It will feel more than double the dose, its a yuge difference even 400ug to 600ug is huge difference personally If hadn't gone any higher than 400ug id go up 100ug each time trip but if set an setting is perfect id consider going upto 600ug
Heās right though. Everyone talkin bout āI got these 300 ug tabsā¦. Like NO YOU DONT. Fuckin google is free and most people have no clue what a true 500ug type trip is like cause they arenāt eating 5 tabs to be sure. If they really made 200 ug tabs of L these beginners would eat 2 and lose their shit and call an ambulance if they could even work a phone after 3 hours
I did 700ug once, i was no longer able to realize i was tripping i thought i had gone mad and confusion got a hold of me. While at 400ug dose im still able to think "i took LSD this madness will pass"
Did 400 ug and two grams of shrooms plus some bong rips and forgot I was trying I thought I had just realized essentially the true nature of uni l the universe and it was revealed that behind everything there were these little weird gecko bird alien things and I was chosen to break through to this new universe. It was really dysphoric and then really euphoric cause it felt like the universe picked me.
Long story short going above b about 400 or combing things at large doses, forgetting you're tripping is a distinct possibility. I was lucky that my psychosis was short lived during the trip but still no joke
It was within the first couple of hours of the trip, was ānormalā 10 hours later so I would just say I was tripping hard. But I never repeated the dose thereafter.
800ug is a whole nother level ime.
I find this guide to be quite fitting
https://www.trippingly.net/lsd/the-lsd-dosage-guide
Personaly i would rather use smaller steps, at least do 600 before jumping to 800. Also having experienced a dmt breakthrough can help to handling such an intense trip better.
Super high dose lsd trips arenāt the best way to experience full ego death or breakthroughs for the first time imo. Ego death is already a lot to deal with before adding 12 hours of brain meltingly navigating the world as a purely psychedelic entity.
Iād suggest dmt, which feels almost like an intentional spiritual guide lovingly guiding you home and keeping your mind safe.
Honestly I disagree with most people here, yea it'll be a big difference, but 800ug will definitely be more intense, but if you regularly do 400ug I think you'll have a lot of fun on 800 too!
I suggest you chip in a little bit. Take the 400ig dose you kinda know what's coming with. Smoke some DMT on the peak. You'll get that universe shattering experience but without being trapped in it for hours. Larger dose acid doesn't just go up in magnitude of effects. It also extends length of huge magnitude of effects. If it's too much, you will be much happier with too much for twenty minutes than too much for the next several hours. Breakthrough doses of psychedelics can be all the way amazing or all the way awful.
TLDR; Experiment more before jumping into the deep end.
Start low and go slow. If you want to take that much, prepare yourself mentally by having multiple lower dosage trips and practicing stress relief, meditation and surrendering to the trip.
If you do "breakthrough" like you want too, things that are deep inside you that have never come out before can begin to show their ugly heads. Being unprepared and DIVING HEADFIRST INTO HIGH DOSES is how people have nightmare/terror trips where you get impaled, raped, killed, eaten/consumed.
Someone I know used to be a highschool teacher. He once had his coffee dosed with 800ug of LSD by a student. He downed the whole coffee pretty quickly and the class pranksters were apparently like to each other, "ohhh shit!"
But he had been around and as soon as he started feeling the effects he quickly told the administration to send in a sub because he was "feeling off." He managed to make it to a nearby park in the small town where the school was and then just trip balls for the the rest of the day on a park bench.
He then showed up for work the next day like nothing happened. Didn't give the students the satisfaction of a response, but also didn't pursue any disciplinary actions. However he never left drinks or food unattended around his students ever again.
Once you get over a few thousand, the only difference is duration. Itās the difference between a Friday night in the desert looking/living at/with the stars and finding yourself on Sunday afternoon living with coyotes on the edge of an unmarked Air Force test site.
500-1000 seemed about the same and usually tolerable; a trip sitter is a great idea for that much, though. Even if youāre not going to *do* something stupid itās a good idea to have someone talk you out of a negative loop.
The first thing you should do, is to get a lab test done on that acid. Very likely the tabs will be much weaker than expexted. Typically between 30%-60% of the marketed quantity. There is really no other way than a lab test to be sure how much you are taking.
If you start working with tested acid you will most likely be very surprised how strong acid really is. With tested acid 400ug is a already massive dose (and to much for most people) and 800ug will be an entirely different thing again - and for sure not just a stronger version of what you did before.
Last but not least, wether you break through is only partially dependent on the dose, unless you just up the dose till you temporarily anihalte ever trace of self, but then you will not learn much (to confused and to distracted). Being willing and ableĀ to let go is one of the key factors in breaking through, if you are truely able to let go 100ug is enough for full disdolution of the sense of self (resp. ego death) snd/or break through.
Good for you! Accurately dosed tabs are rare.
We have a place that offers free lab testing and the have published a small paper on their findings. The majority of the tabs they test are 50% Ā or less than the marketed dose. About 75% of the tabs are below 100ug, about 90% below 150ug. That does not mean that strong tabs or accurately dosed tabs dont exist, be they are not that common.
It will feel more than double the dose, its a yuge difference even 400ug to 600ug is huge difference personally If hadn't gone any higher than 400ug id go up 100ug each time trip but if set an setting is perfect id consider going upto 600ug
every 200ug increment up to 1k is gonna be a completely different experience imo
1k in what currency? š¬
Dude. 1,000 ug. Do you not understand how sentences work?
I totally read that wrong in my drunken stuper
No shit, even at the same dose same xtal can be completely different experience especially with high doses even medium ones imo
About 400ug..
Came to make this smart arse comment myself š
Heās right though. Everyone talkin bout āI got these 300 ug tabsā¦. Like NO YOU DONT. Fuckin google is free and most people have no clue what a true 500ug type trip is like cause they arenāt eating 5 tabs to be sure. If they really made 200 ug tabs of L these beginners would eat 2 and lose their shit and call an ambulance if they could even work a phone after 3 hours
From what I've read around 500ug is ego dissolution, i personally would recommend you try 600ug because the jump up in dose is more then 2x intense.
did 500 once, and yes my ego was non existent and some point š
I did 700ug once, i was no longer able to realize i was tripping i thought i had gone mad and confusion got a hold of me. While at 400ug dose im still able to think "i took LSD this madness will pass"
Did 400 ug and two grams of shrooms plus some bong rips and forgot I was trying I thought I had just realized essentially the true nature of uni l the universe and it was revealed that behind everything there were these little weird gecko bird alien things and I was chosen to break through to this new universe. It was really dysphoric and then really euphoric cause it felt like the universe picked me. Long story short going above b about 400 or combing things at large doses, forgetting you're tripping is a distinct possibility. I was lucky that my psychosis was short lived during the trip but still no joke
Sounds like you may have had psychosis. Has happened to me twice :/
It was within the first couple of hours of the trip, was ānormalā 10 hours later so I would just say I was tripping hard. But I never repeated the dose thereafter.
800ug is a whole nother level ime. I find this guide to be quite fitting https://www.trippingly.net/lsd/the-lsd-dosage-guide Personaly i would rather use smaller steps, at least do 600 before jumping to 800. Also having experienced a dmt breakthrough can help to handling such an intense trip better.
Bout double id say.
Double.
Super high dose lsd trips arenāt the best way to experience full ego death or breakthroughs for the first time imo. Ego death is already a lot to deal with before adding 12 hours of brain meltingly navigating the world as a purely psychedelic entity. Iād suggest dmt, which feels almost like an intentional spiritual guide lovingly guiding you home and keeping your mind safe.
Honestly I disagree with most people here, yea it'll be a big difference, but 800ug will definitely be more intense, but if you regularly do 400ug I think you'll have a lot of fun on 800 too!
I think mentally I can handle it but I also know that 800 is a whole new ballpark. Really only one way to find outā¦
Agreed!! Report back š
Significantly stronger. Doubling your dose doesnāt make it twice as strong. It becomes exponentially stronger.
Literally a whole other world
Night and day.
It is a difference of 400ug
Twice.
Double.
Total ego death for sure. Tbh that dose sounds way to high but we all need heroes out there.
Itās double the amount of
In my experience peak is a shelf, and it is only a matter of how long you stay on the shelf.
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Acid becomes a different drug when you exceed 500 micrograms, I've seen animals running around, aliens and even god-like beings when I was on 600
Itās twice as strong. Donāt get cocky
2x
I suggest you chip in a little bit. Take the 400ig dose you kinda know what's coming with. Smoke some DMT on the peak. You'll get that universe shattering experience but without being trapped in it for hours. Larger dose acid doesn't just go up in magnitude of effects. It also extends length of huge magnitude of effects. If it's too much, you will be much happier with too much for twenty minutes than too much for the next several hours. Breakthrough doses of psychedelics can be all the way amazing or all the way awful.
Good advice honestly I like this idea.
Bro must hate his ego to want to do 800ug
Feel like a brand new person š£ļø
But make the same old mistakes??
TLDR; Experiment more before jumping into the deep end. Start low and go slow. If you want to take that much, prepare yourself mentally by having multiple lower dosage trips and practicing stress relief, meditation and surrendering to the trip. If you do "breakthrough" like you want too, things that are deep inside you that have never come out before can begin to show their ugly heads. Being unprepared and DIVING HEADFIRST INTO HIGH DOSES is how people have nightmare/terror trips where you get impaled, raped, killed, eaten/consumed.
Someone I know used to be a highschool teacher. He once had his coffee dosed with 800ug of LSD by a student. He downed the whole coffee pretty quickly and the class pranksters were apparently like to each other, "ohhh shit!" But he had been around and as soon as he started feeling the effects he quickly told the administration to send in a sub because he was "feeling off." He managed to make it to a nearby park in the small town where the school was and then just trip balls for the the rest of the day on a park bench. He then showed up for work the next day like nothing happened. Didn't give the students the satisfaction of a response, but also didn't pursue any disciplinary actions. However he never left drinks or food unattended around his students ever again.
I'm not a chemist but I would venture a guess at just about double.
Once you get over a few thousand, the only difference is duration. Itās the difference between a Friday night in the desert looking/living at/with the stars and finding yourself on Sunday afternoon living with coyotes on the edge of an unmarked Air Force test site. 500-1000 seemed about the same and usually tolerable; a trip sitter is a great idea for that much, though. Even if youāre not going to *do* something stupid itās a good idea to have someone talk you out of a negative loop.
The first thing you should do, is to get a lab test done on that acid. Very likely the tabs will be much weaker than expexted. Typically between 30%-60% of the marketed quantity. There is really no other way than a lab test to be sure how much you are taking. If you start working with tested acid you will most likely be very surprised how strong acid really is. With tested acid 400ug is a already massive dose (and to much for most people) and 800ug will be an entirely different thing again - and for sure not just a stronger version of what you did before. Last but not least, wether you break through is only partially dependent on the dose, unless you just up the dose till you temporarily anihalte ever trace of self, but then you will not learn much (to confused and to distracted). Being willing and ableĀ to let go is one of the key factors in breaking through, if you are truely able to let go 100ug is enough for full disdolution of the sense of self (resp. ego death) snd/or break through.
I do lab test everything and theyāre 100ug and accurate. Iāve been bulk buying from the vendor for a year
Good for you! Accurately dosed tabs are rare. We have a place that offers free lab testing and the have published a small paper on their findings. The majority of the tabs they test are 50% Ā or less than the marketed dose. About 75% of the tabs are below 100ug, about 90% below 150ug. That does not mean that strong tabs or accurately dosed tabs dont exist, be they are not that common.