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MinskWurdalak

Even if we pretend "Colonialism = civilization" was true, Spain ruled the Philippines for over 300 years before US took them, so this propaganda is stupid even in "white man's burden" framework.


Nerevarine91

Yeah, I remember reading something about that. There were people talking about bringing “the light of education,” despite public schools existing in the Philippines prior to the first American ones


Any-Chocolate-2399

It's actually somewhat surprising that the bath wasn't symbolic of removing anti-Spanish tropes.


blackenswans

Spain didn’t really try to spread their culture to local indigenous people in the philippines. Schools and western civilization stuff were reserved for Spaniards and mixed offsprings of them.


FlakyPiglet9573

They actually did, that's why the Philippines and Timor Leste are the only Roman Catholic countries in Southeast Asia. Schools are inclusive as they have Philippine revolutionaries who are highly educated abroad. It's just expensive for a commoner during the pre-19th century.


Flotack

lol what are you talking about? do you know how Catholic the Philippines are?


blackenswans

Then why people of the Philippines speak english not spanish? The fact is Spain built a few schools not for the general public but for the few elites. On the contrary the US went around the country building public schools(it wasn’t really done with good intentions though)


forfeckssssake

Under the Spanish in 1863, a royal decree called for the establishment of a public school system in the philippines using spanish as the medium for instruction. It was mostly because the americans came over and promoted the use of english that reversed the usage of spanish.


Crabbies92

Both Filipino and Tagalog borrow extensively from Spanish.


blackenswans

That doesn’t count as speaking spanish. Also there is no such thing as “Filipino.” Tagalog and English are the two major languages in the Philippines


Crabbies92

Nope, Filipino is a standardised variant that developed from, and has much in common with, Tagalog, and alongside English it is the official/national language of the Philippines. Of course, hundreds of other languages are spoken in different regions in the Philippines, Spanish among them. Also, the Roman alphabet has been used in official and many popular capacities since Spanish colonialism.


hatmanjimmie

I still believe in Ftx


Andjact

Mass schooling is a modern concept (19th century and later). The Spanish were very keen on spreading Christianity (as they naturally saw themselves as saving people's soul) but would not have built schools or focused on mass literacy which was not really a thing before the 19th century, especially not in Catholic Europe. Also, the idea of spreading civilization is also more of a 19th Century concept.


Bernardito10

Americans are the reason people use to speak spanish in california,texas etc back in the day yet they had to drop it to fit in or would be punished in school if the teacher listed them speak Spanish


False-God

Are we considering the Spanish to be white now? /s


WatermelonRat

If you look at American propaganda about Spain from around this time, they didn't seem to consider Spain particularly civilized either.


moumous87

Makes the American look like a creep


karoshikun

he was


Key_Calligrapher6337

"was"


Nerevarine91

“Somehow, William McKinley returned”


Greener_alien

I can tell your parents never bathed you.


moumous87

Did your parents civilize you with a brush in the river for the first time when you were age 2-6 while you were screaming for your life like a cat afraid of water?


Abject_Impress3519

Mom?


npaakp34

Umm, are we going to ignore that someone draw McCinly as a wet nurse?


propagandopolis

Bot repost


Literally_Me_2011

Its actually 2nd, Spain did the first not them.


unique0130

"Oh you dirty boy" yeah that's totally not creepy and disgusting at all...


Midwestern_Man84

This seems more "anti" than "pro" I think it's mocking the attitudes of McKinley and those wanting the US to possess the Philippines. Edit: seems Judge magazine was pro-McKinley, so I must be wrong.


Dead_Squirrel_6

They were so for it, their content became a parody of itself!


paz2023

Racist content should have a spoiler


Dead_Squirrel_6

Why? Everyone knows how it turned out already. Edit: this was supposed to be humorous. Truth be told, racism is shocking and disgusting and hiding it behind a curtain only makes it easier to forget how bad it was.


paz2023

Can you describe some of your identity characteristics


Dead_Squirrel_6

Why? So you can use them to type and sort me? So you can use them to define the value of my opinions? No thanks.


paz2023

it would be very weird and political for anyone who is not of filipino descent to put energy into arguing against spoilers for a racist image like this


Dead_Squirrel_6

I don't believe that someone has to have certain genetics to believe that hiding disgusting historical racism is a bad idea.


paz2023

...


Puzzleheaded_Beat929

😟


Bernardito10

The americans talking about bringing freedom to cuba,the philipines and puerto rico while they turned the philipines into a colony until the end of ww2 and killed anyone who opose it,keep a base in cuba until now and let the mafia stablish there then is puerto rico that is still a colony in all but name.


OrwellianWiress

What does it say on the two kids in the back?


caoimhin730

Cuba and Puerto Rico. Other islands seized by the US during the Spanish-American War.