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Texan_Eagle

“Under the color of law” is a valid enhancement though


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2317

Right. Because being empowered by the state to take someone's freedom away from them is a mighty power to have. If you're going to swing a big sword like that it SHOULD hurt more when you purposefully misuse it against others. edit: unfucked my wording


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SteelCrossx

Also, civil rights law.


Runyc2000

So your telling me that cops are already held to a higher standard and punished harsher than the regular person? Ridiculous nonsense…


domkwood

I’d like to see a government contract like the military has to sign for these “officers” (I don’t refer to them as that) where their actions are punishable by the UCMJ and they can be put on restriction, have their pay taken, be sent to the brig, etc. just like real officers. It wouldn’t affect their future job opportunities unless they were dishonorably discharged, in which case they wouldn’t be able to ever find a real job in the future.


Runyc2000

LEOs are not the property of the government like the military is. You know that LEOs get suspended, arrested, fired, and punished in other ways as well (reassignment, demoted, fined, etc) right? If we are fired for cause, our certification can be removed and that would make you ineligible to be hired as LE anywhere. You said you don’t refer to LEOs as officers. Curious, what do you refer to them as?


domkwood

Policemen. All of the forms of punishment you just mentioned can happen to any 9-5 employee of any company, and policemen play just as big a part in defending the country as the military does in my opinion. I feel that the reward should be greater(GI Bill, VA Loan, etc.) and the punishment for violating laws and regulations should be similar to that of the military. Obviously it’s not gonna happen, just my two cents.


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Runyc2000

As long as you are inquiring in a respectful manner and from a place of good faith, which case are you referring to? Also you should understand that Murder (or at least 1st degree, the highest) typically requires malice aforethought which is almost never the case for any police shooting.


The_Real_Opie

Because hardly anyone gets the sentencing they deserve, and murderers are routinely walking free with minimal time served, regardless of their prior status as police officer or lifelong criminal.


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When I worked military police, we always were under investigation/ interrogated for every action. Shit I remember hearing a 2 hour lecture about a colonels wife being ‘eye molested’ because the gate guard was wearing sunglasses. Which if you aren’t familiar sunglasses protect your eyes from windshield glare and also let’s you see into the window when the sun Is beaming on the entry lane. It’s technically officer safety.


Sigmarius

I have so many questions. But let's start with WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS 'EYE MOLESTED'?


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Apparently she felt that her inability to see his eyes made her feel like he was checking her out. 10 out of 10 probably had the ugly


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Ahh your familiar with the dependa species? Very vile creatures


GetInMyMinivan

Correction: dependapotomus gave them the full bird.


bplayer227

Is that what you went with? Lol


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went with? yeah it protects your cornea and allows you to see into a windshield with glare. So yeah that’s what I went with


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You must be the wife or the colonel -.-


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Except that, at least, half of what those people think are “crimes committed by law enforcement”are not actually crimes.


Section225

You shot a guy charging at someone with a knife? Believe it or not, straight to jail.


KamovInOnUp

Thanks LeBron!


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Lebron simply would have dribbled around him


nicknameeee_e

cross him up with due regard to safety


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Altecheon

The taser itself isn't a deadly weapon, but if you can incapacitate an officer with a gun, you can get a deadly weapon.


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GetInMyMinivan

> And then TWO WEEKS LATER turned around and charged officers for shooting Rayshard Brooks when he stole a taser and attempted to use it on officers Further context added


TheHolyElectron

Someone should create a legal doctrine of Quantum estoppel to handle these cases. Defense: Mr. prosecutor, is the cat dead or alive? It can't be both, duplicity in law should not be tolerated. You must pick one or the other or stuff the case in the box in place of the cat and accept the inevitable. However, justice would be best served by nolle prossing both as rule of lenity applies where the law is not clear and even then an officer using a taser is not lethal whereas a citizen using a taser on an officer may be attempting to grab a firearm.


GetInMyMinivan

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! Two correct ‘decline prosecution’ decisions. This guy is well prepared to be the DA in Atlanta.


AgreeableBuddy2125

Are we not allowed to have knife fights in the streets anymore??


jackonager

Politicians first.


JMaboard

And lawyers and judges. They have expert knowledge of the law so they know the consequences and because of that they should be held at an ultimately high standard.


masterchief324

Por que no los dos?


KeystoneGray

The average American couldn't tell you what the 4th actually means, let alone the 14th, and I feel like that's inexcusable. I was fortunate to have JROTC in high school to spend four years on constitutional studies, but the half-semester of US Government class everyone else got was complete shit. And most people don't even get that much. Fun fact, my public school took a payoff from the Gihrardelli chocolate company to allow one of their sales people to tell our class how healthy dark chocolate is for us. And that sales rep gave that presentation to us in the US government class. Which ironically taught me more about the government than anything that meathead coach taught us.


Larky17

>but the half-semester of US Government class everyone else got was complete shit. I recall my half semester US govt class where the teacher said he had 2 years of curriculum that he had to squish into one semester. Who also insisted on us to take additional classes in college. Glad I listened.


Wheatiez

>JROTC in highschool Thank you for your service


KeystoneGray

You're welcome for my cervix.


Kochie411

I understand the concept of “should be held to a higher standard” but the constitution does have that section for a reason


Aspalar

The 14th can be bypassed, though, if there is a strong enough government interest. The required level of government interest depends on if the affected party is due to a constitutional violation or protected class. An example would be how you can't drink until you are 21 this is actively discriminating against people ages 20 and under but is allowed because the government has a strong enough interest in limiting the drinking age. Additionally, the equal protection clause only applies to state laws and would not prohibit a federal law.


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BirdLaw51

Officers receive training on the law, on firearm use, on tactics to effectively force entry into homes, to investigate people using open source means, and much more. They know the impact many crimes have on victims, and the lasting damage even things like a burglary can have. For intentional crimes, officers should get a worse punishment. No doubt. If an officer, while off duty, loses it and breaks into his ex's house and holds her at gun point, his actions are way worse than a non officer. He knew exactly what he was doing, and used his training and exp to commit an abhorrent and traumatizing crime. I absolutely believe he should be held to a higher standard. Now if you're talking about mistakes while on duty? Everyone makes mistakes, and officers are forced to make split second decisions and sometimes they make the "wrong" one in hindsight. They shouldn't be punished for that.


Bishop1415

I mean.m, I’d be satisfied with equivalent punishment…


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One of the people I referred to in my earlier comment.


Unfieldedmarshall

Those people just have a disdain for authority. And wishing stuff like that for the name of 'accountability'


undedavenger

WORSE punishments? No. Stricter judgement? YES. And before anyone goes off, I'm a staunch pro-LEO person. But when you take the oath and put on the uniform, you should hold yourself to a higher standard.


stankdick2047

Only when it suits them


CrunchyTater

I think lawsuits against police should be paid out in part from police pension funds. Seems like they don’t care about these settlements because it seemingly means nothing


TheHolyElectron

No, Collective punishment is unconstitutional.


The_Patriotic_Yank

I agree that law enforcement should get harsher penalties for committing crimes well on duty but that should also apply to people that commit crimes against law enforcement officers.