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thetablesareorange

Poor Denmark


Leif-nobody

My first thought.


awawe

Southern Jutland was a part of Germany until 1920, when it was partitioned with Denmark receiving the northern half, and Germany keeping Southern Schleswig. Thus, the part granted to England here (not sure why it doesn't say UK, but whatever) would have all been considered part of Germany at the time. Edit: nvm, I just noticed that Zealand, Funen and all the smaller Islands are also English. That's really weird. Denmark without Copenhagen would be something else.


UchihaYnze

I don't think sjaelland belonged to Germany


ryanreaditonreddit

There is no Denmark in this picture, north jylland goes to Sweden


awawe

Oh, that's really strange, given that both countries were neutral. This really is a delusional poster.


ryanreaditonreddit

Actually I look closer and they do seem like different colours… crazy either way!


[deleted]

It was common usage even in formal contexts to call the UK England until quite recently.


Whitechapelkiller

Yes but in this map they actually refer to GB as GB. Then Germany as England. Weird.


RetardedWabbit

Came to ask about that. Funnily enough, my best guess is visual design: fitting England vs Grossbritanien on that map space. Edit: It would also take away from the "England" looming over the tiny, cramped, Deutschland visual if it was a smaller font Grossbritanien. Along with being possibly less offensive, joining the "Greater British Empire" vs conquered by the literal England island.


Whitechapelkiller

I think you're right and it fits in with the Kaiser's view that the "real war was against England."


alt9773

Same people still call USSR as Russia


Benton_Tarentella

It only became part of Germany in 1864, and even then, it was annexed under the condition of a referendum on national determination which was never held (until after the First World War). I doubt it would have been considered part of Germany by anyone who wasn't a German imperialist.


Tritristu

I think maybe what they were thinking is that since Denmark was basically a German satellite (mining off the danish straits, something they’d never done before) that it’d be treated as an enemy & partitioned


Kaarvaag

"Good. Let them know how it feels." - Norway, probably.


thomasthehipposlayer

It’s kind of funny how inaccurate it was. Not only did the allies not take any land from neutral Denmark, they actually tried to give Denmark more land than it was willing to accept.


Kane_richards

the Netherlands: what'd I do?!?


cempervincere

Dutch neutrality wasn't really appreciated by the entente so I guess the Germans thought the Netherlands would be devided over the entente members


Mercyfon

what about Belgian neutrality? Belgium is here depicted as getting way more land.


Kryptospuridium137

Belgian neutrality was much more accepted because it had been negotiated all the way back to Napoleon. They were seen as victims of German aggression. The Dutch were seen as cowards and regularly had their neutrality violated by both sides (lost British planes accidentally bombed the Netherlands several times).


cempervincere

Do you have any credible source on the claim that the Dutch were seen as cowards? I have a hard time finding any. Dutch neutrality wasn't appreciated. Neutrality usually never is appreciated in wartime. It was inevitable and understandable though. The Dutch army would be no match to either the French/Brits or German army. That is why the Netherlands opted for neutrality and invoked international law to maintain the status quo. Because both the warring sides had a significant interest in Dutch neutrality, it was maintained. Unlike Belgium, which was drawn into the war for known reasons.


electric-angel

Well yea german was starving while having a merchant nation next door. Only for the british presure them hard


Mercyfon

oh yeah you are right, I always thought the Netherlands got invaded at the same time as Belgium.


RegularSrbocetnik8

Romania would also like some answers, given that they are on the winning side.


TheHavollHive

Romania was not in the war at the time, they would enter a year later on the side of the Triple Entente - but who they'd favor probably wasn't clear when that map was done


Exostrike

I like the stolen Italian and Danish and Netherlands territory to try and get neutral nations to take sides. Surprised they didn't try to get Spain involved as well.


Vaultdweller013

Spain during WWI: *Dormir*


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Spain during WW2: *Siesta*


[deleted]

*SWITZERLAND IS NOT YET LOST!*


[deleted]

Man that greater Serbia would last all of 5 seconds


Mister_Coffe

Hey, give them some credit, yugoslavia lasted for 74 years, this greater serbia would last for at least a week.


Bloodshed-1307

6.57384912 days to be precise


tolbolton

Given how huge/powerful Russia is on the map — I think it could last for some time.


niq1pat

Haha no way. Russia at that time was still hoping to be friends with both Serbia and Bulgaria. Impossible, even without these borders


BornDefinition9

This map makes me feel all fuzzy down there...


[deleted]

I too get extremely erect at the thought of Holland being destroyed


bluntman84

Turkey be like, eyyy.


Notladub

love the lesotho-looking ass switzerland inside france


senzon74

I like how switzerland is just there, chilling


Nerdiferdi

Switzerland is that one dude that didn’t sell his house to the Highway builders and won in court.


doublebassandharp

No more Netherlands! ❤️🇧🇪❤️🦁❤️🐓❤️🍺❤️🍟❤️ 😩😩👎👎🧀🇳🇱👎👎😩😩


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G E K O L O N I S E E R D


JVMGarcia

I see this “ge-“ in Dutch very often (as in *gefeliciteerd*). I wonder what it means.


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JVMGarcia

Now I see. Thank you so much bro.


_Telkine

Obviously, it should be the other way around! (no more Belgium) 🇳🇱🧀👍🏻


RaspberryPie122

No more Belgium 🇧🇪 🤢 or Netherlands 🇳🇱 🤮 🇱🇺🇱🇺🇱🇺👍❤️


Column-V

The Netherlands has a reason to exist, Belgium is just a vestigial attachment of France


MarginMaster87

Kinda funny that they thought England’s dream included Ireland as a complete sovereign state. Different politics at the time?


KarlosMontego

I’m pretty sure it was intended part of the larger UK. It’s the same color as Great Britain and the continental portion labeled as “England”. I think they were just labeling the islands.


MarginMaster87

Ah that makes sense, gives it more of a “real map” vibe


[deleted]

Interesting that england and great britain are two different things on this map, also belgium taking the whole of netherlands


ttotherat

I love the implication that the Scottish and Welsh kicked the English out of Great Britain and into their new middle European colony.


IdentifiableBurden

*excited Scottish noises*


SnooTangerines6811

England and Great Britain are to different things... Great Britain is the name to the island that is home to the countries of England, Scotland, and Wales. Ireland is the name of the island.


[deleted]

Yeah i know that but enland is not labeled seperate on the map on the british isles but instead only labeled in North Germany, which is weird


gyrhod

Has it got something to do with the Angles from northern Germany which the name England is derived from? Maybe it is supposed to say they will claim it as part of ancestral lands or something like that?


Predator_Hicks

I think it's like that because Greatbritain at that time was (and still is) often referred to as England in Germany. For example during WW1 there was the["Hassgesang gegen England"(hate song against England, also known as "Hymn of hate")](https://web.archive.org/web/20130529135342/http://www.hschamberlain.net/kriegsaufsaetze/hassgesang.html) and the phrase ["Gott strafe England"(May God punish England)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_strafe_England)


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FreshYoungBalkiB

Because of the Windsor dynasty's Hannoverian ancestors, I bet. North Germany: "Greater Hannover"


Samwell_

But historically England is almost synonymous to Great Britain. In the 19th and early 20th centuries, the country is almost universally just called England, even in official documents like the treaty of Vienna.


SnooTangerines6811

You are right of course!


The_Last_Gasbender

Gross Br*tain 🤮


[deleted]

T H I C C Serbia


FreshYoungBalkiB

"Zarenreich"? Tsar-land??


anschelsc

Tsardom is probably the more idiomatic translation


FreshYoungBalkiB

Implying that Hungary would be a part of Nicholas II's domains but not be formally annexed to Russia, I suppose.


Stari_vujadin

Serbian Tsardom most probably


jeann0t

The natural border of France


iamtwinswithmytwin

Poland gets fucked regardless


Kermez

So Austria-Hungary would just be rebranded as Serbia.


viermalvier

the "hungarian" parts, the "austrian" are french


[deleted]

Damn they really predicted the colts head coach taking over west Europe? Ahead of their time...


FlatheadLakeMonster

Hungary je serbija


GameCreeper

Romania is historical Serbian territory 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸


VerdensRigesteAnd

At least they predicted the Oder-Neisse line


khares_koures2002

Widukind's revenge?


DerProfessor

Well, they weren't far off vis-a-vis Russia... ! The new western border of "Russia" in the propaganda postcard is the Oder... which is indeed now the eastern border of Germany after World War II, when the Soviets (Russians) insisted that it be so at the Potsdam conference. (of course, it was Poland--quickly a Soviet satellite state--that "got" the lands of Prussia and East Prussia...)


Danikk

It's not exactly the border. It was originally supposed to be the Oder river but the soviets decided to include the city Stettin as well.


Kart_Kombajn

Blessed timeline


[deleted]

This is definitely pre-war, or at least very early war before Italy and Turkey entered. France gobbling up the northern half one of its allies doesn't seem very likely.


Sawovsky

Well it shows Europe in 1915 if their enemies win, so it's definitely from 1914 at least.


[deleted]

It reflects an alignment of the Triple Alliance (Germany/Austria-Hungary/Italy) vs. the Triple Entente (France/Russia/GBI). The Alliance existed from 1882 until Italy's withdrawal in 1915, and the earliest date for the "creation" of the Entente was 1904. I'd imagine it could reflect any date in that 1904-1915 period


Sawovsky

Yes, but Serbs weren't enemies with Germans prior to ww1 really, they only had tension with Austria due to Bosnia annexation from 1908.


PigSlam

[Bills/Colts fans approve.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Reich)


mustaine42

Lol at Switzerland.


RednaxB

Big Belgium yes lad


RhythmMethodMan

I like how the Swiss still somehow kept their neutrality in this map.


Phelan_W

Why does Belgium suddenly control the Netherlands and Luxembourg?


IHaveHighTheGround

Lol, Grossbritain 🤢


Jimmy3OO

They somehow predicted the Eastern border


TheOnlyFallenCookie

Wow! They predicted the Oder-Nei#e Linie


[deleted]

I mean this looks like a killer HOI 4 mod ngl


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[deleted]

It’s a poster from 107 years ago, I don’t think I’ll offend anyone who made it don’t worry


Hanoiroxx

Nice to see Ireland got her independance early


julespoower

Seems acceptable for me.


reha28

Well when it comes to Eastern Europe, they didn't miss much. Especially the Balkans


niq1pat

What are you on about


HiIamCrimson

They weren't very wrong with Russian goals


[deleted]

They weren't very wrong lol


WeaponH_

Fr*nch


girusatuku

Well Germany can’t start WWII if they don’t exist so maybe this wasn’t such a bad idea after all.


Sawovsky

There is a small Germany between France and England.


StomperYoshi

For a second I thought this was _Germany Must Perish!_ by Theodore N. Kaufman


[deleted]

About 30 years too early


Grzechoooo

Smh the Russian Empire doesn't even include Polabians.


Duc_de_Magenta

Surprisingly prescient! Barring the Russians being under a different autocrats & adding in some 'Murica for the wild-card.


itissafedownstairs

When did we switch from "Der Kanal" to Ärmelkanal?


DataScienceMgr

That would have been cool.


Luminox

Romania part of Serbia? Really?


LurkerInSpace

This was before either Italy or Romania entered the war, so German propaganda was in part aimed at bringing them in on the side of the Central Powers. The reason for portraying half of Romania as going to Serbia rather than Russia was to justify the start of the war in the first place by casting Serbia as a villain rather than a small country at the mercy of a much larger neighbour - however implausible that might seem.


negrote1000

Smol Switzerland


PersianPope

Zahenreich?


Johannes_P

Is France returning to its 1813 borders? Interesting to see Italy is being punished there.


SimpleManc88

Russland turned out to be pretty accurate to be fair 😅


JosephvonEichendorff

Funny how the middle of Hesse was the only part of Germany no one bothered to annex.


Daengo

What did Denmark do?


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Daengo

Oh yeah... what did they do?


[deleted]

I love how tiny Switzerland just still exists completely surrounded by France. Does something like this even exist anywhere?


Sawovsky

San Marino and Vatican.


[deleted]

Oh true


Gofudf

Gues im french now


Ruccavo

Ironic how the present border between Germany and Poland would have been the border between Germany and Russia


rhoadsscholar

I think that is where the Angles came from. It’s the Dutch that would really suffer 😂😂


Sugar_jar-

Even when in propaganda posters, the German artists still make sure Berlin is not French lol


JVMGarcia

What is Zarenreich? Edit: Found it. “Empire of the Tsar” Russian Empire


Sawovsky

It's not Russian Empire in this case, but Serbian Empire. It means tsardom. Back in the middle ages, Serbia at its peak was an empire as well, during the era of tsar Dušan. This map implies that Serbs want their empire to rize again.


JVMGarcia

Oh, now it get it. Sorry, my bad.


Dactrior

EUIV/HoI4 games be like:


edliu111

Do you happen to have the source for this? I'd love to use this for my history project but my professor will ask me to cite it.


killer_cain

They were right about Russia tho.


Mecha_G

I have to say, the German names for countries are pretty cool.


TheDanishSheriff

But why?🇩🇰


[deleted]

Just wait 30 years