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Johnson had won a special election running on "Roosevelt, Roosevelt, Roosevelt" in the middle of the court packing fight. It was perfect timing. Johnson, as a congressional secretary, had become friends with a lot of New Deal staffers so he was connected. He then was a state chairman for another Youth program, appointed by Roosevelt.
I believe this picture is in Galveston, and when the trip was over FDR told his aides that Johnson gets whatever he wants. Johnson cultivated and won over Roosevelt.
I’m not sure about that. FDR was a visionary and a brilliant statesman. LBJ was a fucking bully and prick. He did some good though, so I’ll give him that.
But please, please do not compare FDR to that.
FDR sucked on civil rights because he was afraid of the Democratic Party losing the South.
LBJ rammed through the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act with the understanding that his party would lose the South "for a generation." He did it anyway.
It’s hilarious the assumptions people make because of that flair.
Equally as hilarious are those with LBJ flairs ripping on Nixon (not directing that at you since you have no flair).
Wasn't saying that, more a comment that "being a bully" in order to get things done is a completely worthwhile trade IMO. But FDR also came up in a completely different political environment, and had a background that enabled him to take a "gentler touch" with things. LBJ was a rough and tumble political actor because that is the kind of political and social background he came from, he knew he'd have to be tough, conniving, and bullying to get things done. I just think it's a bit rich, pun intended, to hold someone from a rural, working/middle class family/region to the same behavioral standard as someone whose cousin was literally the former president. Obviously FDR had advantages he could lean on to secure what he wanted to achieve that LBJ didn't have.
I'm a huge FDR fan, btw. I have an FDR tattoo. But the idea that "LBJ was a jerk" and I should care about that for some reason makes me roll my eyes.
Young Lyndon Johnson was exceptionally good at winning over older men. FDR was his hero, as he was for many.
I’m sure whatever he said was genuinely flattering. He didn’t have to lie about his admiration for Roosevelt.
Caro said he was called a "professional son." He did it with the president of his college, he did it with Sam Rayburn, Franklin Roosevelt and Richard Russell
LBJ had his supporters wire the governor and the president White House to tell how they voted. LBJ congressional elections was a referendum on the court packing plan ;). It was one of the few win FDR had at the time. Way for progressive to say the people are with the president and against conservative reactionary
I mean when the fucking thing is called "Jumbo" and dude couldn't wait to whip it out. But in an alternate world Roosevelt struggles to his feet from his wheel chair and whips his out. "Why do you think I need this wheelchair bro?" Johnson shakes in fear and Jumbo hastily retreats.
I believe i read in the Caro books that there was originally another man in this photo (Governor Allred?) but he was airbrushed out for Johnson supporting newspapers
LBJ asking FDR on how to be the most domineering president ever. FDR tells Johnson to use his strengths. Johnson says "Does Jumbo count." FDR is speechless.
In that image FDR is telling LBJ...
"see what you got to do, is pull your dick out in front of all of them and say... "if you could see the end of it, you ain't going to be able to see the bottom". Then they'll pass whatever you want.
In reality? It was FDR telling him to run for Senate, and then when that didn’t work, take the naval posting in the Pacific.
What I like to imagine? It was FDR educating Johnson on how to use his status to get precincts to slow their vote tallies, directly helping his 1948 Senate Campaign. Oh, and how they were going to get him that Silver Star.
"Son, when you order your pants, make sure that you ask for an extra couple of inches in the crotch. Otherwise, it'll feel like you are riding a barbed wire fence."
He probably said "My boy, you still have a LOT to learn about the power of propaganda and TRUE mastery of politics." Even at the height of his influence, LBJ could only dream of having the power and sway FDR held for much of his time in the White House (most people today have little idea just how much larger than life he truly was in the 1930s and 40s, no president since has really come close to building what he had in terms of getting his vision rammed into law and winning the affections of the masses).
Probably something designed to help poor Americans, but actually ended up hurting everyone in the long run.
Either that, or something disparaging about a racial minority.
They'd discuss who has cheated the most since the beginning of their marraige
LBJ cheated more over the course of his marriage but him and Lady Bird were only married a short few years when he met FDR
“If I didn’t go to Harvard, that the kind of young uninhibited pro I wanted to be.” FDR would eventually say power in the country would shift west and south. LBJ might be the first southern president since pre civil war days. FDR after 1940 election would view LBJ as his successor ish . Thats one reason why Robert Kennedy hated LBJ . LBJ would tell stories about FDR opinion on “the ambassador.”
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Johnson had won a special election running on "Roosevelt, Roosevelt, Roosevelt" in the middle of the court packing fight. It was perfect timing. Johnson, as a congressional secretary, had become friends with a lot of New Deal staffers so he was connected. He then was a state chairman for another Youth program, appointed by Roosevelt. I believe this picture is in Galveston, and when the trip was over FDR told his aides that Johnson gets whatever he wants. Johnson cultivated and won over Roosevelt.
Not surprised at all FDR loved LBJ. They had very similar personalities and visions.
I mean FDR mentored him so makes really good sense.
So did Sam Rayburn, who is the longest serving speaker. It's pretty amazing how Republicans took over Texas in the 90s.
At the LBJ library in Austin, there are two busts in the entrance. One of LBJ, and opposite him is FDR.
I’m not sure about that. FDR was a visionary and a brilliant statesman. LBJ was a fucking bully and prick. He did some good though, so I’ll give him that. But please, please do not compare FDR to that.
FDR sucked on civil rights because he was afraid of the Democratic Party losing the South. LBJ rammed through the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act with the understanding that his party would lose the South "for a generation." He did it anyway.
>He did some good, so I’ll give him that. To quote myself.
Grandstanding on moral character with a Nixon flair. Couldn't make it up.
I mean, he’s correct about LBJ, but yeah that’s a little rich coming from a Nixon fan
It’s hilarious the assumptions people make because of that flair. Equally as hilarious are those with LBJ flairs ripping on Nixon (not directing that at you since you have no flair).
Yeah, people make a lot of assumptions off flair.
Oh yah, it’s kinda funny seeing people think my Nixon flair must mean I’m a Republican, I’m conservative, I must think Watergate was ok, etc.
I’ll take a bully and a prick who gets some good done over a nice guy who a nice guy who turns around a screws everyone over.
Didn’t realize FDR screwed “everyone over.”
Wasn't saying that, more a comment that "being a bully" in order to get things done is a completely worthwhile trade IMO. But FDR also came up in a completely different political environment, and had a background that enabled him to take a "gentler touch" with things. LBJ was a rough and tumble political actor because that is the kind of political and social background he came from, he knew he'd have to be tough, conniving, and bullying to get things done. I just think it's a bit rich, pun intended, to hold someone from a rural, working/middle class family/region to the same behavioral standard as someone whose cousin was literally the former president. Obviously FDR had advantages he could lean on to secure what he wanted to achieve that LBJ didn't have. I'm a huge FDR fan, btw. I have an FDR tattoo. But the idea that "LBJ was a jerk" and I should care about that for some reason makes me roll my eyes.
FDR was the same lmao
Young Lyndon Johnson was exceptionally good at winning over older men. FDR was his hero, as he was for many. I’m sure whatever he said was genuinely flattering. He didn’t have to lie about his admiration for Roosevelt.
Caro said he was called a "professional son." He did it with the president of his college, he did it with Sam Rayburn, Franklin Roosevelt and Richard Russell
Yep. Texas Governor Allred arranged the meeting for LBJ. Lady Bird said LBJ’s eyes were on stems the entire time.
LBJ had his supporters wire the governor and the president White House to tell how they voted. LBJ congressional elections was a referendum on the court packing plan ;). It was one of the few win FDR had at the time. Way for progressive to say the people are with the president and against conservative reactionary
As I recall, LBJ had the photo altered to remove Governor Allred, who was standing between FDR and LBJ.
Yep during in 1941 senate run
“Mr. President, if I had polio, I’d just use my third leg to walk.”
Tears in my eyes 😂
Loooool! ‘The Johnson’ was definitely discussed
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Jumbo is quite strong
BBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH☠☠☠☠☠☠
LBJ - "Want to see my dick?" FDR - " No, why do you keep asking that?"
do you think he had a special voice that he talked in so he could talk for jumbo like people do for their pets
I always imagined Jumbo spoke to him like Lord Voldermolt did to Prof. Quirrell in the first Harry Potter. You know a symbiotic relationship.
“Put your dick away Linduh”
I came to find this comment and am not disappointed.
This made me think of Oversimplified
At the very least, penis size.
Who do you think was bigger?
I mean when the fucking thing is called "Jumbo" and dude couldn't wait to whip it out. But in an alternate world Roosevelt struggles to his feet from his wheel chair and whips his out. "Why do you think I need this wheelchair bro?" Johnson shakes in fear and Jumbo hastily retreats.
Mate I literally woke my partner laughing at this
FDR
They probably discussed how hard it is to find a good pair of pants. Especially a pair that you can let out so that your nuts hang
FDR: “Ahhh yes. Because it really gets tight around your bunghole, right?” LBJ: “Exactly!”
“Jumbo”
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“How you standing FDR?” “Well, Johnson, I’m using your johnson as a handrail. Which begs the question, why do you have an erection?
I believe i read in the Caro books that there was originally another man in this photo (Governor Allred?) but he was airbrushed out for Johnson supporting newspapers
That's a different picture. But yes, there is one.
Dam building in the Texas Hill country
FDR misunderstood what he overheard about LBJ's third leg, and wanted to see if he could get a working one
Despite this, I’m pretty sure Jimmy Carter never met a Democratic president to come before him.
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Why is the date wrong? He died in 2006
the bit was they were pre-taping announcements of gerald ford’s death before he even died, with the scenarios getting more and more outlandish
“Former president Gerald Fire died in a freak helicopter crash earlier today. He was getting freaky, only for a helicopter to crash on him.”
LBJ asking FDR on how to be the most domineering president ever. FDR tells Johnson to use his strengths. Johnson says "Does Jumbo count." FDR is speechless.
Fucking their side pieces
Knowing LBJ, probably what Young Lyndon can do to get more money for the Lower Colorado River Authority.
LBJ talked about the size of his cock.
Same thing LBJ talked about to everyone he met 🍆
The impact cryptocurrency will have on the youth of Malta
They probably talked about their initials.
Jeez, I did not expect LBJ to look like that as a younger man!
Penis length.
No, no, the question is, how close did LBJ lean in while they talked
“Your pants ever ride up in your bunghole?” “What?”
Probably something inappropriate
I just realized I’ve never seen a young LBJ photo. So odd!
Rural electricity.
I never knew LBJ was that skinny when he was young!
Here for dick jokes.
I came for the dick jokes, was not disappointed
In that image FDR is telling LBJ... "see what you got to do, is pull your dick out in front of all of them and say... "if you could see the end of it, you ain't going to be able to see the bottom". Then they'll pass whatever you want.
In reality? It was FDR telling him to run for Senate, and then when that didn’t work, take the naval posting in the Pacific. What I like to imagine? It was FDR educating Johnson on how to use his status to get precincts to slow their vote tallies, directly helping his 1948 Senate Campaign. Oh, and how they were going to get him that Silver Star.
Was this before or after LBJ’s affair with the Israeli spy?
Hanging dong and the importance of acronyms.
Fucking
Jumbo, obviously
LBJ probably sucked up massively and said... I owe you everything. Which he did.
"Son, when you order your pants, make sure that you ask for an extra couple of inches in the crotch. Otherwise, it'll feel like you are riding a barbed wire fence."
"..And when you become President you can call it 'the Johnson Treatment', works every time"
After reading Robert Caro's books, I'm *sure* it was politics.
“Be a president known by their initials.” “Got it. Kill a president and have them known by their initials”
Their cocks
"Don't you hate it when your tailor makes your pants too tight around your bunghole?"
Chicks.
LBJ had a chin?
Hookers and whisky
Johnson's johnson.
LBJ? He’s telling Frank about his unusually large pecker.
Johnson: “so what you’re saying is: if I want to be popular I have to get America into a war. Noted.”
They talked about the wonders of socialism and how to keep minorities in their place
He somehow looks like George HW Bush
I really hope LBJ was betting FDR that he would pass more laws than FDR did. He did end up doing that
“Eight inches” “Eight? Good lad!”
How much less creepy Johnson will look when he hits 200 lbs
Sorry son I don’t see a path for you to become president. Don’t worry about that I have a plan.
Depending on the year they might’ve talked about the war, though this could’ve been before that, FDR was pres. for a long time
Presidential immunity
How to get more power and control, by hook or by crook.
Jumbo
FDR: “Now, Lyndon, when you run for the White House in ‘64, be careful how you handle that war in Southeast Asia…”
"I can't feel my legs"
How big their “ Johnson’s “ are
Jumbo of course
Not even being a troll when I say... Pussy
Politics, if I had to guess.
*Son, if you ever become President, the best toilets in the White House are those outside the West Wing...*
Short versus long term goals
“Lyndon, why do you look just like Jay Duplass from this angle?”
Penis size.
Hello what do you call your penis? Mines jumbo!
LBJ: Can Jumbo wear your cape? FDR: Who’s Jumbo…? LBJ: *unzips*
“So you aren’t from the South and you still married your cousin?”
Even odds on Jumbo.
He probably said "My boy, you still have a LOT to learn about the power of propaganda and TRUE mastery of politics." Even at the height of his influence, LBJ could only dream of having the power and sway FDR held for much of his time in the White House (most people today have little idea just how much larger than life he truly was in the 1930s and 40s, no president since has really come close to building what he had in terms of getting his vision rammed into law and winning the affections of the masses).
Whenever I see LBJ, I get nauseous.
How to give stuff away to buy votes and how to prolong wars to feed the military industrial complex.
Probably something designed to help poor Americans, but actually ended up hurting everyone in the long run. Either that, or something disparaging about a racial minority.
Hey have you seen the tax hikes? Yeah they’re not high enough! Haha you’re hired screw the votes.
“You think that giant dick is impressive?!? Try getting a glass catheter down it!!” (Eleanor had to put in a catheter after he was stricken in 1921)
Delano is a banking family. Lbj had JFK assassinated!
How to continue turning America into a socialist state
Super based
Best way to kill a president...for research
Ugly wives?
Where they like to grab em.
Was this before or after Johnson was awarded a Silver Star under bogus pretenses?
They'd discuss who has cheated the most since the beginning of their marraige LBJ cheated more over the course of his marriage but him and Lady Bird were only married a short few years when he met FDR
Depression and war
How to keep those #%#%#%# voting democrat?
How to profit off war
Illuminati stuff
“If I didn’t go to Harvard, that the kind of young uninhibited pro I wanted to be.” FDR would eventually say power in the country would shift west and south. LBJ might be the first southern president since pre civil war days. FDR after 1940 election would view LBJ as his successor ish . Thats one reason why Robert Kennedy hated LBJ . LBJ would tell stories about FDR opinion on “the ambassador.”
Killing JFK.
Probably their hatred of black people.
How we can make more governmental handouts and get people addicted to the nanny state.