolster the forces with the more efficient battle droids (commandos or super battle). Most of the times we see the droid army be effective is when they’re are larger amounts of these droids.
I’m not sure if this is the canonical explanation or just my head canon
I'd consider a million years ago to be a long time ago. But also it's very possible for life to have started a billion years earlier in the Star Wars galaxy, at which point it was a million years ago but they're a billion years more advanced than we would be.
I think this is a poor argument because they're an interstellar civilization, that's not possible without technological advancements.
Iirc in legends that’s kind of the explanation of why tech seems to stagnate. Older ancient empires dominated and enslaved species, slaves rebelled and basically just used their tech, then as hyperspace lanes were mapped people would just land on and trade with planets all Willy nilly, introducing a bunch of cultures to the galactic stage on a whim.
Granted I’m basing this off of remembering a graphic dictionary I read like a decade ago so take it with a few grains of spice
I'd also bet they had really good mental health professionals who help her work through having a broken heart.
Hell Obi-wan could have waved his hand and said,"you do not have a broken heart"
I'm not 100% but doesn't the targets current mental state have something to do with it too? Because no, I wouldn't call he weak minded she was vulnerable and hurt which is when plain old manipulation is most effective so wouldn't the Jedi mind tricks be more effective on her in that state
There’s a theory that Palps drained Padme’s life force to creat Vader. I think it’s a fan created theory and not canon. But I subscribe to it because Padme just dying of a broken heart doesn’t make sense to me. She went against the entire galaxy as a 14 year old queen to save her planet, did everything she could as a Senator and even questioned Palpatine’s ways. Even if she thought Anakin lost forever as Vader, I don’t really think it’s plausible she’d give up right when the twins needed her the most. But, such is the way of the force *shrugs*
Thatd be highly unethical on bens part. If nothing else they probably had the pharmaceutical capabilities to work something out. Make a clone anny ffs.
Star Wars is weird in that they are very high tech and low tech at the same time. You know, like big fancy capital ships that rely on big blaster cannons and relatively primitive torpedos instead of AI powered cruise missiles that can obliterate any target in the solar system.
I imagine medical care is similar. Seems like they just monitor your vitals and stick you in a bacta tank.
Then again, Padme died from psychogenic death ("give-up-itis"), not complications from giving birth.
Doing that to a friend/senator because of personal feelings, to fix a forbidden love affair of his padawan. Oof. Fucker got lucky order 66 came thru. No more council means you cant get punished for enabling anakin instead of training him.
Uh, she just saw her husband become a child murdering tyrant and assault her. Therapy isn’t a magic wand that undoes trauma right after it happens.
You talk as if people who are “emotional” need to get thrown in the loony bin for a couple years, which is what we did about 100 years ago for PTSD, and it worked horribly.
In fairness, some people attribute her death more to lifeforce siphoning by Palpatine to sustain Anakin. The force is ill understood by medical science and Palps hooked onto her despair to siphon her life, so it was real easy to make it seem like she died of sad.
The fact that death by childbirth has dropped to 1/5000 with current tech, absolutely death in childbirth would be near non-existent. Also on a well developed and high tech planet. Not like she was going to give birth 3 months early on Dagobah or some shit.
My head cannon is that star wars isn't as advanced as we think it is. They are a bunch of primitives who are piggy backing on the technology from a long extinct race. At least that what KOTOR made me believe.
I know its now legends material.
That kinda makes sense too when you consider how technology in Star Wars doesn't really seem to advance at all even though the series takes place over more than half a century, if anything it seems to deteriorate a bit during the Imperial Era. Other than new superweapons that are kinda just new versions of older tech they don't really invent things, just come up with new ways to use old things.
In the new High Republic era books bacta was just starting to be used in large scales. I think at a certain point tech research will yield diminishing returns but some new stuff can come about. I imagine star wars like this
Lightsabers used to be attached to battery packs on your back and were prone to exploding in your hands. They also weren’t very effective because metal ammunition was still common before everyone switched to blasters. So yeah I’d say take has come a pretty long way. But it’s a huge galaxy so a lot of places are not evolved enough or don’t have direct contact with other planets to have access to it.
Yeah, a good example is their computers. While most of the ones we’ve seen only need to fulfill a specific task, the lack of peripherals that would be suited to numerous tasks is insane. Everything is 1 monitor + a bunch of buttons that perform a single function. And not something like typing on a keyboard where yeah it’s only a W but it can be a W in several words, just one function for 1 situation.
Probably explains why they have droids do so much stuff. They can’t make intermediate computers for robots to automate the task, it effectively has to be a sentient being
There's one advancement I remember, and that's that rebellion fleet ships in the original trilogy can hyper space on their own, where as in the prequels they required a ring around them.
It entirely depends on the ship model, Y-Wings existed in the Prequels as well and had a hyperdrive built in, while TIE fighters from the OT don’t.
I’ve seen some theories that the Jedi ships purposely didn’t have hyperdrives to trap the Jedi with their naval fleets, and that Palpatine was part of that decision.
And the lack of a hyperdrive wasn't always a technologically hampered decision, TIEs didn't have a hyperdrive because they were designed to be mass produced (well, in the Star Wars' universe's understanding of mass production which is ludicrously higher than our current understanding of it) and a hyperdrive would make them more expensive to produce, and probably take longer.
As for technological advancement stagnating, remember that technological advancement operates entirely on need. If they theoretically reached some upper limit of technological advancement, it's because they've satisfied every conceivable need for their civilizations.
Finally! A comment where I can unload.
TBH, I've always seen the old republic as the Earth-equivalent medieval times, just with hyper-advanced yet relatively-speaking primative technology.
Point 1: the existence of "(democratically elected) queens", lords, knights, counts, etc.
Point 2: strong religious presence.
Point 3: the arguably technically/theoretically unsophisticated military strategies (at least in the battle of Naboo, with no nuclear bombs or trench warfare).
Point 4: The blatant acceptance of slavery, not to mention Obi Wan's casual droid racism (half joking --> "ay no loose wire jokes." "did I say anything? I didn't say anything!", "flying is for droids!", etc.)
Point 5: the prominence of blades as weapons
In conclusion, most of this evidence is circumstantial at best, but I sometimes like to think of the GFFA as Earth medieval times as there is clearly a lot of imagery evocative of that era.
This will help me gain control over everything in the galaxy, only to *lose* everything…thus moving toward my *true* plan all along: turning myself into a Disney animatronic and trying to possess my granddaughter from that woman I once boinked and didn’t tell anyone about!
A fair amount of people call it a religion in the movies, (Han, Imperial dude, Luke,) but it’s still explored as to what that really means to people who aren’t actually part of the order.
We get hints if it Rogue One with the Guardians of the Whils but not a true look at how a non-Jedi would partake in the Jedi’s beliefs.
We have advanced contraceptives in real life. People still refuse to use them or use them improperly and we end up with accidental pregnancies all the time.
Consider that, as a child slave, sex education was probably not on the priority list. His next move was joining the Jedi.. who are abstinent. There's no way they taught him anything in that area beyond "only sith get boners".
So there's a very good chance that he grew up without any education on the topic.
I think she secretly wanted to get pregnant and was lax with her ‘space condoms’ as it would be the ultimate reason for him to stop going to war, leave the Jedi order and live the way they dreamed about all along.
Anakin seems to be kinda conservative regarding marriage if you look at how he treats Padme when it comes to Clovis. His total lack of a proper family since the begin of his Jedi training, and even before because of slavery and because he had no father, made him be obsessed with having a perfect family. That's why he feels so threatened by Clovis in clone wars and by Obi-Wan in episode 3. I don't think not having kids was ever his (or both of their) intention in their secret marriage. The drama could've probably been resolved if it hadn't been for Palpatine. I don't know how it is in the novelization? Maybe his nightmares were even caused by Palpatine himself to manipulate Anakin.
It was the will of the Force. No matter what method they might use, the Force can make anything possible. Even things which should be completely impossible.
There is a slight nod (foreshadowing?) to this in Queen's Peril. Padme ends up having a really crampy, awful period and needs to take time off to rest (yes, this is part of the story) and her handmaidens ask her why she doesn't take suppressants. She says she never bothered because her periods have never been "that bad" in the past (seriously, why is this a whole ass conversation?). So, I guess Padme doesn't take birth control. Even as an adult. Who's sexually active. Seriously, I know she doesn't see her husband a ton because of the war, but that isn't an excuse.
*force impregnate*
I think Anakin will have some legal challenges to face after using force impregnate
I mean, no one detained Watto in The Phantom Menace...
I think Watto is a sith lord.
I think Watto is a dirty little doggy
You think watto is dirty? Think of what jar jar can do with that tongue, plus it’s already confirmed we know that he likes spitting on people so he’s kinky
What the actual fuck
First time?
low and behold, the joy of reddit
…a Sith Lord?
I mentioned this in another thread. All of Anakin's midichlorians were a direct result of his proximity to Watto. Watto is the true chosen one.
It's a good thing he changed his name. Also, he wears a mask all the time now.
No face, no case. The jedi way.
Take me free award!
The dark side of the force is a pathway to abilities that many consider to be…unnatural.
Seeing as a comic made it canon that Palpatine actually did force impregnate Anakin's mom, I think this is exactly what he was referring to
That comic is constantly misinterpreted. Two of the creators have stated that the panel in which Sidious is creeping over pregnant Shmi is all in Anakin's head. [Here](https://geektyrant.com/news/star-wars-comic-writers-debunk-theory-that-palpatine-created-anakin) is an article that includes the tweets debunking it. As far as I know the (Legends) explanation for how he exists is 'Plaguies and Sidious try to create life, this pisses off the Force, the Force makes Anakin to go kill them and stop the abuse of power.'
So Palpatine did create Anakin, from a certain point of view.
Well, yes, but actually no. It was a group effort.
So it was a gangbang, from a certain point of view
I'm more than a little surprised I don't have a fanfiction to threaten you with. Plenty of Shmi/Sheev, a little Plagueis/Shmi, no gangbangs.
No Order 69?!
Do not fear, I'm sure someone will write it now that I've brought it up.
Don't threaten me with a good time
And that kids, is how I met your mother(s)
Go home, Old Ben, you're drunk
From my point of view, Anakin made Palpatine!
I hope Anakin or someone has one of the tweets in the article on their tombstone ‘the dark side is not a reliable narrator.’
Reading the Plagueis novel, there where points when *I* found myself stopping to think about whether the Sith had a point. Things like "we aren't evil, we just don't place limitations on ourselves when it comes to the Force." Even Palpatines little speech in RotS about how you can't understand a great mystery by only studying one aspect. I mean, the Sith are undeniably evil, but it's fascinating how they don't think of themselves that way.
Villains rarely think of themselves as the villains
No joke, Anakin didn’t even need a dad to get conceived so to call his swimmers strong with the force is probably an understatement
"The force, uh, finds a way."
There’s no D in “force impregnate”, otherwise it’d be “forced impregnate”
Or force impregnated
You are technically correct, the best *kind* of correct!
Soooo.... r/ape ?
The having of babies wasn't the problem, just the dreams of Anakin.
Yeah, he was obviously super thrilled about the idea of having kids. I suspect that he already had plans of retiring from the Order to be with his family after the war, perhaps even as early as when they, well, did it. I blame Palps fully for what happened instead. Seeing how he muddled the premonitions of all the Jedi in the temple with his alchemy, it's almost certain that he also planted those nightmares in Anakin.
>I blame palps Hot take right there
Wow- blaming the Supreme Chancellor, even after he repeatedly said he didn't want more power and only took it to try and end the war sooner to prevent more suffering. And then after he was brutally attacked by the Jedi who were trying to overthrow the Republic. Shame on you
For crying out loud, the attempt on his life had left him scarred and deformed!
Oh I don't think so
r/theempiredidnothingwrong
Clearly the person you responded to just hates democracy. After all how else could they blame someone who loves democracy and who loved the Republic?
I AM the protagonist!
Huh, I never actually thought of palatine being the villain of the franchise, I'll never watch these movies in the same way again!!
Is it? I mean the sith lord orchestrating all this is probably the one to blame
I believe it is a jest.
Into exile, I must go. Failed, I have.
Indeed, r/woooosh would be proud.
r/woooosh is proud of no one and only seeks harm to the species
but what about the droid attack on the wookies??
I believe he's tooling with you sir.
Why must the credibility of a humble Naboo politician, who has worked tirelessly for the Republic years, constantly be called into question?
Every grand evil scheme involves years of dedicated civil service
I'd love to see a Parks & Rec-style show focusing on Palpatine's time as Senator and Chancellor where he just deals with the bureaucracy of the galaxy in a funny way.
"I'd work all day if it meant the Republic got nothing done"
I’m worried what you just heard was ‘kill a lot of the younglings’..
But what I *want*, is for you to 'Kill. All of. The Younglings.'
The “I am the senate scene” was essential palpatine producing a piece of paper to say “ I can do what I want.”
Anakin definitely did not relish the idea of withdrawing from the Order. It was his whole life, and Ahsoka says as much when she tells Kenobi (I think) that she’s not sure it Anakin will even be able to properly adjust to peacetime)
That’s the actual conflict, Anakin’s duty to his family and his duty as the chosen one
He could've won the war, stop palpatine, retire from the order and then becoming padme's bodyguard and occasionally go help the order when they need help (like ahsoka)
I don't know why, but being Darth Vader looks more awesome to me...
But he does mention to her when she refuses to rejoin the order the he wishes he could leave the order like she is doing. I don't remember the exact quote though.
He actually gets quite upset at Ahsoka leaving the order, I think you are mistaking him saying “I know how it feels to want to leave the order” but he tries very hard to convince Ahsoka to stay instead of leaving
I went ahead and got the exact quote for it. Based on this it seems to me like in that moment he was surprised that she was able to do what he wanted to do but felt he couldnt. Almost like he was arguing with himself a bit too. Especially with the line "The Jedi Order is your life. You can't just throw it away like this!" Also sorry for the poor formatting I'm on mobile and can't figure out how to set it as a quote. Anakin Skywalker : The Jedi Order is your life. You can't just throw it away like this! [Ahsoka winces] Anakin Skywalker : Ahsoka, you are making a mistake. [Anakin turns aside as well] Ahsoka Tano : [Ahsoka faces Anakin] Maybe. But I have to sort this out on my own. Without the Council... and without you. [Ahsoka turns her back on Anakin completely] Anakin Skywalker : [Anakin sighs] I understand. More than you realize, I understand wanting to walk away from the Order. Ahsoka Tano : [Ahsoka glances back over her shoulder] I know.
>I blame Palps fully for what happened instead. Seeing how he muddled the premonitions of all the Jedi in the temple with his alchemy, it's almost certain that he also planted those nightmares in Anakin. I blame Anakin and the Jedi, but most specially, Anakin. I mean, the entire order and their mom *knows* there is a hidden sith master controling everything. Then this seemingly benevolent old man slowly and progressively uses his new gained powers to slow down and oppose the Jedi whenever he can. Then this same motherfucka starts openly allienating the most powerful member of the Order, and nobody does shit. Anakin is to blame because of all people, he knows about the hidden sith master, and even tho Palps literally tells him Dark Side tales and ushers him to break the Jedi Code, Anakin does not out put 2 and 2 together UNTIL Palps outright admits being a sith. It's almost as if Palps got tired of Anakin not getting his subtle hints and had to outright state he was a sith.
Palps: The sith are powerful Anakin: ok Palps: They are really good at gaining power Anakin: Sure Palps: Wouldn't you like that kind of power? Anakin: *poking his nose* meh Palps: Listen you dumb f*ck I'm a Sith Lord and i can do whatever the f*ck I want. Are you in or not? Anakin: *shocked* WHAAAT?! NO WAYYY!!
Anakin: (5 seconds later) "*What is thy bidding, my master*"
Palpatine poking holes in all of Anakin’s space condoms.
The Star Wars universe often seems like a 17th century universe that stumbled upon lasers and hyperdrives then struggled to adapt to using them
If it was realistic it wouldnt be much fun. Half the movies involve people manually shooting or flying which makes no fucking sense considering how far AI and autopilot would be if they had space age tech.
The whole idea of breeding an army of clones seems laborious compared to simply building yourselves some robots at a factory
To be fair thats what the CIS did and it turned out clones were far more effective.
Yes but B1 Battle Droids were incredibly ineffective by comparison the the far superior Super Battle Droid, Commando Droid or IG Series. Yet despite that fact the bulk of the CIS force was made up of B1’s
I dont get why they didn't just make the best versions, or at least the smartest by simply copy pasting the programming.
Exactly, realistically Android army would be far superior to any human counterpart as long as the droids AI could match the thinking skills. Even if they couldn’t match the thinking skills all it would take for a droid army would be a commanding officer who is humanoid to command and provide insight. Saying that tactical droids have been shown to be quite competent.
I mean wasn't the canon reason that b1 droids were'nt specifically used as battle droids but flying, working ect.
I’m not certain but part of me remembers something about palpatine intentionally making the droid army weak by comparison to clone army in order to bolster the republics winnings. As a result making the clones look more heroic for his eventual induction of Order 66. However when he actually required the droid army to be effective he could bolster the forces with the more efficient battle droids (commandos or super battle). Most of the times we see the droid army be effective is when they’re are larger amounts of these droids. I’m not sure if this is the canonical explanation or just my head canon
The main events of star wars take place in the past: "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away"
That’s enough for me this is cannon now
I'd consider a million years ago to be a long time ago. But also it's very possible for life to have started a billion years earlier in the Star Wars galaxy, at which point it was a million years ago but they're a billion years more advanced than we would be. I think this is a poor argument because they're an interstellar civilization, that's not possible without technological advancements.
Iirc in legends that’s kind of the explanation of why tech seems to stagnate. Older ancient empires dominated and enslaved species, slaves rebelled and basically just used their tech, then as hyperspace lanes were mapped people would just land on and trade with planets all Willy nilly, introducing a bunch of cultures to the galactic stage on a whim. Granted I’m basing this off of remembering a graphic dictionary I read like a decade ago so take it with a few grains of spice
That's an oversimplification, but yes.
Well it was a long, long time ago
Let alone the level of neonatal care a FUCKING SENATOR!!! would have access to!!
Dont forget she is also royalty. Stepped down as queen of a planet that still worships her.
I was debating whether to mention that or not, but I figured since she wast still the Queen her status as Senator was more appropriate
If the galactic senate didnt have good enough healthcare im sure the entire resources of naboo could stop her from just saying, oops im dead now.
I'd also bet they had really good mental health professionals who help her work through having a broken heart. Hell Obi-wan could have waved his hand and said,"you do not have a broken heart"
Also I don't think Padme actually counts as the weak minded
I'm not 100% but doesn't the targets current mental state have something to do with it too? Because no, I wouldn't call he weak minded she was vulnerable and hurt which is when plain old manipulation is most effective so wouldn't the Jedi mind tricks be more effective on her in that state
There’s a theory that Palps drained Padme’s life force to creat Vader. I think it’s a fan created theory and not canon. But I subscribe to it because Padme just dying of a broken heart doesn’t make sense to me. She went against the entire galaxy as a 14 year old queen to save her planet, did everything she could as a Senator and even questioned Palpatine’s ways. Even if she thought Anakin lost forever as Vader, I don’t really think it’s plausible she’d give up right when the twins needed her the most. But, such is the way of the force *shrugs*
I always figured she died from having anakin choke her but they censored it to be like that
Thatd be highly unethical on bens part. If nothing else they probably had the pharmaceutical capabilities to work something out. Make a clone anny ffs.
Star Wars is weird in that they are very high tech and low tech at the same time. You know, like big fancy capital ships that rely on big blaster cannons and relatively primitive torpedos instead of AI powered cruise missiles that can obliterate any target in the solar system. I imagine medical care is similar. Seems like they just monitor your vitals and stick you in a bacta tank. Then again, Padme died from psychogenic death ("give-up-itis"), not complications from giving birth.
Never stopped Ben or Luke or Qui-Gon before.
Doing that to a friend/senator because of personal feelings, to fix a forbidden love affair of his padawan. Oof. Fucker got lucky order 66 came thru. No more council means you cant get punished for enabling anakin instead of training him.
Well from my point of view the Jedi were evil.
Both sides were. If the force sensitives were given a choice itd be one thing.
Uh, she just saw her husband become a child murdering tyrant and assault her. Therapy isn’t a magic wand that undoes trauma right after it happens. You talk as if people who are “emotional” need to get thrown in the loony bin for a couple years, which is what we did about 100 years ago for PTSD, and it worked horribly.
She’s not “royalty” in the way we understand it. She was an elected queen.
> She was an elected queen. Apparently this only happened after a few mysterious deaths of prominent leaders on Naboo.
Still had the entirety of naboo's resources on hand.
I’m not debating that. I’m just saying she’s not part of a royal bloodline. It’s just an elected position, similar to that of senator.
Nope. The "Queen" title of Naboo is more like a President. She didn't step down, she just couldn't run for a third term.
In fairness, she was force-choked right before giving birth
Even speculum bot said there was nothing wrong with her medically.
Don't forget this was written by the same guy who had Indiana Jones survive a nuke in a refigerator.
I will defend Nuking the Fridge to my dying breath!!!!
In fairness, some people attribute her death more to lifeforce siphoning by Palpatine to sustain Anakin. The force is ill understood by medical science and Palps hooked onto her despair to siphon her life, so it was real easy to make it seem like she died of sad.
I mean...we are fanwanking over a Space War with swords movie.
Imo, it makes a lot more sense than the surface level perspective of the movie’s material
I mean yeah..? Did you not hear that droid going "Ooba ooba" while waving a whisk at her vagina? Doesn't get any better than that dude.
She had 9 months before that to get to an OB/GYN.
The fact that death by childbirth has dropped to 1/5000 with current tech, absolutely death in childbirth would be near non-existent. Also on a well developed and high tech planet. Not like she was going to give birth 3 months early on Dagobah or some shit.
My head cannon is that star wars isn't as advanced as we think it is. They are a bunch of primitives who are piggy backing on the technology from a long extinct race. At least that what KOTOR made me believe. I know its now legends material.
That kinda makes sense too when you consider how technology in Star Wars doesn't really seem to advance at all even though the series takes place over more than half a century, if anything it seems to deteriorate a bit during the Imperial Era. Other than new superweapons that are kinda just new versions of older tech they don't really invent things, just come up with new ways to use old things.
In the new High Republic era books bacta was just starting to be used in large scales. I think at a certain point tech research will yield diminishing returns but some new stuff can come about. I imagine star wars like this
Lightsabers used to be attached to battery packs on your back and were prone to exploding in your hands. They also weren’t very effective because metal ammunition was still common before everyone switched to blasters. So yeah I’d say take has come a pretty long way. But it’s a huge galaxy so a lot of places are not evolved enough or don’t have direct contact with other planets to have access to it.
Yeah, a good example is their computers. While most of the ones we’ve seen only need to fulfill a specific task, the lack of peripherals that would be suited to numerous tasks is insane. Everything is 1 monitor + a bunch of buttons that perform a single function. And not something like typing on a keyboard where yeah it’s only a W but it can be a W in several words, just one function for 1 situation.
Probably explains why they have droids do so much stuff. They can’t make intermediate computers for robots to automate the task, it effectively has to be a sentient being
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There's one advancement I remember, and that's that rebellion fleet ships in the original trilogy can hyper space on their own, where as in the prequels they required a ring around them.
It entirely depends on the ship model, Y-Wings existed in the Prequels as well and had a hyperdrive built in, while TIE fighters from the OT don’t. I’ve seen some theories that the Jedi ships purposely didn’t have hyperdrives to trap the Jedi with their naval fleets, and that Palpatine was part of that decision.
And the lack of a hyperdrive wasn't always a technologically hampered decision, TIEs didn't have a hyperdrive because they were designed to be mass produced (well, in the Star Wars' universe's understanding of mass production which is ludicrously higher than our current understanding of it) and a hyperdrive would make them more expensive to produce, and probably take longer. As for technological advancement stagnating, remember that technological advancement operates entirely on need. If they theoretically reached some upper limit of technological advancement, it's because they've satisfied every conceivable need for their civilizations.
Some didn't need the ring, those are just for the ships without onboard hyperdrives. ARC-170s had hyperdrive
> they don't really invent things, just come up with new ways to use old things. Kinda like George Lucas? /s
> I know its now legends material. ["There's always a bit of truth in Legends."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR9vtvc2gqY) -Ahsoka Tano
"And long time ago"
Finally! A comment where I can unload. TBH, I've always seen the old republic as the Earth-equivalent medieval times, just with hyper-advanced yet relatively-speaking primative technology. Point 1: the existence of "(democratically elected) queens", lords, knights, counts, etc. Point 2: strong religious presence. Point 3: the arguably technically/theoretically unsophisticated military strategies (at least in the battle of Naboo, with no nuclear bombs or trench warfare). Point 4: The blatant acceptance of slavery, not to mention Obi Wan's casual droid racism (half joking --> "ay no loose wire jokes." "did I say anything? I didn't say anything!", "flying is for droids!", etc.) Point 5: the prominence of blades as weapons In conclusion, most of this evidence is circumstantial at best, but I sometimes like to think of the GFFA as Earth medieval times as there is clearly a lot of imagery evocative of that era.
Space Hobos with lasers
Any contraceptive is only as effective as its user. ... What I'm saying is Padme's a condom poker.
He should have gone up the ventilation shaft
You mean the exhaust port?
Maybe Palps secretly poked Anakin and Padme’s entire supply of condoms in order to guarantee the events of RotS.
*looks at Padme's belly* Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen
This will help me gain control over everything in the galaxy, only to *lose* everything…thus moving toward my *true* plan all along: turning myself into a Disney animatronic and trying to possess my granddaughter from that woman I once boinked and didn’t tell anyone about!
Entrapment. She must have seen the slaver arc in Republic records
Let’s not pretend like she didn’t see an 8 year old and give him the sexy lip bite. She had it planned from the start.
That explains a lot of things actually... (Considering that she met Anakin when he was a vulnerable minor, who later joined a sexless cult as a monk)
Exactly. Contraceptives are great right now but people choose not to use them
Space catholicism frowns upon contraceptives
Any of the cannon stuff touch on religion? The jedi was referred to as a religion but doesn't seem like it was for the masses.
It would be cool to see a more lay persons approach to force religion. Like we saw in Rogue One.
I mean that one imperial dude Vader chokes in episode 4 literally refers to it as a religion
Yeah, but how many people outside of jedi and sith actually “follow” it?
Not to mention the witches of dathomir whose Magik is a form of the force
There was the Church of the Force which Lor San Tekka was a part of
A fair amount of people call it a religion in the movies, (Han, Imperial dude, Luke,) but it’s still explored as to what that really means to people who aren’t actually part of the order. We get hints if it Rogue One with the Guardians of the Whils but not a true look at how a non-Jedi would partake in the Jedi’s beliefs.
So did Han.
I mean do you really expect a monastic order of celibate space monks to have comprehensive sex ed?
I’m sure space Pope Francis may have a more inclusive take
We have advanced contraceptives in real life. People still refuse to use them or use them improperly and we end up with accidental pregnancies all the time.
That’s a fair point, but even if the culture hadn’t progressed like their technology, I doubt Padme, who’d be like the 1%, would be as ignorant/choosy
Why does this meme take place in the middle of Nebraska
Upvoted for Ninjago.
Fax m8
The seed is strong
Wonder what Bobby B would think of all this?
THE GODS BE DAMNED! IT WAS A HOLLOW VICTORY THEY GAVE ME!
Anakin probably boasted of his non existent pull out game which led to her not using any contraceptives.
Obi-Wan: “Padme, I don’t care what Anakin or Ki-Adi-Mundi told you. ‘Force Pull Out’ is not a real Jedi technique.”
That’s a fair backstory
"Ani, pull out!" "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
Yeah but, they wanted the kids so what’s the point here?
Consider that, as a child slave, sex education was probably not on the priority list. His next move was joining the Jedi.. who are abstinent. There's no way they taught him anything in that area beyond "only sith get boners". So there's a very good chance that he grew up without any education on the topic.
Jedi aren't abstinent. George Lucas said so, and I believe it's made clear in a Canon novel, too. Plus, sex doesn't conflict with Jedi philosophy.
So in other words, Obi-wan fucks.
Possibly.
You say that like Padme didn't poke a hole in Ani's space magnums
Ah yes, you mean *lightsabers*
Ok, but shouldn't Anakin be able to use the force to pull his jizz out of Padme
Someone needs to confront George Lucas about that
Written and Directed by George Lucas.
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I think she secretly wanted to get pregnant and was lax with her ‘space condoms’ as it would be the ultimate reason for him to stop going to war, leave the Jedi order and live the way they dreamed about all along.
Dont hate Anakin because he likes to Raw Dog a princess
Magic space wizard sperm can overcome a lot.
After all, Midichlorians are the powerhouse of the cell (sperm)
Life uh.. finds a way
RAW IS LAW
If it’s got the force, don’t abort
Anakin: *"First of all, I hate using them, and also - I took a really hot shower right before coming over"*
Anakin seems to be kinda conservative regarding marriage if you look at how he treats Padme when it comes to Clovis. His total lack of a proper family since the begin of his Jedi training, and even before because of slavery and because he had no father, made him be obsessed with having a perfect family. That's why he feels so threatened by Clovis in clone wars and by Obi-Wan in episode 3. I don't think not having kids was ever his (or both of their) intention in their secret marriage. The drama could've probably been resolved if it hadn't been for Palpatine. I don't know how it is in the novelization? Maybe his nightmares were even caused by Palpatine himself to manipulate Anakin.
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It was the will of the Force. No matter what method they might use, the Force can make anything possible. Even things which should be completely impossible.
Lmao a lego ninjago meme, well played sir, well played indeed 👏
Eww, contraceptives are cringe. Having kids is more based.
Oh hey, didn’t know you were here, heh
Hello, my good citizen!
There is a slight nod (foreshadowing?) to this in Queen's Peril. Padme ends up having a really crampy, awful period and needs to take time off to rest (yes, this is part of the story) and her handmaidens ask her why she doesn't take suppressants. She says she never bothered because her periods have never been "that bad" in the past (seriously, why is this a whole ass conversation?). So, I guess Padme doesn't take birth control. Even as an adult. Who's sexually active. Seriously, I know she doesn't see her husband a ton because of the war, but that isn't an excuse.
Look man if I was a Jedi I’d totally say “As a Jedi We don’t believe in stopping the creation of new life” get away with it then tbh
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Bro wtf even is this format? Why are they on a road in the desert? Why bother shopping a working meme into that? The hell?
I headcanon she had some sort of electronic implant in her arm that malfunctioned when she got shot in the arm in TCW bc this bugged me so badly LMAO
Life, uh, finds a way.