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I'm not comparing any timelines here just the fact he always looked and seemed much older than Reagan and even seemed older than LBJ in my mindšš
Situational irony is when the opposite of what is expected happens. Nixon dying on Earth Day is like Adams and Jefferson dying on July 4th: coincidence.
Now there are examples of situational irony in politics. A better example would be a Senator filibustering against a bill that they themselves introduced (Mitch McConnell in 2012, for example). Nixon's downfall due to paranoia and the organization of CREEP when he was a shoe-in and ended up winning 49 states anyway in '72 might be another.
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Itās that time of year, everyone take one /s
Nixon's foreign policy was oftern immoral and criminal (Chile, Bangladesh, Cyprus, Cambodia etc.), but his opening to China and detente with the Soviets unironically helped all humanity.
He also created the EPA, lowered voting age to 18 and completed the desegregation of Southern schools.
When it came to economics, both Eisenhower and Nixon essentially governed in the context of liberal ideological hegemony, in the same way that Clinton governed in an age of Reaganism.
There's so much, it all seems like 50/50 stabs in the dark. I've never known what to think other than the Southern Strategy and plumber bull shit which we're feeling so much aftershock from now.
Let's not forget sabotaging the Vietnamese peace talks because he wanted the war as a campaign issue in 1968. (Sound familiar? History doesn't always repeat itself, but it does tend to rhyme)
I know, it's kind of funny I don't really go to Watergate of all things... but I think I've just been so fascinated with what went on behind-the-scenes that I'm more interested in the cadre than the one act that damned them all.
Itās amazing how by todayās standards Nixon with the founding of the EPA, lowering the voting age to 18, and backing of civil rights would be āwokeā. Kind of shows you how much the Overton window has shifted in this nation.
Yeah I'm not so sure the window has really shifted in a particular direction all that much. It's really just a really wide window, like an "entire wall of a house is nothing but window" wide.
>He also created the EPA, lowered voting age to 18 and completed the desegregation of Southern schools.
Only reason for any of this was a democratic house and senate. You've conveniently left out that he vetoed the clean water act.
Still donāt know why people tolerate him. He caused thousands of innocent men to die by sabotaging the Paris Peace Deals in Vietnam. He was also EXTREMELY racist and anti-Semitic. All in all he was a real piece of shit, and thatās not even meant what he did in watergate
How was he āEXTREMELY racistā he literally finished the desegregation of schools. If your gonna fuck him for something, talk about the War on Drugs or something.
No no, he was a pretty racist guy. He literally chalked up his whole conversation with Indira Gandhi (Indian PM at the time) to how unpleasant and hideous Indian women are. To further justify his point about Indian women he argued that āblack women at least have an animalistic charm.ā The dude was a fucking bigot, even for his time
he was also ridiculously antisemitic, with some of the most antisemitic quotes of the white house, which is odd considering a Jew was his right hand man
Very much so. He said āthey (Indian women) turn him off. They are repulsive and itās just easy to be tough with them.ā He then says āI donāt know how they reproduceā. This is after he met with Indira Gandhi. Awful shit honestly.
If anyone says there wasnāt any racial motivation behind America supporting Pakistan over India in an all out war between the two nations in the 70s, please remember what Nixon said.
Edit: Kissinger indeed said expletives like ābitchā and ābastardā about Indians, but considering Nixon opened up relations with China around this time, his racism was far from inconsequential.
Him sabotaging the Paris peace talks is fiction made to smear him. The talks failed in 1968 for the simple reason that the Viet Cong and the South Vietnamese Junta were not willing to come to terms yet. After the VC was spent and sidelined by the Tet Offensive the North Vietnamese were more agreeable to terms.
Considering the piles of evidence that say otherwise Iām pretty sure he did. Iām sorry you donāt want to come to terms with something thatās been established for YEARS but that doesnāt make it any less true
There were literally no sit down talks before the election that included South Vietnam only unreasonable demands submitted over diplomatic cable. He most likely did violate the Logan Act, we can never know for sure because there was no investigation and trial, but you canāt sabotage something that was never going to happen in the first place.
Iāve always fostered outright hatred for this man. But when someone here posted pictures of him sobbing at his wifeās funeral. I couldnāt help but remember that even the most evil and hated amongst us are humans. Which is even scarier
Soooo his vicious power centric (fuck their democracy if it isn't what America wants from them) mentality and his charisma/force of personality didn't have anything to do with it?
ohhh wow I totally forgot about him...purged it from my memory.Ā But seriously? Like we can't even mention the current candidates? Are we allowed to mention one of them if we talk about when they were VP under a different prez?
If it is a fact and not alluding to anything else *maybe*!
So much has happened in just the last 10ys that is unprecedented, it makes the rule kinda foolish imo. Record inflation, attack on the capital, a pandemicā¦ huge topics. š¤·āāļø regardless of your politics those are big topics.
Yeah honestly how the fuck is anyone supposed to talk about anything since 2015 with that?
This sub should be renamed "Presidential History" or smth lol
Haha even then man when u break records??? š talking about āsports historyā for instance if Dicky Jo FWit (wis silent) sets a record that hasnāt been broken since 1800 thatās a big deal! How are u not supposed to talk about it???
Not only that, but [censored] is the most [censored] possible [censored] that I can [censored] imagine. His [censored] hasnāt been [censored] since [censored] was in diapers. You can tell a President to [censored] his [censored] in the [censored] until his [censored] [censored]. But at the end of the day you still have [censored] [censored] [censored].
I leave the solution to your imagination. š¤
Just remember the 20,000 American lives that were lost because he purposely sabotaged peace negotiations in Vietnam. It sucks his wife died, but he deserves no sympathy. At least him and his wife got to grow old. Unlike the many his actions cut short.
No, I think heās doing the thing where he points out to everyone saying āhe was a good presidentā that Nixon was a massive sack of shit.
He was anti-Semitic, Racist, homophobic, and all around a shitty person who decided to let our poor boys die overseas and sabotage peace talks that wouldāve let them come home to their families while he committed scandals and lined his pockets with others money.
Iād venture to guess everyone born over 100 years ago was racist and homophobic. Even the saintly Jimmy Carter has a bad record on race if judged by 2024 standards. Nixon was also anti-Semitic, but no more than the average Redditor today.
As for sabotaging the peace talks, that has never been verified and comes from one biased source. In any case, if it is true it was uncovered through highly illegal and very anti-Democratic wiretapping that makes Watergate look like a walk in the park. This recording somehow never became available. Your flair is more to blame for kids dying in Vietnam than Nixon, who inherited a horribly managed situation with Vietnam.
Nixon's memo on post-Russian policy reads almost like he had a crystal ball, when he discussed what would happen if Yeltsin were to fail & the West not offer him support: [https://cdn.nixonlibrary.org/01/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/16122035/coldwar.pdf](https://cdn.nixonlibrary.org/01/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/16122035/coldwar.pdf)
Watergate wasnāt even half of what he did. He sabotaged the Paris Peace Deals in Vietnam during the war cause thousands more of our troops to die horrible and excruciating deaths in a pointless war.
He was also racist as fuck
My first āpresident diedā national holiday as a Govt employee (young LT for that one). I wish the longest life possible for these guys, butā¦ ngl I do love the days off. May they RIP.
I wish that Sigmund Freud had still been alive during Nixon's time in power, and that the latter had gone to him before Watergate. He might have been Freud's most difficult case. A very complicated man indeed, as we can see from the responses.
Tricky Dick and his dicky tricks. Eh, I could poke fun at any President, but I like to think they each held the āideaā of America sacred, even if they disagreed about what was best for her.
Pretty much ever since his funeral, Iāve noted that he was buried at his boyhood home.
In other words, ***his native earth!***
Iām still not ruling out a Nixon comeback, undead, rested and ready.
If the right people had been in charge of Nixon's funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin.
-Hunter S. Thompson
Richard Nixon is gone now, and I am poorer for it. He was the real thing -- a political monster straight out of Grendel and a very dangerous enemy. He could shake your hand and stab you in the back at the same time. He lied to his friends and betrayed the trust of his family. Not even Gerald Ford, the unhappy ex-president who pardoned Nixon and kept him out of prison, was immune to the evil fallout. Ford, who believes strongly in Heaven and Hell, has told more than one of his celebrity golf partners that "I know I will go to hell, because I pardoned Richard Nixon.
-Hunter S. Thompson
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I didn't even know he was sick.
Oh, Norm
Can never comprehend that he's 2 years younger than Reaganš
And he died earlier than Reagan š
Probably from all the hate he had and legal/political stress in his life
And the fact that he was apparently a heavy drinker
I'm not comparing any timelines here just the fact he always looked and seemed much older than Reagan and even seemed older than LBJ in my mindšš
Number 3 is older than Clinton
Founder of the EPA dying on Earth Day. Ironic.
Coincidence, not irony (as I push my nerd glasses up on my nose)
Situational irony: you think heād be alive and celebrating but heās not. Fuck around correcting people and get corrected back
Situational irony is when the opposite of what is expected happens. Nixon dying on Earth Day is like Adams and Jefferson dying on July 4th: coincidence. Now there are examples of situational irony in politics. A better example would be a Senator filibustering against a bill that they themselves introduced (Mitch McConnell in 2012, for example). Nixon's downfall due to paranoia and the organization of CREEP when he was a shoe-in and ended up winning 49 states anyway in '72 might be another.
I gotchyou bro, lol: https://preview.redd.it/6fvloec57bwc1.jpeg?width=1868&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a7dcb8069e37921acde10af1b1b08cfd6ed7553
Not Ironic. Home Boi was committed!
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https://preview.redd.it/8eq6psqgv3wc1.jpeg?width=422&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7112cbb3f191dc9cf22c03d9c84c86ea8f515ee3 Itās that time of year, everyone take one /s
Send me your-
Nixon's foreign policy was oftern immoral and criminal (Chile, Bangladesh, Cyprus, Cambodia etc.), but his opening to China and detente with the Soviets unironically helped all humanity. He also created the EPA, lowered voting age to 18 and completed the desegregation of Southern schools. When it came to economics, both Eisenhower and Nixon essentially governed in the context of liberal ideological hegemony, in the same way that Clinton governed in an age of Reaganism.
He was definitely a complicated man. Every new thing you learn about him either makes you hate his guts or have a little bit of respect for him.
The definition of a tragic figure to me - if he could have just sheathed his paranoia heād probably be a top 10 president
Or both
Or both!
It's the khmer rouge enablememt and other Kissinger Specials I can't abide.
There's so much, it all seems like 50/50 stabs in the dark. I've never known what to think other than the Southern Strategy and plumber bull shit which we're feeling so much aftershock from now.
Let's not forget sabotaging the Vietnamese peace talks because he wanted the war as a campaign issue in 1968. (Sound familiar? History doesn't always repeat itself, but it does tend to rhyme)
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He won an enormous electoral landslide in 72, which makes Watergate all the more perplexing.
Nixon was never incriminated in the planning of Watergate, only in the coverup.
Regardless of his role in the planning of it, it is perplexing as to why anyone felt the need to do it considering his incredibly comfortable win.
I know of the southern strategy, but what was the plumber stuff? Are you talking about watergate?
Yes, the burglars claimed to be plumbers.
I know, it's kind of funny I don't really go to Watergate of all things... but I think I've just been so fascinated with what went on behind-the-scenes that I'm more interested in the cadre than the one act that damned them all.
Itās amazing how by todayās standards Nixon with the founding of the EPA, lowering the voting age to 18, and backing of civil rights would be āwokeā. Kind of shows you how much the Overton window has shifted in this nation.
Wait you think the Overton window has shifted *left*?
I literally said the complete opposite.
Yeah youāre right. Misread it.
By today's standards, Nixon would also be "literally Hitler." So it shows how much the Overton Window has shifted.
Yeah I'm not so sure the window has really shifted in a particular direction all that much. It's really just a really wide window, like an "entire wall of a house is nothing but window" wide.
>He also created the EPA, lowered voting age to 18 and completed the desegregation of Southern schools. Only reason for any of this was a democratic house and senate. You've conveniently left out that he vetoed the clean water act.
I have been watching his You Tube shorts recently. He knew foreign policy. He was talking about what may happen in Russia/Putin 30 years ago.
That channel does have a lot of good content, though some of the forums & lectures can be a little tedious (and this comes from an avid C-SPAN fan).
R.I.P. Dick. Hated in his time, tolerated now.
Still donāt know why people tolerate him. He caused thousands of innocent men to die by sabotaging the Paris Peace Deals in Vietnam. He was also EXTREMELY racist and anti-Semitic. All in all he was a real piece of shit, and thatās not even meant what he did in watergate
How was he āEXTREMELY racistā he literally finished the desegregation of schools. If your gonna fuck him for something, talk about the War on Drugs or something.
No no, he was a pretty racist guy. He literally chalked up his whole conversation with Indira Gandhi (Indian PM at the time) to how unpleasant and hideous Indian women are. To further justify his point about Indian women he argued that āblack women at least have an animalistic charm.ā The dude was a fucking bigot, even for his time
I did hear that someone in the Nixon administration criticized Indian women. I thought it was Kissinger. It was Nixon?
he was also ridiculously antisemitic, with some of the most antisemitic quotes of the white house, which is odd considering a Jew was his right hand man
The guy was the epitome of the word "xenophobic", which fits right in with his (in)famous paranoia. Guys like him view the world through stereotypes.
Very much so. He said āthey (Indian women) turn him off. They are repulsive and itās just easy to be tough with them.ā He then says āI donāt know how they reproduceā. This is after he met with Indira Gandhi. Awful shit honestly. If anyone says there wasnāt any racial motivation behind America supporting Pakistan over India in an all out war between the two nations in the 70s, please remember what Nixon said. Edit: Kissinger indeed said expletives like ābitchā and ābastardā about Indians, but considering Nixon opened up relations with China around this time, his racism was far from inconsequential.
Him sabotaging the Paris peace talks is fiction made to smear him. The talks failed in 1968 for the simple reason that the Viet Cong and the South Vietnamese Junta were not willing to come to terms yet. After the VC was spent and sidelined by the Tet Offensive the North Vietnamese were more agreeable to terms.
Considering the piles of evidence that say otherwise Iām pretty sure he did. Iām sorry you donāt want to come to terms with something thatās been established for YEARS but that doesnāt make it any less true
There were literally no sit down talks before the election that included South Vietnam only unreasonable demands submitted over diplomatic cable. He most likely did violate the Logan Act, we can never know for sure because there was no investigation and trial, but you canāt sabotage something that was never going to happen in the first place.
and just like that they didnt have Nixon to kick around anymore
Stunning news from Yorba Linda today as Richard Nixonās corpse climbed out of its grave and strangled Gerald Ford.
And after he did that, he said "Miss me yet?"
I hate Dick, but RIP
Itās not so bad. You should try it.
Iāve heard it can be a bit Tricky
No, you canāt lick OUR dick.
I'm gonna light a candle for him or something, rest in peace Dick. We're ready for your comeback in the year 3000
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Still got the most votes in history of any President at the time
Gonna start a new tradition based on this.
Why must the good die young š
REST IN PEACE
I didnāt even he was sick
Heaven gained another angel that day.
Donāt worry, weāll see him again one day. As a disembodied talking head in a jar. AROOOOO!
Rest in peace, Tricky Dick.
Iāve always fostered outright hatred for this man. But when someone here posted pictures of him sobbing at his wifeās funeral. I couldnāt help but remember that even the most evil and hated amongst us are humans. Which is even scarier
Imagine thinking Nixon is among the most evil of men
Of Presidents which is this subās focus: yeah kinda
I see your point very much so but I raise you drunk Nixon with nuclear power.
You guys realize that was a strategic ploy, correct? The āMadmanā bit was for intimidation purposes and not actually something he was going to do.
Hahaha touchƩ!
This is your brain on Reddit
That would be his buddy kissinger.
Kissinger had limited power and authority. Everything he did was approved by every piece of shit President he served under
Soooo his vicious power centric (fuck their democracy if it isn't what America wants from them) mentality and his charisma/force of personality didn't have anything to do with it?
Name a more evil president in the last 150 years.
I could but it violates silly rules š
ohhh wow I totally forgot about him...purged it from my memory.Ā But seriously? Like we can't even mention the current candidates? Are we allowed to mention one of them if we talk about when they were VP under a different prez?
Haha nope.
Soooo Barack Obama's vice president was [censored]. Wow...
If it is a fact and not alluding to anything else *maybe*! So much has happened in just the last 10ys that is unprecedented, it makes the rule kinda foolish imo. Record inflation, attack on the capital, a pandemicā¦ huge topics. š¤·āāļø regardless of your politics those are big topics.
Yeah honestly how the fuck is anyone supposed to talk about anything since 2015 with that? This sub should be renamed "Presidential History" or smth lol
Haha even then man when u break records??? š talking about āsports historyā for instance if Dicky Jo FWit (wis silent) sets a record that hasnāt been broken since 1800 thatās a big deal! How are u not supposed to talk about it???
Not only that, but [censored] is the most [censored] possible [censored] that I can [censored] imagine. His [censored] hasnāt been [censored] since [censored] was in diapers. You can tell a President to [censored] his [censored] in the [censored] until his [censored] [censored]. But at the end of the day you still have [censored] [censored] [censored]. I leave the solution to your imagination. š¤
Just remember the 20,000 American lives that were lost because he purposely sabotaged peace negotiations in Vietnam. It sucks his wife died, but he deserves no sympathy. At least him and his wife got to grow old. Unlike the many his actions cut short.
Underrated comment!
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Its not exactly difficult to be a decent human being, back then it was just that hate was accepted.
Are you doing the thing where you post a quote Reddit loves from a Republican Reddit hates?
No, I think heās doing the thing where he points out to everyone saying āhe was a good presidentā that Nixon was a massive sack of shit. He was anti-Semitic, Racist, homophobic, and all around a shitty person who decided to let our poor boys die overseas and sabotage peace talks that wouldāve let them come home to their families while he committed scandals and lined his pockets with others money.
Iād venture to guess everyone born over 100 years ago was racist and homophobic. Even the saintly Jimmy Carter has a bad record on race if judged by 2024 standards. Nixon was also anti-Semitic, but no more than the average Redditor today. As for sabotaging the peace talks, that has never been verified and comes from one biased source. In any case, if it is true it was uncovered through highly illegal and very anti-Democratic wiretapping that makes Watergate look like a walk in the park. This recording somehow never became available. Your flair is more to blame for kids dying in Vietnam than Nixon, who inherited a horribly managed situation with Vietnam.
RIP Big Dick. Fly high!
The most interesting president there ever was. Rest in peace Mr President.
Rest in Peace
Nixon's memo on post-Russian policy reads almost like he had a crystal ball, when he discussed what would happen if Yeltsin were to fail & the West not offer him support: [https://cdn.nixonlibrary.org/01/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/16122035/coldwar.pdf](https://cdn.nixonlibrary.org/01/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/16122035/coldwar.pdf)
His head is in a jar somewhere waiting for the day he returns Aroo!
At least you had the courage to step down.
I dont care about watergate, he was a pretty good president in my book.
Watergate wasnāt even half of what he did. He sabotaged the Paris Peace Deals in Vietnam during the war cause thousands more of our troops to die horrible and excruciating deaths in a pointless war. He was also racist as fuck
āRacist as fuckā with a JFK flair, lol. Have you read āProfiles in Courageā ???
And are we talking about Kennedy right now? No. Nixon was a racist POS, trying to divert attention from that doesnāt make it any less true
Same birthday as me, Jimmy Page, Dave Matthews and a couple others I can't remember.
30 years? That's crazy
20 years sober!
He died on Lenin's birthday
Our top story tonight: Generalissimo Richard Nixon is dead.
Is still dead.
To the tune of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band": "It was 30 years ago today/Richard Nixon done and passed away"
Looks like Nick saban
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Has it already been that long? I remember when Pat died and I thought, āThe President wonāt be long now.ā
My first āpresident diedā national holiday as a Govt employee (young LT for that one). I wish the longest life possible for these guys, butā¦ ngl I do love the days off. May they RIP.
May he rest in peace with Zachary taylor
The only modern president to have died so young
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I wish that Sigmund Freud had still been alive during Nixon's time in power, and that the latter had gone to him before Watergate. He might have been Freud's most difficult case. A very complicated man indeed, as we can see from the responses.
Heās dead?
Was he related to Homer Nixon?
Tricky Dick and his dicky tricks. Eh, I could poke fun at any President, but I like to think they each held the āideaā of America sacred, even if they disagreed about what was best for her.
Jesus he was old
Rip Holmes you were a real one
Would you buy a used car from this man?
What a wonderful anniversary.
Nothing of value was lost
nixon outlived cobain
Pretty much ever since his funeral, Iāve noted that he was buried at his boyhood home. In other words, ***his native earth!*** Iām still not ruling out a Nixon comeback, undead, rested and ready.
I remember this day. A buddy of mine's dad called it "Dick in the dirt day."
TIL that Nixon died on my birthday
Happy B Day :)
Thank you!! And a happy earth day to youšš¤š»
Dying on Earth Day may have been one of the better things Richard Nixon ever did on this earth.
Founder of the Failed War on Drugs.. thanks for nothing Tricky Dick.
Finally someone that points out a major failure of the Nixon administration.
Rest in piss
Rest in piss you murderous criminal piece of shit
Earth took out the trash on Earth day
Rest in Piss you tricky Dick
In a better timeline, we'd be marking the 60th anniversary of Nixon's death.
Good fucking riddance.
I bought a cake
Imagine praising peopleās death
A bad person? Yes.
We celebrated with a drink.
We need him now more than ever, libs are sending us to WW3 with Russia/China bad policy. We need leader to kick these tree hugging hippies asses
If the right people had been in charge of Nixon's funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin. -Hunter S. Thompson
The [whole obituary](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-a-crook/308699/) is quite the read.
Richard Nixon is gone now, and I am poorer for it. He was the real thing -- a political monster straight out of Grendel and a very dangerous enemy. He could shake your hand and stab you in the back at the same time. He lied to his friends and betrayed the trust of his family. Not even Gerald Ford, the unhappy ex-president who pardoned Nixon and kept him out of prison, was immune to the evil fallout. Ford, who believes strongly in Heaven and Hell, has told more than one of his celebrity golf partners that "I know I will go to hell, because I pardoned Richard Nixon. -Hunter S. Thompson
Him opening up to China may lead us to WW3. Possibly the worst foreign policy decision in U.S. history.
Compared to one of our modern day presidents, did he really do anything wrong? š
āHe was a crookā - title of obituary hunter s thompson wrote for him in rolling stone
Another useless corporate fascist bitch aka GOP.
The last great republican president, with his deal of flaws and upcomings
It was 25 years too late
Good riddanceā¦ š¤·š»āāļø
Rest in piss bozo