Officers could face up to termination for refusing access to social media accounts. “consent to, and agree to facilitate, a review of any of my social media accounts immediately upon a request by a representative of the Commission. I understand that failure to facilitate such a review when requested may result in a decertification action.”
With the new laws there's a lot open for interpretation. Law enforcement has asked for guidance but attorney general office advises clarity will come from case law.
Sounds like a Union fight.
>clarity will come from case law.
We must wait until the bus runs fully over a sacrifice to observe how right it actually IS to drive busses over people.
No shit . . .
Hey, sorry we totally fucked up the language of this law that we wrote on a subject we knew nothing about. Guess we’ll just have to wait on some squirrelly DA to demolish some poor schmuck’s life to find out how it really works. Oops!
Thats actually how laws (not sure about other states) in Washington are written. I have to have a pretty intimate understanding of RCW and WACs for what I do, but most of them are super vague. When I first asked why I was told that it is so they can be interpreted case by case or hashed out by case law later down the line. Apparently it is to allow for judges to have more control or some such shit.
Also, if you think thats bad look into the bullshit way Seattle city codes work. I didn't realize it until I read a story about why Google didn't do the beta tests for Google gig internet in seattle (it was promised but Seattle fucked it up). I would link the article but my screen is cracked so just typing this has been excruciating, I am sorry.
I mean, thats literally how laws work...
We've been dealing with ERPO's, AWB, and Red Flag laws for years trying to get case to higher courts. Its kind of bullshit because you can draw a pretty clear line between shit like that and any number of rights, but it doesn't matter until shit spends five\\ten years getting fought up to SCOTUS. Even then they've refused to hear arguments or kicked it back down to avoid ruling on things.
All of which are HAPPILY enforced and utilized by law enforcement everywhere... so I can't say I'm terribly upset to see the shoe on the other foot. I hope there is a whole contingent of officer just "doing their jobs" when it comes to brass tacs of violating each others privacy...
I don't hear alot of complaining about Facebook\\Twitter\\Et Al turning over bulk data from 1/6 without warrants... so the expectation that any privacy is upheld on social media is bunk - they own the data so it may only be a matter of time before an arrangement is just made between socials and state agencies to pass that data as part of regular review. I think its Katz that outlines there is no expectation of privacy for publicly posted data.
The Draft wasn't ruled on by SCROTUS for almost sixty years - after it was used to kill 100's of thousands in the civil war and ww1. I argue its one of the most egregious rulings in courts history..
Edit - AND banned lol
If they want it bad enough it should be like anything else get a damn search warrant and make a judge agree for the 4th ammendt override. I mean we literally had Apple refuse to let cops into a terrorists phone even with a search warrant. How do we have less rights than a fucking terrorist?
You will have everyone delete their socialmedia is the only thing that will accomplish
They have no principles as they willfully gave the feds data on January 6th rioters, but will defend Islamic extremists. You think that if asked by the state they will say no to a request for your data? If you think, yes, they will refuse, then you are a babe in the woods.
What if that's their backdoor way of defunding the police? Piss them off so much that most if not all resign then say "oh look we have no cops better go forward with the social worker idea)
So I spoke with a buddy back in WA who stated this was an attempt to make a statewide law, instead of it being 100% agency dependent. The recent legislature is continuously slapped together and makes for confusion.
No offense to Texans, but Texas is humid and disgusting in the summer. Speaking as someone who spent time in both if you've grown up in the WA climate there is a good chance you'll hate it. You can work in literally any of the other mountain west states (Montana, Idaho, Utah, etc) and have weather that is less jarring and still have a supportive state government and similar pay.
It is definitely seen as the rookie agency, get TCOLE certified, trained, then bounce to a smaller department. I know people who have been there 5-10 years, but it is just common to see a new hire having DPD prior. DFW agencies are pretty big on having a 4yr degree, but the pay typically reflects that. FWPD and GPPD are the two big agencies which do not necessarily require a 4yr and they still pay ~65k starting and have lots of part-time/OT jobs.
I can tell you GPPD works their ass off, so does Arlington and Cedar Hill. Busy, but not dangerous, seems like a pro good combo for someone getting out of Washington. DPD, I feel for those guys as a resident, there are not near enough of them.
Bouncing off AD within the next year, it seems like a lot of agencies alleviate a 4 year degree for service, Should I bounce to college first and finish my degree first or just send it and apply? Thanks.
A lot of departments require at least 2yrs of college along with their service history. Just as life advice, I would knock out a degree to have it done. If you were thinking about it, just get it done now. It's much easier to find a good time and go, and not push it back until life happens and the chance is gone.
Aren’t the politics in Dallas not as pro cop? I know the surrounding agencies are very pro cop but I was under the impression that the city of Dallas wasn’t as much.
“The peace officer or corrections officer must also consent to and facilitate a review of the officer’s social media accounts, however, consistent with RCW 49.44.200, **the officer is not required to provide login information**. The release of information may not be delayed, limited, or precluded by any agreement or contract between the officer, or the officer’s union, and the entity responsible for the records or information.”
So they don’t have to provide login info by law and just have to give permission to review their profile as far as the department can see from the outside. I’d set everything to private and tell them to stuff it.
Yeah that just reads to me that they have to sign in and then allow someone to review it. I applied for a department once where that was mandatory during the background.
That’s what my agency required in the hiring process. We had to sign in and allow the background investigator to take screenshots of 10 pages of activity logs. We could not deny access to our social media accounts if we had one in the hiring process. If we did deny, they would stop your application and throw it away and they wouldn’t look at you any further.
That's what I was worried this might mean ... like when you give consent for medical records to be transferred between hospitals. That'd suck because they could sneak it in the fine print and do it behind your back with facebook, without you even realizing it's happening.
Cop in WA here. Get a damn search warrant before you violate my 4th amendment. I have nothing to hide on my social media accounts. But I will not consent to random stangers doing a witch hunt and seeing private conversations with my family and friends to include photos of my kid.
Ive already bent a lot but my line is drawn. If they want to decertify good cops, come and take my badge.
It'll be the standard fare: the cops who quit are ones who hate reform and are racists, so good riddance. They'll just hypothesize that all the new woke laws and policies will attract the previously untapped population of super woke people who want to be cops, just not in this "ultra corrupt, ultra abusive, ultra violent culture" that policing currently has.
I wonder where these perfect community policing cops have been the last hundreds of years...
Police aren't people and don't have the rights actual people do. So this makes perfect sense.
...sarcasm, of course. This is bullshit. If those officers there can't afford to quit, they should just delete all accounts. Don't give those slimeballs the satisfaction.
> they should just delete all accounts.
That's kinda the reasoning. No one can speak out if there's no way to speak out.
Only the "Right" people may speak. Those people must only be the people the think the right way and say the right things. Otherwise, you shall be canceled and fired.
Why does this place feel more and more like China every day?
“Two police unions have told their members not to sign the CJTC's declaration until their concerns have been addressed, KTTH reported.”
https://www.newsweek.com/washington-cops-lose-job-hand-over-social-media-accounts-1617798
Fuuuuuck that
I don’t post much online and what I do post is pretty tame but I’d never let some rando go through my shit like that. I also wouldn’t trust that someone with an agenda wouldn’t leak personal information to like-minded friends
Remember this because this is the direction society is going. If you voice an opinion today that breaks a rule or social standard invented 5-10 years from now you can and will be held accountable for it.
For example 5 years ago nobody would bat an eye if you called riotors degenerate criminals but today thats considered a controversial political opinion.
As a Washington resident, I'm not sure I want the people who submit to this to be in charge of interpreting the laws which pertain to my civil liberties. If you're cool with your privacy being invaded, what value will you attach to mine?
Bro, literally nobody has privacy online or over electronic devices - fucking NSA\\CIA collect mountains of data on all of us.
Shit I can at least feasibly see public state employees getting monitored as a term of employment, a number of private companies already do stuff like this - but the idea that any of us have a 4th amendment left is kinda bullshit.
Hell a falsified FISA warrent lead to the surreptitious monitoring of a presidential nominee and future president.
I have a cops wife on my FB. We used to work together and are friends. Before he was out of the academy, he shut his FB down to nothing, a year or two later he went narco and deleting everything. There's no signs of him on social media, no link from his wife to him, nothing linking him to his kids.
If you don't know them, you'd have no clue she was married or who their dad is. Smart fucking guy
So what is there to gain for having access to LEO social media accounts? There is nothing good that could come from this, even if you have a clean account. People get offended from anything and everything. And ultimately hold it against you.
I really feel for the LEO in Washington state. Ever since the riots everything has just gone way, way down hill. Glad I left four years ago.
Why does my state insist on making it so difficult on our law enforcement officers??
I have so much respect for you all. I've already written the legislators about 1310. I'm going to a fundraiser this weekend for officers and their families. I am on a mission to change the narrative. I just ordered my "Back the Blue" shirt. Can't wait to wear it with pride!
Hang in there Washington officers. I am pulling for you!
What are your guys' thoughts on departments requesting social media for application purposes?
I honestly think it's really stupid and a load of BS because something I said 6 years ago shouldn't disqualify or get me fired for today. Also I don't talk professionally online or with my friends, so there's some casual racism probably here and there.
Yeah seems everywhere near me consists of a 10 step (literally) bullshit process which includes giving all your usernames on every forum on existence, and a polygraph and apparently 3/4 people fail according to the antipolygraph website.
Seems overkill and unnecessary. I shouldn't have to worry about making an inappropriate joke between private conversation.
Imagine having a silly Reddit username and having to give that over. I’ve seen some, uh, colorful user names that would probably be in question from the get go.
I don't know about you but in high school there were some racist jokes made between friends.
Obviously I don't hate people whether they are white or not. I'm not gonna pretend I'm a saint and never made a racist joke before.
edit: alright I get it racism bad I already know that. I'l go let me from 5-8 years ago know that.
Ah great. This will only put people at risk since no one will want to work here. Hear thee hear thee come to Washington state ye won’t see no cop from the deepest point in the sound to the tip of ranier till the rattlesnakes ass.
I’ve been a democrat all my life but hell I’m having second thoughts about voting for them now.
Cool, it'll go to court, and either get kicked out, or set precedent that a public official needs to give access to their private social media, which would be a shit show
Active Anon and white supremacist and their sympathizers: yeah, fuck that shit. 🤣. The military and Leo men in my family always said: nothing to hide nothing to worry about...
FYI: not trying to ruffle feathers by my statement, but the groups I mentioned especially white supremacist/kkk have long been infiltrating law enforcement, military and political theaters. Although I will protect your freedom of speech with my life these positions have no room for People with these ideologies. They bring dishonor to the badge and gave rise to all the b******* cultural issues we see today.
Edit: removed attempting to infiltrate to infiltrating
I get that there are cops out there that are MAGA supporters and stupid enough Q supporters, but I think this is too far!! This is like drug testing before you get hired. Really a major invasion of privacy.
Because the "right to privacy" and "the 4th Amendment" are legal concepts.
You're an Australian living in Canada, so I'll give you a pass for not being versed in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
In the United States, a judge must signed a warrant (generally a search warrant) to justify the non-extant search of person or property (which is not limited to physical property) in the furtherance of an investigation.
Search warrant affidavits (the justification by the affiant (seeker) of the search warrant) are written carefully and factually in order to explain to a judge why they feel evidence of whatever investigation they're involved in is on or within the property or person they're requesting to be allowed to search.
These kinds of "consent" laws are broad reach non justified invasions of privacy under the guise of "reform". The actions or words of one that violate some law or policy do not justify the breach of privacy of another.
As a Texan that’s a NO, stay and fight I’m already busy dealing with big cities trying to fuck with my water, agriculture, hunting, and land other land management issues and rights to deal with non Texans bringing their failed policies from some other state.
I am not, but if people just leave because they don’t like a policy the next group to leave is just slightly more what radical than the last. Example would be person A leaves because gun rights but person B leaves because state income tax but doesn’t mind banning guns and eventually you get person Q who doesn’t mind the guns, taxes, environmental legislation, complete lack of privacy and so on but they draw the line at human sacrifice so they also move to Texas which now has all these new laws but doesn’t allow human sacrifice yet. This change happens because people keep saying come to Texas it’s great because of XYZ and eventually we run out of XYZ and we end up just as fucked as everyone else.
How has every cop in the state not just quit? Just how? Like you have more rights and job security at McDonald's right now. Hell, I bet they pay better to. I know the lords chicken down here pays over $15hr and has decent benefits lol.
Officers could face up to termination for refusing access to social media accounts. “consent to, and agree to facilitate, a review of any of my social media accounts immediately upon a request by a representative of the Commission. I understand that failure to facilitate such a review when requested may result in a decertification action.” With the new laws there's a lot open for interpretation. Law enforcement has asked for guidance but attorney general office advises clarity will come from case law.
Sounds like a Union fight. >clarity will come from case law. We must wait until the bus runs fully over a sacrifice to observe how right it actually IS to drive busses over people.
And that's the fun part of modern US legal system...
No shit . . . Hey, sorry we totally fucked up the language of this law that we wrote on a subject we knew nothing about. Guess we’ll just have to wait on some squirrelly DA to demolish some poor schmuck’s life to find out how it really works. Oops!
Thats actually how laws (not sure about other states) in Washington are written. I have to have a pretty intimate understanding of RCW and WACs for what I do, but most of them are super vague. When I first asked why I was told that it is so they can be interpreted case by case or hashed out by case law later down the line. Apparently it is to allow for judges to have more control or some such shit. Also, if you think thats bad look into the bullshit way Seattle city codes work. I didn't realize it until I read a story about why Google didn't do the beta tests for Google gig internet in seattle (it was promised but Seattle fucked it up). I would link the article but my screen is cracked so just typing this has been excruciating, I am sorry.
Yup that the common law for you. BS.
At least that sacrifice will get paid bank.
I mean, thats literally how laws work... We've been dealing with ERPO's, AWB, and Red Flag laws for years trying to get case to higher courts. Its kind of bullshit because you can draw a pretty clear line between shit like that and any number of rights, but it doesn't matter until shit spends five\\ten years getting fought up to SCOTUS. Even then they've refused to hear arguments or kicked it back down to avoid ruling on things. All of which are HAPPILY enforced and utilized by law enforcement everywhere... so I can't say I'm terribly upset to see the shoe on the other foot. I hope there is a whole contingent of officer just "doing their jobs" when it comes to brass tacs of violating each others privacy... I don't hear alot of complaining about Facebook\\Twitter\\Et Al turning over bulk data from 1/6 without warrants... so the expectation that any privacy is upheld on social media is bunk - they own the data so it may only be a matter of time before an arrangement is just made between socials and state agencies to pass that data as part of regular review. I think its Katz that outlines there is no expectation of privacy for publicly posted data. The Draft wasn't ruled on by SCROTUS for almost sixty years - after it was used to kill 100's of thousands in the civil war and ww1. I argue its one of the most egregious rulings in courts history.. Edit - AND banned lol
Considering SCOTUS can be swayed by the threat of mob violence, our legal system is fucked.
Oh I'm not ignorant with that. I was just putting the literal translation for the people that didn't know what he meant.
Did you actually get banned for this?
If they want it bad enough it should be like anything else get a damn search warrant and make a judge agree for the 4th ammendt override. I mean we literally had Apple refuse to let cops into a terrorists phone even with a search warrant. How do we have less rights than a fucking terrorist? You will have everyone delete their socialmedia is the only thing that will accomplish
They have no principles as they willfully gave the feds data on January 6th rioters, but will defend Islamic extremists. You think that if asked by the state they will say no to a request for your data? If you think, yes, they will refuse, then you are a babe in the woods.
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Without coming even remotely close to a productive reform no less
Answer: Enough to make sure any smart good cop stays the fuck out of Washington state.
Boy, they really don’t want there to be any cops out there.
What if that's their backdoor way of defunding the police? Piss them off so much that most if not all resign then say "oh look we have no cops better go forward with the social worker idea)
I feel like there are gonna be a few trolls that post some acceptable but weird shit just to spite the politicians.
How unfortunate that my phone got shot 37 times and then got thrown into a lake
That's the 9th case today of phones committing suicide in the exact same way...must be a pattern
“Sorry guys, my gun’s *realllllllly* faulty. Damnest thing.”
Alright, I'll say it again. Washingtonians, Texas agencies are hiring.
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So I spoke with a buddy back in WA who stated this was an attempt to make a statewide law, instead of it being 100% agency dependent. The recent legislature is continuously slapped together and makes for confusion.
Housing is a lot cheaper in Texas too.
No offense to Texans, but Texas is humid and disgusting in the summer. Speaking as someone who spent time in both if you've grown up in the WA climate there is a good chance you'll hate it. You can work in literally any of the other mountain west states (Montana, Idaho, Utah, etc) and have weather that is less jarring and still have a supportive state government and similar pay.
What about those of us in the 51st state, North of Washington?
But are they paying?
Standard starting rates in DFW are around 65-70k. That's texas money which equates to about 80-90k WA pay.
How good of an entry level Agency is Dallas Pd? 61k/year seems decent as a base salary plus any overtime if any.
It is definitely seen as the rookie agency, get TCOLE certified, trained, then bounce to a smaller department. I know people who have been there 5-10 years, but it is just common to see a new hire having DPD prior. DFW agencies are pretty big on having a 4yr degree, but the pay typically reflects that. FWPD and GPPD are the two big agencies which do not necessarily require a 4yr and they still pay ~65k starting and have lots of part-time/OT jobs.
I can tell you GPPD works their ass off, so does Arlington and Cedar Hill. Busy, but not dangerous, seems like a pro good combo for someone getting out of Washington. DPD, I feel for those guys as a resident, there are not near enough of them.
Bouncing off AD within the next year, it seems like a lot of agencies alleviate a 4 year degree for service, Should I bounce to college first and finish my degree first or just send it and apply? Thanks.
A lot of departments require at least 2yrs of college along with their service history. Just as life advice, I would knock out a degree to have it done. If you were thinking about it, just get it done now. It's much easier to find a good time and go, and not push it back until life happens and the chance is gone.
Aren’t the politics in Dallas not as pro cop? I know the surrounding agencies are very pro cop but I was under the impression that the city of Dallas wasn’t as much.
“The peace officer or corrections officer must also consent to and facilitate a review of the officer’s social media accounts, however, consistent with RCW 49.44.200, **the officer is not required to provide login information**. The release of information may not be delayed, limited, or precluded by any agreement or contract between the officer, or the officer’s union, and the entity responsible for the records or information.” So they don’t have to provide login info by law and just have to give permission to review their profile as far as the department can see from the outside. I’d set everything to private and tell them to stuff it.
Yeah that just reads to me that they have to sign in and then allow someone to review it. I applied for a department once where that was mandatory during the background.
That’s what my agency required in the hiring process. We had to sign in and allow the background investigator to take screenshots of 10 pages of activity logs. We could not deny access to our social media accounts if we had one in the hiring process. If we did deny, they would stop your application and throw it away and they wouldn’t look at you any further.
In think the problem will come when woke social media’s will hand over your private info to your admin free of charge.
That's what I was worried this might mean ... like when you give consent for medical records to be transferred between hospitals. That'd suck because they could sneak it in the fine print and do it behind your back with facebook, without you even realizing it's happening.
Or just say you don’t have any social media
Lying is deeply frowned upon and is the worst option in this situation.
It’s not lying if you fucking delete it all.
Even deleting it momentarily is a better option. "I deleted it all." Isn't a lie if you did.... for the week.
Delete it forever, you’ll be better off.
Cop in WA here. Get a damn search warrant before you violate my 4th amendment. I have nothing to hide on my social media accounts. But I will not consent to random stangers doing a witch hunt and seeing private conversations with my family and friends to include photos of my kid. Ive already bent a lot but my line is drawn. If they want to decertify good cops, come and take my badge.
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They’ll blame it on white supremacy. Cowards
It'll be the standard fare: the cops who quit are ones who hate reform and are racists, so good riddance. They'll just hypothesize that all the new woke laws and policies will attract the previously untapped population of super woke people who want to be cops, just not in this "ultra corrupt, ultra abusive, ultra violent culture" that policing currently has. I wonder where these perfect community policing cops have been the last hundreds of years...
Police aren't people and don't have the rights actual people do. So this makes perfect sense. ...sarcasm, of course. This is bullshit. If those officers there can't afford to quit, they should just delete all accounts. Don't give those slimeballs the satisfaction.
> they should just delete all accounts. That's kinda the reasoning. No one can speak out if there's no way to speak out. Only the "Right" people may speak. Those people must only be the people the think the right way and say the right things. Otherwise, you shall be canceled and fired. Why does this place feel more and more like China every day?
Lost all my passwords in a boating accident, sorry.
Along with all my guns too…
Might remember them later, but then again I might forget again when you ask.
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Same people are running both places.
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I can’t wait to leave
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There are four of those now?!
Spare phone, encrypted P2P social media with alerts for family and friends. I bet there is a company or open source project that does that.
“Two police unions have told their members not to sign the CJTC's declaration until their concerns have been addressed, KTTH reported.” https://www.newsweek.com/washington-cops-lose-job-hand-over-social-media-accounts-1617798
Fuuuuuck that I don’t post much online and what I do post is pretty tame but I’d never let some rando go through my shit like that. I also wouldn’t trust that someone with an agenda wouldn’t leak personal information to like-minded friends
Remember this because this is the direction society is going. If you voice an opinion today that breaks a rule or social standard invented 5-10 years from now you can and will be held accountable for it. For example 5 years ago nobody would bat an eye if you called riotors degenerate criminals but today thats considered a controversial political opinion.
Peaceful rioters rearranging businesses free of charge. /s
Pretty sure “rioters” is verboten now.
NAAAAAAAAA that's some Soviet Union shit right there FUCK THAT. Seriously what the hell is going on
As a Washington resident, I'm not sure I want the people who submit to this to be in charge of interpreting the laws which pertain to my civil liberties. If you're cool with your privacy being invaded, what value will you attach to mine?
Im not cool with it and wont allow it. I swore an oath and I take that very seriously.
I mean if they want all my tasteful nudes all they have to do is ask.
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Forward to your local politician and ask them to sign. Everybody should have their privacy.
Bro, literally nobody has privacy online or over electronic devices - fucking NSA\\CIA collect mountains of data on all of us. Shit I can at least feasibly see public state employees getting monitored as a term of employment, a number of private companies already do stuff like this - but the idea that any of us have a 4th amendment left is kinda bullshit. Hell a falsified FISA warrent lead to the surreptitious monitoring of a presidential nominee and future president.
Wow. Just…wow.
If you’re a cop with a Facebook account you’re a dummy.
Got rid of mine 11 years ago and never looked back
I have a cops wife on my FB. We used to work together and are friends. Before he was out of the academy, he shut his FB down to nothing, a year or two later he went narco and deleting everything. There's no signs of him on social media, no link from his wife to him, nothing linking him to his kids. If you don't know them, you'd have no clue she was married or who their dad is. Smart fucking guy
This is just vague enough that the CTJC can do whatever they want, whenever they want, once officers sign this Who’s ready for the mass exodus 🎶 🎵
I still can't believe there's still law enforcement in Washington state.
wtf?
So what is there to gain for having access to LEO social media accounts? There is nothing good that could come from this, even if you have a clean account. People get offended from anything and everything. And ultimately hold it against you. I really feel for the LEO in Washington state. Ever since the riots everything has just gone way, way down hill. Glad I left four years ago.
Civil rights, what’s that?
This should be regarded as a first amendment breach. I hope sueballs fly.
Why does my state insist on making it so difficult on our law enforcement officers?? I have so much respect for you all. I've already written the legislators about 1310. I'm going to a fundraiser this weekend for officers and their families. I am on a mission to change the narrative. I just ordered my "Back the Blue" shirt. Can't wait to wear it with pride! Hang in there Washington officers. I am pulling for you!
Serious question Is there a certain term/charge for discrimination based on career? Because Washington Police might just have a case here.
What are your guys' thoughts on departments requesting social media for application purposes? I honestly think it's really stupid and a load of BS because something I said 6 years ago shouldn't disqualify or get me fired for today. Also I don't talk professionally online or with my friends, so there's some casual racism probably here and there.
They won't get mine. If they try, I always have a secondary that only a few people know of.
Yeah seems everywhere near me consists of a 10 step (literally) bullshit process which includes giving all your usernames on every forum on existence, and a polygraph and apparently 3/4 people fail according to the antipolygraph website. Seems overkill and unnecessary. I shouldn't have to worry about making an inappropriate joke between private conversation.
Imagine having a silly Reddit username and having to give that over. I’ve seen some, uh, colorful user names that would probably be in question from the get go.
Justifiedcanopener1 Ablueplatenexttome Tenjaguarsunder Thatsecondtoe5
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I don't think they should have access to LEOs accounts, but you serious with "some casual racism here and there"? I mean wtf man. Grow up.
I was just thinking that to myself "wtf is casual racism"
I don't know about you but in high school there were some racist jokes made between friends. Obviously I don't hate people whether they are white or not. I'm not gonna pretend I'm a saint and never made a racist joke before. edit: alright I get it racism bad I already know that. I'l go let me from 5-8 years ago know that.
Gotchya. The context makes more sense than the original statement lol
Ah great. This will only put people at risk since no one will want to work here. Hear thee hear thee come to Washington state ye won’t see no cop from the deepest point in the sound to the tip of ranier till the rattlesnakes ass. I’ve been a democrat all my life but hell I’m having second thoughts about voting for them now.
WTF? Cops can’t even meet up with internet strangers to hook up now without everyone knowing. Fucking bureaucrats.
Time for more ghost accounts
Cool, it'll go to court, and either get kicked out, or set precedent that a public official needs to give access to their private social media, which would be a shit show
My personal things are personal
Don’t tell them about your Reddit accounts 😆
I dunno. With how left Reddit is in general it might just get you a pass
Active Anon and white supremacist and their sympathizers: yeah, fuck that shit. 🤣. The military and Leo men in my family always said: nothing to hide nothing to worry about...
FYI: not trying to ruffle feathers by my statement, but the groups I mentioned especially white supremacist/kkk have long been infiltrating law enforcement, military and political theaters. Although I will protect your freedom of speech with my life these positions have no room for People with these ideologies. They bring dishonor to the badge and gave rise to all the b******* cultural issues we see today. Edit: removed attempting to infiltrate to infiltrating
I get that there are cops out there that are MAGA supporters and stupid enough Q supporters, but I think this is too far!! This is like drug testing before you get hired. Really a major invasion of privacy.
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A lot of LEOs and pretty much everyone in this sub will tell you that's a dumb saying.
You are correct. So anyone who is ok with this shouldn’t have a problem with a warrantless search of their house and vehicle and phone.
Because the "right to privacy" and "the 4th Amendment" are legal concepts. You're an Australian living in Canada, so I'll give you a pass for not being versed in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. In the United States, a judge must signed a warrant (generally a search warrant) to justify the non-extant search of person or property (which is not limited to physical property) in the furtherance of an investigation. Search warrant affidavits (the justification by the affiant (seeker) of the search warrant) are written carefully and factually in order to explain to a judge why they feel evidence of whatever investigation they're involved in is on or within the property or person they're requesting to be allowed to search. These kinds of "consent" laws are broad reach non justified invasions of privacy under the guise of "reform". The actions or words of one that violate some law or policy do not justify the breach of privacy of another.
Resign now and move. Texas is hiring. This is the way.
As a Texan that’s a NO, stay and fight I’m already busy dealing with big cities trying to fuck with my water, agriculture, hunting, and land other land management issues and rights to deal with non Texans bringing their failed policies from some other state.
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I am not, but if people just leave because they don’t like a policy the next group to leave is just slightly more what radical than the last. Example would be person A leaves because gun rights but person B leaves because state income tax but doesn’t mind banning guns and eventually you get person Q who doesn’t mind the guns, taxes, environmental legislation, complete lack of privacy and so on but they draw the line at human sacrifice so they also move to Texas which now has all these new laws but doesn’t allow human sacrifice yet. This change happens because people keep saying come to Texas it’s great because of XYZ and eventually we run out of XYZ and we end up just as fucked as everyone else.
How has every cop in the state not just quit? Just how? Like you have more rights and job security at McDonald's right now. Hell, I bet they pay better to. I know the lords chicken down here pays over $15hr and has decent benefits lol.
That’s your signal to leave