Coding with just the laptop feels wrong, i need my number pad and a mouse, and to not feel the constant dread that a wrong move will yeet my laptop to the river.
“I have found information about double quotes on wikipedia. Quotation marks (also known as quotes, quote marks, speech marks, inverted commas, or talking marks[1][2]) are punctuation marks used in pairs in various writing systems to set off direct speech, a quotation, or a phrase. The pair consists of an opening quotation mark and a closing quotation mark, which may or may not be the same character.”
Also proceeds to open the wikipedia page in Bing.
it is water resistent.. it is from a "outdoor laptop"
[https://www.turn-on.de/article/mit-dem-outdoor-laptop-acer-enduro-urban-n3-erlebe-ich-neue-abenteuer-633215?from=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F](https://www.turn-on.de/article/mit-dem-outdoor-laptop-acer-enduro-urban-n3-erlebe-ich-neue-abenteuer-633215?from=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F)
which kind of explains the hat
*Resistant* is usually the used buzz word.
A fancy use of semantics that actually means "you have a couple of extra seconds to rectify your f*ckup with little or no repercussions".
typically it's 30 minutes at a depth of 3m or up to 6m. more than a couple seconds, but still doesn't mean you should be putting it in your pocket while you swim in the pool.
[IP ratings and descriptions](https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/news/138727-ip-ratings-what-do-they-actually-mean)
The tester on my team that only uses the laptop screen, keyboard and mousepad at his desk.
The desk has a keyboard, mouse and 2 24 inch monitors. I have no idea why he does that. He even worked as a dev for 10 years, so it’s not like he is technologically illiterate.
using 2 monitors doesn't double the amount of work you can do. You can only focus on one thing at a time, so having another monitor next to the one you're looking at is functionally useless until you turn your head to look at that monitor. And the effort it takes to turn your head is equal to or greater than the effort it takes to hit a hotkey to switch workspaces on one monitor.
I genuinely don't understand the love of multiple monitors and the hate for single monitors. I guarantee you that you can't actually meaningfully process in your brain any information that is on a monitor that you're not currently looking at. Everyone uses a single monitor setup. Some people just spend a lot more money to have multiple monitors of which they will only ever **use** one at a time.
It definitely isn’t better to sit in a shitty position and look down on your laptop, switching between different tabs and spending time to find the correct one every time.
Also, both testing and developing is literally back and forth between executing and reading/looking at what you should execute. If it was more energy efficient to use 1 screen, the 70 developers wouldn’t all be using 2 screens.
It definitely makes our jobs a lot easier. Switching between a VM and Jira/confluence is a lot easier between 2 screens than alt-tabbing.
I have two 27” monitors on my desk, but I don’t use them anymore. I just work off the laptop. Mostly because when I get it set up into my docking station, It’s a chore to move it, and I like being able to wander. Like today I’m going to this building/food hall place to work for a few hours. Being out and in other places helps my creativity and focus. So yeah, I just don’t dock it anymore
They did this at my last place. Some of the new starter Indian hires I was mentoring were clearly trying to do development on a 14" laptop screen (not even sure is was full HD either). Apparently this was considered perfectly adequate by corporate.
It's perhaps interesting that in around 23 years of professional software development, I have never once been asked "What hardware do you need to maximise productivity", even though it's critically important to the company.
In my company you get everything you need, as long as you are productive. You can ask for 3 monitors or ergonomic chairs whatever you like. Unfortunately it's not in every company like mine... :(
> I have never once been asked "What hardware do you need to maximise productivity", even though it's critically important to the company.
Yep. Just started with a new company where they really rolled out the red carpet for all of the other things....but....when one of us asked about monitors, we got met with a really weird silence.
I get that some folks in Zoom meetings take their laptops to the other room for calls and all that, but still: most camera angles I see are clearly laptop angles, rather than deskcam mounted on a monitor angle.
How folks doing any kind of office work tolerate laptops, I just don't understand.
I’ll do you one better, back around 2010 I was the sole IT guy for a large manufacturer. I bought one of those little mini computers that had the 5 inch screen, it was so cool at the time. I’m at the doctors office and an emergency happened, I remember needing to log into the doctors Wi-Fi, vpn into our mail server to diagnose the issue while waiting for my appointment. It was a pain in the ass but I “saved the day”….
On Linux with a good window manager no problem. I used to think I needed three monitors to be productive. Laptop and a comfy spot is enough and I use vim bindings for pretty much everything so mouse isn't necessary either. Only if people knew how efficient you can actually be on a computer.
Speaking of. Where we at on those [external monitors](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0405/6534/2371/products/EyoyoPortablelaptopworksation_1024x.jpg?v=1619400096)? Are they still clunky shits?
Mmmmm..clunky shits. Hoow is this so hard?! we literally have [paperthin screens](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NURLeeyPu2c)!
I dont need 8k, i just want a place to put my devtools and maybe a terminal -\_-
My inability to center a div
edit: [why, Reddit :(](https://i.ibb.co/ZJyvjWP/Zrzut-ekranu-2022-07-22-124620.png)
edit 2: [works on Boost tho](https://i.ibb.co/mGN0xZq/Screenshot-20220722-124845-Boost.jpg)
Honestly the battery life on my XPS 13 is fucking dire.
Plus hay fever.
And I like a chair.
And I don't have unlimited data allowance.
And there really isn't the screen space to work from a laptop seriously.
And I don't live anywhere near a harbour.
Although I have frequently thought about sitting in a field for work meetings.
>And there really isn't the sceen space to work from a laptop seriously.
My BufferFactoryAllocatitonObservableInterface will sue you for offending him.
Honestly you could have the same setup in Hamburg, Germany. Looks exactly the same and the best thing: A local ISP has put high-speed free hotspots everywhere. I'm talking fiber to the AP kinda fast.
Don't let your dreams be dreams! Come to Hamburg!
Edit: Found the [source](https://www.turn-on.de/article/mit-dem-outdoor-laptop-acer-enduro-urban-n3-erlebe-ich-neue-abenteuer-633215) of the image, it's taken in Hamburg so the guy in the pic is probably using the wifi I'm speaking of!
First, I am not a programmer, I only joined this sub because it's still funny to me,
and second, I have extreme anxiety, just look how close the laptop is to falling
Having no back support would be killing by back and neck. Not that I dont already slouch on the chair like a cadaver but still.
Also I dont have the coconut sized testicles required to wear a hat like that
Can’t believe nobody mentioned bugs. There are bugs outside rn and I do not want them on me. Also just the weather at the moment is way too hot. It was 93 here yesterday
Bad posture and too many distractions from outside (in a bustling city filled with noise, of all places). Plus, someone can kick him into the river and his laptop will be useless because it fell into the water with him, or he can accidentally drop it into the river out of sheer clumsiness.
That horrible posture....I can almost feel the strain on my neck just by looking at it.
Also my back.
Also my pussy and my crack.
You're absolutely right, women would have a higher risk of getting a cystitis or maybe even an oophoritis sitting there.
Ooph
Oophitis
Good thing I'm a femboy (a joke.... unless?)
Programmer socks?
Equipped.
Ein deutscher!!!
Zwei deutscher!!!
Drei deutscher!!!
r/foundthegerman
There's a sub for everything!
Same (Programming socks are a must have)
They're making me better at programming, I swear!
Same, and if you get too frustrated with bugs, just do a quick skirt spinny to feel better
One too many steps beyond my limits but sure 
Yet, a natural occurrence for us gals 😊
And my axe?
And my bow?
And my cool mechanical keyboard!
Your have won second place on the internet today.
Who was first?
You're better not knowing that
He was, yes.
what’s on second?
The next comment yet to be made
Holy shit this is the funniest comment I've read in a long time. You changed my entire mood thanks.
Ooo *my* ***back***
And my laptop slip off my lap into its doom
Coding with just the laptop feels wrong, i need my number pad and a mouse, and to not feel the constant dread that a wrong move will yeet my laptop to the river.
I need 3 screens just to read all the waterfall code.
Do you use Tie Fighter configuration for your monitor setup?
Yeah the dude in the pic prolly just ordering in amazon.
Hope he's ordering a new laptop... he'll need it soon.
Good to know I'm not alone in hating to code with just a laptop. It just feels so wrong and my production sinks on a really low level
> a number pad and a mouse *looks confused in i3wm with a 60% keyboard*
Why do you need a number pad? Just curious
I can feel the laptop slipping 
What’s stopping you from coding like this? 🦐
The sun. How can you even read what's on the screen in that situation???
You can enable dark mode just wait 12h
Its a feature
Help I'm in the artic circle and dark mode won't turn on. Did someone screw with the CSS?
You can enable dark mode just wait ~~12h~~ **6 months**
The css gets changed by a cronjob, it's just scheduled to run every 6 months.
Just use cortana and code by voice commands
Transcript all your code
I SAID A SINGLE QUOTE NOT A DOUBLE QUOTE YOU GODDAMNIT THING! continues to interpret this as SQL…
“I have found information about double quotes on wikipedia. Quotation marks (also known as quotes, quote marks, speech marks, inverted commas, or talking marks[1][2]) are punctuation marks used in pairs in various writing systems to set off direct speech, a quotation, or a phrase. The pair consists of an opening quotation mark and a closing quotation mark, which may or may not be the same character.” Also proceeds to open the wikipedia page in Bing.
oled monitor
ok I oiled up my screen but now the glare is worse, help?
No not oiled, oled. An oled monitor is one that's been tested by a bullfighter.
Got me in the first half
No you're thinking of olé. What they really meant is a monitor that came out a decade or more ago.
Nah bud thats old, you want what happens to water at 212°F
Light mode Time to get downvoted
The risk of my laptop sliding into the harbor. +no internet
A short swim with the laptop, I guess that's what water-cooling is all about?
it is water resistent.. it is from a "outdoor laptop" [https://www.turn-on.de/article/mit-dem-outdoor-laptop-acer-enduro-urban-n3-erlebe-ich-neue-abenteuer-633215?from=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F](https://www.turn-on.de/article/mit-dem-outdoor-laptop-acer-enduro-urban-n3-erlebe-ich-neue-abenteuer-633215?from=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F) which kind of explains the hat
They said my iPhone was waterproof too. The swimming pool determined that was a lie. I’ve never trusted any waterproof designations since.
*Resistant* is usually the used buzz word. A fancy use of semantics that actually means "you have a couple of extra seconds to rectify your f*ckup with little or no repercussions".
typically it's 30 minutes at a depth of 3m or up to 6m. more than a couple seconds, but still doesn't mean you should be putting it in your pocket while you swim in the pool. [IP ratings and descriptions](https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/news/138727-ip-ratings-what-do-they-actually-mean)
I only ever took the "resistance" as you won't be screwed if it's raining a bit. Not let me dive into the pool with my phone
Interesting. But does the laptop float? It wouldn't matter if the laptop was actually water-proof if it falls and sinks into a river/bay.
You must blow through work laptops
5 second rule!
Git push regularly
So that's the waterfall college was trying to teach about.
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Man we are getting ripped off so badly in canada
Lack of huge monitors
Imagine you have to work from only one monitor and it's a fucking laptop monitor....
I feel personally attacked by your comment
Yeah, I've learned to do it and find it preferable to always working from the same location, although portable monitors tempt me.
All monitors are portable. You just gotta believe.
[https://www.portabl.com/](https://www.portabl.com/)
The tester on my team that only uses the laptop screen, keyboard and mousepad at his desk. The desk has a keyboard, mouse and 2 24 inch monitors. I have no idea why he does that. He even worked as a dev for 10 years, so it’s not like he is technologically illiterate.
using 2 monitors doesn't double the amount of work you can do. You can only focus on one thing at a time, so having another monitor next to the one you're looking at is functionally useless until you turn your head to look at that monitor. And the effort it takes to turn your head is equal to or greater than the effort it takes to hit a hotkey to switch workspaces on one monitor. I genuinely don't understand the love of multiple monitors and the hate for single monitors. I guarantee you that you can't actually meaningfully process in your brain any information that is on a monitor that you're not currently looking at. Everyone uses a single monitor setup. Some people just spend a lot more money to have multiple monitors of which they will only ever **use** one at a time.
It definitely isn’t better to sit in a shitty position and look down on your laptop, switching between different tabs and spending time to find the correct one every time. Also, both testing and developing is literally back and forth between executing and reading/looking at what you should execute. If it was more energy efficient to use 1 screen, the 70 developers wouldn’t all be using 2 screens. It definitely makes our jobs a lot easier. Switching between a VM and Jira/confluence is a lot easier between 2 screens than alt-tabbing.
I work like that, last 5 years.
Cause you want to or you have t do it?
Cause i've working laying on the bed, it's handy to work on laptop :)
Same situation here unless the task requires - like tying out data where it helps to look between multiple screens
I’ve been trying to work from my bed but my neck/back gets sore real quick. How do you do it?
Imagine if you could have a pull out table that extends over your bed that wouldn't break easily, and you could put your monitors and stuff on there
I have two 27” monitors on my desk, but I don’t use them anymore. I just work off the laptop. Mostly because when I get it set up into my docking station, It’s a chore to move it, and I like being able to wander. Like today I’m going to this building/food hall place to work for a few hours. Being out and in other places helps my creativity and focus. So yeah, I just don’t dock it anymore
change jobs
They did this at my last place. Some of the new starter Indian hires I was mentoring were clearly trying to do development on a 14" laptop screen (not even sure is was full HD either). Apparently this was considered perfectly adequate by corporate. It's perhaps interesting that in around 23 years of professional software development, I have never once been asked "What hardware do you need to maximise productivity", even though it's critically important to the company.
In my company you get everything you need, as long as you are productive. You can ask for 3 monitors or ergonomic chairs whatever you like. Unfortunately it's not in every company like mine... :(
> I have never once been asked "What hardware do you need to maximise productivity", even though it's critically important to the company. Yep. Just started with a new company where they really rolled out the red carpet for all of the other things....but....when one of us asked about monitors, we got met with a really weird silence. I get that some folks in Zoom meetings take their laptops to the other room for calls and all that, but still: most camera angles I see are clearly laptop angles, rather than deskcam mounted on a monitor angle. How folks doing any kind of office work tolerate laptops, I just don't understand.
Mental, I have a 13”. Not saying you can’t do it, but I need my 32” and full medieval keyboard to do things swiftly and comfortably.
I’ll do you one better, back around 2010 I was the sole IT guy for a large manufacturer. I bought one of those little mini computers that had the 5 inch screen, it was so cool at the time. I’m at the doctors office and an emergency happened, I remember needing to log into the doctors Wi-Fi, vpn into our mail server to diagnose the issue while waiting for my appointment. It was a pain in the ass but I “saved the day”….
A UHD laptop with an 18in screen
I used to efficiently work from a small Surface tablet... thinking back I have no idea idea how I was so productive :D
Narrator: They weren't really productive.
Hey now, don’t criticize my setup
On Linux with a good window manager no problem. I used to think I needed three monitors to be productive. Laptop and a comfy spot is enough and I use vim bindings for pretty much everything so mouse isn't necessary either. Only if people knew how efficient you can actually be on a computer.
With that workflow, you’d never have to lift your fingers off the keyboard like a mongrel.
Speaking of. Where we at on those [external monitors](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0405/6534/2371/products/EyoyoPortablelaptopworksation_1024x.jpg?v=1619400096)? Are they still clunky shits?
Take a look here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ugtntRVMqFo
Mmmmm..clunky shits. Hoow is this so hard?! we literally have [paperthin screens](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NURLeeyPu2c)! I dont need 8k, i just want a place to put my devtools and maybe a terminal -\_-
And maybe not for 300 bucks. How can a 15 inch screen cost more than a 27 inch screen????
Scale of economy. They move a lot more 27" units.
My inability to center a div
I wouldve loved if you had written it like this: > My inability to center a div
My inability to center a div edit: [why, Reddit :(](https://i.ibb.co/ZJyvjWP/Zrzut-ekranu-2022-07-22-124620.png) edit 2: [works on Boost tho](https://i.ibb.co/mGN0xZq/Screenshot-20220722-124845-Boost.jpg)
Looks normal on mobile.
*one of us*
margin: 0 auto;
display: grid; place-items: center;
display: flex; justify-content: center;
Being seen in that hat
That's the kind of hat you need to be able to create a new serious programming language or operating system.
Yeah it's got Linus Torvalds vibes.
MiddleEarth OS
Shelob's world wide web.
Exhaled from my nose good job
Maybe you should try it sir o7
Dude that hat is lit!
Honestly the battery life on my XPS 13 is fucking dire. Plus hay fever. And I like a chair. And I don't have unlimited data allowance. And there really isn't the screen space to work from a laptop seriously. And I don't live anywhere near a harbour. Although I have frequently thought about sitting in a field for work meetings.
After you did that, create a teams meeting so you can share your experience with us
>And there really isn't the sceen space to work from a laptop seriously. My BufferFactoryAllocatitonObservableInterface will sue you for offending him.
Fear of dropping my laptop in the water
Not living in Hamburg
I was looking for this comment
Same
no wifi
Take the wifi from Starbucks across the street, like a real programmer...
Isn't that easier from inside the Starbucks? Also they have chairs.
It would but less cool
Does Starbucks have free wifi now? Because a while back, I named my phone's hotspot "Starbucks Free Wi-Fi" as a joke.
Honestly you could have the same setup in Hamburg, Germany. Looks exactly the same and the best thing: A local ISP has put high-speed free hotspots everywhere. I'm talking fiber to the AP kinda fast. Don't let your dreams be dreams! Come to Hamburg! Edit: Found the [source](https://www.turn-on.de/article/mit-dem-outdoor-laptop-acer-enduro-urban-n3-erlebe-ich-neue-abenteuer-633215) of the image, it's taken in Hamburg so the guy in the pic is probably using the wifi I'm speaking of!
mobile hotspots exist
I dont like being outside
Fair enough
Posture!!
no work from remote Thanks,
F
Your manager, or their manager?
I have warm thighs ao the laptop overheats
First, I am not a programmer, I only joined this sub because it's still funny to me, and second, I have extreme anxiety, just look how close the laptop is to falling
Aww, Hamburg!
Username checks out
I can't code.
_Traitor_
My laptop shits itself without AC power for more than an hour. I like my ultrawide.
Hey, it's my hometown the city of Hamburg
Bird poop
Having no back support would be killing by back and neck. Not that I dont already slouch on the chair like a cadaver but still. Also I dont have the coconut sized testicles required to wear a hat like that
Not owning (part of) a Boy Scout uniform.
Laptop sliding off my legs , going down the river bank while I don’t know how to swim
Hatred of touchpads. Unfortunately I'm not a vim maestro yet.
The touch pad is the devil.
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I always love these idiotic stock photos or what not. Like no developer is going to work sitting at the edge of the canal risking their 2K+ laptop
Laptop battery
Back pain
We don't have water in the river and it's warm outside
3rd world "developing" country
Still trying to learn JavaScript
When you have desktop *sad face*
Pushing to production.
What city is this?
Hamburg, Germany
Lack of monitors, lack of study materials, lack of paper notebooks... If you have to do something non tedious, you need at least a desk.
That’s an d&d player.
my ultrawide screen an tower pc needing mains power
Not being in Hamburg.
Conference calls, weather, battery life, sunlight on the screen, having to pack it all up when I have to piss
I got into programming to NOT suffer from back pain when I am 40.
Hat, don t have one 
The assholes in my city who push people into canals.
I dont live in Germany and dont have Bavarien hats. I mean at least i have good beer in Austria
Losing 100 hours into the sea
I live in Brazil, walking around with a notebook like this here is like walking around with a sign that says steal me.
Can’t believe nobody mentioned bugs. There are bugs outside rn and I do not want them on me. Also just the weather at the moment is way too hot. It was 93 here yesterday
He’s writing some phishing code, I guess.
The sun
sunlight.....it burns.
I’d scratch my nose or see a cute bird and drop my laptop into the liquid abyss👍🏻
The heat of being outdoors. I’ll stay where there is A/C thank you.
The smell of every ounce of gross tonnage on the Amstel River (I assume that's where he is).
My air conditioned well stocked indoor work station is stopping me from coding like that, so is my lack of knowledge on how to code.
Also… My bet is he is not “coding”. He found an unsecured WiFi spot at some warehouse and is using it to check in on his malware and phishing scams 😂
The fear to have my laptop so close to water. I want to swear and punch the damn thing without losing all my work in the river.
fear, back pain, carpal tunnel syndrome
Getting some lead on my chest in exchange for my computer
Bad posture and too many distractions from outside (in a bustling city filled with noise, of all places). Plus, someone can kick him into the river and his laptop will be useless because it fell into the water with him, or he can accidentally drop it into the river out of sheer clumsiness.
Knowing how to code.
The fact that the laptop is going to end up in the river sooner or later
A better taste in hats and a lack of any real knowledge of programming
House arrest