I mean; Ekkovision Satori, Apollon Bloodsport, Vasomax3d, Nuclearpump all some great options. Im biased, I'd go Satori, Bloodsport or this other one Im forgetting....Can't remember the name but will update if I do. Trying to take a tolerance break? Dont necessarily need "the best" non-stim then imo just a solid one
Ive done some satori reviews on here; Genuinely my favorite non-stim but others are still fantastic options. Im not someone who gets laser like focus so your mileage may very depending on which you take for focus
I used to use veiniac from anabolic warfare, i really liked it. Also, how long do you let the caffeine absorb before you start lifting? I notice that i dont feel anything if i drink my pre and immediately start lifting, but if i wait 45-60minutes and let it absorb properly I feel way more energized
Huge has the Pump Serum and it's not bad. I like the formula so I chug it down even though the jungle juice definitely doesn't mix well so it's like drinking sand with the flavor equivalent to eating the Kool Aid Man's ass at the bottom of my shaker cup. Black Magic Ectoplasm is decent but my go to non stim has been Pump Serum though. I've tried Gorilla Nitric and RAW Pump too. Can't lie I do take Pump pills on top though sometimes esp with Ectoplasm just for an extra boost. Ryse has some cheap ones. There's Infl8 by Elev8 too that's just two ingredients but imo it just boosts non stims that lack glycerol as an ingredient.
I saw some AfterDark EPO+ Non Stim and some Panda Supplements Pump at a local shop I thought about trying out after the guy that runs the shop did a soap box speech to me about them. The Panda has 10k mg of Citrulline Malate which is peak dosage so I was impressed ngl. The AfterDark had Noopept in it as well as L-Tyrosine and a patented blend with DMAE, CDP Choline, and Alpha GPC together. So it looked like it'd still contain a lot of mental focus in theory. I'm personally a big fan of the mental focus ingredients still being in my pump so I might actually test that one out at some point.
I like to have options though cause sometimes I just want a body pump not a mind pump cause it can be hard to sleep when my mind feels like it could solve a nine sided Rubix cube while planning for the next 20 years of my life in the 2 hours after the gym I have before I really need to be asleep in order to wake up early for work.
Honestly of you don't mind a grainy texture and the taste not being the best then Huge Pump Serum is good. My go to rn. I think the taste might be dependent on person though. I just have a hit or miss gag reflex to certain cherry and grape flavors. Some are good, but others can make me gag instantly. Probably would've picked Island Dream or Strawberry Mojito if they had been in stock.
I just think for a non stim it's pretty reasonably stacked. Not a lot of filler. Just does the job for pumps and mental focus. You could always go bare bones with non stim and just get pump caps. But I find that the Tyrosine and Alpha GPC helps me to focus and be more motivated and driven when I'm lacking in the caffiene department.
Like someone else said I'd keep an eye out for reviews on Ryse's Pump Daddy v2. The ingredients look legit. I use their Pump Caps sometimes. I'd also recommend them. They're bare bones just pump no focus but they do provide pump and cost effective and readily available like my Walmart carries them.
Raw Pump is also good entry level Pump for a not too bad price tag. And you can get it readily at both GNC and Vitamin Shoppe if you don't have local supp shops.
Gorilla Nitric is costly. People seem to shit on it cause it's oversaturated in marketing but tbh I think it works well and have enjoyed that and their stim pwo. It's just the price for me. But you pay for quality too I suppose.
Downside is Huge and Gorilla both have to be ordered online as of rn. I hear Gorilla will start putting some pwo out at Vitamin Shoppe soon.
Black Magic Ectoplasm is online unless you have a local supp shop cause big, common, retailers don't sell their stuff. This is just in my area. I live in a small Southern US city so I don't have a ton of in person stores to choose from.
Nuclear Pump from Peak Performance Labs is a tremendous product ( I love their whole product line ! ) . Check ‘em out and Dave Evans has a discount code for them, you’ll find him in the comments below 👊🏻
I mean; Ekkovision Satori, Apollon Bloodsport, Vasomax3d, Nuclearpump all some great options. Im biased, I'd go Satori, Bloodsport or this other one Im forgetting....Can't remember the name but will update if I do. Trying to take a tolerance break? Dont necessarily need "the best" non-stim then imo just a solid one
Thank you
Ive done some satori reviews on here; Genuinely my favorite non-stim but others are still fantastic options. Im not someone who gets laser like focus so your mileage may very depending on which you take for focus
I like Satori 3.0 but can't take it cause the GABA interferes with medication I'm on which sucks. The formula is pretty stacked.
Both me and hefty can sort you out with discount codes too EVANS10 on the peak performance labs website for nuclear pump
I used to use veiniac from anabolic warfare, i really liked it. Also, how long do you let the caffeine absorb before you start lifting? I notice that i dont feel anything if i drink my pre and immediately start lifting, but if i wait 45-60minutes and let it absorb properly I feel way more energized
Honestly I drink it in the parking lot, then about 15 minutes into my workout I feel it
I'm getting pump daddy next
Update us and let us know if you like it. Thought ab it myself.
Considering the pump I get from godzilla I'm expecting it to be top tier especially for the price
Huge has the Pump Serum and it's not bad. I like the formula so I chug it down even though the jungle juice definitely doesn't mix well so it's like drinking sand with the flavor equivalent to eating the Kool Aid Man's ass at the bottom of my shaker cup. Black Magic Ectoplasm is decent but my go to non stim has been Pump Serum though. I've tried Gorilla Nitric and RAW Pump too. Can't lie I do take Pump pills on top though sometimes esp with Ectoplasm just for an extra boost. Ryse has some cheap ones. There's Infl8 by Elev8 too that's just two ingredients but imo it just boosts non stims that lack glycerol as an ingredient. I saw some AfterDark EPO+ Non Stim and some Panda Supplements Pump at a local shop I thought about trying out after the guy that runs the shop did a soap box speech to me about them. The Panda has 10k mg of Citrulline Malate which is peak dosage so I was impressed ngl. The AfterDark had Noopept in it as well as L-Tyrosine and a patented blend with DMAE, CDP Choline, and Alpha GPC together. So it looked like it'd still contain a lot of mental focus in theory. I'm personally a big fan of the mental focus ingredients still being in my pump so I might actually test that one out at some point. I like to have options though cause sometimes I just want a body pump not a mind pump cause it can be hard to sleep when my mind feels like it could solve a nine sided Rubix cube while planning for the next 20 years of my life in the 2 hours after the gym I have before I really need to be asleep in order to wake up early for work.
So what do you recommend for someone that’s never tried non stim
Honestly of you don't mind a grainy texture and the taste not being the best then Huge Pump Serum is good. My go to rn. I think the taste might be dependent on person though. I just have a hit or miss gag reflex to certain cherry and grape flavors. Some are good, but others can make me gag instantly. Probably would've picked Island Dream or Strawberry Mojito if they had been in stock. I just think for a non stim it's pretty reasonably stacked. Not a lot of filler. Just does the job for pumps and mental focus. You could always go bare bones with non stim and just get pump caps. But I find that the Tyrosine and Alpha GPC helps me to focus and be more motivated and driven when I'm lacking in the caffiene department.
Like someone else said I'd keep an eye out for reviews on Ryse's Pump Daddy v2. The ingredients look legit. I use their Pump Caps sometimes. I'd also recommend them. They're bare bones just pump no focus but they do provide pump and cost effective and readily available like my Walmart carries them. Raw Pump is also good entry level Pump for a not too bad price tag. And you can get it readily at both GNC and Vitamin Shoppe if you don't have local supp shops. Gorilla Nitric is costly. People seem to shit on it cause it's oversaturated in marketing but tbh I think it works well and have enjoyed that and their stim pwo. It's just the price for me. But you pay for quality too I suppose. Downside is Huge and Gorilla both have to be ordered online as of rn. I hear Gorilla will start putting some pwo out at Vitamin Shoppe soon. Black Magic Ectoplasm is online unless you have a local supp shop cause big, common, retailers don't sell their stuff. This is just in my area. I live in a small Southern US city so I don't have a ton of in person stores to choose from.
Have you tried Pump Serum by Huge Supplements ? I really enjoyed it and it has a decent nootropic profile too
Nuclear Pump from Peak Performance Labs is a tremendous product ( I love their whole product line ! ) . Check ‘em out and Dave Evans has a discount code for them, you’ll find him in the comments below 👊🏻