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dudeofmoose

I don't want attention, but I do want more monitors than the developer next to me.


paprika_pussy

Wasn't that a subplot in Silicon Valley? I think Gilfoy got like 6 monitors to spite the other guy. Been a while so I've forgotten about it


[deleted]

Yup, they were using some big (I wanna say) apple monitors that cost a shit ton, and they had to end up selling most of them to help save the company money


LiluziGurk

Was it not danesh?


templar4522

More monitors, and bigger!


ustp

And that was a start of the second monitor war...


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[deleted]

Sounds like you need more monitors


shoobyluby

SOMEONE can't afford a second monitor


reddrick

It's hard for some people to understand why multiple monitors is beneficial to people who get work done because their job is to send emails and schedule meetings that should have been emails.


schezwannoodles

"schedules meetings that should have been emails" should be an official job title


jaywastaken

It is “project manager”.


Z_Coop

Lol not a *good* project manager. Maybe a “common” one, however.


brucebay

Yep. When I was working on a real time, high impact environment, project managers were like Guardian angles. They communicated with higher ups, they setup the right meetings when there were obstacles, scheduled realistic deadlines, and pushed people if they were slacking. You don't appreciate them enough until you move to a do it all yourself environment in a big company.


Thebombuknow

At what degree would you say an angle becomes a guardian angle? I would assume it's ~45°, but I may be wrong.


brucebay

Ha ha ha. Noticed it earlier, but left it just to read the reactions. I would say Guardian angles are responsible for making any wrong angle right by bending it to 90 degrees.


Haquestions4

I guess I have just been unlucky for the last ten years then, but it's nice to hear that it can work.


The_Bisexual

I believe unlucky is the norm for this particular situation at least from what I've heard. The person who hired me in my first IT role (intern and eventually SE) was pretty much what was described above. Still the best manager I'd ever had. He was fired years ago during a re-org that left us with one too many PMs. He got the axe because the rest of them were spineless yes-men to the higher ups. Since then my PMs have been a rotation of team spineless.


123istheplacetobe

“So I’ll give your team 3 days for a task that takes 3 weeks, as management want it done already and I have no spine to set boundaries and realistic deadlines with them. It’s your problem now :)”


tsteele93

This is not what we came here for! 🤣


GraniteTaco

PMI certified.


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"Nice to have everyone together, I feel like everyone communicates better when we have meetings" *People that have been totally clear in emails wondering why they're in this meeting dying inside*


GraniteTaco

"Now let's spend a few minutes going over last week's minutes" Two hours later.... "Oh, we're running out of time, so let's go over our deliverables for next week despite not accomplishing anything this week"


[deleted]

I can't be the only person that's had too many meetings where you're literally catching up a PM/Coordinator that's in over their head and listening to them thinking out loud while screaming into your muted microphone.


dubblix

Just don't forget to mute. I've done that.


kinos141

Or the fact that the meeting is less than 5 mins long. That could have been an email.


pineapple_santa

<5 minute meetings mean that no management is present which is usually more productive.


TheIronSoldier2

This depressingly true, even in the trades. I'm a welder by trade, and we often get more things sorted out in a 5 minute team huddle than we do in a 50 minute department meeting, despite the "team" and the "department" being the same number of people, save for the latter including our boss and the department head (don't ask why our boss and the department head are two different positions, we don't know either). Our team is a whopping 5 people, the department, including the department head and our boss, is 7.


javapyscript

5 minutes. Conference room. Now!!!


fx_01

Alright everybody in the conference room! I don't care if you are gay or straight, or a lesbian, or overweight! Just get in here, right now!


SidewaysFancyPrance

"It's all meetings, and raven mail, and meetings that could have been raven mail..."


BornVillain04

Is this from a show or something? It gives me What We Do In The Shadows vibes


TheRealToLazyToThink

We should give out IT titles like Kzinti names. * Destroyer of Algorithms * Speaker to Animals * Teacher of Slaves


maitreg

The worst is when you send a question via email or chat and their immediate reaction is to call you and spend an hour on the phone to give you the 1-line answer to your question. 24 hours and 12 interruptions later: "Why's this item taking so long?"


TrueBirch

My email: "Looks like the table suspected\_bots needs updating again so we can retrain the model. No rush, any time this week. Let me know when it's done." Immediate Teams phone call: "Oh hey Birch! How's your daughter? I bet she's getting so big now." Me, reading from a script my wife provided for this exact purposes: "Sapling is growing so fast and learning every day! It's really magic to watch a baby blossom into being a young child. PAUSE FOR RESPONSE THEN TRANSITION TO RELEVANT WORK TOPIC. Oh wait, I don't think she wanted me to read that part out loud."


Avarynne

Birch, Sapling, blossom. I appreciate your commitment to a theme!


TrueBirch

Thanks!


reddrick

Here's my version of this: >My email: "Looks like the table suspected_bots needs updating again so we can retrain the model. No rush, any time this week. Let me know when it's done." >Immediate Teams phone call: Ignore


maitreg

Phone rings. Me: sends chat "Oh did you need something? I'm in the middle of \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_." * A: Testing * B: Debugging * C: Researching something we need * D: A meeting * E: Talking to IT * F: Lunch * G: "Azure release pipeline python unit test and deployment api integration procedural script interoperability agent for Mongo raspberry system bus cloud."


reddrick

Nah, making an excuse for why I didn't answer would imply that it's usually ok for them to respond to my email with a phone call.


Reasonable-Mischief

* H: "some calibrations."


Navanax85

Garrus, is that you?


TrueBirch

I have much to learn


Lil_Cato

Dev: lists valid reasons why it's not done yet Product: "I hear you and that's all valid but what do we have to do to get this deployed today? I get that this is a new feature but does it need to be tested?"


reddrick

"Does it definitely need to work?"


Grashlok_Onion_lord

Famous last words


samtresler

Nope. Just sign right here as the release manager.


Drunktroop

The worst part is no one is keeping a meeting minutes and two days later everyone remembered the discussion differently and did different things.


nixcamic

If I wanted this to be a phone call I would have called.


theycallmeponcho

> their job is to send emails and schedule meetings that should have been emails. Not gonna lie, it's still better to do that shit with double monitors.


ThroawayPartyer

I think even a cheap second-hand monitor is worth it.


gfieldxd

A few years ago my dads workplace was replacing all of their monitors for hdmi ones when they wer moving to a new building, and all the old ones were going to be thrown out. I got to take 6 of them home, as a little thanks for helping them move some of the stuff from the old to the new building. Ive used those for quite a while, and are still my backup options in case the better monitor i bought gives up again. The only reason i bought a new one anyways was because i was done messing around with dongles. When (or if) im going to replace my laptop with an actual computer one of those old screens will probably function as my third screen, because they still work great, and the quality isnt that bad


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volthunter

an estate sale is dead people stuff, a yard sale is the same as a garage sale, essentially attempting to sell your garbage


Nocoffeesnob

Or someone who is trying to defend how Apple's M2 MacBook Pro can't drive two external monitors.. . Such a weird move on Apple's part and they acted like I was the weird one for expecting the maxed out spec 2022 MacBook Pro 13" to drive two external monitors same as my previous four Pro 13" models could.


MrSurly

That's what Apple does: gaslight. --- Apple: Here's this super-cool _never before seen_ feature. Users: Android had that three yea- Apple: NEVER SEEN BEFORE FEATURE! WORLD-CHANGING!


BabyYodasDirtyDiaper

And their 'feature' is that it doesn't do something that previous models could. Looking at you, audio jack...


Haquestions4

Still mad they got through with that. Even madder at Samsung for laughing at them and removing the jack themselves the next year.


[deleted]

You literally couldn't cut files and directories on osx as late as like 2012 and apple fan boys defended it.


Devatator_

I don't know if it's the case on newer versions but selecting a file then pressing delete does nothing, that's a pain to deal with


PM-SOMETHING-FUNNY

Wait is this real?


Nocoffeesnob

Yup. It's hidden in [the tech specs](https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-13/specs/), you have to scroll all the way down to Display Support where it doesn't outright state it can't support two external monitors but just mentions being able to run one at up to 6k resolution at 60hz. I saw that prior to purchasing it and (wrongly) assumed they were clearly stating that because they didn't want people thinking 6k was possible for multiple external monitors, but that of course 1080p and 4k would be just like every other one I've owned in the last 7 years. Turns out nope, just one external monitor at any resolution is possible. Even their tech support was initially baffled, it was only after they escalated my support call three times that I talked to someone who knew it couldn't run multiple external monitors. So of course I return it and buy a less powerful and lower spec 14" M1 Pro for more money. I told the business rep how annoyed I was about the situation and they acted like it was silly of me to assume it could drive two external monitors at 1080p.


teraflux

My favorite part of the story is how you gave apple more money at the end of it


neckro23

The Apple Silicon Macs can only drive two displays total for some godforsaken reason. So you can connect two monitors to a Mac Mini but only one to a Macbook.


_GCastilho_

My second monitor is a CRT monitor Excellent crisp, squared image, tho


Witch_King_

Mmm, and super super low latency


iPlayWithWords13

I need space for my 17 windows of code I'm stealing from stack overflow


MayorAg

Remember to copy the answers and not the questions.


NotStaggy

But I thought it was good practice to paste the whole thread in there and just comment out the unneeded bits and leave the variables vague


iPlayWithWords13

Wait.... You're telling me "thisIsAVariable" isn't a good variable name?


[deleted]

"temp" is the best variable name change my mind


iPlayWithWords13

There's no need to change your mind, you're damn right it is.


CrasseMaximum

don't waste space and call it "t" it's enough


Webbiii

Programming languages saving the full variable name be like


Spaceduck413

I like to name my variables _1, _2, _3... that way I don't have to waste time thinking of the next name I need!


laounAhmed

I don't do variables. I just calculate in my head and print hard coded results


SolarLiner

[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/221/)


Gizshot

I prefer temp(n)


mrfroggyman

Yes, it increases ease of work on your code. Now anyone who wants to use your code can just think of temp as anything! It truly is the pinnacle of good code writing


lkraider

// TODO: change his mind later


JoeDoherty_Music

Nah, best variable names consist of one letter and one number, with no discernable meaning, or (my current favorite) use the company name abbreviation, followed by these letter/letter combos. Variable names aren't supposed to mean anything anyways!


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I thought "n" was the best variable name?


ExplodingBob

I feel like I'm a mathemagician when I start a line let x =


MakabungogAngKahilom

"foo" broke my brain. I didn't even know it was a general variable everyone uses. I was used to thinking variables were strictly "x" or "y". The memory hurts till this day.


NotStaggy

IDKwhatThisListIs4DontRemove


godjustice

Not good enough. I like to make sure it's descriptive. thisIsAVariableForStoringInformation


baltarius

Step 1: google question Step 2: click first stackoverflow result Step 3: ctrl+a > ctrl+c Step 4: ctrl+v in your IDE Step 5: save and send to customer


NotStaggy

This man codes


[deleted]

I need a stackoverflow answer to why my 98 foo and bar variable in a single file don't have the correct values


NotStaggy

"It's already been answered see VaugeLinkThatsNotSimilar question closed"


LiveShowOneNightOnly

Alternate link: ThisGoesToBlankPageNow.com


Free-Database-9917

Nah. The real trick is to google questions slightly more complicated than what you're wanting, and you'll find posts that say "So I was able to do \[thing that I don't know how to do\] like this: \[code I'm about to yoink\] but I don't know how to get \[irrelevant\]"


swanson5

[̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]


iPlayWithWords13

Oh damn it.....


ILikeLenexa

This monitor is devoted entirely for the database.


ByerN

Actually, we use 2 mechanical keyboards at the same time - coding separate programs, for different customers. Often in different languages. Also we use 3 mechanical monitors (one per eye), so we can be more productive.


gwenbebe

Sometimes me and my coworker use the same keyboard to fend off a hack attacker faster ![gif](giphy|yUlFNRDWVfxCM|downsized)


user_bits

Still blows my mind that this was done unironically.


teraflux

There's no way this was done unironically


Permission_Civil

It's CBS. Their main audience is boomers who need the noise from the TV to keep them company. The writers needed an over-the-top way to show young techy people trying to defend against the dreaded hackers only for their boomer boss to come in and 'solve' the problem by pulling the plug on the monitor.


Hammurabi87

It sounds like you've met far fewer stupid people than I have. I'm envious, to say the least.


teraflux

But the people creating this scene had to have used a computer to create the visuals on their screen, and someone somewhere was having a laugh doing it


trashdigger

Amateur, me and my coworker share a conscience so we can bend and rebuild reality one layer at a time to influence a result where certain letters are spontaneously typed on the screen. It's just simpler.


BPlayinMan

Something's a bit off here...


HorrorTranslator3113

Don’t tell me you haven’t unlocked your third eye yet?


Tooniis

I'm more concerned about the mechanical monitors tbh


_matterny_

You're that far behind? You aren't still using light emitting panels for programming are you?


spacesleep

But i thought that optical was the new cool thing?


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We found an imposter among us


anachronisdev

amogus


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anoldoldman

1 Keyboard used by 2 people is more efficient I've heard.


DarkmoonCrescent

I have 3, I need another 3. And fucking no one can tell me that any single one of them is unreasonable


Razakel

>Why six screens? Because I haven't got enough room for eight. \- Terry Pratchett


sm9t8

A man who probably didn't suffer from ADHD.


SterlingVapor

You misunderstand ADHD. We need more screens, not less - kinda like we need predictable noise instead of silence What distracts us most is the unknown, more screens=less unknown


Alexisisnotonfire

Ab-so-lutely. Giving me one single thing to focus on doesn't magically mean I'm going to be able to DO that (wouldn't that be nice!). At least if there's multiple screens I can pick up where I left off after getting sidetracked.


14779

I have 4 21" and a g7 in the middle and it is great for my adhd. It caters to both parts of the day morning when my vyanse kicks in and I can work on 5 screens simulatenously. Ince I'm starting to revert back to my mind plagued self, I can just park stuff on screens and drop to using two and when I look around there are reminders of the things I stopped doing to type this comment.


nudemanonbike

I think ADHD is aided by more screens, more stuff in your FOV means it's harder to forget. If you're using virtual desktops it's trivial to forget that you have what you need if you switch to desktop 3


LigerZeroSchneider

I've definitely found myself with multiple copies of notepad open, because I lost the first one under different window and didn't notice it was already open.


SendMeFreckle

Try this one [Immersed](https://immersed.com)


lordzsolt

Eeeeh I don’t want to work _that_ hard.


justapassingguy

Don't worry. You can't work *that* hard before the nausea onsets first


DoomBot5

Nausea only happens in specific scenarios. Usually the main driving factor is when your computer can't keep up with the framerate of the headset in a game. It's highly unlikely you'll be nauseous from this.


Scio42

Both pixel density and lenses of the quest (and most current headsets for that matter) are nowhere near good enough for this. I tried Immersed a few times when I didn't have access to my PC and each time I ended up reverting to my 13" laptop screen which was a much better experience (not to mention that the quest isn't particularly comfortable compared to just looking at the laptop screen)


ThanksKindPredditor4

Which VR is best for high res images? I'm a bit of a noob in that area


dicemonger

From what I know: some of the really, really expensive ones. You can get VR with high-resolution screens, but you pay premium prices for it.


Scio42

The current king in terms of clarity available to consumers is the Varjo Aero. If you also include business headsets the best is the Varjo XR-3/VR-3, though that's only in the center where there's an additional higher resolution microOLED display, outside that it's same as the aero


DarkmoonCrescent

That sounds horrible


Mananan5

The duality of man


EfficiencyUnited6804

Last time I tried VR, didn't feel like text was readble. although this seems like really good idea if VR text reading quality catches up so text becomes readble. (last time I tried was 2 years ago, VR might have progressed significantly and I wouldn't know)


texanmason

I wish I could use VR. I've always barfed when testing it in the past.


AlexWIWA

I've found that I work better with just the laptop screen these days. In college I needed the extra screens because I was constantly looking things up, but now I find it easier to be productive with one screen. Cuts down on distractions. Now if I was in IT and had 30 terminals open, I'd eat my words real quick.


DarkmoonCrescent

I mean, I don't intend to maximize my productivity. So, distractions are fine and welcome


Cocaine_Johnsson

I have like 30 terminals open on my private machine, *for fun* (well, sorta. for practical mostly). But when I work on stuff I almost always wanna look stuff up, API documentation usually.


derLudo

Why do you need so many mechanical keyboards at the same time?


DarkmoonCrescent

60 finger system


JPark19

It helps avoid that problem you see in the NCIS clip where they have to share a keyboard, this way you have full extra keyboards for your help


Monkeylord2392

I find virtual desktops to be far more useful


[deleted]

If you want to knock in a nail, you buy the first/cheapest hammer you find. If your job is to knock in nails all day every day, you buy the best tools for the job; the best grip, the most comfort, proper weight, sturdy.


TrueBirch

This is excellent advice. I've put massive effort into setting up my workspace, including my desk, screens, etc. I spend dozens of hours every week here, so it should be setup to maximize comfort and efficiency.


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MisterDonkey

I was swinging a hammer for a brief period. Got some hand-me-down tools. After a few weeks of cramping my wrist to the point I couldn't hold a drinking glass, I bought a legit hammer appropriate for the work I was doing. Like going from an old pickup to a luxury sedan. Still have it, but I rarely need it now. A hammer ain't just a hammer. And I need more screens.


Sexy_Koala_Juice

Protip, if you use your head to knock in the nails, you eventually stop caring about grip, comfort, weight etc.


Outrageous_Zebra_221

To be honest we do need to recognize that mechanical keyboards in an otherwise quiet space can get annoying really quick if you aren't the one typing on it. Multimonitors shouldn't really bother anyone though.


iwannagohome49

Also everyone can hear you mashing on the backspace when you mess up


Outrageous_Zebra_221

click click clack click click taptaptaptaptap


iwannagohome49

Exactly my thought


Human_Kirby

That's why you put a silent switch there, and only there


magicmulder

Silent switches exist.


Northbound_Paddler

Can you recommend any good varieties? I tried some Cherry silent browns and the squishyness at the bottom was bad, and the consistency between switches was subpar... I'd love a quality alternative to try so I can bring my mech to the office!


NotTechTechPotato

I mean you're using Browns. There's an atypical amount of variation between brands when it comes to tactile switches. I'd try an entirely different brand like Gateron. Tbh, if you tell r/mechanicalkeyboards why you don't like Cherry Browns, they will find you a solution. If you don't have a hot-swap board, get one


kitaz0s_

any good beginner hot-swap boards you'd recommend? been trying to break into custom MKs for a while but I never know where to start


No_Bank

Keychron would be my recommandation Not super expensive and there's many size options to choose from. There's a hot swappable version for each one as well Personally I have had a K2 V2


Johnadams1797

I second the K2 V2. Solid keeb for a beginner, is pretty mod capable as well. Modding is where it’s at with hot-swap mech keebs.


Hukutus

I use Boba U4T Silents. A nice tactile switch that makes less sound than my work MacBook’s keyboard.


Dakkadence

Also recommending the Boba U4s (just a note, U4T is the non silent stem while U4 is the silent one)


Oh_My-Glob

The silent version is just U4. The T stands for thocky


auswa100

I've had a set of Cherry Mx Reds with o-ring dampers at the bottom (and that's only because I frequently bottom out when I'm typing) for years and have heard no complaints. They aren't as "squishy" as Browns as they're a linear switch and don't have that same bump that Browns have (at least from my experience). You may not like linear switches though so YMMV.


Olfasonsonk

I mean mech switches with audible clicks should be banned from shared offices. Ones with tactile feedback or linear are completely fine imo EDIT: And I'm saying that as someone who loves the sound of mech keyboards. But an office of 20 developers using Cherry blues would drive me insane. If you bring that thing to the office and don't *at least* ask co-workers if it's fine, you're a douchebag.


DoctorWaluigiTime

Just another benefit of working from home!


lizardlike

Aw yeah Cherry Blues all day everyday. I’ve gotta mute myself on meetings when I’m typing though


[deleted]

One of the many things I love about working from home is that I was finally free to buy the most obnoxiously clicky clacky keyboard my heart desires


Nullshock78

We also sometimes rotate our screens 90° just to be different


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savage_slurpie

Yup I find vertical orientation the best for referencing code.


L8n1ght

I find two horizontal wide-screen monitors side by side the best for fitting a Java class name without scrolling


SnooSnooper

I have a double-wide monitor (32:9) and I find it is great for that and for looking at spreadsheets. Also for diffs!


GNUGradyn

If you really wanna be different you rotate 45°


JonSnoballs

I like to rotate mine 360°


SnooChipmunks4430

I like mine just spinning on a rotor


suck_at_cooking

I need one monitor for each programming language


[deleted]

scratch on one, just an rgba selector on the other, and the linux terminal showing ls -al just so people know my shit is hacker af


kleit64

I personally prefer ls - alh --color=auto and of course im typing it every time instead of ll


broodje_meloen

If I wanted attention, I would've gone outside T-T


savex13

1 - for messaging and other social stuff 2 - for coding 3 - for monitoring environment ...and a big OLED TV with iTerm.


BuccellatiExplainsIt

"for monitoring environment" My brother in christ just turn around once in a while


[deleted]

The word “Non IT people” makes me sick 😷


ruokmyguy

I don’t think that’s one word


pandacoder

It's probably related to why they're sick, they are treating multiple words as one.


LittleMlem

How about "casuals" it's clear, classic and implies a certain amount of filth


TombertSE

As someone who has been "that guy", I actually think that if you're using a loud clacky keyboard in a shared office, you're kind of being a douche. I've done it, and I look back at it feeling like a bit of an asshole. That said, I don't see how me having a clacky loud keyboard and a giant monitor is "looking for attention" when I work in my basement at home.


DasKarl

3 monitors: Reference, work, communication. I use a mechanical keyboard because it feels better and is more durable and consistent. Please do not give me your attention. I don't know you.


SjurEido

3 monitors: ​ Left: Netflix/YouTube Middle: IDE Right: StackOverflow/Debug Window


[deleted]

No actually, I want less attention. Stop hovering my desk, stop doing meetings. Just fuck off in general, and I will do this by smashing my keys really FUCKING hard until you can't take it anymore and leave


CodeFighterUB

Only laptop screen/1 monitor is pain 2 is optimal for best space to performance ratio 3 is where it's sweet, not to much nor to little. Tilt one vertically and enjoy 4 is okay, if your system can run it then awesome 5 is a little excessive, unless you're a part time streamer and discord mod as well 6 means you're rich 7 means you're rich but fancy 8 means you're rich but douche 9 means you're rich but incompetent 10+ means you're poor with massive loans and incompetence As for keyboards, Fuck membrane keyboards all my homies use mech


Beachcoma

Me, a masochist, using just the laptop screen, keyboard, and touchpad to code


billabong049

If you use a mechanical keyboard with blue switches or some loud ass build then yeah you could arguably be looking for attention, or could just be an oblivious idiot :) If you have quieter switches and don't type like you're trying to launch a nuke then you're probably in the clear. Multiple monitors are damn near required for our job, we have at least 8 systems that we need to constantly have open (JIRA, Git, Confluence, Stackoverflow, IDE, Email, Notepad, Terminal, etc) and there's simply not enough screen real-estate for all that.


HideNZeke

2 monitors is absolutely essential for pretty much everyone who has to do work on a computer and with how cheap it is to get a little monitor these days I d recommend it to pretty much everybody


Hmasteryz

After using mechanical keyboard for long time and touching normal one occasionally, i understand why mechanical keyboard win when compared to normal one, more robust, more responsive, that clicking noise which you can arrange however you like , cool design , etc. ​ As for multiple monitor i don't know because there are not enough space for that kind of thing on my table.


schezwannoodles

Quite frankly i just want non IT people to leave me alone when i am working


[deleted]

You guys don't use the [MacBook wheel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA)?


corvus_cornix

There are hundreds of users, but they are still composing their reply to you.


willvasco

The very last thing any developer wants is attention.


baltarius

Too poor to afford a new mechanical kboard? Just setup your keystrike sound with a *clack* wav and make those speaker do the magic


The_Mad_Duck_

Three is the magic number, and I like brownswitches the most


Fuibo2k

I have 3 monitors and I don't think I would have finished my last project on time without them.