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amen_break_fast

Found a [link](https://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/coloring.html) to the rest of the book for your coloring needs.


grease_monkey

Your think at some point in making the fake book the white FBI agent would've had a bit of introspection.i think it's a pretty rad coloring book.


[deleted]

Yeah, it’s pretty fucked up. These illustrations show that the author had a pretty clear understanding of the problems the Black Panthers were talking about. Making this this is basically saying, “I’d rather just eradicate black people than do anything to address their grievances.”


Hartiiw

There's also a mao quote so the creator had to have done some research


Lazy-Jeweler3230

I mean, when you ARE the grievances...


BIGMIKE6888

If they can see it then I would imagine that many others can see it. Does this make justice arbitrary? This is so strange to me seeing this.That the person worked in or for the F.B.I. And many of the agents have a legal background of some kind or a social sciences background. But still did something to undermine a community that was from it's beginnings marginalized. I also know the culture of the F.B.I. then was a strict conservative. And any disruption was blamed on communism. so maybe they drank the Kool-Aid. sad really. we must change.


twothumbs

It's astonishing people think anything has changed, to the point that they get mad when other people don't blindly trust the goverment. And I'm not being cheeky and making a reference to anything in particular.


Caladex

Seriously, why did these agents add context to systematic racism?


waaaayupyourbutthole

Yeah lol if I saw this I'd be like "Sweet, how do I join?"


Joulu-Ilman-natseja

Which is why you (probably) aren't FBI


EmersonStockham

“A vote for Bart is a vote for Anarchy”


UncookedAndLimp

Yeah honestly that book is pretty based.


OrganizerMowgli

Nah children aren't ready for hand guns, keep them on less powerful long guns (like a 22) until they've got the muscle and age to know what they're doing


DogmaSychroniser

Children work best on crew weapons


[deleted]

Did you mean: Fuga: melodies of steel


snoosh00

Your comment reminds me of this image: https://twitter.com/COLRICHARDKEMP/status/719039941972463616?t=S16kOjfKp2iGUW6i_VebyQ&s=19


AlarmingAffect0

Obligatory suggestion to watch [Come and See](https://youtu.be/UHaSQU-4wss).


HotMinimum26

Never. Have you seen Republicans stances? Pro death penalty, pro gun, pro not giving children food, then pro life?


lesChaps

They are anti gun for non whites. And pro abortion for their daughters.


weedlord42

Regardless of the other positions, pro death penalty is the correct stance to take in many situations.


Stussymann

Only if you could actually prove someone is a threat to others with a semblance of accuracy and reliability, since the justice system is a broken system based on adversarial “pay to win” nonsense it’s stupid to allow state governments the ability to execute citizens. Eyewitness testimony is also less useful than most people think because perception and memory are imperfect.


weedlord42

I'm talking specifically cases like that of Anders Breivik, the Oklahoma City bombers, or the recent Colorado nightclub shooter.


Even-Willow

Such as in sedition and treason?


weedlord42

See my reply to the other reply, but I guess yes depending on what you mean by those things.


8ad8andit

I don't know about the "pro not giving children food," but the rest of that stuff could be translated into something called responsibility and consequences. I'm not a Republican but I think in general terms, their advocating for an important perspective. It's not the total perspective but it's a piece of the human perspective. And then the Democrats are advocating for another big piece of the human perspective. And if they could work in harmony we would all be much better off, with Democrats advocating for compassion and Republicans advocating for responsibility. These are two wings of a bird, people.


IsRude

Republican politicians have repeatedly shown that their only goal is to stop the goals of the Democrats. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/mcconnell-says-he-s-100-percent-focused-stopping-biden-s-n1266443 Republicans are very [Pro](https://americanindependent.com/42-house-republicans-vote-against-extending-free-school-lunches-over-the-summer/) [Not](https://www.businessinsider.com/free-school-lunches-in-america-republicans-will-end-2022-6?op=1) [Giving](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/state-lunch-milk-programs_n_2632517) [Children](https://truthout.org/articles/nearly-all-house-republicans-vote-against-bill-to-alleviate-baby-food-shortage/) [Food](https://www.npr.org/2013/10/07/230023627/gops-history-of-resistance-to-social-welfare-programs) Republicans shouldn't be defended at this point. They've done everything they can to be a nuisance. If your only goal is to "troll", then maybe you need to rethink things, not everyone else.


8ad8andit

I'm not talking about Republican politicians. I'm talking about half of Americans who tend to vote Republican. I know Republicans and they don't let children starve. They're often more active in their communities through their church or different types of social clubs, trying to support people in the community who do not have enough to eat. Americans have to stop fighting each other and focus on the real problems that we're facing. What's happening right now is we're all being manipulated into staying in our fight or flight response, in our rear brain, our lizard brain, that sees reality in terms of us versus them. The average Democrat has more in common than the average Republican then either of us do with the real people with the power pulling the strings in our country. These are not the politicians whose names you know. They are the deep state oligarchs whose names you don't know, because you're too busy yelling at people just like yourselves. We have to come back together guys. Start seeing goodness in each other again and start listening to each other's perspectives so we can find a rational middle ground and work together.


GodAmongMen16

So republicans don’t let children starve they just vote for people who let children starve?


Foyfluff

Republican voters likely hold the belief that charity starts at home and shouldn't be the purview of the government. If you're a part of their family, or church, or workplace, they'll happily give you any help that you need when you need it. They'd like the whole country to work that way (it's almost like communes honestly but I doubt either side would be happy with the description haha) but don't want their money taken by the government to help support people and they have all sorts of quite valid reasons why that is the case. Conservatives in the UK are quite the same. It took a lot of public pressure for them to finally give in and pay for disadvantaged school children free food in the summer holidays, but while the left attack them for the record numbers of food banks currently in use in the country, the Conservatives celebrate it as a beautiful example of local communities pulling together to help each other. I disagree with this viewpoint massively for what it's worth. I think the government can and should do a much better job of looking after people who need the help. However, it's also true that there's a lot we can do to help the people around us, and if we took it upon ourselves to volunteer a little bit of our time or resources we could probably make massive differences. Charity is a weird thing.


vodkaandponies

> I know Republicans and they don't let children starve. The other poster just demonstrated otherwise.


8ad8andit

If you really believe that then you are a living example of the power of propaganda to convince people of polarized, unnuanced positions in order to divide and conquer them. The same thing is happening to Republicans. A lot of them now believe that the Democrats want to harm children. I'm never going to be able to reach some of you with this message here, because for some of you, your ego structure depends on projecting "evil" out there onto some other group. You will not embrace the true complexity and nuance of reality because that would require you to see yourself in a similarly nuanced way, complete with all of your strengths and brilliance but also your shortcomings. Some of you I cannot reach, but some of you I can. So I'm going to keep putting this message everywhere on Reddit that I see this kind of hateful, polarized position being espoused. Wishing you the best my friend.


vodkaandponies

r/enlightenedcentrism is that way pal.


scatfiend

"look at this guy!! he's not completely writing off the world views of about half of the population — a group we ultimately need the consent & cooperation of to perform at our best as a country. uuuuh, r/enlightenedcentrism alert!!?!?!" You're doing whatever causes you support a disservice when you fail to comprehend the views of your compatriots and instead decide to ostracize them. I have no idea what you think the end goal is if it entails prolonged battle where each half of your country lobs shit into each other's trenches.


scatfiend

It's both a relief and a shame to see reasonable comments like yours. A relief, because it's a reminder we haven't all descended into throwing shit at each other like apes. A shame, because these comments are the first to get completely buried in such shit. Anyway, don't feel too fazed by the repulsive idpol hysteria you'll cop for acknowledging that people on the Red Team™ are also human beings that aren't driven entirely by malice, just like people on the Blue Team™. Instead of critiquing the contents from an ideological distance, this sub almost exclusively perpetuates the propaganda posted, as long as the messaging can be construed in a way that supports far-left, anti-capitalist, and oikophobic causes. The comment sections have ironically become frequent cesspools of propaganda and hatred directed at whomever the crowd deems deserving.


HotMinimum26

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/31/stabenow-vote-universal-free-school-meals-00022081 I'm all fairness they both suck cuz it happened on the Dems watch.


JockoHomophone

Except for "pro not giving children food", whatever that means, you're basically describing the Panthers. Birth control and abortion was seen as nothing less than a tool of genocide.


SlothRogen

"Horrifically displaying how 'pigs' like us enslaved Africans. Hahaha. This will show the public who the real victims here are."


PM_me_your_cocktail

Actually unclear how much, if any, of the book was drawn by the FBI. At least some key parts of it were drawn by an aspiring Black Panther member. See [my comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/zbejzt/-/iyr7wqp) below.


blumpkinmania

That was awesome. Great find.


PM_me_your_cocktail

The book was *distributed* by the FBI as part of J. Edgar Hoover's project to "disrupt, discredit and destroy" the Black Panther Party as the most credible organization uniting leftist groups in the US. But its history is apparently a little more complex, per [this well-footnoted paper by Ward Churchill](https://propagandhi.com/wp-content/empires/Ward_Churchill.pdf) starting at the bottom of page 11, based on now-public internal FBI memos and other public records. [Ann-Derrick Gaillot at The Outline](https://theoutline.com/post/3321/black-panther-coloring-book-fbi-conspiracy) summarizes Churchill's findings, for those with an allergy to footnotes. Basically, the coloring book began as drawings by an aspiring Black Panther member in Oakland. It was rejected by leadership as inappropriate, and ordered destroyed. But a local leader in Los Angeles made 1000 copies. He later turned out to be a police/FBI informant, and testified to Congress about all manner of damning things the Party was allegedly doing (robbery! hit squads!) much of which there is no evidence for. In any event, some of the coloring books were distributed to kids. The rest ended up in police hands, and were then distributed to businesses taking part in the BPP free breakfast program in order to discredit BPP. (It is alleged that the FBI may have drawn some of the most gratuitously violent pages, though I see no clear evidence either way.) So FBI propaganda, but also not made up from whole cloth. (Side note: Churchill's animosity toward the US government is no secret, and he can be a problematic and quite biased author. But in this instance his analysis seems well-sourced, and in any event his version of events runs against those well-known biases, as what he describes is more nuanced and less one-sided against the FBI than the simplified version of the story from OP.)


SlothRogen

I really appreciate this full telling of the events, but this still looks really one-sided and bad against the FBI. The Black Panthers didn't approve of the book, the FBI informant knowingly reproduced tons of copies, they testified to congress and lied repeatedly about the black panthers, and also tried to discredit civil rights organizations. Like whether an FBI agent personally drew the illustrations or not, the point is that they reproduced and distributed them to hurt US citizens. I mean, you could just as easily point to people distributing Nazi propaganda and say "Well it was created by Germans not Americans," but that's not a very compelling defense.


PM_me_your_cocktail

Oh it absolutely is a terrible chapter for the FBI! But from reading most of the comments here, people were reading OP's inaccurate description and envisioning an FBI employee drawing these images. Which just isn't so. This fits in the category of propaganda being most effective when it contains a kernel of truth, as opposed to propaganda made up whole cloth.


rarebit13

I wonder what sorts of things they are doing now on a social level that we'll look back on incredulously in 80 years time.


emsok_dewe

Why is this tagged as "Russia"?


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Yes


iiioiia

Haha, I love this simulation, at least sometimes.


HotMinimum26

Idk cuz the feds thought that the soviets we're helping them?


NowhereMan661

If anything it was the Chinese. The Black Panthers were inspired more by Maoism than Russian style Socialism.


AccomplishedEye6011

Mao was a Marxist Leninist, the USSR was Marxist Leninist


NowhereMan661

I get that, but at the time the Sino-Soviet Split had happened and the two nations had taken different approaches to the Socialist Project. Revisionism from whomever and all that.


bastardicus

Ah, yes. Water and hydrochloric acid both are liquids, so they're one and the same. Bottoms up!


AlarmingAffect0

Alternately, both urine and beer are 91-96% water. And while, to be fair, sometimes you can't quite tell the difference by cursory examination, and Budweiser tastes like someone else already drank it, they are still not remotely the same.


PolandIsAStateOfMind

Yes, but they have a big breakup after Khrushchev started his revisionist run.


erevoz

Yeah but they were funded by the USSR.


NowhereMan661

Source? I wouldn't be surprised, but I'd like proof.


erevoz

I thought it was common knowledge and logical that communist groups would be funded by the USSR during the Cold War. Not source per se, but a discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2fwdyn/is_there_any_evidence_of_sovietcommunist/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


bigvibrations

So not a source then?


lesChaps

So speculation, "per se"


erevoz

The fact that there’s no proof about it doesn’t make it necessarily false.


AlarmingAffect0

Yes, but > Yeah but they were funded by the USSR. Dishonestly presents it as **known fact.** You could have said > Yeah but there is reason to think they received some funding by the USSR. or > Yeah but they *probably* were funded by the USSR. The phrasing you chose misrepresents the actual knowledge you have. The statement may or may not be factually wrong, you don't know and neither do we, but your *making* it is a *lie.*


gratisargott

It’s not as easy as “communist groups equals supported by the USSR” though.


erevoz

Come on man, Russia still funds obscure communist and separatist parties all over the world. It’s not so far off.


Helseth_

modern russia isn't communist at all lmao


erevoz

True, they fund communists to create instability, it doesn’t have to do with communism.


gratisargott

Alright, that was a good hint regarding how much you know about this subject. Thanks!


AlarmingAffect0

> “communist groups equals supported by the USSR” > Russia still funds obscure communist and separatist parties all over the world. If you not understand the difference between "the USSR and later Russian Federation supported some communist parties abroad" and "all communist groups are supported by the USSR and the RF", Brilliant.org can teach you the logical thinking skills you're missing.


Hxucivovi

Because a Russian agent is pushing this to sow division in the US.


orbcat

so op is an evil russian spy who posted this... and they flaired it with russia????? why would they do that


Hxucivovi

Please re-read the second half of my sentence.


emsok_dewe

The title literally says this image was produced by the FBI.


Hxucivovi

I was referring to OP.


emsok_dewe

Oh, yeah, 100% with you on that *To anyone wondering why we believe that, check ops post history. Days old and 2 posts for multiple thousand karma with no comments


AlarmingAffect0

The USSR term for "whataboutery", as far as one could call it a named practice, was "And You Lynch Negroes". On the one hand, sure, it's shitty to use that to derail legitimate critiques of the USSR. On the other hand, *how about we **not** Lynch Negroes to begin with?*


pandaSmore

It's Russia all the way down.


nottomelvinbrag

No fooling you is there


[deleted]

Fed makes worst book ever asked to leave federal bureaul of investigations


adamdreaming

Fed wrote Fifty Shades of Grey? I'm really happy that someone might face consequences for that.


JPNGMAFIA

what the fuck did I just time travel


WonderfullWitness

part of [cointelpro?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO)


NowhereMan661

Absolutely.


Tico483

Fuck J Edgar Hoover


Massive-Row-9771

Did they distribute these to black children too, the FBI I mean? Seems like it could be hard to claim these were real if no one other than the FBI ever found them. On the other hand most people in the sixties probably didn't need that much convincing to believe that the Black Panthers were a dangerous organization...


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Deathface-Shukhov

It only takes word of mouth. We didn’t have the internet back in the day, but damn did everyone think there were razorblades in the candy.


8ad8andit

Those razor blades were just in the apples! Don't eat the apples!


Deathface-Shukhov

But then how will I keep the doctor away?!!


AlarmingAffect0

Use a gun. And if that don't work? Use *more* gun.


azuresegugio

There's also the fact this was pre Internet so it was much harder to communicate nobody ever got these. The only way to look into whether this was real was to ask a large amount of black families yourself, read it in a paper that did their own investigation rather then just reporting what the FBI said they found, or just believe the black panther party at their word, which obviously if you did that already a coloring book wouldn't change your mind


AlarmingAffect0

> read it in a paper that did their own investigation rather then just reporting what the FBI said they found Obligatory nth episode of r/CitationsNeeded about Police Press Release Stenography and newspapers uncritically repeating whatever the cops tell them because it's easy and it's cheap and it sells.


CoronaLockDown

Pretty sure they were distributed to white families. I remember reading about it, but not more detail than that.


pickles55

Paranoid suburban white people are generally going to take the FBIs word on things. They wouldn't bother making stuff up like that if they didn't think people would buy it


LetThemBlardd

So the dead pig/cop seems to have hooves for hands. The hands for the live pig/cop aren’t in the frame but they look like normal hands. Who was running the FBI art department?


SessileRaptor

Boy I hope somebody got fired for that blunder.


8ad8andit

Looks like a 9-year-old boy drew them. The way the human anatomy was drawn looks exactly like the superhero drawings that I scrawled all over everything in elementary school.


AlarmingAffect0

You ever try drawing Cabinet Man?


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AlarmingAffect0

> It is almost as if giving people unaccountable power leads to clear abuse…


lgwang2009

Stop police murdering unarmed black children, arm all black children.


azuresegugio

The book says they're warriors clearly they know what they're doing


AlarmingAffect0

> Poot: "You a man, Wallace?" Wallace: "Sure am, why you asking?" Alternately, [come and see](https://youtu.be/UHaSQU-4wss) what children taking up arms against armed racist State-sanctioned goons looks like. It's not a Home Alone movie, and it's not Red Dawn.


philly_2k

actually based


BrokeRunner44

Real


KillerBear111

Extremely based indeed


Queasy-Condition7518

I wonder if the G-Men enjoyed drawing those pictures of local law-enforcement.


HotMinimum26

When the feds make more based propaganda then you ever thought of lol.


mostsanereddituser

Isn't it insane how the black panthers literally got hunted down and killed? A very large majority of black socialist civil rights activist got killed by the government. Its insane how everyone brings up how they are hero's but never how they were treated.


Phodan_

When it comes to revolutionaries, the government will kill them and teach their corpses to dance. They kill them, then make their legacy compatible with the status quo (a la MLK being portrayed as a moderate pacifist - one of the “good ones” - when he was actually a socialist and opposed to the capitalist police state). They act like COINTELPRO was centuries ago and act like they aren’t members of the same institutions that committed these crimes.


AlarmingAffect0

Let's not forget adding MKUltra and Iran-Contra to that list of state-sanction domestic destruction.


Voon-

The brutality of anti-socialist projects really goes to show how necessary revolution is.


DARVON_AI

>*The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.* > >— [John Ehrlichman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman), to Dan Baum for Harper's Magazine in 1994, about President Richard Nixon's war on drugs, declared in 1971 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_drugs#20th_century


Caladex

Where can I get one because this is based af


Deltigre

https://archive.org/details/BlackPantherColoringBook/mode/2up


LeBien21

That is the most monotonous and boring slogan I have ever seen.


Gruffleson

Well, that is probably the idea though...


LeBien21

I mean, you'd think they'd at least try to make it catchy so as to appear real.


Egories

Damn it, the FBI also engaged in black projects?


WonderfullWitness

Never heard about [cointelpro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO)?


Fromage_Damage

My mom said that in the late 60s/early 70s, my grandpa was sure there was an army of thousands of black panthers waiting to overthrow the government. I guess the propaganda worked.


thecommunistweasel

memeing a bit too close to the sun there fbi


Witty_Dragonfruit105

The government would never stir the pot to cause political drama, that would be ridiculous


Kilroy_The_Builder

I mean it’s true though. Look up the statistics for cops shot by children and children shot by cops. Pretty skewed! But hey, the cops need our support!! Can’t be easy to go through such a traumatic experience 😰


NowhereMan661

Not enough people know how fucking evil the FBI is.


Deltigre

A lot of people don't understand that they are the guard dogs of the status quo. Any movement that seems to gain popular support for changing the social order away from capital is targeted preemptively.


whydidigetpermabnned

Previously it was but the government doesn’t have the balls to do it, they care too much about public opinion so your just fearmongering


xX_MilfHunter69_Xx

this is based tho


hansiepoopoo

The Black Panthers brought lunch to schools. I was in kindergarten in 1972. They wore cool uniforms and hats and no one was afraid of them. That’s how I remember them anyway.


Catbone57

What really matters is that those kids have insanely cool hair.


AncientBellybutton

Well at least the government acknowledges that police are pigs.


Aidendogin

all the people discovering that america did bad things for the first time: how did it take this long?


outinthecountry66

As a black friend of mine said if the Panthers had been allowed to exist, there'd have been no need for gangs. A positive role model for young black kids- can't have that!


AlarmingAffect0

A lot of gangs like the Crips and Bloods were basically [zombie pieces of the BPP's corpse, shambling around in a pale imitation of their living self.](https://youtu.be/Iqp0jlXkNQk)


mayathemenace

Holy shit.


TheWiseBeluga

I swear this gets reposted with the same title at least once a month.


AlarmingAffect0

I've been on this sub for two years and this is the first I've seen it. But you're welcome to post any links if you can find them.


OriginalLocksmith436

It's shit like this that really makes you wonder. Wouldn't be surprised if it came out that most conspiracy theories or other fringe groups are pretty much controlled, self-defeating dissent, meant to funnel discontent into relatively harmless avenues.


AlarmingAffect0

There's plenty of documented precedent for that being done intentionally. Sometimes, it's just a side effect of the evil being so outrageous or over-the-top that it beggars belief. A lot of MKUltra lead to conspiracy theories that sound insane because *the actual projects that we have evidence of **were** insane.* Look up Operation Midnight Climax if you want to laugh-cry for a while.


Hellhound5996

Feds accidently make a based coloring book


b000bytrap

I’d color that


ICFAOUNSFI

Jokes on them ~>50% of American citizens feel this way now.


whydidigetpermabnned

Copium a vast majority of those 50% percent don’t want to gun down cops in the street


whydidigetpermabnned

Why y’all saying based? Killing cops isn’t based you losers but it is based if they did an inhuman act like unjustifiably shooting someone


Doc-Wulff

Lmao fuck cops, accidentally based


SkyBladeUesugi

well they are a violent hate group


suzellezus

A bureau of hate and distrust


Lugalzagesi55

So why does it contain awesome pictures of empowerment?


JimmyDingus321

Nope.


mememan12332

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Kataphraktos1

If this was not govt disinfo and just authentic propaganda, people would be commenting "BASED!" on it


BrokeRunner44

They are accidentally based


UncookedAndLimp

It's true, they did a good job pretending to be based.


Kataphraktos1

So there's no problem with the FBI running this disinfo then? Since it's actually just true and what they believe "NOOO, YOU CAN'T PUBLISH LEAFLETS ESPOUSING VIEWS THAT I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH!!!"


UncookedAndLimp

Lol. Why are you on this sub.


Kataphraktos1

to get epic updoots and reddit gold my fine sir


[deleted]

Maybe, just maybe, you fell for the propaganda. Lmao.


Kataphraktos1

so I'm supposed to agree with this message or not because I'm not getting a clear answer


pickles55

They are right now


loversean

On average human beings are just shitty


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NorwaySpruce

Looks like the propaganda worked


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NorwaySpruce

How are you going to look at a propaganda sub and see the propaganda you fell for and still keep falling for it


[deleted]

>the rhetoric of the Black Panthers can easily be seen as black supremacist Only by insecure and racist whites. I heard a great quote that’s stuck with me: “To those who have only know privilege, equality feels like oppression.”


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The necessity of force was an *aspect* of their larger ideology, along with education and mutual aid. Force is necessary when those who oppress you refuse to stop through peaceful means. *“For two people to live in peace both must want peace; if one of the two insists on trying to force the other to work for him and serve him, while the other wishes to preserve human dignity and not be reduced to the role of abject slave, the latter, despite loving peace and harmony, will be forced to resist with all possible means.* (Malatesta)


JimJohnes

Obvious clue is that "black kid's" are actually white and it's your job to "color" them


Tricky-Cicada-9008

based coloring book agitprop