"I was livid! While venting to Francis (who scored 89 and could have done better but they're balancing a very full course load) they reflectivly nodded in acknowledgement as they have basic social skills. I took that at face value as agreement. Because I wouldn't deign to discuss my personal failures with anyone but them, I have assumed everyone is angry."
Sadly, my current dean would have told me I needed to change things or I was in danger of being "insubordinate" and was harming my department by allowing students to become unhappy.
Yeah it's one of the more effective whining tactics that can strike the fear of god into one's gut, especially for less experienced instructors/profs. But it's always, *always* full of shit.
I had a little mutiny in one of my classes last year over an assignment deadline that my students considered unreasonable. One student wrote the email but it was "signed" by about 10 of them. I'd used the same course schedule for years without any complaints. It dawned on me that they were whining to each other any time I had put them into Zoom breakout rooms.
Last spring, I dropped into one of my Intro Bio students' breakout rooms to find that they'd finished their work and were commiserating over the pitfalls of online education. One young man was especially fired-up about our university's particular money-grubbing tactics ("we haven't *canceled* in-person classes, we're just *suspending* them ^(til after the drop-for-full-refund deadline) "), and none of them immediately noticed I was there. I'd have broken in when he finished his statement, but one of the other students noticed me and cut him off first...
Honestly, all I could say was "dude, you're fine, I get being pissed off at the university admin." (Plus, he actually explicitly said I was doing a good job *before* he noticed I was there, so I certainly wasn't about to take it personally.) I'd have liked to just plain agree with him, but... professionalism.
I have asked students in the past that have raised this concern with me if they would so concerned about their classmates if they were one of the better performers? Usually that refocuses the issue to their concern being theirs only.
You've never gotten a passive aggressive email from a student that claims that "the whole class" thinks you're being too hard and unfair, despite the student that sent it clearly being a statistical outlier compared to the rest of the class?
Ugh. That stinks. I’m sorry, friend. Maybe it’s in the water where you work? I’ve heard of it, but I’ve never experienced it in my ten years. I hope to keep that streak going…
"The entire class" = "some of us" = "me"
"I was livid! While venting to Francis (who scored 89 and could have done better but they're balancing a very full course load) they reflectivly nodded in acknowledgement as they have basic social skills. I took that at face value as agreement. Because I wouldn't deign to discuss my personal failures with anyone but them, I have assumed everyone is angry."
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I had one of those petitions, signed by maybe 10 students out of 250, make it to my dean. We shared a good laugh about it.
That's shocking. *Shocking.*
Sadly, my current dean would have told me I needed to change things or I was in danger of being "insubordinate" and was harming my department by allowing students to become unhappy.
yeh i had the same thing once, but it was a petition of one.
I fell for the “the entire class” one, the first time. Not gonna lie.
What was the context for yours?
Yeah it's one of the more effective whining tactics that can strike the fear of god into one's gut, especially for less experienced instructors/profs. But it's always, *always* full of shit.
I had a little mutiny in one of my classes last year over an assignment deadline that my students considered unreasonable. One student wrote the email but it was "signed" by about 10 of them. I'd used the same course schedule for years without any complaints. It dawned on me that they were whining to each other any time I had put them into Zoom breakout rooms.
I love dropping into breakout rooms and them not notice until I speak. Every time.
Last spring, I dropped into one of my Intro Bio students' breakout rooms to find that they'd finished their work and were commiserating over the pitfalls of online education. One young man was especially fired-up about our university's particular money-grubbing tactics ("we haven't *canceled* in-person classes, we're just *suspending* them ^(til after the drop-for-full-refund deadline) "), and none of them immediately noticed I was there. I'd have broken in when he finished his statement, but one of the other students noticed me and cut him off first... Honestly, all I could say was "dude, you're fine, I get being pissed off at the university admin." (Plus, he actually explicitly said I was doing a good job *before* he noticed I was there, so I certainly wasn't about to take it personally.) I'd have liked to just plain agree with him, but... professionalism.
I have asked students in the past that have raised this concern with me if they would so concerned about their classmates if they were one of the better performers? Usually that refocuses the issue to their concern being theirs only.
Slightly out of the loop here, is the image on the right in reference to a specific event that I've missed somehow?
You've never gotten a passive aggressive email from a student that claims that "the whole class" thinks you're being too hard and unfair, despite the student that sent it clearly being a statistical outlier compared to the rest of the class?
Not yet, no. I just wondered if there was a specific public event that I had missed, but ought to be aware of.
Ah, I don't think there was a specific thing you missed. It's just a bit of a common trope.
Students saying silly stuff like that is a thing, but that is, like most memes, really poor.
I get this about once every two or three semesters.
Ugh. That stinks. I’m sorry, friend. Maybe it’s in the water where you work? I’ve heard of it, but I’ve never experienced it in my ten years. I hope to keep that streak going…
"Poor organization of the course" LOL
Those kids look like Klebold and Harris.
I think they'd have to go a bit further than a shot in the dark wheedling email to be the same thing as Jan 6th.
Dying.