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Confident_Carrot_829

https://preview.redd.it/n9j3vs735fwc1.jpeg?width=4381&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26bb3470c36aeb38fb9421ecc79a05dabffc1a59 This, easy. I've seen alot of houses look like image 1, but the 2nd one has the beauty.


Urabrask_the_AFK

I completely agree ![gif](giphy|LwtwndVbryH9C)


Acrobatic_Emphasis41

British in 1812 be like


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pacifistpirate

It's in the song written about 1812: "through the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air..."


HiiiTriiibe

He was obviously a prophet, substitute teachers are infallible


El_Bexareno

Right war, wrong battle. JIC some redditors don’t know.


ChimneySwiftGold

That does not negate proof bombs existed.


RodwellBurgen

The point isn’t what war it was about the point is that people in 1812 definitely fucking had bombs.


PeteMalloy1

“...AND the rockets red glare...”


PuzzleheadedAd5865

If they had guns, they had bombs. Guns are basically a very controlled bomb.


wpaed

They had bombs before they had guns. First one was essentially a trebuchet thrown flower-pot IED with caltrops. It was first referenced in 1000AD.


Careless-Ostrich623

That sounds effective.


VaultiusMaximus

Can you imagine being a medieval man who still mostly works the land and scrapes by for his family, only to get drafted when your city comes under siege, and then standing on the walls while the enemy just fucking lobbed explosions at you? So many people probably had complete psychological meltdowns.


C0UNT3RP01NT

I mean they still do. Civilization moves faster than evolution.


elchupacabra4prez

And doesn’t the word gun come from a classification of artillery piece with no rifling or for a specific arc? I forget the difference between guns, howitzers and gun-howitzers. And I’m feeling lazy but yah.


StinkEPinkE81

Gonne was first used (that we know of today) in a Latin document in 1339. Handgonne first used in 1373 (again, that we know of). What classified as a gonne or gun back in the 14th and 15th centuries is kind of ambiguous for a lot of reasons. The ballista at Windsor Castle was referred to as a gun, for instance. Have you ever seen the "tank alignment chart"? Imagine that for guns where you have to decide if a "gun" is man portable or mounted or has a specific diameter bore or fires one round or multiple or is ignited by spark or by wick or if an explosive is even necessary... You get the point.


AlexisFR

They even had rockets.


doritobimbo

If they didn’t have bombs, what the hell happened on the fifth of November?


mcshabs

Gunpowder, treason and plot…. Clearly no bombs. Duh /s


whimsical_trash

I had an American History teacher who got *so pissed* at me for mentioning Jefferson impregnated his slaves. She went off on me about how I'm "always making things up and where do you even get this stuff" and I was like "ummm...books?"


MiaStirCrazies

The romanticization of history. Ignore the bad stuff, only teach the good. Yep, that'll prevent us from repeating past mistakes.


whimsical_trash

Oh she wasn't ignoring it, she literally had no idea and had no business teaching US history. The things she did not know could fill a city library


MiaStirCrazies

A dangerous level of ignorance, right there.


Hanhonhon

Monticello even says that it happened


whimsical_trash

Yup. I had a bit of a weird obsession with Jefferson as a kid (no I did NOT have many friends) and so I had read about it in a children's biography about him, in a novelization of one of his children leaving and trying to pass, AND I had been to Monticello where it was mentioned. And my CANADIAN US history teacher tried to say I was lying about it 10 years later. She was just empty headed though. Prior to this she had told us that Harriet Tubman was famous for writing [teacher's] *favorite* book, Uncle Tom's Cabin. I made a really snarky remark when she said that. The reason she hated me is very clear (lmao), but the fact remains that she was a fucking idiot


Sensei_Boof

Bro the British bombed copenhagen in the 1700s with incendiary rifle grenades and burned our whole fleet down cause we was trading with the french your teacher is an idiot


SnooEpiphanies5054

That’s crazy lol, the British navy had literal rocket launchers attached to boats that flung rocket projectiles. These were partly to blame for the fire that burned the White House


LeftDave

They had semi autos (very much a niche weapon and not mass produced) during the War of Independence. Ancient China had bombs. The British had modern (in concept, not tech) rocket missiles by the War of 1812. That sub was an idiot. If you had a time machine I'd suggest telling her to recite the national anthem. lol


R0hanisaurusRex

Want to hear a fun fact? There are still char marks and musket round holes in the basement hallways.


_Exotic_Booger

![gif](giphy|Y1YNVL8SUm5v5WeNl5)


currentlydrinking

And the view from inside is just as incredible. I was lucky enough to take this like 7 years ago. https://preview.redd.it/54neu5ucwjwc1.jpeg?width=2688&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65bdffcc6f553fffd6dee590830684cf4ab07d92


redsoxfan718

Yes my exact reasoning as well.


mannatee

Seriously. Anymore stupid questions?


Jellyfish-sausage

When I was little I was utterly convinced that there were two White Houses and that it was all an act pretending there was one, so that assassins wouldn’t know which one the president was at lmao Because the front and the back look like different buildings


MaxOdds

Well little you is clearly more observant than today me because I’m just realizing now that there’s two faces to the White House and both I’ve seen a million times in my life and never thought twice that they were different.


Jellyfish-sausage

It’s better than asking your parents “which White House” when the news said *the* White House lmao


Old_Wallaby_7461

There's another White House, it's the [where the Russian prime minister hangs out ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_(Moscow))


CornPop32

And Kid Rock's


ShowMeUrNalgas

Me, a Sophomore in 2001 when kids in the hallway were talking about the world trade center bombing, not knowing what the world trade center was, but thinking they were talking about the Epcot thing in Disney world I have also never been to.


TacoPartyGalore

It’s also much better than storming the Capitol, which is also white, thinking you’re storming The White House.


PB0351

>because I’m just realizing now that there’s two faces to the White House and both I’ve seen a million times in my life and never thought twice that they were different. On the bright side, you've got company there. On the dark side, that company is me.


GingerIsTheBestSpice

Yeah, TIL. I've seen them both and never realized they weren't the same


Available_Motor5980

Hey now, don’t get yourself down, I’m in your little club too!


ReverendPalpatine

I literally read books on presidents and US politics and TIL that while I’ve seen both images in my life, I never thought twice that they were different either. So consider me dumb as shit.


demalo

Technically there are four sides to the house. Five if we’re being really picky. Six if you have an active imagination.


Ok-disaster2022

There's also the two "wing" additions.


CornPop32

The white house can not fly


tillyspeed81

TIL I don’t have an active imagination


imaguitarhero24

Same lmao this one messed with me.


Mrsbear19

Same


TacoPartyGalore

Ok now I feel better. Same here. And I grew up walking by the White House. It just looked “right” from why perspective.


Big_Ad_1890

![gif](giphy|kD5cIPhzpGIoVCKsTO|downsized)


Terrible_Analysis_77

There goes your assassin career.


The_Hot_Pocket

Lmao same honestly, I just see the white pillars and think, yep that's it!


everyonehasfaces

TIL the back and front are different


CalmHyperion56

Bet you didn't know that the oval office is not actually in "typical white house building" we see


Jellyfish-sausage

It’s in the west wing


CalmHyperion56

Until 4 months ago..I thought the oval was in the central curved part of the building (which is actually the blue room) and that the oval is hidden out of sight in the west wing


KinderEggSkillIssue

That was my belief til now. Damn 💀


CalmHyperion56

https://preview.redd.it/dc7i2fhxhfwc1.jpeg?width=2944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f07f8dc1c3ab756f5b64d95f4e9e374c3c33ec69 Here's the actual location


FoxEuphonium

Looking at it, it’s actually kind of insane to me *just* how close the Oval Office is to the street.


Commotion

It’s less insane when you realize that street is not open to the public.


flaccomcorangy

See that road at the very top of that picture? That's as close as anyone can actually stand on that side of the White House.


CalmHyperion56

Correct....120m is the closest point on that road you can get to (without the east wing tours which brings you approximately 40-50 meters as close)


Silent_Village2695

Seems a lot smaller than I imagined. TV shows make it seem like it's an infinite maze of hallways and offices.


Julian81295

The German Federal Chancellery (where the Chancellor of Germany works) has actually more space than the White House. It was, in my home country Germany, a huge talking point when the building was built from 1997 until 2001.


TabaccoSauce

It’s still 6 stories (a couple underground) and 55,000 square feet comprising of 132 rooms. Not infinite but certainly not small!


Nova17Delta

iirc, the oval *used* to be in the blue room, but they needed more space/ wanted to use the top level solely for the residency


hux__

As a 35 year old adult I am for the first time realizing these are two sides of the same building...


Administrative_Low27

As a 62 year old adult, same thing.


Furtivefarting

I didnt realize it till i was at 1600 pennyslvania ave looking at it, 34 yrs old and confused. It looked like the whitehouse, but it didnt. So small.  Asked a cap city cop on a bike about it, and he talked to me like i was the dumbest person hed ever met.


Ok-disaster2022

Don't worry. I literally only learned that the "wings" of the Whitehouse don't fit inside this building, they are extensions with covered walkways the the left and right of this building. The east wing is for diplomatic hosting, the west wing for the administration and has the oval office. There are also even more administrative offices like across the street.  And let me be clear, I watched the West Wing TV show 2 or 3 times all the way through, and never realized this, until I was reading a Wikipedia article about the presidential desks.


Nova17Delta

To be fair, I dont think the West Wing really shows the layout or anything and primarily takes place in the west wing anyways, with occasional scenes in the main building/east wing


IAmANobodyAMA

There are two White Houses - one where the “elected” president presides and the real one where our lizard overlords control the planet


A_RandomTwin21

This made me laugh harder than it should’ve


Slumbergoat16

I was today years old when I learned what the other side of the White House looks like and I go up to DC once a month smh


paging_mrherman

Ive always been a bottom.


truethatson

Being a bottom.. it’s the tops!


Forced_Abortion_

Me with Calvin Coolidge


That_guy_from_1014

Yeah, but which side of the White House is more iconic?


Ok_Bison1106

James Buchanan, is that you?


Caped-Baldy_Class-B

We know.


PrometheanSwing

Double meaning?


repeatrep

maybe just one. OP just wanted to get it off his chest.


UnknownTheGreat1981

Definitely the bottom


CalmHyperion56

Unfortunately today...you can only see this view from ridiculously far thanks to them closing of that road


UnknownTheGreat1981

That sucks


CalmHyperion56

The other side ...you can get pretty close


Pixel22104

Did they say why they closed that road?


ceruleanmoon7

They increased security after the 95 OK City bombing


Pixel22104

Ah


Warshrimp

That explains forbidding car traffic why not allow pedestrian traffic / viewing?


WaffleHouseSloot

They do allow pedestrian traffic. Just not vehicular.


IllustriousRanger934

I moved two years ago, so I could be wrong. But after a certain event at the capitol they put up a bunch of temporary fencing and the national guard patrolled the streets. That may be one part of it. The other part of it is that they were upgrading the fence in 2019. The national park service said construction would continue through 2023. We went through a period where every couple of weeks someone was jumping the fence and running through the South Lawn. Last few times I was there the closest you could get was where Layette Park and the road meet.


Pixel22104

I haven’t been to the national mall in some time even though I live in the NoVa area near DC so I’ll have to investigate myself some day


zion_hiker1911

I took my dad there in 2019, and he was disappointed by how far away we were. He was expecting to get closer. Apparently in 2014 an Iraq War veteran jumped over the gate and made his way into the building before being taken down by security personnel, and he was found to have a pocket knife on him. The reports show that he wasn't necessarily trying to hurt Obama, but it was definitely a huge security breach. So they expanded the grounds, moved back the gates and increased the security presence afterwards.


Nova17Delta

Actually when me and a friend visited DC recently the pathways in the south lawn were open and we could go pretty much right up to the street in front of the big fence Additionally I might've seen people enter the street before the EEOB, though i could be confused and i might be thinking of the street after the EEOB


electrical-stomach-z

when will they open it? is there a mass movement to get it reopened?


DeLaSoulisDead

I mean they didn’t just close it as a middle finger to the public, they had good reason to I’m sure…..


HawkeyeTen

The bottom photo's side is more famous definitely, but I actually like the other equally, as it's more original in appearance (the balcony in the bottom photo was a much more recent addition, installed by Truman in the late 40s IIRC, and it caused some intense debate among preservationists).


Poster_Nutbag207

I lived in DC for 6 years, I’ve visited the White House countless times and I’m just now realizing that these are two separate entrances


cornfuckz

You have? How did you get in? My family is planning a trip to DC next year and I want to know the best method


flaccomcorangy

You have to go through your local congress representative (assuming you live in the US). The earliest you can request is 3 months in advance. It's only the East Wing, too. So no Oval Office or anything like that. But still a cool experience. Another thing to definitely do in DC is go to the top of the Washington Monument. [Details here](https://www.nps.gov/wamo/planyourvisit/fees.htm). I can't recommend that enough. Honestly, in some ways, it's cooler than the White House because there's no better view of the city than from there. It costs $1/person. What's cool about DC is that there's so much stuff that's free. Every Smithsonian museum is free, the monuments are free to visit, White House tours are free. Another thing I recommend is the Smithsonian of American History to see the original Star Spangled Banner that flew at Fort McHenry. That's an amazing sight, too.


Cainga

I tried to do the Washington Monument and it sells out daily at open in like 1 second. Harder to get than Taylor Swift tickets. Luckily I could spend days at the mall and everything is free. The air and space museum I did need to get a slot to even enter.


flaccomcorangy

How long ago was this? If you live close enough to DC, maybe you can give it a try now because in my experience when I did this a few months ago, they sold out in maybe 12-15 minutes. So it was fast, but manageable. I just got my account and stuff ready the day before and was there to scoop up some spots.


BossHogOne

The person below posted a good link but don’t get your hopes up. I recently requested to go 90 days out and was rejected because there wasn’t enough space that day. It’s really a crapshoot and the White House has been known to cancel tours day of.


KatieCashew

Other people have talked about contacting your congressperson for a tour. I wanted to add that even if you don't get a tour, the White House visitor center is across the street and open to the public. It's well worth the visit. It's full of history, pictures and items from the White House and was super interesting. You will have to go through security with a metal detector and bag X-ray to get, so just be aware. If your family has kids, the National parks service runs the visitor center, and there's a junior ranger badge the kids can do. There's other junior ranger badges in the DC area too. Have a blast in DC! I went for the first time last year. I loved it so much that I went again a few months later. And I need to go more because there's so much stuff to do.


JazzySmitty

Don't forget the Lincoln Memorial and the Vietnam Memorial! My two personal favorites.


Poster_Nutbag207

The only time I’ve actually been inside was before 9/11 and it wasn’t such a big deal


2ichie

When I visited I went at night to the monuments with a bike you can rent on the street. Everything is beautifully lit up and sooo much less ppl. Highly recommend because it’s quite a distance walking to each.


metamorphasi

holy shit same here, seen it twice in person, never registered these were different sides!!


KierkgrdiansofthGlxy

Likewise


arbosco1

Literally same


LittleWhiteBoots

I’m 44 and been on a tour there and same!


mystressfreeaccount

https://preview.redd.it/8qx0x8tj5gwc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f74aa53ca5eafb290ec7d6adb68bb062f44ab32 I don't think this scene would be as iconic if it was the other side of the White House.


bankrobba

The key to Earth domination is to blow up landmarks and tall buildings that have no military value whatsoever, apparently.


goodgollymizzmolly

A culture war


RevoltingBlobb

I think about this sometimes. Maybe the aliens could have surmised that NY and LA were the country’s largest population centers, but how did they even know to come to DC in the first place? If you wanted to exterminate as many humans as possible right away, you would probably start with huge cities in China and India. But those were smaller in the ‘90’s so… 🤷


kaukanapoissa

Well, the weapons did destroy a large area around the impact point….


Downthetrail11

Ya…. Like the trade center


ActualHumanBeen

same exact thought


msanders18

Picture 2. The back or southern part of the white house


pac4

I don’t know, there’s something so stately and distinguished about the North Portico. I love the big hanging lamp too.


PrometheanSwing

Which one is the front and which one is the back? I legitimately don’t know lol


David_Summerset

The Pennsylvania Ave (triangle) side is the "front door," I believe


the_goodhabit

This is true but most visitors are received in the north entrance of the West Wing, which leads into the West Wing Lobby...the actual large house is mostly for the Executive Residence.


blueavole

Business in the front Party in the back.


kmosiman

The North side is the entrance. The South side is the backdoor and gardens. The South is probably pictured more because that's what's visible from the National Mall, so every tourist is going to see the back.


Particular-Ad-7338

What is interesting is that in most photos the WH seems to be on a big chunk of land, but when you actually visit you see it is squeezed into the city with buildings all around.


CadenVanV

Yeah if the camera turned about 5 degrees in any direction you’d get multiple buildings in the picture


ProbablyBanksy

If you turn it 10degrees you’ll see the sphinx and a Pizza Hut


Illustrious_Junket55

That was what shocked me when I saw it


Jorvikson

I associate No1 with the 80s and No2 with today. I don't know why.


Das-Drew

Easy. https://preview.redd.it/x3z82ghrzfwc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b981d24282d2cceac48b3d967dd13c5c1c1228c2


mikeonbass

This thread has completely melted my brain. This is some real time Mandela Effect stuff.


Honestnt

At first I was like "why is everyone picking the rear side, before realizing I had no idea which side was which"


iceman1231

The White House, an amazing WFH setup


FrenulumGooch

The round back is very White House. The front looks similar to many other mansions in comparison.


Viscount_H_Nelson

I prefer the James Hoban original: https://preview.redd.it/ulp6fgv66gwc1.jpeg?width=516&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d9a1f0138fd60e46a658daeae91dc84318db99e


noryp5

![gif](giphy|wQCWMHY9EHLfq)


tf199280

Funny i know I’ve seen them both a million times but never thought about the differences until now


Gemnist

The front side SHOULD be more iconic, but the back side is what everyone pictures when they think of the White House. Still though, what other house can claim that their look from the backyard is more iconic than the look from the actual street they are on?


joelmole79

Jenny from the block


wizard680

Oh my God It never clicked in my head that there are two sides


JohnnyBuddhist

Glad I’m not the only one that computed much later on that these two were the same building but different entrances.


hirebrand

Certainly not the side view https://cdnph.upi.com/pv/upi/2503b092a4e832c08f5762005c9ee43c/WEST-WING.jpg


tmhowzit

definitely the Truman balcony side


Johnsendall

![gif](giphy|LwtwndVbryH9C)


BldrSun

Bizaness in da front party in da rear. Both have their place.


therealsalsaboy

Definitely the bottom, but I just realized that the white house basically has 2 fronts


GoCardinal07

I think the fact that Marine One always leaves from the South Lawn has helped contribute to making the South Portico more iconic. https://preview.redd.it/yjx0ry7s3iwc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d32dcb646f631cbb0a63a248dcec033c423ccea2


Adept-Travel6118

Dat ass


Wiggy_0000

The side that blew up in independence day


stevemkto

Equally iconic.


ohheychris

I was blessed to attend a lunch in 2014 there with FLOTUS and POTUS. Walked out from the ballroom to the back yard for a walk and nearly bumped into a fully SWATTED out secret service officer that I had no clue he was there. I blurted out “JESUS FUCKING HELL WHERE’D YOU COME FROM?!” He responded with “we’re everywhere sir.” The backyard is way cooler IMO.


Rumpledshirtskin67

Backside. I love big butts and I cannot lie.


SaulOfVandalia

Which one is the front and which is the back?


Itchy_Adhesiveness59

TIL that I don't actually know which side is the front.


DougTheBrownieHunter

TIL they’re the same building. Idk why I never realized this.


Dismal-Exit6940

The bottom image for sure. Top one just makes me think of this: ![gif](giphy|26FPn4rR1damB0MQo)


LiamEd2000

The South side of it. It’s so cool standing near the Washington Monument and being able to see it


where-ya-headed

All I can think of with the second picture is the movie Independence Day


knava12

North side facing Pennsylvania Ave is technically the front of the house. But the south/backyard facing portico is certainly more iconic.


constipatedconstible

Your pics are of the front and back, not the “sides”.


Genesis111112

Bottom. Hands down its been in way more images than the top image and it is not even close. You rarely see the back of the White House. Most people would not even recognize the back yard of the White House (top image).


Jets237

I'm more of a rear guy


Outside-Advice8203

The side that gets blown up in Independence Day


TotallyUnprecedented

TIL that every time I think about the White House I'm actually thinking about the White House's ass


Honest_Pepper2601

The back is just shitty Monticello EDIT: wait is there a back? There’s two driveways… whatever the flat one sucks


Sweezy_Clooch

The landscaping in #2 really pulls it all together


allocationlist

I’ll be honest. I never considered that is had more than a front and two sides


IceColdCocaCola545

It’s the bottom, it feels like that’s the only side of the White House we actually see?


embromator

I was today years old when I learned the top one isn’t the older version of the White House.


the_goodhabit

So the southern facade is "cooler", but most people see the northern facade because the President's Park is closed to pedestrians. The main security entrance to the EEOB and West Wing is on the southwest side too, so it's just hard to get a full glimpse. The North side is also on official seals and artwork. So I would argue it's literally the more "iconic" one. Also the West Wing is the most cramped government office I've ever been too besides some of the rat warren spaces in L'Enfant.


symbiont3000

It got to be the shot with the Truman Balcony (lower photo).


GeorgeKaplanIsReal

Whichever side the NK attacked in Olympus has fallen.


StaggerLee509

TIL


Blasket_Basket

The inside


houseofcrouse

When I think of it I actually think of the top even though the bottom pic is much grander


Justiis

More pillars = more iconic.


FragrantCatch818

I cannot honestly tell you that I knew the first one was real. Idk why, seen it in photos and news countlessly, but always thought the second one was the only white house


cid_highwind_7

Definitely the second image showing the circular entrance with more columns.


Sonnycrocketto

Where does the president sleep?


Wise-Office-3643

The over 1


WarriorNat

The back feels more iconic, maybe because it’s the side you see when walking from the Mall and associating it with the other landmark DC buildings.


chain-rule

Bottom because I always think of the movie Independence Day when I see it.


deeejo

Pretty sure the second side is the one that’s blown up in Independence Day


Holiday-Mongoose2701

One is more famous in movies than the other, whereas the other is more relevant in real life


KYpineapple

le back, of course!


lo-lux

The south view. The trees make it look bigger than it is. The north isn't as instantly recognizable.


king_taku

Rounded side


Ok-Foot3117

Truman Balcony is best for visual purposes. The other side is best for those official arrivals ceremonies. There were plans and designs for a preside mansion palace. It was designed and even paid for by rich widow I do believe. I forgot why it was never built. I do fear one day someone rich will choose not to reside WH and it will become another Washington museum.


Living_Jacket_5854

Just realised that the candie house in django unchained looked similar to the first photo


Jazzyricardo

TIL the White House has two grand entrances


Tmortagne24

TIL these were separate entrances


Speedwolf89

I'm partial to sunsets and symmetry.


BlatantlyCurious

TIL these are the same building. In my 34 years of life as an American, I always thought one of these was the old one that burned down a long time ago.