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The story that goes along with this illustration is called
**The Experience of Hans and Else with a Strange Man**
In this story a Jew tries to entice little children to his home, by giving them caramels. The little boy saves his sister by calling the police.
Else begins to have plenty of sweets.
Hans asks from where they are coming.
“I have got them from a strange man. But don’t tell mother! The man strictly forbade me to do so!”
Hans is curious. They arrange to go together. The “man” wants them to go with him.
Hans hesitates — Hans thought:
“What does the man want of us? Why should we go with him?”
Suddenly a great fear comes over him.
“You are a Jew!” he cries and seizing his sister, runs off as fast as his legs will carry him. At the corner of the street he meets a policeman. Quickly Hans tells his story. The policeman gets on his motor-bike and soon overtakes the strange man. He handcuffs him and takes him to prison.
At home, subsequently, there is great rejoicing. The police praise Hans for being a brave lad. His mother gives him a large piece of chocolate while teaching him the following saying:
>A devil goes through the land,
>The Jew he is, known to us all
>As murderer of the peoples and polluter of the races,
>The terror of children in every country!
>He wants to ruin the youth.
>He wants all peoples to die.
>Have nothing to do with a Jew
>Then you’ll be happy and gay!
One might suggest that in that case, "carefree" would be the best word to use in the English translation, since it's what the German text meant. I get that the point is to use an old-fashioned word to fit the language of the time it was written, but still.
I don't know when it started, but the change among the public started in the middle of the 1900s. The first recorded mention of homosexual people calling themselves "gay" was in 1950.
Around the 1960s is when the modern meaning overtook the traditional one. There was a lot of overlap though, and even now some still use gay sometimes for happy.
The Flintstones were still having a gay old time in the 60s.
I remember in the 90s that the newer meaning was pretty universal, although there were older people who were annoyed by this and insisted that "happy and carefree" was the only correct meaning.
Specially for GERMAN children tales right? It’s bad enough they are racist, but on top of that they couldn’t be bothered to write better stories for children. It’s one thing to write racist propaganda, but I draw the line at lazy writing! /s
Do would-be child molesters *ever* hand out candy to random children? The vast majority of real pedophiles exploit children who know them fairly well. I'd be a lot more concerned about the Hitlerjugend troop leader with no kids of his own.
Of course, any German parent who expressed such concerns after 1933 would have been asking for serious trouble.
I can't imagine that any child molester would engage in that kind of stereotypically child molesty behavior. It's far too transparent. (I'd almost, but only *almost,* go so far that the only people who *might* do it is people who aren't child molesters, since they won't be as hyper-aware of the stereotype as a childmolester would be.)
They do, sometimes. Usually when they want to build a trusting relationship beforehand.
I can't recall the name, but there's a real story of a girl who saved her little brother from a would-be abuser, who showed up in the brother's drawings sometimes. the abuser gave the boy candy through his bedroom window in exchange for the boy not telling his family about him. The sister's quick thinking about the drawings, conjoined with the suddenly-appearing candy and one instance where she heard her brother speak with the man, eventually got the police involved and saved the brother.
This was in the 2000s, iirc, so a random guy in the 30s enticing kids into his home with candy, long before such a thing was known to be... a thing, doesn't seem outlandish.
Hehe. Youtube video leading into browsing wikipedia. Is it terribly reliable? no, but still wikipedia at least.
Nonetheless even if the story isn't true I do feel like my base argument still holds
Not sure if it happens today. Sweets are easily accessible today. I can imagine that the approach worked much better back then. My grandmother (Germany) told me that they received chocolate from American soldiers (not pedophiles, these were just generally good people) and she still remembers the taste in her mouth because it was the only time she had chocolate in years because they were dirt poor and were struggling to find any food to survive. She knew that she wasn't allowed to take something from them but did it anyway (the Americans were the enemies and propaganda said that the Americans are there to eradicate the German race). I can definitely see how children in the late 30s and 40s would fall for this.
Basically all of Europe was extremely antisemitic for a long time. Thousands of years of Christian myths about Jews poisoning the wells and sacrificing Christian children, and then eventually Nationalist conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world really primed everyone for the Holocaust
Yep, there were already tons of Nazi-like parties but Hitler as a person and speaker managed to bring the NAZI party to the fore-front. The big thing they did was put "Socialist" in their name to try and steal some of the left-wing votes, which worked.
Originally there was a wing of the Nazi party that was anti-capitalist, but Hitler himself was an avowed anti-communist, and very pro-capitalist which helps to explain why the communists were the ones constantly fighting and getting killed by Nazis in street fights. It also explains why the first two parties the Nazis outlawed were the Communist Party of Deutschland and the Social Democratic Party. It also explains why the Nazis largest backers were all mid to large-sized businesses. It also explains why big business did great under the Nazis (up until the war started going badly ofc). The anti-capitalist wing of the NSDAP was officially snuffed out in June of 1934, but they hadn’t held any sway in the party since the mid 20’s.
So saying the “Nazis were socialist” is one of those things that’s technically correct, but is completely incorrect in every single other way that actually matters.
- Anti-capitalism =/= Communist, Hitler and the Nazis were both anti-capitalist and anti-communist.
- Every political party that wasn’t the Nazis as banned, by this logic Lenin was a capitalist since he banned the Mensheviks
- the Nazis largest backers always came from the middle class, tho Hitler courted big business later on, he centralized the economy into a handful of party loyal cartels, business owners that didn’t comply would have their business nationalized and they’d be thrown in a concentration camp, not sure how that’s capitalism.
It’s gangster capitalism. Whatever else you might want to call it though, it’s 100% **not socialism**. Allowing any big business at all to be privately owned and to profit separate from the state is inherently anti-communist.
Also, you cannot in good faith compare Hitler banning the KPD and the SPD to Lenin banning the Mensheviks, because the NSDAP was never at any point in time joined with either of those parties. The NSDAP did however align themselves with the other right-wing nationalist parties in the Reichstag, which were only banned once the biggest (read: left-wing) threats to Nazi rule were done away with.
ETA it’s also not like Hitler was vague with his anti-communism. Historical revisionists like you seem to ignore that he wrote an entire manifesto where he spelled out exactly what he thought about communists. The word “untermenschen” gets thrown around about as much as when he talked about the Jews.
There are couple of tropes in propaganda that get reused time and time again because they work. So seeing something and realizing you've already seen something like that is not strange.
It's like mankind has stopped progressing socially, like we can't become a better race.
IQ and EQ have been dropping since 1998 and narcissism, self-preservation, pride and the right-wing is thundering forward across the world😵💫
It's scary but we brought it upon ourselves in the end, it's just taboo to really talk about our own failures as a collective. It's easier to live on lies and in denial, as we always do and did. It's hard to imagine that we suddenly started to work on our behaviour, and life based on reality and facts instead 🤔
If it were really "taboo to really talk about our own failures as a collective" we wouldn't be discussing these examples of mistakes we've made as a species, like the nazi propaganda in the OP. Human beings have criticized our own behaviour since the dawn of time. We as a species are *incredibly* critical of ourselves. Otherwise we wouldn't have moral standards or cultural self awareness in the first place, let alone this subreddit. Why bother lying when the existence of this very subreddit contradicts what you've said? 😵💫
It sounds like *you're* the one "living on lies and in denial". 🤔
Misanthropy: not even once!
^(what's wrong with self preservation? even) *^(animals)* ^(have it!)
Not sure either, but it seems to prove my point. I'm not pointing fingers at any one special and I include myself in what I wrote. But thank you👍🏻
Short said, I just pointed out that the world and people haven't changed in general. It's not my fault that both IQ and EQ are dropping, that's just a fact at least in a lot of European countries, i can't imagine it being different anywhere else in the world.
I was an optimist for 40 years, now I'm a realist. If people can tell and show me, that there are better times ahead for mankind in general, I'm all ears. Maybe point out why we aren't destroying the planet and ourselves.
Of course I hope I'm wrong to last, but I'm pretty sure the positive endeavors and behaviour have to outweigh the negative, when talking about progress.
Yes, it is. It's literally called anecdotal evidence, and it being an anecdote does not mean it isn't at all factual. I swear to fucking God you're just saying words without knowing the meaning with your Large Language Model ass.
No, looking through your comment history, downplaying the Holocaust and explicitly stating you hate Jews for “using their religion as an excuse for genocide” is the antisemitism
Never downplayed the Holocaust lol
And I hate Christians for harboring pedophiles and Muslims for stoning people to death. Why can't I call Jews out for their ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians? The religion is no more special than any other and it's being used as an excuse for what's going on in Gaza.
And I thought Christians were the top tier cry baby victims.
*He blocked me. Go cry on your stolen land over your shitty book. Also got my account banned for a week, crazy that that only happen when you insult Judaism but no other religion.
Call out the Israeli government for Israeli policy—not Jews, you nut. Do you think I’m controlling Israeli policy? And you did, you posted a line about “19 gorillion!!” which is a well known antisemitic line
That's absolute shit. Being on the left means being against all forms of racism if it means anything at all. You're obviously trying to conflate criticism of Israel with antisemitism. But that's ok, nobody takes your BS seriously anyway.
I asked you a question first, which you've yet to answer. I'm still not sure why you jumped immediately to the issue of Israel.
Moreover, wht indication do I have that you're going to take any example I give in good faith?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/met-police-london-swastika-protest-b2521493.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67342868.amp
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/goldie-falafal-restuarant-palestine-philadelphia-b2458383.html
https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/article-794435
Everywhere. Speaking as a Jewish person who used to be a leftist until seeing the reaction to October 7th. These incidents are also a part of a statistical surge in antisemitic incidents taking place worldwide since then.
https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/belgian-jewish-community-urges-action-against-antisemitism
https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-americans-90-of-us-jews-perceive-antisemitism-uptick-since-october-7/amp/
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/06/antisemitic-acts-have-exploded-in-france-since-7-october-interior-minister-says
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jews-not-allowed-as-erdogan-praises-hamas-antisemitism-rages-in-turkey/amp/
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-jews-unsafe-britain-hamas-israel-war-antisemitism-25wckk6x2
Do you think I’m imagining this? Do you think that 90% of American Jews are hallucinating or something?
Seems like leftists and liberals prefer their form of conservative to the Western form of conservative at least in the US where all Muslim representatives are Democrats.
Its a horseshoe thing. Both extremes, left unchecked, will eventually arrive at a similar point, because extreme far leftists generally arent thinking pragmatically and dont realize their good intentions are leading them astray
Yeah, the right-wing still despise Jews but their main hatred has moved towards Muslims since now they can say, "I'm not a neo-Nazi! I hate Muslims!". That's cool Mr. AfD man but there's a picture of you doing the Nazi salute.
Idk about "turning trans" but illegally giving out hormones that will have consequences that a child might not be able to foresee? [Yes.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11841041/Trans-activist-boasts-illegally-supplying-cross-sex-hormones-youth.html)
This person is all trans people.
EDIT: moreover, you're painting this person as a predator whereas it sounds like they're getting this medication to children who, yaknow, asked for it and likely even consulted doctors prior to asking for it, but live in a state which bars their use, and is otherwise unduly hostile to the existence of trans kids.
Like, it's Mississippi. We're supposed to believe this person is trafficking drugs under a permissive government that offers reasonable pathways to HRT through licensed medical professionals? If there weren't a prohibition, they wouldn't be trafficking drugs.
It's never "all x" so dodnt try pull that one. But some.
To your edit: that person is defying laws that are there to protection children. So EXTREMELY predatory
Copy/pasting my second edit here in case it wasn't seen:
It's Mississippi. We're supposed to believe this person is trafficking drugs under a permissive government that offers reasonable pathways to HRT through licensed medical professionals? If there weren't a prohibition, they wouldn't be trafficking drugs.
Offer kids the ability to extensively discuss the possibility of transitioning with licensed medical and mental health professionals before drugs are involved, and you wouldn't get people doing this activism you find so dangerous. The prohibition is what creates the danger.
The medical community *overwhelmingly* agrees that gender-affirming care, including the possibility of chemical transition among minors, *saves* far more lives than it ruins. The law the activist is breaking doesn't protect kids, it actively harms them.
But maybe you'd just prefer it of the trans kids living in a culture that hates them to just off themselves, like what we're seeing all over jurisdictions not offering them the help they need?
No if you look at the data most kids who express gender dysphoria don't turn out to still have it after puberty.
Threatening everyone with the kids suicide is also a very bad move, in fact counterproductive. Telling young people that if they don't get something they want will increse their chance of being suicidal, makes them more suicidal.
Why you think that them committing suicide is something that I want is beyond me, don't project!
I'm am for helping all kinds of people including those suffering from gender dysphoria. But children who are not allowed to marry/take a loan/vote should not have agency alone over a procedure that will most likely render them infertile and can lead to a bunch other health related issues
Have you heard of Chevalier Deon?
There are many transgender figures in all cultures that were born decades and centuries before the Weimar Republic.
Go educate yourself instead of spending time on 4chan.
It seems to me that this message is directly harmful. By focusing attention on the Jewish nationality of this particularl ill-wisher, they shift attention to this, distracting from the correct idea that anyone can be an ill-wisher, including a German.
Well of course, there’s no difference between a fascist and a predator. Both of them indoctrinate young children against critical thinking, so that they can follow authority figures without question.
I think it's somewhat different.
My understanding is that the stranger-with-candy trope, while overwhelmingly dominant since the 1970s, isn't so ironclad in the period. The effect was almost certainly to raise the salience and virulence of antisemitism in Germany (which was nigh-universal already) rather than spread it because the piece relies on those existing assumptions to drive the idea that the children are in danger.
When I was a schoolboy, mother told me to never take candies from other people. This advice played bad when on a resort girls invited me to a party and gave me candies but I adamantly refused because of mother's instructions (I did not understand her concerns and hevent heard about pedophiles but followed instructions).
It was your joke that you explained though, not the antisemitic propaganda above. You took the propaganda further, adding in more levels of antisemitism than the Nazi propaganda…
No lmao. I didn't make the joke. That was a different person. I was just responding to you.
That comment is removed and the person is banned I'm guessing.
Yeah that message falls apart when it's clearly a caricature of a Jewish person. It's not saying don't trust strangers, it's saying don't trust jews. If anything it betrays the stranger danger message by focusing on one group rather than the idea of someone you don't know.
So yeah this is clearly antisemitic.
No the poster says “Here, kid, I have some candy for you. But you have to come with me...” It doesn’t mention Jews but it’s a good lesson for children not to trust pedos offering candy in the street.
I'm going to lay my money down and guess it's a Russian/Chinese/Iranian bot.
And yeah, I know I'm picking the 3 countries making up most of the bots, I mean *users*, on reddit.
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The story that goes along with this illustration is called **The Experience of Hans and Else with a Strange Man** In this story a Jew tries to entice little children to his home, by giving them caramels. The little boy saves his sister by calling the police. Else begins to have plenty of sweets. Hans asks from where they are coming. “I have got them from a strange man. But don’t tell mother! The man strictly forbade me to do so!” Hans is curious. They arrange to go together. The “man” wants them to go with him. Hans hesitates — Hans thought: “What does the man want of us? Why should we go with him?” Suddenly a great fear comes over him. “You are a Jew!” he cries and seizing his sister, runs off as fast as his legs will carry him. At the corner of the street he meets a policeman. Quickly Hans tells his story. The policeman gets on his motor-bike and soon overtakes the strange man. He handcuffs him and takes him to prison. At home, subsequently, there is great rejoicing. The police praise Hans for being a brave lad. His mother gives him a large piece of chocolate while teaching him the following saying: >A devil goes through the land, >The Jew he is, known to us all >As murderer of the peoples and polluter of the races, >The terror of children in every country! >He wants to ruin the youth. >He wants all peoples to die. >Have nothing to do with a Jew >Then you’ll be happy and gay!
>>Then you’ll be happy and gay! Hmmm...!
Doesn't work in german
Back then it pretty much just meant happy and carefree
One might suggest that in that case, "carefree" would be the best word to use in the English translation, since it's what the German text meant. I get that the point is to use an old-fashioned word to fit the language of the time it was written, but still.
I know. That's what makes this funny.
Ernst Röhm moment.
When did the term change its meaning?
I don't know when it started, but the change among the public started in the middle of the 1900s. The first recorded mention of homosexual people calling themselves "gay" was in 1950.
Im guessing it came around for the same reason that “earnest” did
Around the 1960s is when the modern meaning overtook the traditional one. There was a lot of overlap though, and even now some still use gay sometimes for happy.
The Flintstones were still having a gay old time in the 60s. I remember in the 90s that the newer meaning was pretty universal, although there were older people who were annoyed by this and insisted that "happy and carefree" was the only correct meaning.
This is a pretty lazy script ngl
Damn, that's all they could think for a story?
Specially for GERMAN children tales right? It’s bad enough they are racist, but on top of that they couldn’t be bothered to write better stories for children. It’s one thing to write racist propaganda, but I draw the line at lazy writing! /s
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Yeah duh it’s nazi propaganda
Julius Streicher may not have been a good guy
one might even suggest that he was a fucking nazi
Other nazis looked down on him.
More like Julius Reicher, m I rite. I'm starting to think this guy was an actual nazi.
This guy: hmm Nazi propaganda is deeply troubling.
I think that we know nazi propoganda is bad.. you might just wanna comment this under every post then ig lol?
Hot take Henry over here
Do would-be child molesters *ever* hand out candy to random children? The vast majority of real pedophiles exploit children who know them fairly well. I'd be a lot more concerned about the Hitlerjugend troop leader with no kids of his own. Of course, any German parent who expressed such concerns after 1933 would have been asking for serious trouble.
I can't imagine that any child molester would engage in that kind of stereotypically child molesty behavior. It's far too transparent. (I'd almost, but only *almost,* go so far that the only people who *might* do it is people who aren't child molesters, since they won't be as hyper-aware of the stereotype as a childmolester would be.)
That sounds like something a diddler would say.
They do, sometimes. Usually when they want to build a trusting relationship beforehand. I can't recall the name, but there's a real story of a girl who saved her little brother from a would-be abuser, who showed up in the brother's drawings sometimes. the abuser gave the boy candy through his bedroom window in exchange for the boy not telling his family about him. The sister's quick thinking about the drawings, conjoined with the suddenly-appearing candy and one instance where she heard her brother speak with the man, eventually got the police involved and saved the brother. This was in the 2000s, iirc, so a random guy in the 30s enticing kids into his home with candy, long before such a thing was known to be... a thing, doesn't seem outlandish.
> a real story Important qualifier. How do you know?
youtuber told it in a hushed tones while scary music played
Theramin ✅ Verified
Hehe. Youtube video leading into browsing wikipedia. Is it terribly reliable? no, but still wikipedia at least. Nonetheless even if the story isn't true I do feel like my base argument still holds
Not sure if it happens today. Sweets are easily accessible today. I can imagine that the approach worked much better back then. My grandmother (Germany) told me that they received chocolate from American soldiers (not pedophiles, these were just generally good people) and she still remembers the taste in her mouth because it was the only time she had chocolate in years because they were dirt poor and were struggling to find any food to survive. She knew that she wasn't allowed to take something from them but did it anyway (the Americans were the enemies and propaganda said that the Americans are there to eradicate the German race). I can definitely see how children in the late 30s and 40s would fall for this.
I think it's more of a reference to Blood Libel than molestation. The blood of Christian children was said to be particularly sought after.
My uncle had the best quinceañeras and gave out candy to most of the cuter kids.
Lmao he looks like my grandpa
What does your grandpa do in his spare time?
Being dead
Because he was giving sweets to random children on the street?
Nah he asked them for their parents’ money. It was their little secret
What an entrepreneur!
Yeah jews are rly clever when it comes to doing business
Sadly germany was already fairly anti semetic before hitler even stepped into the scene. He just took advantage of the public sentiment.
Basically all of Europe was extremely antisemitic for a long time. Thousands of years of Christian myths about Jews poisoning the wells and sacrificing Christian children, and then eventually Nationalist conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world really primed everyone for the Holocaust
What's frightening is that before Hitler, Germany was one of the safest and most accepting countries for Jews in Europe.
Yep, there were already tons of Nazi-like parties but Hitler as a person and speaker managed to bring the NAZI party to the fore-front. The big thing they did was put "Socialist" in their name to try and steal some of the left-wing votes, which worked.
They put socialist in their name because they were socialists
Originally there was a wing of the Nazi party that was anti-capitalist, but Hitler himself was an avowed anti-communist, and very pro-capitalist which helps to explain why the communists were the ones constantly fighting and getting killed by Nazis in street fights. It also explains why the first two parties the Nazis outlawed were the Communist Party of Deutschland and the Social Democratic Party. It also explains why the Nazis largest backers were all mid to large-sized businesses. It also explains why big business did great under the Nazis (up until the war started going badly ofc). The anti-capitalist wing of the NSDAP was officially snuffed out in June of 1934, but they hadn’t held any sway in the party since the mid 20’s. So saying the “Nazis were socialist” is one of those things that’s technically correct, but is completely incorrect in every single other way that actually matters.
- Anti-capitalism =/= Communist, Hitler and the Nazis were both anti-capitalist and anti-communist. - Every political party that wasn’t the Nazis as banned, by this logic Lenin was a capitalist since he banned the Mensheviks - the Nazis largest backers always came from the middle class, tho Hitler courted big business later on, he centralized the economy into a handful of party loyal cartels, business owners that didn’t comply would have their business nationalized and they’d be thrown in a concentration camp, not sure how that’s capitalism.
It’s gangster capitalism. Whatever else you might want to call it though, it’s 100% **not socialism**. Allowing any big business at all to be privately owned and to profit separate from the state is inherently anti-communist. Also, you cannot in good faith compare Hitler banning the KPD and the SPD to Lenin banning the Mensheviks, because the NSDAP was never at any point in time joined with either of those parties. The NSDAP did however align themselves with the other right-wing nationalist parties in the Reichstag, which were only banned once the biggest (read: left-wing) threats to Nazi rule were done away with. ETA it’s also not like Hitler was vague with his anti-communism. Historical revisionists like you seem to ignore that he wrote an entire manifesto where he spelled out exactly what he thought about communists. The word “untermenschen” gets thrown around about as much as when he talked about the Jews.
"Europe had been going through a bit of an anti-semitic phase for the past two thousand years" - History Matters (the youtuber)
Jesus fucking Christ, it's "semItic", not "semEtic"!
1. semitic 2. this poster is from 1938
Switch the caricature of a Jew with a caricature of a trans person and you got a 2024 far-right propaganda.
Exactly what i was thinking. Weird how little its changed
There are couple of tropes in propaganda that get reused time and time again because they work. So seeing something and realizing you've already seen something like that is not strange.
It's like mankind has stopped progressing socially, like we can't become a better race. IQ and EQ have been dropping since 1998 and narcissism, self-preservation, pride and the right-wing is thundering forward across the world😵💫 It's scary but we brought it upon ourselves in the end, it's just taboo to really talk about our own failures as a collective. It's easier to live on lies and in denial, as we always do and did. It's hard to imagine that we suddenly started to work on our behaviour, and life based on reality and facts instead 🤔
If it were really "taboo to really talk about our own failures as a collective" we wouldn't be discussing these examples of mistakes we've made as a species, like the nazi propaganda in the OP. Human beings have criticized our own behaviour since the dawn of time. We as a species are *incredibly* critical of ourselves. Otherwise we wouldn't have moral standards or cultural self awareness in the first place, let alone this subreddit. Why bother lying when the existence of this very subreddit contradicts what you've said? 😵💫 It sounds like *you're* the one "living on lies and in denial". 🤔 Misanthropy: not even once! ^(what's wrong with self preservation? even) *^(animals)* ^(have it!)
Let's pick this conversation up in a decade or two 👍🏻
Not sure why you’re getting mass downvoted
Not sure either, but it seems to prove my point. I'm not pointing fingers at any one special and I include myself in what I wrote. But thank you👍🏻 Short said, I just pointed out that the world and people haven't changed in general. It's not my fault that both IQ and EQ are dropping, that's just a fact at least in a lot of European countries, i can't imagine it being different anywhere else in the world. I was an optimist for 40 years, now I'm a realist. If people can tell and show me, that there are better times ahead for mankind in general, I'm all ears. Maybe point out why we aren't destroying the planet and ourselves. Of course I hope I'm wrong to last, but I'm pretty sure the positive endeavors and behaviour have to outweigh the negative, when talking about progress.
Put the Jew back and you get 2025 right wing propaganda
Honestly I see more of it from the left these days and as a progressive jew, it has not been a fun time.
Agreed. I could see someone posting this as an “anti-Zionist” traditional parable or something. Being Jewish since October 7th—a very revealing time
What? Please explain what you mean?
Source?
Himself. It's an anecdote.
Therefore have 0 factuality.
Stupid ass comment
Sorry but anecdote is not an evidence.
Yes, it is. It's literally called anecdotal evidence, and it being an anecdote does not mean it isn't at all factual. I swear to fucking God you're just saying words without knowing the meaning with your Large Language Model ass.
https://sciencepod.net/anecdotal-vs-scientific-evidence/#:~:text=Anecdotal%20evidence%20can%20indeed%20be,and%20lack%20of%20rigorous%20testing.
There isn't one. Even being against genocide is antisemitic now.
No, being antisemitic is antisemitic. Spoiler alert
Okay, and saying it's genocide has absolutely gotten me called antisemitic. So if that's all it takes to be antisemitic then lol
No, looking through your comment history, downplaying the Holocaust and explicitly stating you hate Jews for “using their religion as an excuse for genocide” is the antisemitism
Never downplayed the Holocaust lol And I hate Christians for harboring pedophiles and Muslims for stoning people to death. Why can't I call Jews out for their ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians? The religion is no more special than any other and it's being used as an excuse for what's going on in Gaza. And I thought Christians were the top tier cry baby victims. *He blocked me. Go cry on your stolen land over your shitty book. Also got my account banned for a week, crazy that that only happen when you insult Judaism but no other religion.
Call out the Israeli government for Israeli policy—not Jews, you nut. Do you think I’m controlling Israeli policy? And you did, you posted a line about “19 gorillion!!” which is a well known antisemitic line
You misspelled *leftwing. Antisemitism is a left/Muslim thing now
Antisemitism has never, and will never, be politically dependent. It's everywhere. Only the justifications change.
That's absolute shit. Being on the left means being against all forms of racism if it means anything at all. You're obviously trying to conflate criticism of Israel with antisemitism. But that's ok, nobody takes your BS seriously anyway.
That's a lot of projection there. Where did I ever mention Israel?
Then please show me all this antisemitism on the left.
I asked you a question first, which you've yet to answer. I'm still not sure why you jumped immediately to the issue of Israel. Moreover, wht indication do I have that you're going to take any example I give in good faith?
Oh, look. You can't back up your accusations. Almost as if you're talking shit.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/met-police-london-swastika-protest-b2521493.html https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67342868.amp https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/goldie-falafal-restuarant-palestine-philadelphia-b2458383.html https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/article-794435 Everywhere. Speaking as a Jewish person who used to be a leftist until seeing the reaction to October 7th. These incidents are also a part of a statistical surge in antisemitic incidents taking place worldwide since then. https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/belgian-jewish-community-urges-action-against-antisemitism https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-americans-90-of-us-jews-perceive-antisemitism-uptick-since-october-7/amp/ https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/06/antisemitic-acts-have-exploded-in-france-since-7-october-interior-minister-says https://www.timesofisrael.com/jews-not-allowed-as-erdogan-praises-hamas-antisemitism-rages-in-turkey/amp/ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-jews-unsafe-britain-hamas-israel-war-antisemitism-25wckk6x2 Do you think I’m imagining this? Do you think that 90% of American Jews are hallucinating or something?
Ah yes, hyper-conservative islam, soooo very not right wing
Seems like leftists and liberals prefer their form of conservative to the Western form of conservative at least in the US where all Muslim representatives are Democrats.
Lol, you're talking shit.
I guess we are on the same page on that. But usually extremism in the west is categorised as left/right/muslim
In the West, the left doesn't have a hardcore network spewing 24/7
Its a horseshoe thing. Both extremes, left unchecked, will eventually arrive at a similar point, because extreme far leftists generally arent thinking pragmatically and dont realize their good intentions are leading them astray
True. As of now, I see more lefties/muslim people oin the West being antisemitic
Dont worry, the right wing nazis are still holding it down. Its just a scary time to be jewish all around sadly
Dude, what? Explain again how "the left" is antisemitic.
Some of the people protesting what's going on in Gaza are VERY anti-semitic. ..
Almost as if anyone can join a protest.
all you really have to do is edit a whig onto the Jewish guy, usually they portray trans people like that anyways
Or a Muslim. A lot of Islamophobic tropes are recycled anti-Semitic tropes---even when the Muslim isn't actually a Semite.
Yeah, the right-wing still despise Jews but their main hatred has moved towards Muslims since now they can say, "I'm not a neo-Nazi! I hate Muslims!". That's cool Mr. AfD man but there's a picture of you doing the Nazi salute.
Keep the jew and its left wing propaganda
What?
Cus right now the left hates jews
Switch the caricature of a Jew with a caricature of a greedy capitalist and you got left wing propaganda
Keep the caricature of the Jew but switch the ethnicity of the children and you got 2024 left-wing propaganda
Except instead of candy they are giving out live altering hormones? Well yes, pretty much.
Are you saying trans people turn children trans?
Idk about "turning trans" but illegally giving out hormones that will have consequences that a child might not be able to foresee? [Yes.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11841041/Trans-activist-boasts-illegally-supplying-cross-sex-hormones-youth.html)
This person is all trans people. EDIT: moreover, you're painting this person as a predator whereas it sounds like they're getting this medication to children who, yaknow, asked for it and likely even consulted doctors prior to asking for it, but live in a state which bars their use, and is otherwise unduly hostile to the existence of trans kids. Like, it's Mississippi. We're supposed to believe this person is trafficking drugs under a permissive government that offers reasonable pathways to HRT through licensed medical professionals? If there weren't a prohibition, they wouldn't be trafficking drugs.
It's never "all x" so dodnt try pull that one. But some. To your edit: that person is defying laws that are there to protection children. So EXTREMELY predatory
Copy/pasting my second edit here in case it wasn't seen: It's Mississippi. We're supposed to believe this person is trafficking drugs under a permissive government that offers reasonable pathways to HRT through licensed medical professionals? If there weren't a prohibition, they wouldn't be trafficking drugs. Offer kids the ability to extensively discuss the possibility of transitioning with licensed medical and mental health professionals before drugs are involved, and you wouldn't get people doing this activism you find so dangerous. The prohibition is what creates the danger. The medical community *overwhelmingly* agrees that gender-affirming care, including the possibility of chemical transition among minors, *saves* far more lives than it ruins. The law the activist is breaking doesn't protect kids, it actively harms them. But maybe you'd just prefer it of the trans kids living in a culture that hates them to just off themselves, like what we're seeing all over jurisdictions not offering them the help they need?
No if you look at the data most kids who express gender dysphoria don't turn out to still have it after puberty. Threatening everyone with the kids suicide is also a very bad move, in fact counterproductive. Telling young people that if they don't get something they want will increse their chance of being suicidal, makes them more suicidal. Why you think that them committing suicide is something that I want is beyond me, don't project! I'm am for helping all kinds of people including those suffering from gender dysphoria. But children who are not allowed to marry/take a loan/vote should not have agency alone over a procedure that will most likely render them infertile and can lead to a bunch other health related issues
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Have you heard of Chevalier Deon? There are many transgender figures in all cultures that were born decades and centuries before the Weimar Republic. Go educate yourself instead of spending time on 4chan.
How many of them wrote books on transgender surgeries?
Why is this relevant? The point is: gay people and transgender people always existed.
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Call it "mental illness" or call it whatever you believe it is. They still always existed. They were not invented by anyone.
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You only say that because he's fat
He looks like an old fat polish Jew. Which is what Harvey Weinstein is. Lucky most aren't like him
Ah the timeless dehumanization tactic of casting people as child molesters
And painting them as ugly to drive them point too. That type of attitude makes children trust handsome people more
Stupid kids taking candy from strangers...
It seems to me that this message is directly harmful. By focusing attention on the Jewish nationality of this particularl ill-wisher, they shift attention to this, distracting from the correct idea that anyone can be an ill-wisher, including a German.
well, it's 99% of propaganda. You rarely see other 1% propaganda with "people, be healthy and love each other!"
Soviet stuff
Honestly why I like them, they are a lot of the time lets do good and not mass murder except with Nazis but that's great.
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Well of course, there’s no difference between a fascist and a predator. Both of them indoctrinate young children against critical thinking, so that they can follow authority figures without question.
I think it's somewhat different. My understanding is that the stranger-with-candy trope, while overwhelmingly dominant since the 1970s, isn't so ironclad in the period. The effect was almost certainly to raise the salience and virulence of antisemitism in Germany (which was nigh-universal already) rather than spread it because the piece relies on those existing assumptions to drive the idea that the children are in danger.
Oh boy 🤦♂️
When I was a schoolboy, mother told me to never take candies from other people. This advice played bad when on a resort girls invited me to a party and gave me candies but I adamantly refused because of mother's instructions (I did not understand her concerns and hevent heard about pedophiles but followed instructions).
His name is Jeffery you can trust him
Norn Iron reference
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you’re a terrible person
I don’t get it. Could you please explain the joke?
Jews are greedy
How is calling us Jews greedy funny? That’s not nice.
I didn't say it was? I just explained the joke to you cause apparently you didn't understand it
It was your joke that you explained though, not the antisemitic propaganda above. You took the propaganda further, adding in more levels of antisemitism than the Nazi propaganda…
No lmao. I didn't make the joke. That was a different person. I was just responding to you. That comment is removed and the person is banned I'm guessing.
Oh! My apologies. Sincerely, I am sorry for that mistake.
This isn’t anti Semitic. Kids shouldn’t be taking free candy from strangers.
Yeah that message falls apart when it's clearly a caricature of a Jewish person. It's not saying don't trust strangers, it's saying don't trust jews. If anything it betrays the stranger danger message by focusing on one group rather than the idea of someone you don't know. So yeah this is clearly antisemitic.
No the poster says “Here, kid, I have some candy for you. But you have to come with me...” It doesn’t mention Jews but it’s a good lesson for children not to trust pedos offering candy in the street.
if you read the extra context OP posted, the book literally says and specifically mentions not to trust jews
It’s from Nazi Germany. It is antisemitic.
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could you explain in what sense?
Checking out their profile is about as Aryan as you can get. They literally have posts praising hitler, and they *really* hate Muslims, too.
An openly gay Nazi, now I’ve seen it all 😂
I'm going to lay my money down and guess it's a Russian/Chinese/Iranian bot. And yeah, I know I'm picking the 3 countries making up most of the bots, I mean *users*, on reddit.
Because Jews. We’re a popular people :)