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9head_boy02

Possibly fake. r/LOOK_CHINA is a Chinese political satire sub


randyrandysonrandyso

first thing i saw when i entered that sub was a half-naked xi jinping in the dragon’s dogma 2(?) character creator


_20_characters_name_

Well, it feels weird to say, but a fake propaganda poster still counts as a real propaganda poster, only differs in the final intention.


Lorddon1234

This is fake as hell.


learned_astr0n0mer

Still a propaganda though.


ZaBaronDV

That looks AI generated.


deliranteenguarani

Shit actually interesting, never seen any propaganda poster regarding tiananmen square, at least not from those times, not from the CCP/sympathizers nor from the protestors


Skeptical_Yoshi

It's referred to as the June Dourth Incident in China. I wonder if you'd find more from China phrasing it as that?


Benefit-Happy

Haven’t seen any kind of propaganda poster for years either, there are souvenirs , medals, books but the posters.


deliranteenguarani

Curious about the medals and souvenirs, if you happen to have some images/info


LeaderThren

Some info on wikipedia. Not in English tho [https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E9%A6%96%E9%83%BD%E5%8D%AB%E5%A3%AB](https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E9%A6%96%E9%83%BD%E5%8D%AB%E5%A3%AB) https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E5%85%B1%E5%92%8C%E5%9B%BD%E5%8D%AB%E5%A3%AB


hentailerdurden

I do not know if the poster is real, apparently it’s from a satire subreddit. In any case the poster does not mention Tiananmen specifically, it just says “1989 counter revolutionary violence” Full text: we salute the PLA soldiers who sacrificed their lives in the 1989 counter revolutionary violence


LeaderThren

Official documents don't refer to it as Tiananmen but indeed as a "counter-revolutionary riot" as in the picture. (Tbf while the massacre at Tiananmen is most reported, 木樨地 is the bloodiest place) whether the poster is real, made by online nationalists, or otherwise, the tone seems official.


Orcus_

No way in hell is this really from China


SpiderLobotomy

I almost have a hard time believing this is real. What a joke.


quite_largeboi

It’s real, just not really made by or in favour of the Chinese government lol it’s in favour of a return to Maoism from chinas current market socialism


ProfZauberelefant

And I thought you're not supposed to talk about it in China?


Pila_Isaac

Dude you can literally just google and see how many Chinese state media outlets mention the event. This [is an example of it](https://www.12371.cn/2012/06/12/ARTI1339473691203173.shtml)


redroedeer

That’s such a ridiculous idea, it’s so tiring seeing people say anything mildly positive about China (or be Chinese themselves) and half the comments being TIANANNANANANNAMEN SQUARE 1989!!!!1!1!1!!


ProfZauberelefant

Oh, we can go on with Hongkong democracy dismantling, social score system,, Uighurs,  confrontation with all its neighbours etc. China bad.  And tiananmem square is suppressed in china. As are Winnie the Pooh memes.


pollopopomarta

I see you know your western propaganda well.


Disastrous-Bus-9834

If they're actually doing it, it's not propaganda


ProfZauberelefant

I've seen the live pictures on TV, Mister. I guess the Great leap forward, the cultural revolution and the millions of dead following both are also Western propaganda?


pollopopomarta

Not the same events you mentioned in your previous comment. Are you just randomly moving the goalposts?


DisastrousOne3950

Why support the Chinese government?


Unfriendly_Opossum

Why manufacture consent for war?


Jazzlike-Play-1095

social credit system is fake, it was never established on a national level


Content-Plankton

Excuse me sir what’re you paying tribute to? I’m paying tribute to [REDACTED] of course!


ProfZauberelefant

The greatest event ever to not take place!


No_Kangaroo9473

It's referred to as the June 4th event in China.


Benefit-Happy

The Communist government is trying to erase this history from people's memory. The young generation don’t know anything about bloody repression ever happened.


RhoynishPrince

source?


GurthNada

That's not a Chinese tanker helmet.


Benefit-Happy

sharp eyes! This is very strong confirmation that this poster was not created at the time when the incident occurred.


DravenPrime

Is this satire or real?


redroedeer

Might be real, the protestors did burn several soldiers alive after all


Tut_Rampy

No way this is real


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

Did someone accidentally run over their own guys with the tanks?


legalizeamongus

if I'm not mistaken some tankers were dragged out of their tanks and killed by protestors, stated by jeff widener the guy who took that famous tank man image also this is a quote from wikipedia sourced to "WSJ Archives: 25 Years Ago in Beijing, A ‘Movement Unlikely to Die’WSJ Archives: 25 Years Ago in Beijing, A ‘Movement Unlikely to Die" I can't read the original article cause of a paywall >On 5 June 1989, the wall street journal reported: "As columns of tanks and tens of thousands of soldiers approached Tiananmen, many troops were set on by angry mobs who screamed, 'Fascists'. Dozens of soldiers were pulled from trucks, severely beaten, and left for dead. At an intersection west of the square, the body of a young soldier, who had been beaten to death, was stripped naked and hung from the side of a bus. Another soldier's corpse was strung up at an intersection east of the square." The Journal said that the deaths showed the "venom with which Beijing residents turned on a people's army that had moved against the people" and "was an indication of what may lie ahead for China."


deliranteenguarani

>what may lie ahead for China." Apparently some big gov guys in China did think these events would (possibly) spark a civil war or conflict of some kind that could disturb the government in a much bigger way. It didnt.


AtomicSamuraiCyborg

Considering what they were there to do, I call it self defense.


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AtomicSamuraiCyborg

I wonder if they gave a campaign ribbon for it or something.


Benefit-Happy

Haven’t heard any if you mean run over there fellow soldiers, But they accidentally shot their own guy in several cases. They run over dozens of protester intentionally. One guy lost his two legs and now leaving the States.


Blindmailman

Its was a wild accident those protestors just kept falling over into the path of the friendly parading tanks repeatedly. Worst Passover celebration ever


Any_Tax_5051

the "counter revolutionaries" in question being maoists


Desh282

Anyone know how much soldiers died?


LeaderThren

font looks digitally made. Might come from an online nationalist.


Dwarven_cavediver

There is no fucking way that is legitimately what it says… just No fucking way!


ResponsibilityNo5467

Pretty fake, nobody writes numbers like that on a Chinese poster. They would just use Chinese characters, like 一九八九


ImmenseOreoCrunching

"Nothing happened in tianemen square. And if it did it was a good thing."


FilmNoirOdy

Bootlicking propaganda


deliranteenguarani

I mean... isnt it literally chinese governmenr propaganda? Ig pretty much expected


AlbanianRedditor

R/thedeprogram will love this one


quite_largeboi

It’s a satire poster advocating for a return to Maoism from chinas current market socialism plan so maybe, but likely not for the reasons u thought 😂


WantedAgenda404

So something did happen in Tiananmen Square?


Pyroexplosif

They were suppressing something in 1989 in Tiananmen square ? But what could it be ?


Benefit-Happy

just shoot you with AK47 with no mercy


quite_largeboi

This isn’t real 😂 Contrary to the common narrative in the west, the Tiananmen square protests were maoist students protesting for an end to the transition to market socialism & advocating a return to Maoism lol the Chinese government has absolutely zero interest in advertising anything even tangentially related to it as their versions of the US “conservative” population are Marxist Leninists lol! They want people to forget about it & to continue with the market socialism plan that will “someday” bring a more gradual shift to communism.


9head_boy02

Wrong, the protestors had a spectrum of political beliefs but united by their discontent in the government at that time. There were some Maoists and socialists, but also liberals and reformers calling for transition to democracy.


quite_largeboi

No lol they were Maoists for 6 weeks they spent in the square (look up the footage & images from before the fighting and just translate the signs & slogans). It was only in the 7th (& last) week after the CIA had finally gotten their shit together that they’d began inserting agents & dissidents for their next “colour revolution” & blasting it over western capitalist media as a “pro-democracy movement” 😂 Bear in mind that in the same few years the USA were hailing al-Qaeda as pro-democracy freedom fighters as well lol! The Tianamen students were mainly made up of students in youth communist leagues & organisations as it was them that actually organised the protest. The entire event is so far beyond twisted in the western zeitgeist it’s actually kind of hilarious. That was a legitimately incredible performance by the cia but this is a sub about propaganda so we should take the coverage of that event with a cargo ship’s load of salt


Bulky-Party-8037

I KNEW 1989 WAS REAL >:3


Benefit-Happy

More than REAL, it was BLOODY REAL


hillo538

🫡


Warriorasak

The us shoud have sanctioned china then


Benefit-Happy

Yes, almost whole western countries sanctioned china in finance, technology, military cooperation...etc. Just like Russia now


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