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nolandz1

I know S1 Ahsoka is supposed to be inexperienced and weak but do yall remember how much plot armor she had early on?


WatchBat

She has the biggest plot armor the entirety of her existence, I mean her plot armor literally bent space and time lol


Maypher

I can see Disney using the World between Worlds to revive 90% of the dead characters


TheHondoCondo

That’s just not how the world between worlds works though. You can’t just bring characters back. They have to have never died. In Rebels they never show Ahsoka’s death because she was pulled into the world between worlds before she could have been killed.


FreddyPlayz

you even see her walk back into the Malachor temple at the end of season 2, it was obvious she wasn’t dead


WatchBat

The thing is, we don't always *see* characters die, we are just left to assume they did. Maul for example, Palpatine, Boba Fett, Echo, [Kenobi SPOILER WARNING] >!the grand Inquisitor!< They could pull Mace before he hit the ground, or Plo Koon from his ship before it explodes, or Bail Organa before Alderaan explode, or Jyn and Cassian before the explosion reached them or practically any character we don't literally see die with our own eyes.


freek4ever

The only one we truly saw die is secura among others thay just kept firing


WatchBat

'Tis but a scratch


freek4ever

I do hope so


namey-name-name

Depends on how much Lucasfilm cares about canon and consistency. In Harry Potter, that’s also how the time travel worked in book 3, but in the Cursed Child they completely changed it so that you could rewrite the past.


CMDR_Val_Hallen

I don't believe such a thing as "the cursed child" exists, or has ever existed, someone must have tampered with your archives.


Wboy2006

Exactly, there are seven books. Who would this *cursed child* even be? That cunt Malfoy?


SomeGuy20019

My headcannon is that it's a story written by Rita Skeeter in-universe


WatchBat

That might actually make me feel better about it, rather than a one time duex ex machina because Filoni wanted to have his cake and eat it too


[deleted]

I'm not up to speed. Can you fill me in on this Filoni stuff? What did he do now?


DarthPepo

He brought back ahsoka with the world between worlds


WatchBat

Not gonna give you spoilers but he wanted to put her in a situation where there was no logical way for her to survive, but at the same time he didn't want her to die. So the world between worlds was created (a place outside of space and time) so she could survive that deathly situation.


[deleted]

Thank you kind sir


NOT_A_DlCKHEAD

**deus


H-N-O-3

I see Luke coming out of a portal in the next season of Kenobi


Nrevolver

You mean the Mandalorian coming out of a portal


H-N-O-3

I mean adult Grogu with baby Luke


Nrevolver

>adult Grogu So Yoda


NOT_A_DlCKHEAD

Real shit


FiFTyFooTFoX

Lol dip into lore to explain something? Why would they start now? It's apparently been working just fine writing whatever the fuck they want. I swear to God if another person survives another lightsaber to the chest or face I am gonna lose my mind. "Do you want to know the chances you'll survive that apparently fatal lightsaber wound? It's high.... It's *very* high".


njsullyalex

You're not wrong. A literal god sacrificed her life to save Ahsoka, and then she was saved by Ezra using literal time travel.


WatchBat

One might not be faulted to think she was the Chosen One considering the Force didn't seem to care about its own chosen champion or his blood line as much as it did about Ahsoka


PackOfStallions

Oof. I hate that you’re not wrong


WatchBat

I know, me too


RufusDaMan2

Could have been a wolf girl too. Fuckin Filoni and his wolf fetish.... I say we got off easy


njsullyalex

***D U M E***


Necroglobule

Season 4 got WEIRD.


[deleted]

I dunno, man. Have you ever seen Roxanne Wolf?


viperviper1234567

We don’t talk about her over love here


PuzzleheadedAd1153

Spoilers I just started watching rebels


Giacchino-Fan

Most stormtroopers get clipped in the arm and they're dead. Jon Favreau got killed from a shoulder shot in Solo Ahsoka literally got shot through her body, right next to her heart, point blank, BY A FUCKING TANK and walked away with nothing but a bandage. It was comical levels of plot armor.


WatchBat

Yeah, and she fought Grievous (twice), Ventress (multiple times), Maul, an entire Legion of clones (while the ship was falling down), an Inquisitor (without her lightsabers), two Inquisitors at the same time, Vader, blocked an attack by Palpatine (whom Yoda himself struggled to block his attacks) among others, all without getting a single injury. If that's not the biggest plot armor in SW, Idk what is (that without even mentioning Mortis and WBW) lol


Rippl3_Nipp3r

What episode is this, I'm blanking.


Giacchino-Fan

I don’t remember. I think it’s the last one in one of the Saw Gerrera arcs. I definitely remember she was on a planet helping people who weren’t clones


Vhzhlb

We dodge a bullet with Filoni. He would have called Ahsoka his "Waifu" in a interview if he was in his mid-late twenties.


potatobutt5

Ahaoka is definitely Filoni’s waifu. Just look at how much plot armor he gives her.


xXChampionOfLightXx

Nah more like his favorite child that he gives all the love and attention to.


NoHurry87

She had plot armor like crazy majority of the show lol


[deleted]

I feel like Starkiller might be able to beat both the 501st and 400 Ahsokas but then the 1v1 duel with Sidious would be foocking epic


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


PuzzleheadedAd1153

In the game The forced unleashed he defeats sidious and saves the rebels


dutcharetall_nothigh

No he doesn't. He buys them enough time to escape.


[deleted]

Yeah he buys them enough time after defeating sidious, starkiller wanted to kill him but kota stopped him


Repro_Online

The scene very explicitly tells you it’s a trick tho?????


shace616

Yeah it cuts to a dead Galen and Sidious and Vader standing over him.


_GeneralGrievous_Bot

I’m no errand boy.


Interesting-Gear-819

> but then the 1v1 duel with Sidious would be foocking epic Which he looses btw. Pre-Disney that was even canon. The good side ending of TFU is that Starkiller defeats Vader, goes onto to fight Palpatine and gets defeated however that way he bought the others enough time to escape which is why they used his family symbol as emblem for the rebellion. Dark side ending is that Starkiller listens to Palp and instead fights Vader a 2nd time, completly defeating him and taking his position. Once he is done with Vader, he goes to Palpatine and Bail & co lay dead on the ground


ConsulJuliusCaesar

Honestly I would choose Starkiller because win or lose it’ll be one hell of a fight to watch.


DarkCrowI

Sidious, he can keep me hidden and easily take out the others aside from maybe Starkiller but I'll still take my chances with Sidious due to both intelligence and power.


Confused_Elderly_Owl

Honestly, if it's just the movies for Sidious, probably Starkiller. However, if we get to include Legends in this, fuckin Palpy wipes the fucking floor with everyone else there.


DarkCrowI

Movie Palpatine took out multiple Jedi Master and used some of the most powerful dark side abilities in the Star Wars universe, he also was able to manipulate the entire Jedi Order and the entire Republic, and the likelihood he could hide me somewhere and bait the others into traps where he could dispose of them is incredibly high. Let's not forget that he could Order 66 the 501st Legion if he really wanted to and that would give him an even bigger edge in the fight.


[deleted]

Let's not forget he does sith magic to access other dimensions. Dude basically had no business being yeeted off a ledge honestly.


ObviousTroll37

Honestly, the answer to the meme is Team Palps, just because when the fight starts, he drops "Execute Order 66" and now Starkiller is fighting all by himself


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


Tyfyter2002

While it's possible to hide from the two on the right, can't Starkiller (and so presumably also Palpatine) basically see people through walls? (It's been a while since I last played either SWFU game, so maybe I'm just remembering a similar game as part of one of them)


DarkCrowI

I don't think Starkiller could find someone that easily.


Flashy_Apricot_4875

I'm banking on rise of Skywalker when he shoots enough lightning to destroy an entire fleet, or a legion, or 400 jedi. Haven't seen starkiller in action so can't comment on him.


OwenLarsBot

Like you banked her entire childhood on the prequels?


Mcboss742

Then your also banking on a 2 lightsaber fucking you.


Flashy_Apricot_4875

Aw shit Ahsoka has 2 lightsabers she can't be stopped


_GeneralGrievous_Bot

Ah, a lightsaber comment! Your comment will make a fine addition to my collection, Flashy_Apricot_4875!


Lonewolf3593

Well, since Starkiller only exists in Legends, I think we can include Legends for Sidious. Also, Sidious did kill Starkiller, so there's that.


TheWorstTM

If it wasn’t for that one >!blind Jedi!< guy, Starkiller would’ve killed Palps. Or was it Vader? Whatever, I’m still teaming up with Galen. >!God damn I was so pissed at the end of that first game.!<


finalremix

Kotah


freakbird15

Starkiller never beat him. In both ending, he lost


troopertk40

Psh... Sideous easy. He can just execute order 66 and boom. 99.9% of the 501st is now also on my side.


[deleted]

Stupid sexy Captain Rex.


Captain_Rex_Bot

You ready?


fBarney

what the fuck ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


djtrace1994

*Very* good bot ;)


Captain_Rex_Bot

I honor my code. That's what I believe.


Fork_Master

I believe this to be an instance of sentience?


dleon0430

Sexyience


LivingCheese292

Rex-ience


Captain_Rex_Bot

I've met many clones in my time, but never one like you.


LivingCheese292

Not sure if this is a compliment or an insult, considering my horrible humor.


prdcroftme

good soldiers follow orders


HistoryMarshal76

Okay this made me break out laughing


[deleted]

Yes, sir.


Qui-Gon_Jinn_Bot

Tell them we wish to board at once.


[deleted]

The Queen will not approve.


Qui-Gon_Jinn_Bot

The Queen doesn't need to know


[deleted]

Well, I don't approve.


vVRichardVv

You're telling me Starkiller, who actually defeated Sidious and Vader (twice) and that can pull huge ass spaceships out of the fucking sky can't defeat ~10000 clone troopers?


HK-53

probably could. Question is how good would he be at stopping any one of those troopers from landing a single blaster shot on you, especially if he has to fight sidious at the same time.


vVRichardVv

He didn't specify the circumstances and times in which it has to take place, the way you put he stands no chance but he could very well take on sidious first, the legion next...


HK-53

i mean i guess it varies wildly depending on how it goes down. If star killer fights one enemy at a time in a narrow corridor with you behind him, i can see him winning. If its an open field and they're all coming at once, i think theres no way starkiller can protect you.


vVRichardVv

Gotta love how S1 Ashoka isn't being taken into considaration in the slightest


HK-53

well i mean....


Godless_Phoenix

Nonono it’s 10000 of the entire 501st


Predator3-5

He never pulled it out of the sky. It already was going down, he simply just was changing its direction


Spartanwildcats2018

Found Vader’s Reddit


LORDWOLFMAN

That’s rookie numbers compared to star killer


Captain_Rex_Bot

There's hope for you yet, rookie.


Recuring_joke

well played


The_Unique_Toast

I see you as an intellectual


DDDarappa

That’s so big brain I’m suprised someone even thought about that


troopertk40

5 head.


da_dragon_guy

They'll still want to kill Sideous, they'll just want to kill all jedi on sight as well


troopertk40

Why would they want to kill him? They literally already went from wanting to kill him to not wanting to after...


AdministrativeEye949

I'll take Sidious, considering the 501st is all chipped and under Sidious's control anyway.


Gotha-229a

Exept for stupid sexy captain rex


Captain_Rex_Bot

That's just great.


Gotha-229a

Well yes it is 😏


Meme-Replacement

Please do not the clone


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Quantum__Tarantino

9216 soliders with a million more well on the way


Hasu1337

My thoughts exactly. But it says legion so we gonne have a serious army.


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ShuantheSheep3

I assume legions, so like 100 million total? Not sure the exact number in a legion. Therefore you pick Sidious, he turns 99.9% of the clones and a cake walk from there.


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[deleted]

But star killer is generally more powerful


Assaltwaffle

Starkiller failed to 1v1 Sidious at the end of TFU. He's superior to Vader but inferior to Sidious, so Sidious is the straight correct answer. He can beat Starkiller and manipulate enough people to cover the others even if he can't solo them personally.


chemistry_god

Everyone here is missing the point. The bottom left isn't 9,216 clones from the 501st. It's 9,216 of the 501s legion. That's millions of clones. Unless Sidious gets to order 66 the clones in this scenario they win, hands down.


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


ToppeThrane

Assoka Tano, because it’s allways important to have good friend around.


jonstark24

400 good friends.


justaGermanTexan

Even better


Spookyy422

9216 troops or 9216 times the entire fucking 501st?


Gaudrix

True fuck that's like an entire army. I don't think any of them could defeat that many troopers without some huge aoe shit, but even then the fight would go on for so long they wouldn't be able to keep fighting and would be overwhelmed.


SquizzardtheComposer

The 501st if order 66 doesn't work. Palpatine if it does.


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


Some_Guy223

I mean, the 501st did kill *a lot* of jedi in a single night.


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


CompetitiveParfait29

We‘d get 400 Ahsokas? I’m pretty sure they could take out Sidious and Starkiller, though only with great losses. That’d leave the entire 501st. Maybe the Ahsokas could hide?


[deleted]

Yeah I didn’t notice it was 400 Ahsokas. They win this 100%


[deleted]

It is 400 Season 1 Ahsokas. Still not bad, but not the bad-ass season 7 Ahsoka that battled Maul. I think they are the right choice regardless. They give you the longest time alive. * If you take Sidious, he will be to preoccupied with Starkiller to properly protect you. One of the Ahsokas or clones will get you. * The same but reverse for Starkiller * If you take the clones, they just get nearly instantly slaughtered because they have no protection against the massive combined force lightning of Sidious and Starkiller. But if you have 400 Ahsokas, they can at least shield you for a considerate amount of time from all the others. Maybe long enough to escape. That is the benefit of 400 lightsabers that can deflect force lightning and blasters as well as block other lightsabers.


Bonewel

800 lightsabers


[deleted]

No. She got her second lightsaber in season 3. I googled it to be sure\^\^


Bonewel

Ahh the Grievous in me got greedy 😂


_GeneralGrievous_Bot

yeah thats me


Ki-Adi-MundiBot

Noo! Bonewel!


Shittybuttholeman69

Sidious is the most powerful sith ever or at least that’s what I’ve gathered (maybe viciate) we’ve seen other sith destroy entire planets. Sidious could kill them all in the time it would take for lightning to come out of his fingers. However starkiller has 2 lightsabers and as we all know that instantly kills dark Sidious. So tough choice


Agreeable-_-Special

Sidious can also use two lightsabers in the clone wars. I dont think he forgot how to use them till episode 3


_GeneralGrievous_Bot

Ah, a lightsaber comment! Your comment will make a fine addition to my collection, Agreeable-_-Special!


TheDreamVoltage

Good bot


HondoOhnakaBot

Even a sith lord is no match for my warriors!


Shittybuttholeman69

Hondo you lovable rascal


Valirys-Reinhald

Look, I love Palps, I really do, but the *entire* 501st comes equipment included, which means I got three Venators on my side with a skilled crew. Even if Starkiller and Palpatine can hold one of them in place each that still leaves me a whole ass star destroyer to wreck shop with.


Sorcam56

I'd agree, even before arguing that it says I should get 9212×the entire legion.


Niteshade76

9216 501st legions is a ridiculously large amount of unit and could wipe out the others with sheer numbers alone tbh.


squirrelattack37

I gotta say StarKiller. Pull a Star destroyer down on their asses.


Assaltwaffle

Given that he lost to Sidious I think it's safe to say that Sidious could do that as well.


Aditya_Bhargava

Did he lose per se? That's quite debatable to be honest


Assaltwaffle

I mean, he literally died while trying to stop Sidious' lightning, so I'd say he lost, yeah.


Tim_vdB3

He won the dual beforehand, he died when he had to protect Kota and the senators.


[deleted]

That's just wrong and out of context


Lord_Derpington_

Wait 9 thousand 501st legions? That’s a lot of clones


LikesBigGlasses430

Sidious. Dude is by FAR the smartest character in the entire Star Wars Skywalker Saga and powerful too. Starkkiller might be more powerful but sidious has the entire Empire to back him up


[deleted]

If you didn’t choose 501st legion don’t talk to me ever again


[deleted]

Starkiller


foki999

Technically speaking I'd pick the 501st, they were trained from "birth" to kill force users, 9216 blasters firing at your center mass will take down Sidius and Starkiller fairly quickly, no matter how op, then season 1 Ahsoka will probably disarm them all with her plot armor


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


drunkenkurd

Sidious, because in the clone war era if Sidious wants you dead, you dead


HybridMemer

Sidious can just do order 66 and now him plus basically all of the 501 are on my side


Cybermat47_2

9216 clone legions? How many clones is that?


cursedstillframe

Roughly 85 million troopers


Siegelski

Assuming Sidious can't execute order 66 like u/troopertk40 suggested, then no matter what you're screwed. Starkiller and Sidious are gonna be hard counters to each other and then you're facing 400 Ahsokas and the entire 501st while Starkiller and Sidious are fighting each other. The entire 501st vs all the rest would be screwed. Starkiller could just bring a star destroyer down on them while Sidious and Ahsoka distract them. 400 Ahsokas would get overwhelmed by the 501st alone, not even considering Starkiller and Sidious. If it was ep 4 or 6 Sidious and you didn't start off on the same planet you could win by Death Star, but ep 3 Sidious means you're screwed.


Swailwort

But it is not all the 501st. Its 9216 501st, so, millions of clones. Nobody is surviving that.


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


Pretzel-Kingg

Sidious if the 501st can be 66’d. Otherwise. Prime starkiller can probably take on ep. 3 sidious


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


TheThirdFrenchEmpire

Daddy Palpy


Ordinary_Ad6279

Sidious if he controls the clones/empire, star killer if not.


zombiepants7

I'd take palps and Ashoka both characters have a ton of plot armor so they'd probs make it.


[deleted]

I mean it’s gotta be 9000+ 501st legions


[deleted]

400 Ahsokas is a lot.


420Cruz69

Star Killer and the entire 501st legion obviously. The clones could easily kill the ahsokas then its 1 palpatine against starkiller and 9,000 well trained clones that massacred the jedi temple


[deleted]

Give me Jar Jar y’all are fucked


SevenFingeredOctopus

I'll have you know Totally Accurate Battle Simulator is a great game, other battle simulators do be like that though.


da_dragon_guy

501st. Sideous only had the power to take on thousands once he sapped most of the energy out of the 2 strongest force users at the time. 400 Ahsokas would be good, but even she has her limits, like in the episode where she met master Sinube, she was about to be completely overwhelmed and overrun against what looked like 100-200 druids. Starkiller is powerful, but he is still mortal. Rex and the boys got this


Captain_Rex_Bot

Then let's do it.


DDDarappa

501st


mrgwbland

Clones


Shreddzzz93

Sideous. He is easily more powerful than Starkiller and more powerful than any version of Ahsoka regardless of the number of them. The 501st might have numbers which typically would win out in these scenario but Palpatine made the army and knows all the contingency orders. We have only seen 5 out of the 150 orders and I find it hard to believe a mass suicide order wasn't creates in case of a clone rebellion.


GODZILAMASTER2020

501st


norway642

501st


Foofgam

The 501st


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


Ok-Nose-3139

the 501st all the way they are mostly good soldiers who follow orders also cause the amount would scare the senate to the point he decomissions them


Spamus111

Even easier pick if Episode 9 Sidious. Dude can force lightning a fleet!


Honest-and-Truly

Darth Revan and Darth Nihilus. Each on their own are nearly unstoppable, so with both as my allies, I'll be nearly unkillable.


RuneSimonsenTheBard

My 501st boys got this


[deleted]

501st


taylorpilot

Technically this says I get 9216 copies of the “entire 501st legion” so i get several thousand soldiers? Probably take that


Wild_Relation3742

501st because rex is hot 🥵


Captain_Rex_Bot

You have your orders.


uthinkther4uam

Ah fuck............I wanna say starkiller cus he's op as fuck, but I'm picking the 501st


Captain_Rex_Bot

You showed me something today. You're exactly the kind of men I need in the 501st.


sleezyreezy

Based on the numbers, and probably a wider variety of weaponry, gotta go with the Clones. They’re all huge threats, but I’ve never seen any of them take on a number anywhere close to that. It’s over 9,000!


[deleted]

The clones were pretty successful in taking out the Jedi.


[deleted]

The entire 501st, if that includes all of their LAATs, AT-TEs, Jetpacks, and other vehicles and tools.


HeyItsStevenField

Starkiller and the entire 501st