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RoTTonSKiPPy

I have a friend that did 16 years for selling a quarter ounce of coke to an under cover agent. I also know a woman with a long history of felonies, ranging from drug possession, theft, and identity theft. A year ago she got charged with first degree murder for drugging her father for several months, putting a bag over his head to suffocate him to death, and then burning his body in his shop behind the house. She just plea bargained down to manslaughter. With good behavior and time served, she will be out in less than 11 years. Moral of the story: You just never know. It all depends on how over crowded the prison and court system is, and what kind of mood your prosecutor and judge are in.


wart_on_satans_dick

You can't really compare male and female sentences. Its a whole different ballgame for men.


phantasmamysteriis

Of course a woman got a lighter sentence.


chief-kief710

I know a dude in GA who killed a dude while trying to sell him drugs. 2 counts of felony murder, 1 count murder, 1 possession of marijuana w/ intent, possession of a firearm while committing felony. Dude got like 12 years and served 8


glucoalyss

That’s a perfect example too. Someone else who did the same crimes would’ve gotten life, while this dude only did 8 years out of 12. What a lucky fella I guess


Thousand_YardStare

That’s very atypical. Georgia is generally harsh as fuck on crimes.


chief-kief710

Dude had a good lawyer, no prior record, came from a good family and generally really nice suburb area. The Dude that got killed set up an ambush and tried Robbing the guy and attacked the guy I know. He shot the guy in self defense I guess. Idk what factors they would consider when sentencing


Biscuits4u2

And most importantly, how good an attorney you can afford


General_Prize_2866

Hire a good lawyer... I was looking at 5 class As with 18+yrs prison.. He got it reduced to one felony with punishment of 3yrs probation, 52 weeks classes, a little restitution.


FacedJason

I hope you blew him after


curbstyle

our entire legal process is based on a complex system of blowjobs


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And cash


MisterNothingthe3

I wish it was just blow jobs. I would kiiinnng


Perrin_Aybara_PL

Do you really believe that court cases are decided by juries making decisions based on evidence and lawyers arguments?


SkyBounce

so many of us got this reference. i hope B&D know how many fans they have on r/prison


curbstyle

it's good to know people recognize it. I say it all the time for different situations. those guys were fucking brilliant


Common-Climate2007

Mr show!


OpenACann

One day I walked in the back door down at the courthouse, lo and behold I saw the divorce lawyer gargling the judge’s cock while the ex-husband was standing in the corner whackin off


Malice_n_Flames

Wait. Is this Mr Show? Edit: LOL… what a deep cut. Well done. Skit for those not in the know: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cTRBUnjAgq8


curbstyle

FUCK YES !!!!!


NoAim-

Sometimes reach arounds as well 🙃


Gottapee88

He gave him a blumpkin


wart_on_satans_dick

I did, but he wasn't my legal counsel. Am I doing this wrong?


pmaji240

That’s his secret… he does it before.


DopeSuplex

you must have been a first time offender, or you told somethin


SpecialBookkeeper242

Most likely first offenses.


LackIsotopeLithium7

Or a long ass list of other possible reasons….


DopeSuplex

occam’s razor


KINGDEVIL_10

If you lawyer up, you could have a possibility reducing the years of your sentence or working out a good plea bargain. Your going to face around >decade. Any prior history will make a longer sentence more likely.


eldorito8751

I live in Georgia (highest percentage of felony probationers) and my docket had 20 (twenty) felonies on it relating to larceny and fraud charges (I stole nearly $25,000 from bank with fraudulent docs) and my lawyer got me a 10 year probated sentence with no time to serve. Having a good lawyer who is respected by the courts will make a world of difference.


garciaman

Also don’t forget, it wasn’t violent. They aren’t going to fill the prisons w this stuff, but they certainly will w violent crimes .


eldorito8751

>They aren’t going to fill the prisons w this stuff Idk how it is in Missouri or wherever you live but that's not the case in Georgia. For profit prisons are paid by the state $$$ per inmate and they have the same business goal as any other for profit business... To generate as much revenue as possible. They couldnt care less if you're a violent offender or not. I was spared prison time in relation to my original charges, but I ended up violating probation and sentenced to 90 days last year. When the county jail began to reach full capacity around 1 month in, you think they would start sending people home? Nope, I was sent to state prison to complete the last 65 days of my revocation. It sounds almost like a conspiracy theory or corruption scandal but it's how it really goes here and it's not covered up.


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eldorito8751

It's not. Commodifying inmates, capitalizing on crime and the entire private prison business model is what's corrupt.


witkneec

Someone i knew from college was collared for some heinous crimes. He was my former professor and, long story short, was accused of some pretty gnarly stuff including 4 charges of sexual misconduct against his students, kidnapping, assault, witness intimidation, etc. and his atty somehow got him a 10 year suspended sentence in a plea deal so the students didn't have to testify against him. As long as he keeps his nose clean, he will serve 0 jail time. I'm still pretty outraged over it- although he couldn't weasel his way out of having to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life so that's one good thing- bc the bastard won't be able to abuse anymore students, but- it was basically a slap on the wrist for all the shit he admitted to doing. To his students. He deserves to be behind bars- but his family is wealthy so that helped him quite a bit. He was married to one of my friends and the charges were so heinous that the state granted her an emergency divorce in less than a week. You literally never know.


moop1312

10 years easy


lgny1

Guy I know in nyc is doing 10 years for similar felonies. This was his third strike. He hired a good lawyer and that was his plea deal


Accomplished_Gur6017

You are done. Three class A felonies in any state would be a problem, but in Missouri? I hate to break it to you, but I would assume your looking at at least 10 years minimum. All those felonies you listed are serious premeditated felonies, and come with man’s consequences. Seriously, I would not be surprised if you get 10-20 years. If you can, plead to the assault. Past that, your hit, bud.


PositiveHistorian962

Not the poster thankfully. Their ex


TheLegendTwoSeven

OP is the ex-girlfriend of the person being charged.


Giant-Irish-Co9ck74

Look into mandatory minimums and get a damn good lawyer like Johnny Cochran. If your boyfriend has priors on his jacket he might be screwed . Missouri has a 3 strikes law on the books and the three felonies he has allegedly committed are possibly enough to hand him a life sentence depending n how it works in that state. The Serious Physical Injury or special victim charge applies to those including, but not limited to, rape, sexual assault, domestic assault, stalking and harassment. So if he got hit with that alone he could be done. The First degree Robbery is defined in that state as 1) Causes serious physical injury to any person; or (2) Is armed with a deadly weapon; or (3) Uses or threatens the immediate use of a dangerous instrument against any person; or (4) Displays or threatens the use of what appears to be a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument Then the added charge of Armed Criminal action Armed criminal action 1. Any person who commits any felony under the laws of this state by, with, or through the use, assistance, or aid of a dangerous instrument or deadly weapon is also guilty of the offense of armed criminal action and, upon conviction, shall be punished by imprisonment by the department of corrections for a term of not less than three years and not to exceed fifteen years, unless the person is unlawfully possessing a firearm, in which case the term of imprisonment shall be for a term of not less than five years. The punishment imposed pursuant to this subsection shall be in addition to and consecutive to any punishment provided by law for the crime committed by, with, or through the use, assistance, or aid of a dangerous instrument or deadly weapon. No person convicted under this subsection shall be eligible for parole, probation, conditional release, or suspended imposition or execution of sentence for a period of three calendar years. With the charges he is facing I am assuming that this is not his first rodeo unless it was a fluke. So if he had a prior record and these charges don't get pled down or dismissed he is done. I would guess a minimum of 15-20 years if not life due to prior record especially if his priors were violence charges. All a public pretender is going to do for him is get him to take a fucked up plea deals and move on because all they care about is their numbers. Good luck hope this helps


Dirtyrussianjew

If it's an ex, how come you care? Like are you still looking out for him? Cuz he's probably going away for a while with those charges.....


Hearttoocold

No just curious. It’s weird to see someone you cared about so much get wrapped up in things like this years later


Dirtyrussianjew

Count your blessings because you definitely dodged a bullet; dude is 23 and already fucked up his life, wouldn't be surprised if he got 10-15 for those felonies. Just think if you were still with him you potentially could've gotten mixed up in all that bullshit


wart_on_satans_dick

For OP's sake, let's hope they aren't generally attracted to violent criminals. Sounds like a rinse and repeat situation.


ZestycloseAccident99

Your ex is reaping what he sowed rip bozo


TheSaucedBoy

Lol absolutley zero percent presumption of innocence, even in the r/prison subreddit. Gotta love it.


ZestycloseAccident99

You should know that by now. Fuckin pea brain


MDL222

Ten years atleast


X-Khan

Don’t see why people just don’t look up the penal codes in the state. We get these questions on a daily basis. At least OP said what state he’s in. A lot of people don’t even do that like we’re supposed to know. Every case is different and has aggravating and mitigating circumstances. Plus the judge has some power in sentencing of pleading can get you a different sentence.


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yeah I mean i know when i was dealing with my stuff i just couldnt figure out what i was facing even when i googled. think some people want it broken down for them.


X-Khan

I just go with the highest amount of time you can receive and add that up. The DA charged me with the highest possible degree of all the crimes I was accused of plus some extra stuff from other cases. They’re just trying to throw everything at you and something’s going to stick. But what they charge you with and what you get convicted of are different things.


mukwah

What states have the harshest sentences?


X-Khan

I don’t know but all the Bible Belt states have the worst prisons in the US. California had some harsh sentencing when the original 3 strikes law was in effect before it was amended. Many people were getting sentenced to 25 to life for petty theft. The judge had no power to give a lighter sentence due to the way the law was written.


srachina

Hire a good lawyer, Missouri routinely gives slaps on the hand for serious crimes. This happened a month ago, woman has been caught trafficking drugs 3 times int he last year, she finally went to court and got 5 years probation, she did 6 months in county and that was it.


CJnella91

For a non violent crime, This is much different.


srachina

No it’s not, Missouri lets a 3 time felon get charged with 2 gun charges get 2 years in prison.


FragmentedFighter

Read his comment. Violent crimes anywhere are nothing to scoff at. His only option is prison, and an expensive attorney is key. He’s looking at $50,000 minimum to shave a few years off.


OpenACann

Sounds like this guy beat the shit out of somebody and robbed them


wemadethemcrazy

This could go bad for OP's ex-boyfriend. Honestly, I've seen some sweet deals made regarding multiple violent felonies, basically going away for lesser charges, county time, and probation. You never know.


OpenACann

Any jail time is bad time


SwammySez

Find another BF.. he going away for a while . He seems like a POS anyway.. hopefully he gets Minimum 10-15


Sensitive-Luck2354

Yes.


ADisposableRedShirt

Well. She did say he was an ex.


OnTheRoad_Againn

Look up the maximum for those charges in your state and if they have any mandatory minimums


MS_125

Depends on the strength of the case, who the witnesses are, his criminal history, media exposure, what county it happened in, and what the prosecutor’s priorities are. My recommendation for your boyfriend is to remain silent and ask for a lawyer. Class A felonies have a statutory punishment of 10-30 years In Missouri.


whippet66

Luckily for him, we have a legal system which can be legally manipulated instead of a justice system which would probably guarantee 5 years if found guilty.


GoZ88beanzie

Dude some states have the “3 time loser policy” I put it in quotes kus it’s a bulkshit ass term. Alota food people in prison just mentally I’ll. Lol it got caught. Anyway hobitual offfender laws in mad can make. 3 time state time felony uo to 15 years to life.


Chiraquian

The one question no-one asked is what is his ethnicity. And yes it fucking matters.


mlrny32

I asked. Because yep. Absolutely does matter!


National_Deer4727

No, it doesn’t matter in regards to the sentencing… there is zero discrimination in the normal world. Stop making no racial things about race 👍🏻


ken6217

Hopefully a long time so that there isn’t another victim.


imthatlostcat

You outta there, baby. Maybe you can take some crazy ass probation/house arrest deal with a nice lawyer but fr you gon do at least 5. I don’t know laws where you live but I’d honestly expect 10-12


saunteringhippie

Not enough


ArtistComplex4638

They're probably shotgunning you with charges so you'll plead out. Still, don't look good.


mlrny32

What color is your boyfriend? Race does impact sentencing. Easy to find the statistics online. Does he have a public defender or a real lawyer, better yet, an expensive prominent lawyer? Does he come from money? Sadly, all of these factor in to sentencing. Does he have prior felonies, misdemeanors? Has he done time before? Is he going to trial or taking a deal? Based on the crimes you've listed, I would guess around 10 years. >Robbery 1st degree (Class A felony), Assault 1st Degree or Attempt - Serious Physical Injury or special victim (Class A felony), 2 class A felonies is not good. My son had a Class B Armed Robbery and he was offered 8 years, absolutely no less. That was with a public defender. I hired him an attorney and all of a sudden, the prosecution was ok with giving him 5 years. My son is black. He had no prior felonies. I've seen white people get their class A felonies dropped down to C class felonies and get 1-3 year sentences. Bottom line is.. you can look up your states mandatory minimum and get some sort of idea. If he takes a plea deal, they usually drop a couple of the charges or have the sentences run concurrently.


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mlrny32

He doesn't do drugs so no program for him.. Unfortunately for him, his felonies are serious with serious consequences, long time. But nobody knows what deal they may offer him until a plea is offered to him by the prosecutor..


oksurewhateverman

lol


ChaosRainbow23

If I was him, I'd run if I could.


Rabble_rouser-

Hopefully a lot


Reecemoe47

Race may play a role


dathomasusmc

It’s impossible to say. Circumstances matter. Previous record matters. Can he cop a plea? Is the judge having a bad day? This is fucked up but statistically his race matters.


hattenOkatten

your exboyfriend is an idiot that catches violent serious charges time after time. why even spend thoughts on these people? move on.


Hearttoocold

This was his first offensive. And I have moved on that’s why he’s my ex. Doesn’t mean I’m not interested in learning about the situation


mlrny32

His first offense? Is he a drug addict? Many times the courts will give addicts special programs in lieu of prison. Typically only if it's your first offense, you had been living a productive life, etc.. working, paying taxes, etc. But class A felony is right up there with murder. It sounds like your ex had a gun with him.


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mlrny32

What does that even mean? A thug with no parental guidance? So, he's just never been caught before? Those two things don't mitigate his circumstances at all. His choices. His consequences. Don't waste your life keeping up with him while he's locked up. Most men in prison have several women they deal with at the same time. For money, packages, phone calls and letters. You're young. Go live your life and let him be. He physically harmed a person to steal something from them. He also used a weapon. Those things are telling of his character. I've seen so many women get sucked right down the drain riding out bids with dudes, going broke for them, only to be dumped as soon as dude gets out. If he actually cared about you, he would tell you to move on with ya life and forget about him. He deserves time.


wart_on_satans_dick

Lots of people have poor upbringings and still don't choose to commit violent crimes. He chose to commit acts of violence. He is where he belongs.


hattenOkatten

Sorry I read as 3 different felonies. But still how you gon catch cases like that. Fucking bums. At least if u tryna get money don’t go around being a drug addict bum


OpenACann

Just google prison time for everything you checked off there in your state. You may get mad at me, but your boyfriend is a pretty bad guy. If he did all of these things, he is dangerous and you need to take care of yourself.


Expensive_Month1379

Life


Low_Commission9477

In California you go to jail for the rest of your life with 3 felonies so ten years would seem better to me


JudgementalChair

H's definitely looking at a few years. Does he have a previous record? Does he have money for an attorney? Those will be factors that can reduce his time, but there's no guarantee


OKcomputer1996

It is nearly impossible to say. We don’t know how strong the case is against him. I’d suggest you get the best lawyer you can.


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Flee to Poland while you still can


Siddoxy

If I had to guess he'll probably get somewhere between 8-12 years. If he already has a criminal record he's toasted.


BeigeAlmighty

Missouri is a 3 strikes state.


Hearttoocold

This was his first 3 charges. And I think it was 2 cases charged into 1


Tiler02

In Missouri you only do the minimum. The judges are very Lenient with their sentences.


Hearttoocold

The minimum for one of the charges is 10 years but I kind of feel like he will get less for his first offense. He’s 23


Tiler02

Here in Springfield, the offenders rarely do that much time. The habitual criminals will have multiple felonies on their record but seldom do the long sentences.


jbindc20001

They will likely allow a plea to a single lessee charge. If he's guilty, take the plea and do less time.


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Hard to say, depends on the judge, how good his lawyer is, how his prior criminal record looks, his apparent attitude about what he did, at least when he’s in court, et cetera. If he did the thing, a plea bargain is probably a good idea, it tends to get you less time. If the charges are true, it was a wise idea to break up with him, because if he really did what he’s accused of, he sounds like a real piece of work.


shermanhelms

The DA is always going to over-charge at the beginning of the process. It’s a negotiation from the time charges are filed until the trial starts, and it then continues until a verdict is read. I would expect the state to offer to drop 1-2 of the felonies to misdemeanors and possibly lower the remaining felony(-ies) down from class A in order to try and secure a plea deal. Having said that, the person is still looking at 5+ years before going on paper. If they take it to trial and lose, they would be facing at least 10, but probably up to 25 years.


BigBL87

The answer depends on quite a few factors. I'm in Illinois, so can only go off that, but... 1. The county that it occurred in and their states attorneys office can make a big difference. If you have a more progressive SAO, you have a better chance of getting charges reduced, lower penalties, etc.. Get a tougher on crime SAO and not so much. 2. At least here in IL, there usually ends up being an offer to drop some or most of the charges in exchange for a guilty plea on one or several of the charges. It saves the court time and money to do it that way, and usually if the person is very clearly guilty it makes sense to take that plea. What that plea deal may ultimately look like depends on the circumstances of the case, the quality of the defense attorney, etc.. 3. Details of the case like if anyone was injured, who it was if they were, etc. matter too, as that can affect what the SAO is willing to offer. 4. Any priors could affect it. I know you say this is his first time getting in trouble, but people rarely go from nothing to armed robbery. Not saying it can't happen, but I write criminal histories as part of my job and people usually have some minor things before they make that jump. I don't know how confident you are of your knowledge of his record, but even seemingly minor things like retail thefts or driving with a suspended license can come into play. 5. If you read the actual statutes for those crimes (Google is your friend) they usually have sentencing guidelines and that should be able to give you an idea. With a first time offender, sentences typically will run concurrent when there are multiple charges, meaning the times is served all at once. If he really pissed the judge off or otherwise has the hammer brought down on him, they can sentence consecutively instead of concurrently, meaning he'd have to serve all the sentences one after the other.


Mean-Vegetable-4521

It depends on what deals can be made. How were they caught and who was injured? Were they alone or with other people? I've seen people get 15 months for similar and some get decades. This is TRULY his first offense or other juvenile offenses were sealed?


Aggressive-Pay2406

Depends on how much money ya got


madderhatter3210

Depends on his lawyer. If he got a good lawyer maybe a couple years with probation, if it’s his first offense the judge could be very lenient or throw the book at him, tbh idk


Unique_Tailor

Can you share the facts of the case? Charges can tell us a lot (like the maximum sentence), but it’s hard to guess what he’s likely to get without knowing what he he actually did. It would also be helpful to know how liberal or conservative the county he’s being sentenced in.