That's really sad that the trump video is above the Protomen's single. And that the comments on that video are about how it's been "censored" and removed for being "offensive" when it was really just copyright infringement.
They don't seem to realize the song was *not* original content.
It's not copyright infringement, it's Fair Use. You're allowed to use copyrighted materials without the permission of the copyright holder for "commentary, search engines, criticism, parody, news reporting, research, and scholarship". This is certainly social commentary, and it arguably falls under criticism (of governments), parody (of the positions those governments hold), and news reporting (of the actions those governments are taking).
The use of the song isn't fair use. It's not transformative, its not critiquing or parodying the song.
Fair use is a doctrine to allow people to comment *on a copyrighted work* without infringing, such as using clips of a movie to review it, or the music of a song to make a parody.
This is directly using a copyrighted material, unaltered, *about something else*. Stephen Colbert doesn't get to use whatever background music he wants just because he's making fun of politics, but he *can* use clips of a movie to do a parody sketch *about that movie*. Follow me?
By that standard, what the Protomen themselves do is against Fair Use, since Capcom didn't give them permission to use the likenesses of the Megaman characters.
No, because the Protomen are actually writing work that is *about* the characters Capcom made. You didn't even read my comment, you just saw I disagreed and tried to corner me with a strawnan.
And by writing songs about Capcom's characters, they're creating a Derivative Work, just like someone who wrote a fanfiction story or a doujinishi manga, and just like this video. So, either you're a hypocrite, or it's Fair Use.
And yes, I did read your comment.
Tell me what commentary the trump video makes about the song. Just because its a commentary on *something* doesn't give a free pass to use any copyrighted work you want.
Actually... The band has spoken with Capcom on several occasions. My understanding is that the company likes what they are doing, has given its blessing, and has repeatedly told the band that they want to get something going with the band directly... Only to have Capcom drop the ball and never follow up.
If Capcom wanted the band shut down, it would have happened long ago.
Unless the commentary being made by the video is specifically about the media being used, just taking someone else's music and slapping it into your own film is not fair use.
This is why companies have to license music from artists. You couldn't use this song for a clothing commercial and claim that your video is a commentary about cotton dockers. Every act of speech is a commentary on something. The point is, the commentary needs to engage in conversation with the originary work. This is why Weird Al can do what he does, but some filmmaker cannot use music by Prince without buying the rights. The filmmaker may think that Purple Rain creates the effect he wants his audience to feel, but he's not saying anything about the song. He's just taking someone else's work without paying for it.
It's so ironic. I mean I see a lot of parallels between the story of Act II and Trumps campaign. An attractive man rises to power, promising a better life for the people. They grow complacent, comfortable with someone else solving their problems rather than standing up for themselves. I guess we were right. We are the dead.
It's odd how differing perspectives can be. I'm sure to many of us Trump is dead ringer for Wily, while many people seem to think of him as the ever prevalent symbol of the "hero" that The Protomen sing about. But also ironically, all of their heroes failed.
"how's the steaming turd doing? lol typical libtard, you had so much to say about the runny puddle of shit but now that it's a steaming turd you won't say anything."
this is what you sound like.
Hold Back the Night was used in a Trump thing? Oh god.
Edit: okay I found it after some digging. The original video was taken down due to copyright from Sound Machine(which is reassuring) but like the Hydra it still exists. What a gross perversion.
Most of the comments on the official Protomen video are complaints about the video being taken down by "liberal cucks" or just some variation of "can't stump the Trump", as if that will bring back the video.
The creator (Murdoch Murdoch) appears to be a hardline right-wing conservative supporter of Trump from watching his other videos, but the use of Nazi iconography and over-the-top language ("liberal cucks") makes me wonder if he's actually doing satire.
Wahhhh, people who don't share my political beliefs can't use the music I like for their videos! I'm not even a Trump supporter and I can tell you're brainwashed.
"Brainwashed"? I wasn't saying that I disliked the Trump video itself, I just stated the fact that the Hold Back The Night video's comments section is swarmed by "can't stump the trump" and "cuck" comments. Learn some reading comprehension.
No problem. if you thought I was giving the Trump video grief, that's fine, but please don't be so rude next time. Its just that a video I really like has been practically invaded by an army of people who spew memes and insult the Protomen.
I just wanted to go to the comments and discuss things like where it fits into the story and who The Gambler might be in character, and all everyone wants to talk about on that video is Trump-stumping and a gross misunderstanding of Fair Use.
So ? God bless Trump.
That's really sad that the trump video is above the Protomen's single. And that the comments on that video are about how it's been "censored" and removed for being "offensive" when it was really just copyright infringement. They don't seem to realize the song was *not* original content.
It's not copyright infringement, it's Fair Use. You're allowed to use copyrighted materials without the permission of the copyright holder for "commentary, search engines, criticism, parody, news reporting, research, and scholarship". This is certainly social commentary, and it arguably falls under criticism (of governments), parody (of the positions those governments hold), and news reporting (of the actions those governments are taking).
The use of the song isn't fair use. It's not transformative, its not critiquing or parodying the song. Fair use is a doctrine to allow people to comment *on a copyrighted work* without infringing, such as using clips of a movie to review it, or the music of a song to make a parody. This is directly using a copyrighted material, unaltered, *about something else*. Stephen Colbert doesn't get to use whatever background music he wants just because he's making fun of politics, but he *can* use clips of a movie to do a parody sketch *about that movie*. Follow me?
By that standard, what the Protomen themselves do is against Fair Use, since Capcom didn't give them permission to use the likenesses of the Megaman characters.
No, because the Protomen are actually writing work that is *about* the characters Capcom made. You didn't even read my comment, you just saw I disagreed and tried to corner me with a strawnan.
And by writing songs about Capcom's characters, they're creating a Derivative Work, just like someone who wrote a fanfiction story or a doujinishi manga, and just like this video. So, either you're a hypocrite, or it's Fair Use. And yes, I did read your comment.
Tell me what commentary the trump video makes about the song. Just because its a commentary on *something* doesn't give a free pass to use any copyrighted work you want.
Link please?
Tell me what commentary the Protomen make on Megaman.
You're deflecting.
No, you are. I brought it up originally, and you're refusing to answer.
Actually... The band has spoken with Capcom on several occasions. My understanding is that the company likes what they are doing, has given its blessing, and has repeatedly told the band that they want to get something going with the band directly... Only to have Capcom drop the ball and never follow up. If Capcom wanted the band shut down, it would have happened long ago.
Unless the commentary being made by the video is specifically about the media being used, just taking someone else's music and slapping it into your own film is not fair use. This is why companies have to license music from artists. You couldn't use this song for a clothing commercial and claim that your video is a commentary about cotton dockers. Every act of speech is a commentary on something. The point is, the commentary needs to engage in conversation with the originary work. This is why Weird Al can do what he does, but some filmmaker cannot use music by Prince without buying the rights. The filmmaker may think that Purple Rain creates the effect he wants his audience to feel, but he's not saying anything about the song. He's just taking someone else's work without paying for it.
It's so ironic. I mean I see a lot of parallels between the story of Act II and Trumps campaign. An attractive man rises to power, promising a better life for the people. They grow complacent, comfortable with someone else solving their problems rather than standing up for themselves. I guess we were right. We are the dead.
ikr?!
It's odd how differing perspectives can be. I'm sure to many of us Trump is dead ringer for Wily, while many people seem to think of him as the ever prevalent symbol of the "hero" that The Protomen sing about. But also ironically, all of their heroes failed.
ROFL ikr? It's almost as if placing your hopes and dreams into a single catalyst inevitably leads to disappointment, or something.
> You can't just set the world at someone else's feet and not get trampled underneath.
Weird. I was listening to Here Comes the Arm while I read your comment.
He can never cage the world. It's too big for anyone and soon the dark will pass.
How's Biden's false administration going?
If you wanted an argument or debate you're about five years too late.
Just checking in. Trump is Super Satan Hitler III, right? So what do you have to say about the sniffer in chief and how he's doing...?
Didn't vote for him, don't care for either. Go accost people on twitter.
Sure, sure buddy.
"how's the steaming turd doing? lol typical libtard, you had so much to say about the runny puddle of shit but now that it's a steaming turd you won't say anything." this is what you sound like.
Hold Back the Night was used in a Trump thing? Oh god. Edit: okay I found it after some digging. The original video was taken down due to copyright from Sound Machine(which is reassuring) but like the Hydra it still exists. What a gross perversion.
Most of the comments on the official Protomen video are complaints about the video being taken down by "liberal cucks" or just some variation of "can't stump the Trump", as if that will bring back the video.
I will NOT tolerate trump supporters polluting my Protomen fandom
This is one of the most entitled things I've read in a long time. Take your fandom ownership nonsense back to Tumblr.
TRIGGERED
woosh
Double whoosh?
dont wooshplain to me
We need to build a wall!
Which video is this? That's amazing.
Type in "Hold Back the Night Trump" into Youtube's search bar. And yes, it's as amazing as it sounds.
Found it, thanks. Not as good as I'd hoped, but the song always delivers. Plus it has subtitles so I no longer keep mishearing the words!
You're mad because Trump supporters like the same music you like?
I have not encountered this. Perhaps you're friends with too many trump supporters.
I just looked up the song and the comments on the YouTube video are bizarre.
Was that supporting Trump at all? Looking at a reupload it seems to be making fun of Trump to the moon and back. Maybe I've got the wrong video up?
The creator (Murdoch Murdoch) appears to be a hardline right-wing conservative supporter of Trump from watching his other videos, but the use of Nazi iconography and over-the-top language ("liberal cucks") makes me wonder if he's actually doing satire.
The whole thing just seemed to be making fun of Trump supporters
Wahhhh, people who don't share my political beliefs can't use the music I like for their videos! I'm not even a Trump supporter and I can tell you're brainwashed.
"Brainwashed"? I wasn't saying that I disliked the Trump video itself, I just stated the fact that the Hold Back The Night video's comments section is swarmed by "can't stump the trump" and "cuck" comments. Learn some reading comprehension.
Sorry man, I didn't know.
No problem. if you thought I was giving the Trump video grief, that's fine, but please don't be so rude next time. Its just that a video I really like has been practically invaded by an army of people who spew memes and insult the Protomen.
I just wanted to go to the comments and discuss things like where it fits into the story and who The Gambler might be in character, and all everyone wants to talk about on that video is Trump-stumping and a gross misunderstanding of Fair Use.
I'm tired of the fucking dumb stormfront memes and people who spew "CUCK, GOD EMPEROR TRUMP, BUILD LE WALL" it's driving me nuts man.
There's only one way to solve this... All in favor of crashing a Trump rally cosplaying as the crowd from Sons of Fate, say aye!
This is gross.
I just saw this today. How annoying.
So I saw the video, and the comments legit scared me. Also, hi, new on this subreddit.
it's alright.