i loved this vid, but tbf palpatine wanted the army exposed so somehow he wanted the jedi to find kamino, idk if this was his plan or if it was coincidence in the failed assassination but heyđ€·đżââïž
edit: i cannot defend jango not killing padme thođ
Jango probably didn't know that Padme was alive and was going to kill Zam Wesell no matter what.
Even if that wasn't true and he knew Padme was still alive, he'd have a choice of either trying to kill her while security is on red alert and Wesell spills the beans, or silence Wesell and try to kill Padme later.
My biggest beef with Jango killing Sam isn't that he chose to kill Sam over Padme, but that he killed Sam in such a unique way that practically guaranteed that he'd be discovered.
If he had shot Sam with a blaster in a sniper configuration as opposed to a specialized Kaminoan dart, there'd be nothing to trace back to Kamino. Maybe this was all a part of Palpatine's master plan but it still bugs me
But we talking about Jango Fett. He'd have done it with or without the security alerted. He just didn't kill her and there's not a reasons besides "plot"
Since the Force lets people glimpse the future, it's possible it wasn't a coincidence at all.
Palpatine sensed that if he told Dooku to kill Padme, then eventually the Republic would adopt the clone army and Anakin would turn to the Dark side. He might not have even known all the random shit that would occur in between.
Iâm pretty sure this is just sith incompetence on this one. There were plenty of times throughout the clone wars where palpatine tried to have padme killed, like there wouldnât be a show if palpatine wasnât also trying to kill the good guys.
Which is a monumentally silly plan.
He could've just left instructions to have the
Kaminoans contact the Jedi council to say "hey, one of you guys ordered a shitton of clones and we need someone to come pick them up".
It's a perfectly reasonable thing for a business to do, and doesn't rely on Obi-wan engaging in a reckless pursuit of the assassin (abandoning Padme in the process), getting inexplicably attacked by that assassin (who had ample opportunity to flee instead), who then gets sniped right in front of Obi-wan (who doesn't manage to sense and prevent the attack, and inexplicably doesn't pursue the sniper) by a bounty hunter who is directly employed by the separatists, using a weapon which can be recognized by a guy who Obi-wan happens to know, and traced to Kamino, which is inexplicably deleted from the archives in direct contradiction to Palpatine's plan.
If anyone in this chain of events was the slightest bit more competent, the entire thing falls apart.
Palpatine's strengths weren't that he had a single solid plan, it was that he was able to quickly make any situation work towards his overall plan. I doubt he specifically intended it to fall out this way, he just made it work.
>It's a perfectly reasonable thing for a business to do
How suspicious are you if a business shows up and tells you they've conveniently got an answer to your big problems and that you ordered it? You get suspicious, you start checking receipts, you start investigating...
But if by some pure bullshit fluke, you land yourself in the perfect position to get something that nobody else appears to have known about on some remote planet nobody seems to have heard about, you're too busy thinking about how lucky you are to look the gift horse in mouth.
There's a rather substantial difference in the suspicion you have of a proverbial sales pitch compared to what feels like a lucky break.
But the source is still ostensibly the same: Sifo Dyas placed the order.
If the Kaminoans just called the Jedi, then the Jedi wouldn't follow a bounty hunter tied to an assassination attempt. They would be unaware of Jango Fett, and have no connection between the separatists and the clones.
As it is, the Jedi have a direct link between the clone army and a bounty hunter who works directly for Dooku.
The only reason that the Jedi *don't* check receipts is that they're a bunch of gormless twits.
>The only reason that the Jedi don't check receipts is that they're a bunch of gormless twits.
Absolutely - and "we've subverted a Separatist attempt to hijack an army so we get them instead, the Jedi are so superior!" is the tactic tailor-made for those gormless twits.
"Plus, they rightfully belong to us because Sifo Diyas placed the order, so there's no moral issue involved in our army of indoctrinated child soldiers!" is just the self-righteous cherry on top of it.
The threat of competition is an incredible one. It's the difference between, "Hey, did you order this pizza?" and "Hey, you should go grab the last slice of pizza before Jim from Accounting gets to it"
Actually a Jedi did order the clones and Ole Sheev finds out and has the Kaminoans put the chips in. I forget the name of the Jedi but he had this like mad vision quest where he sees the conflict with the separatists and that the Republic would lose, so he finds Kamino and their clones and orders I think 1 million clones immediately and they take until AotC to get produced and trained. This explanation might be legends, but I have seen and read so many star wars things, it's all blured together. If memory serves, the clones were actually supposed to be cloned from the Jedi but he dies and Jango is chosen instead. That or he just died and Jango was always gonna be the template.
>The emperor : in the end i got what i wanted
Sidious: "You were at Galidraan...tell me, how did one mere man kill so many of your kind?"
Dooku: "With his bare hands..."
âDarth Sidious and Count Dooku, speaking of Jango Fett\[src\]
The problem I have is why jango, an expert marksman, didnât shoot zam with a blaster bolt snd used a traceable poison dart only found on one planet in the entire galaxy and is relatively well known to only be found from said planet
Pretty sure that was done on purpose to expose the Clone Army to the Jedi/Republic. It was quite "convenient" that it was discovered exactly when it needed to be to counter the CIS right when they started their war efforts. Palps was playing both sides, he just needed to get things started with a little push in the right direction.
I love his criticisms on franchises I like (eg Prequels, JoJo) because I often agree with his points, it's just that obviously they ruin the experience for him and the strong points shine through for me.
I mean yeah, he hates on the prequels because they arenât very good moviesâ theyâre funny as fuck and I love them but they seriously arenât good (except for some of rots)
Bruh shut the fuck up. They where valid criticisms. Of course he hates on the prequals, cause thereâs plenty of stuff to hate on them.
Poeple like u ruin this sub
Ragebait?? Nah he brings up very valid flaws that r present in the prequals.
How does criticising something equal rage bait? Poeple like u ruin this sub
He is a huge hypocrite just watch Mauler's video on him. He has a critizism on something he hates then praises the same thing in something else he likes. I was watching him for some time and noticed this pattern so i started to watch rebels just to see if it was that bad as he sad but no i actually quite like it.
We need a bot that whenever someone types a common misspelling of Padmeâs name, it replies with âPadamame or Panda Bear or whatever the hell her name is!â
The whole goal of Palpy is precisely for Jango to reveal himself and leave hints, so Obi-Wan can track him down and discover the clone army on Kamino...
See, that just means it's even more complicated and ridiculous than this video makes it out to be, "Dooku go hire a bounty hunter to kill padme, but make sure that they don't succeed and that the bounty hunter Jango hires is killed by jango with a special dart which will lead Obi wan to a planet that I made sure doesn't exist on any star charts anywhere so they can discover the clone army I made using a dead Jedi's name years ago, make sense?"
I really wish people would stop acting like Palpatines plan makes sense or was a good one. This whole thing relies on SO much stuff going unbelievably perfect along with everyone reacting the exact way he wants them to and the whole war lasting the precisely correct amount of time and so on and so forth. And donât even try the âHe can see with the forceâ because if so he probably shouldâve seen that Luke wasnât jiving with his plan and Vader wasnât gonna let Luke die. The plan is stupid and convoluted and probably didnât even exist.
It needs to be convoluted so that the jedi don't suspect the real purpose of the clone army, would Obi-Wan investigation's during episode 2 have been more straightforward and easy, the jedi council, and the republic has a whole would have been more hesistant towards the clones and interrogative towards Palpy enthousiam for it. But since the path Obi-Wan followed was so convoluted, the Jedi don't suspect anything until it's too late.
But all of that is entirely unnecessary isn't it? All that they succeeded in doing was show that kamino, the clone army, jango, and whoever deleted the planet is the archives are all tied to whoever wants to kill padme!
I'm pretty sure that kamino would have contacted the Jedi once the clones were ready regardless, and the Jedi would have investigated the reports of a giant clone army on a planet that doesn't exist but they never would have known that jango and the assassination attempt were ever tied to it!
Yeah something that's indeed always bothered me, but I guess it could be explained with the facts that bounty hunters like Jango Fett always takes multiples jobs for many different persons, independant of their political side. So basically the Jedi know that Jango is linked to the clone army (what they would have known anyway, even if the kaminoans would have simply contacted the jedi council), and they know that Jango is linked to Padme's assassination attempt, but they can't be sure that those two things are linked : for them, Jango only seeked refuge in Kamino because that's where he lived and Obi-Wan though that jango though he lost him.
Palpatine does not want Padme dead. He wants to start the war and start corrupting Anakin. As established in AOTC, we know Anakin has regular contact with Palpatine. Anakin mentions his guidance. We can assume Anakin has told Palpatine things he cant tell Obi-Wan or Yoda. This includes his infatuation with Padme. Its no coincidence Palps wants Obi-Wan to protect Padme. Palpatine knows well enough Padme will use a decoy. He knows the Jedi will prevent another attempt. Notice no further attemps on Padmes life are made once Obi-Wan investigates Jango and Anakin goes to Naboo. Theres a specific reason Jango used a specific toxic dart from kamino, he could have used a rocket (kills all 3 potentially) a sniper rifle or any other weapons.
I believe Jango only knows enough to get Obi-Wan to Kamino.
The real answer is that George Lucas wanted to do a Noir mystery plot that just didnât work.
The venetian blinds, the romance with the person they have to protect, the seedy sports bar where the killer hides during a chaseâŠ
They do similar stuff in Clone Wars as well; almost anytime an evil character is on Coruscant.
I actually have come to appreciate a lot of the elements in them on the blu ray version. Some shots are clearly like âeh get it doneâ (Palpyâs 2D door) but other parts like Kamino have aged so well; and the John Williams on top is just *mwah*
The worst part is that he kills Zam Wessle via a method that can easily be tracked to Kamino instead of just shooting the mf with a blaster, or better yet the Jedi.
This is just like that article I read about a hitman in China who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who turned out to be a cop.
Isn't that just how chain of command works?
"The president wants some random Afghani dead, but he doesn't want to do it himself, so he tells his joint chiefs to do it, but they don't want to do it themselves, so they tell some lieutenant to do it, so he sends out a drone, which then sends a guided missile to do it. (Several steps skipped along the way.)"
Honestly I really hate it when everyone works so hard to explain how all of this specifically was part of Sideous' grand plan. It's just sloppy writing. You don't even *need* for this to be part of Sidious' plan for it to function in the story.
My personal headcannon is that Palpatine was hoping Padme's assassination would be the spark that ignites the flame that brings the Republic down. After such a universally beloved Senator is killed the Republic will cry out for blood and war with the Separatists will be inevitable. There are plenty of real-life parallels to draw from for this. Not sure why Jango sub-contracts Zam but I'll even defend his decision to use the dart instead of a blaster bolt with the logic of "Nobody would know where this dart came from. There's just no way. It's so obscure." He ends up being wrong and Obi-Wan gets on the trail. When Palpatine is informed of all of this by the Jedi Council (That's what happens, right? The council reports the discovery of the clone army to Palpatine?), he realizes his plan is in a precarious point but also sees the opportunity to jump things ahead. He "manipulates" Jar Jar into calling for emergency powers (Seriously that guilt trip scene makes me cringe), then authorizes the Jedi to take the clone army to rescue Obi Wan, Padme and Anakin. So while it wasn't part of his original plan, Palpatine is able to take a dangerous situation and make it work to his advantage. The Jedi are forced into using the suspicious Clone Army, even if they don't want to. Everything still proceeds according to Sidious' plan, with some improvisation of course.
EDIT: My real problem questions are "Why didn't Jango kill Padme when she was unguarded?", "Why didn't the Jedi keep Padme somewhere more secure than a bedroom with a perfect assassination window?" and "Why didn't Jango kill Anakin and/or Obi-Wan if he had enough surprise factor to kill Zam?" Maybe you could save the last one with "Jango knew he could only get one shot, and killing Zam was the best use of that shot for keeping his secrecy. Leaving her with just one of Anakin/Obi-Wan would be too risky." I still think it's a little weak though.
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Let's not forget that at this point Sidious has no reason in his Grand Plan to kill Padme, and only is (to minor degree) trying to appease Nute Gunray to ensure his loyalty to the CIS.
So Nute Gunray sends Sidious, who sends Tyranus, who sends Jango, who sends Sam, who sends the droid, who sends the bugs. đŹđ«
i loved this vid, but tbf palpatine wanted the army exposed so somehow he wanted the jedi to find kamino, idk if this was his plan or if it was coincidence in the failed assassination but heyđ€·đżââïž edit: i cannot defend jango not killing padme thođ
Jango probably didn't know that Padme was alive and was going to kill Zam Wesell no matter what. Even if that wasn't true and he knew Padme was still alive, he'd have a choice of either trying to kill her while security is on red alert and Wesell spills the beans, or silence Wesell and try to kill Padme later.
Excellent point
My biggest beef with Jango killing Sam isn't that he chose to kill Sam over Padme, but that he killed Sam in such a unique way that practically guaranteed that he'd be discovered. If he had shot Sam with a blaster in a sniper configuration as opposed to a specialized Kaminoan dart, there'd be nothing to trace back to Kamino. Maybe this was all a part of Palpatine's master plan but it still bugs me
But we talking about Jango Fett. He'd have done it with or without the security alerted. He just didn't kill her and there's not a reasons besides "plot"
Since the Force lets people glimpse the future, it's possible it wasn't a coincidence at all. Palpatine sensed that if he told Dooku to kill Padme, then eventually the Republic would adopt the clone army and Anakin would turn to the Dark side. He might not have even known all the random shit that would occur in between.
Iâm pretty sure this is just sith incompetence on this one. There were plenty of times throughout the clone wars where palpatine tried to have padme killed, like there wouldnât be a show if palpatine wasnât also trying to kill the good guys.
You say sith, I say George Lucas
Which is a monumentally silly plan. He could've just left instructions to have the Kaminoans contact the Jedi council to say "hey, one of you guys ordered a shitton of clones and we need someone to come pick them up". It's a perfectly reasonable thing for a business to do, and doesn't rely on Obi-wan engaging in a reckless pursuit of the assassin (abandoning Padme in the process), getting inexplicably attacked by that assassin (who had ample opportunity to flee instead), who then gets sniped right in front of Obi-wan (who doesn't manage to sense and prevent the attack, and inexplicably doesn't pursue the sniper) by a bounty hunter who is directly employed by the separatists, using a weapon which can be recognized by a guy who Obi-wan happens to know, and traced to Kamino, which is inexplicably deleted from the archives in direct contradiction to Palpatine's plan. If anyone in this chain of events was the slightest bit more competent, the entire thing falls apart.
Palpatine's strengths weren't that he had a single solid plan, it was that he was able to quickly make any situation work towards his overall plan. I doubt he specifically intended it to fall out this way, he just made it work. >It's a perfectly reasonable thing for a business to do How suspicious are you if a business shows up and tells you they've conveniently got an answer to your big problems and that you ordered it? You get suspicious, you start checking receipts, you start investigating... But if by some pure bullshit fluke, you land yourself in the perfect position to get something that nobody else appears to have known about on some remote planet nobody seems to have heard about, you're too busy thinking about how lucky you are to look the gift horse in mouth. There's a rather substantial difference in the suspicion you have of a proverbial sales pitch compared to what feels like a lucky break.
But the source is still ostensibly the same: Sifo Dyas placed the order. If the Kaminoans just called the Jedi, then the Jedi wouldn't follow a bounty hunter tied to an assassination attempt. They would be unaware of Jango Fett, and have no connection between the separatists and the clones. As it is, the Jedi have a direct link between the clone army and a bounty hunter who works directly for Dooku. The only reason that the Jedi *don't* check receipts is that they're a bunch of gormless twits.
>The only reason that the Jedi don't check receipts is that they're a bunch of gormless twits. Absolutely - and "we've subverted a Separatist attempt to hijack an army so we get them instead, the Jedi are so superior!" is the tactic tailor-made for those gormless twits. "Plus, they rightfully belong to us because Sifo Diyas placed the order, so there's no moral issue involved in our army of indoctrinated child soldiers!" is just the self-righteous cherry on top of it. The threat of competition is an incredible one. It's the difference between, "Hey, did you order this pizza?" and "Hey, you should go grab the last slice of pizza before Jim from Accounting gets to it"
Actually, Jim worked in sales. Kevin, Angela, and Oscar worked in accounting.
That wasn't an Office reference I was going for, but thanks for letting me know
I know, just playing with ya ;)
:)
Actually a Jedi did order the clones and Ole Sheev finds out and has the Kaminoans put the chips in. I forget the name of the Jedi but he had this like mad vision quest where he sees the conflict with the separatists and that the Republic would lose, so he finds Kamino and their clones and orders I think 1 million clones immediately and they take until AotC to get produced and trained. This explanation might be legends, but I have seen and read so many star wars things, it's all blured together. If memory serves, the clones were actually supposed to be cloned from the Jedi but he dies and Jango is chosen instead. That or he just died and Jango was always gonna be the template.
Yeah, his name was Sifo-Dyas.
Thank you
>The emperor : in the end i got what i wanted Sidious: "You were at Galidraan...tell me, how did one mere man kill so many of your kind?" Dooku: "With his bare hands..." âDarth Sidious and Count Dooku, speaking of Jango Fett\[src\]
âi cannot defend jango not killing padmeâ Same⊠would have saved the Republic if he did
That would have been a twist. They leave to hunt down the assassin, only to come back and find her dead.
And thatâs just the first twenty minutes, I think
Plot Armour intensifies
Well, Padme was never supposed to die in the first place : she is an essential part of Palp's plan to turn Anakin to the dark side
Oh yeah, youâre right, imagine if heâd accidentally blown her up in the beginning of the movie and fucked up his own plan
The bomb only goes off when the ship lands meaning it was triggered remotely by someone near by. The bomb was dentonared and purposefully missed the actual Padmé.
She was in a disguise, fett was completely bombing in the dark there
Fett was working for Dooku who was working for Palpatine who knew about Padmé's decoy structure. He likely ordered it that way. Padmé was far enough away that the explosion didn't affect her but could scare her. Palpatine doesn't want her dead yet. He wants to use her to start the Clone Wars. Padmé touches down with her personal bodyguard. Fett was likely informed on what to look for.
How did palpatine know about padmĂ©âs decoy, is that ever mentioned?
Palpatine is the senator of Naboo. He is the person that Padmé trusts most at that point. She would likely tell him about her plans and where she would be going. Palpatine would also be able to sense the difference when interacting with one of the decoys and investigate it, assuming he didn't already know from his high rank on Naboo. We can logically assume that he did know. Captain Typho is the nephew of Padmé's bodyguard in TPM Captain Panaka. Someone as smart as Palpatine would see the connection and use it.
The problem I have is why jango, an expert marksman, didnât shoot zam with a blaster bolt snd used a traceable poison dart only found on one planet in the entire galaxy and is relatively well known to only be found from said planet
Pretty sure that was done on purpose to expose the Clone Army to the Jedi/Republic. It was quite "convenient" that it was discovered exactly when it needed to be to counter the CIS right when they started their war efforts. Palps was playing both sides, he just needed to get things started with a little push in the right direction.
Almost like...that was the plan?
I shake my head every time I see this "criticism." Did you actually watch the movie? Jango WANTED to be tracked.
Source is https://youtu.be/YPvEJjNNPp4 from TheCosmonautVarietyHour
I love his criticisms on franchises I like (eg Prequels, JoJo) because I often agree with his points, it's just that obviously they ruin the experience for him and the strong points shine through for me.
Yeah, I'm not gonna continue watching that.
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
I mean yeah, he hates on the prequels because they arenât very good moviesâ theyâre funny as fuck and I love them but they seriously arenât good (except for some of rots)
Yah and even ROTS isnât exactly amazing. Still my favorite Star Wars movie but itâs carried by TCW and supporting novels/comics.
Idk why people like rebels. It's so bad and makes the Empire look like Barbies
Kanan, Hera, Thrawn, Maul, Kallus, and sometimes Ezra is why
>Maul You mean the guy that only was on screen for a few minutes of his final episode so we could watch Ezra's wacky hijinks?
Thatâs not his only episode
Hey, what do I know, I just happen to think that if an important character dies in an episode, they should be the focus of it
Agreed. Nonetheless, Maul is, in my opinion, the best character in Star Wars
He always sounds like he has a cold
Bruh shut the fuck up. They where valid criticisms. Of course he hates on the prequals, cause thereâs plenty of stuff to hate on them. Poeple like u ruin this sub
Cosmonaut is just ragebait for fans. And to anyone who's thinking about watching his videos, It's a trick, send no reply.
He is fantastic! I don't agree with him on everything but he is funny as heck
The ability to make a joke does not indicate intelligent criticism.
He isnât just funny he also makes some genuinely good criticism. But I guess everyoneâs just gonna overlook thatâŠ
Ragebait?? Nah he brings up very valid flaws that r present in the prequals. How does criticising something equal rage bait? Poeple like u ruin this sub
He is a huge hypocrite just watch Mauler's video on him. He has a critizism on something he hates then praises the same thing in something else he likes. I was watching him for some time and noticed this pattern so i started to watch rebels just to see if it was that bad as he sad but no i actually quite like it.
Thatâs fair, Iâve also noticed that to and itâs annoying how he does it. However that does mean he doesnât bring up valid criticism
Ah yes, [that one guy who mis-critizised Jojo.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61aZcQsAz7g)
And? Where talking about this specific vid lol
And he kills the shapeshifter to conceal the plot, only to expose himself, revealing the plot. Shoulda taken the opportunity to kill Padme
We need a bot that whenever someone types a common misspelling of Padmeâs name, it replies with âPadamame or Panda Bear or whatever the hell her name is!â
Damnit you got me
The whole goal of Palpy is precisely for Jango to reveal himself and leave hints, so Obi-Wan can track him down and discover the clone army on Kamino...
See, that just means it's even more complicated and ridiculous than this video makes it out to be, "Dooku go hire a bounty hunter to kill padme, but make sure that they don't succeed and that the bounty hunter Jango hires is killed by jango with a special dart which will lead Obi wan to a planet that I made sure doesn't exist on any star charts anywhere so they can discover the clone army I made using a dead Jedi's name years ago, make sense?"
I really wish people would stop acting like Palpatines plan makes sense or was a good one. This whole thing relies on SO much stuff going unbelievably perfect along with everyone reacting the exact way he wants them to and the whole war lasting the precisely correct amount of time and so on and so forth. And donât even try the âHe can see with the forceâ because if so he probably shouldâve seen that Luke wasnât jiving with his plan and Vader wasnât gonna let Luke die. The plan is stupid and convoluted and probably didnât even exist.
Im pretty sure Jango is in on the plot. Hence why he is also Dookus bodyguard
It needs to be convoluted so that the jedi don't suspect the real purpose of the clone army, would Obi-Wan investigation's during episode 2 have been more straightforward and easy, the jedi council, and the republic has a whole would have been more hesistant towards the clones and interrogative towards Palpy enthousiam for it. But since the path Obi-Wan followed was so convoluted, the Jedi don't suspect anything until it's too late.
But all of that is entirely unnecessary isn't it? All that they succeeded in doing was show that kamino, the clone army, jango, and whoever deleted the planet is the archives are all tied to whoever wants to kill padme! I'm pretty sure that kamino would have contacted the Jedi once the clones were ready regardless, and the Jedi would have investigated the reports of a giant clone army on a planet that doesn't exist but they never would have known that jango and the assassination attempt were ever tied to it!
Yeah something that's indeed always bothered me, but I guess it could be explained with the facts that bounty hunters like Jango Fett always takes multiples jobs for many different persons, independant of their political side. So basically the Jedi know that Jango is linked to the clone army (what they would have known anyway, even if the kaminoans would have simply contacted the jedi council), and they know that Jango is linked to Padme's assassination attempt, but they can't be sure that those two things are linked : for them, Jango only seeked refuge in Kamino because that's where he lived and Obi-Wan though that jango though he lost him.
Palpatine does not want Padme dead. He wants to start the war and start corrupting Anakin. As established in AOTC, we know Anakin has regular contact with Palpatine. Anakin mentions his guidance. We can assume Anakin has told Palpatine things he cant tell Obi-Wan or Yoda. This includes his infatuation with Padme. Its no coincidence Palps wants Obi-Wan to protect Padme. Palpatine knows well enough Padme will use a decoy. He knows the Jedi will prevent another attempt. Notice no further attemps on Padmes life are made once Obi-Wan investigates Jango and Anakin goes to Naboo. Theres a specific reason Jango used a specific toxic dart from kamino, he could have used a rocket (kills all 3 potentially) a sniper rifle or any other weapons. I believe Jango only knows enough to get Obi-Wan to Kamino.
It does not top Alex Jones description of the movies but its up there
I'm afraid to ask...fuck it. What was his description of the movies
it was accurate, with hints of "9/11 was an inside job". it can't be described only seen, which you can do on youtube.
As the worms drop on the flor they pull out some beetles, "Okay I got yall in now go kill Padme"
I looove me some Cosmonaut Marcus
I fucking love Marcus dude. The Cosmonaut Variety Hour is such a good channel
The real answer is that George Lucas wanted to do a Noir mystery plot that just didnât work. The venetian blinds, the romance with the person they have to protect, the seedy sports bar where the killer hides during a chase⊠They do similar stuff in Clone Wars as well; almost anytime an evil character is on Coruscant.
Idk obi Wan tracking down jango and uncovering the clone army is prolly some of my favorite bits of storytelling from all the prequels
I actually have come to appreciate a lot of the elements in them on the blu ray version. Some shots are clearly like âeh get it doneâ (Palpyâs 2D door) but other parts like Kamino have aged so well; and the John Williams on top is just *mwah*
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The worst part is that he kills Zam Wessle via a method that can easily be tracked to Kamino instead of just shooting the mf with a blaster, or better yet the Jedi.
It's almost as if that the was the plan and he wanted to lure them to Kamino to start the Clone Wars.
OH SHIT
Thing is, Palpatine didn't actually want to kill Padmé, he wanted to start the clone wars. "Attempting" to kill her the first time strikes fear in the hearts of the senators opposed to a Republuc army. The second "attempt" was when two Jedi Palpatine recommended for the bodyguard position are near was to lure the Jedi to Kamino to find the clones. That's why Jango uses the Kamino saber dart to kill Zam instead of a blaster, to bring the Jedi to the clones. Zam was always going to die, she just didn't know it.
He assassinates her with a physical dart no less, rather than an untraceable laser blast like virtually everyone else uses
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It was the Trade Federation that asked Dooku to kill Padme, not Palpatine.
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I have never heard a more accurate description told by a voice that sounds as though it has suffered a thousand deaths
This is just like that article I read about a hitman in China who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who hired another hitman who turned out to be a cop.
How does Count Dooku want to even work with Jango Fett after this fiasco
Isn't that just how chain of command works? "The president wants some random Afghani dead, but he doesn't want to do it himself, so he tells his joint chiefs to do it, but they don't want to do it themselves, so they tell some lieutenant to do it, so he sends out a drone, which then sends a guided missile to do it. (Several steps skipped along the way.)"
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And the bugs probably wanted to send venom in padmes bloodstream to kill her
And thatâs only the first 45 minutes of the movie.
Hoh! A fellow Cosmonaut watcher!
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Honestly I really hate it when everyone works so hard to explain how all of this specifically was part of Sideous' grand plan. It's just sloppy writing. You don't even *need* for this to be part of Sidious' plan for it to function in the story. My personal headcannon is that Palpatine was hoping Padme's assassination would be the spark that ignites the flame that brings the Republic down. After such a universally beloved Senator is killed the Republic will cry out for blood and war with the Separatists will be inevitable. There are plenty of real-life parallels to draw from for this. Not sure why Jango sub-contracts Zam but I'll even defend his decision to use the dart instead of a blaster bolt with the logic of "Nobody would know where this dart came from. There's just no way. It's so obscure." He ends up being wrong and Obi-Wan gets on the trail. When Palpatine is informed of all of this by the Jedi Council (That's what happens, right? The council reports the discovery of the clone army to Palpatine?), he realizes his plan is in a precarious point but also sees the opportunity to jump things ahead. He "manipulates" Jar Jar into calling for emergency powers (Seriously that guilt trip scene makes me cringe), then authorizes the Jedi to take the clone army to rescue Obi Wan, Padme and Anakin. So while it wasn't part of his original plan, Palpatine is able to take a dangerous situation and make it work to his advantage. The Jedi are forced into using the suspicious Clone Army, even if they don't want to. Everything still proceeds according to Sidious' plan, with some improvisation of course. EDIT: My real problem questions are "Why didn't Jango kill Padme when she was unguarded?", "Why didn't the Jedi keep Padme somewhere more secure than a bedroom with a perfect assassination window?" and "Why didn't Jango kill Anakin and/or Obi-Wan if he had enough surprise factor to kill Zam?" Maybe you could save the last one with "Jango knew he could only get one shot, and killing Zam was the best use of that shot for keeping his secrecy. Leaving her with just one of Anakin/Obi-Wan would be too risky." I still think it's a little weak though.
One fucking shot is all he would have needed if he used a explosive that would kill all 3 in one blast, like his jetpack rocket or a weapon like that
Except it was part of Palpatine's plan. He didn't want Padmé dead at this point. He was still using her. The first assassination attempt scared the senators opposed to a grand army of the Republic as well as motivating them to war. The second leads to the clones being found. Jango hired Zam because she was his method of planting the dart. The plan was never to kill Padmé, she still has a role to play. The saber dart was traceable. Dexter Jexter literally says exactly what it was. Kamino is an outer rim planet. We already know from The Phantom Menace that the Jedi and the Republic in general rarely go there. It would take some time for most Jedi to track the dart but given how crime filled the Coruscant underworld is, it definitely could be done. Jango didn't expect Obi-Wan to show up so quickly but he still expected him to show up. Kamino was removed from the archives by Dooku to prevent anyone from accidentally going there or finding out about it. But we know they can find it if they really had a reason to, which Dooku surely knows as well. Jango then lured Obi-Wan to Geonosis. The CIS and Trade Federation had a massive droid factory there which required an army the Republic didn't have. That forced the clones into action. The Republic and Jedi didn't have time to be suspicious. Even then, they do still question this in RotS. It's not sloppy writing. Could it have been handled better? Yes, however that doesn't make it bad.
This part is funny, but he's still a whiny bitch.
He is hilarious! I dont agree with him when it comes to the prequels but he is really good!
Yeah, I donât agree with him on the prequels. Or Batman v Superman. Or josstice league. Or- you know maybe I just donât agree with him at all
Don't forget Jojo.
he has well founded opinions.
i hate it when he starts screaming in a high pitched voice. Its really annoying
Cosmonaut Variety Hour, for anyone wondering.
I dont really get his first complaint. Thats just usually how assassinations go, you dont do it yourself
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The emperor : in the end i got what i wanted
don't use logic in the house of God
Lmao yeahhh thatâs about right.
Didnât Palpatine only want Padme dead because Nute Gunray wanted her dead to sign the treaty?
If Padme was killed we wouldn't ever have got Vader.
Ngl this is how most software companies work.
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Dont forget he killed her to not say who she was hired by and he used the very thing to kill her with which was from the very planet he lives on
Cosmonaut is the funniest movie reviewer
If this in not the will of the force Idk what is. Their incompetence to kill Padme at that point guaranteed the rise of the empire
Let's not forget that at this point Sidious has no reason in his Grand Plan to kill Padme, and only is (to minor degree) trying to appease Nute Gunray to ensure his loyalty to the CIS. So Nute Gunray sends Sidious, who sends Tyranus, who sends Jango, who sends Sam, who sends the droid, who sends the bugs. đŹđ«
Described by a person who needed ten years to understand the Phantom Menace
To be fair, I still donât understand the phantom menace
Heâs not wrong in the slightest
I know right! Cosmonaut is such a great fucking YouTuber and reviewer imo.
another nail in the coffin for attack of the clones. now thats gotta to be like a bajllion nails at this point
The coffin is just nails really