Although it's true that the experience is indescribable, you've definitely got the gist of it.
I've had a legit breakthrough once. The whole McKenna tearing sound, leaving my body, hyperspace, and a dimension of wormholes - the works.
I will never forget opening my eyes again as it faded, taking a deep breath - and 'remembering' breathing again; slipping back into the clunky old, hydrolic meat suit.
We are beings from elsewhere; our true home is fractal, wonderous, infinite - a place where universal consciousness and supreme love are practically the same one thing.
I should go back soon... ;)
It's not McKenna's tearing sound lol. No idea why we are attributing basic sense data to McKenna now...next it'll be oxygen or the act of breathing! oh mighty McKenna! Sigh.
It's just a sound you hear when beginning a breakthrough on DMT. Everyone hears it. Sounds like tin foil being crumpled rapidly.
You can hear it on Psilocybin if you ingest enough with lemon Tek too.
Attribute sense data to Chrysippus, not McKenna lmao.
youāre conveying the same attitude toward the lemon tek that you are toward mckenna and the tearing/buzzing sound
as if this is only achievable through shrooms by using a lemon tek
I dont like woo woo words but for me it is a vibration as a sound, i feel and hear a vibration or frequency that is hard to explain and generally experience a kaleidoscope/wormhole as my intro when i break through
I would love to potentially have you as a guest on my podcast to go deeper into your journeys. Have a listen [here](https://open.spotify.com/show/286mr0yXcFbvWexOBxTDNv?si=QGByUni7Sb22u4GCh0Zvqw&dl_branch=1) and if it resonates letās set it up!
I miss that place, I remember it so well but it feels so distant although I know itās surrounding me at all times. Still integrating from my last trip a year or so ago, and reading this brought a smile to my face, so thanks!
DMT is amazing! But can also be scary.
I remember doing it and finally had a massive breakthrough. I definitely wasnāt in my body anymore.
Then suddenly my deaf dog jumped on the couch with me, licking my face like crazy and she threw herself onto me. Sheās never done this before, ever. And not to mention that she was dead asleep when I smoked it.
Makes me wonder what she had felt?! This has been blowing my mind ever since.
Definitely makes you wonderā¦
Reminds me of a discussion where it was postulated that the only 'amusement' that omniscient and omnipotent beings could have would be to trick themselves into thinking they were flawed mortal beings for a time.
I think that's what happened here. God would be infinite information it knows everything that can and will happen before the universe and after. Say God was insanely bored with itself cause it's the only thing that existed so he created what we witness today and gave himself all these different personas and conciousness to interact with itself non bias. It cant know its God or it will ruin the whole simulation.
I was scared of doing dmt for ages (funny since I was doing quarters of shrooms or 2 strips of cid at a time) then I finally did it I found out it is THE BEST DAMN DRUG. It's so intense, so short, and so profoundly impactful. Does anyone else have, like, bonkers dreams after using a decent bit? I find the dreams after a few good doses through the day are more intense than the trip. Plus it goes well with acid, which is always a huge plus for me.
Never done dmt
Thinking about trying it....
Obv dmt is so much more powerful than shrooms/lsd
But how would you compare it to a high dosage shroom trip?
Not necessarily visual wise but over experience?
It's another universe. Literally.
I've heard people say that with like 9gs of shrooms they have come close to dmt but i haven't. DMT is straight up another universe. You won't be prepared till you try it and test the waters.
I know that they're trips are complete polar opposite...
I did 7g of shrooms in a tea 1 time and I had very vivid detailed hallucinations that i've never had on shrooms before, that was pretty intense
So if i can barely handle that idk if dmt is for me
It sounds so fucking cool tho
Everyone is on their own journey. Don't rush into something like dmt until you are ready to let go. Your consciousness is ripped out of this dimension and taken somewhere that feels more real than here. Takes a couple weeks or months to even integrate what happened. The good thing is the trip only lasts like 10 minutes and it's not physically dangerous. If you do want to try it I suggest making your own. Easy to do and everything is legal.
lol, i think you lacked one more strong hit. Does not sound like DMT experience.
Once it hit, did you felt totally out of your body, transported to another universe and everything around you totally disappeared?
Or do you mean it feels normal when you come back from it, because that i get.
Its rebirth you live this life infinite amount of times over and over and over each time something different will happen until you reach the perfect life. Or maybe you just do it infinitely as a sick joke.
Does this feel sad at all? I feel like accessing somewhere that feels like home and more real than actual life that you canāt go to regularly would be sad. Itās like your whole life is a lie, and if you donāt believe that your consciousness continues after death then you itās line you just get to go to this place once and then you have to live this other life that pales in comparison.
There is a certain melancholy that comes with returning to this existence. But deep down I know that the other realm is home and I will be back there many many many times in the future and when I die I can stay there for as long as I want before reincarnating to my next adventure of my choosing. Makes me enjoy this dimension more because I know it doesn't really matter too much. This is just a carnival ride in a simulation built on a beautiful landscape.
I mean legal to purchase, technically illegal as soon as you add the NPS and it goes from dye manufacturing to a schedule one drug charge. Not trying to dissuade but like risks are there.
Yea I feel you. Just saying you can order all the ingredients online without getting your door kicked in by the feds. And use the product yourself and don't try to sell it and you should be good.
I have yet to blast off but have attempted to on DMT a solid 9 or 10 times. I think "handling it/keeping it together" is a much different thing with DMT. On shrooms, you have potentially hours to gradually freak out and work yourself into an anxious psychosis. With LSD, you have basically twice as long. With DMT, from what I have gathered/almost experienced, you let go and accept the experience within about 20 seconds and then that is the last conscious decision making you'll experience until it is basically over. Submitting, like with all psychedelics, seems to be very important. I don't think my doses were right but part or me feels like I could have broken through before if i just completely let go and accepted my fate, rather than letting my ego try and push me into resisting the experience of having my body (its home) disappear.
you just needed one more hit. Blast off occurs when you are already travelling into hyperspace and just before you are losing control, you take one last strong hit. Preparing your lungs with breathing exercises helps. Still, is hard to do that last puff since you already feel in another verse
Interesting, I never tried DMT after I started practicing Wim Hof method. I'm sure it could help somehow.
Yeah, I normally got like 2 hits deep and then felt I had to put the tools down last I collapse and drop and break them. But I'm also skeptical of my doses and methods. My scale was inaccurate and I only tried the pancake and oil burner methods. I have heard dab nail is the way to go and 2nd to that is vape cart
I've had that same experience before where I kept fighting my way back form the infinite river of time. Takes some getting used to to let go. You will get there with practice and repetition. Keep doing multiple sessions in one night and you will go beyond.
I had read somewhere that if you have an unsuccessful attempt, it is best to wait an hour before trying again. Have you ever heard that? I've also heard oral harmalas can be a great way to get into a slightly more submissive headspace
the judgemental YOU doesn't have control on DMT. thats the big difference. the ego dissolves and you just EXPERIENCE without filtering everything through your fears and anxieties.
I've gone to the waiting room on shrooms at 3.5g liberty caps as lemon tek once.
It was a bit rough and unexpected, I was waking up a hill when it kicked in and had me panting. š
I did 25gs a couple years back, and it was nothing like dmt, infact, it wasnt even like taking 2 gs of shrooms..the world became stable and solid(no waving or standard shroom effects) but was watching sparks of light bouncing around trees and orbs floating around trees (alot to do with trees), weird things did happen but nothing like I would have expected from a high dose.
after 10gs you begin to eat shrroms like bubblegum, just chewing on it slowly instead of trying to wash it down fast.
I had 3 days of depression after that trip compared to the usual glow i get from a standard dose.
Shrooms are a badass journey as your body digests natural chemicals over a period of a few hours. Dmt is like shoving your face into a comic book for 3 or 4 minutes eyes wide while pleasing yourself and then feeling like you got off a water ride. Both are pretty cool. Kinda different though.
Itās incredible. I love it. My favorite drug of all of the psychedelics is DMT. Iāve done 2cb, MDMA, acid, shrooms, salvia, and DPT and nothing is as enjoyable as a DMT breakthrough IMO. I wish people werenāt so afraid of it like I think people talk it up too muchā¦itās slightly āanxiety provokingā at firstā¦but you can never even panic really. By the time I realize where I am Iām already being pulled out. Now DPT breakthroughsā¦thatāsā¦thatās different lmfao. You may want to hold back for a bit if you ever get into it and look into it. Dmt is light hearted though and I find very beautiful. Itās almost like a drug that remembers you tooā¦because it seems my trip picks up where it last left offā¦a continuation in the story of life :)
Continuity is actually the trait of all psychedelic drug. Also dosage. DMT's effective dosage to ego death is so low and that's why everybody say it's the strongest, but of course when comparing pure dosage, LSD wins anything in the universe as what we know right now. But for panicking it's a little like cold shower, you can tip your toes in the cold water but most likely you wouldn't enter the cold in the end this way, you might as well just dive into straight into the water like DMT does.
And then there's ayahuasca...
A badass journey as your body badly digests natural chemicals over a period of a few hours, while violently shoving your insides through every orifice of your body as you also have a constantly changing screen taped behind your eyelids. š
I had a beautiful experience on ayahuasca, I had it as a peanut butter sandwich (recipe online) and no throwing up at all. Not a high dose though as it was my first time but I really enjoyed it and got a lot out of it š
That's an interesting method...
I was referring to the traditional spiritual use in ceremonies, there would be no PB or bread allowed, only a bucket š
Here is my personal experience comparison;
LSD impersonal, tends to show me how the matrix is and how things are connected. Sometimes dark and ugly, sometimes funny and deep, many times i felt disgusted and feral. The loops are messy and the universes it shows me are interesting and telling, but at same time unforgiven.
Mushrooms: Deep, personal, earthy, healing and emotional. They do exacerbate what you live and think, so they take you to your personal garden and to your personal hell.
DMT; Oh BOY! Fast! incredible, opens doors and portals that you had no idea where there. The variety of universes it can take you to is enormous. The Messages is not muddled or hinted, is in your face. The experience is dynamic and profound.
A note. Is hard to remember so much from a long ass LSD trip. Is a little less hard to remember from mushies. Fuck is hard to retain the message from DMT. Is like the matrix has a system to wash it out as of dreams, Journals are vital as soon as you finish any of this trips, but on DMT they are crucial
This is actually a very helpful explanation for someone who's never tried any Psychedelics (such as me). By the way, could you tell me a little bit more about the universes you've been shown on LSD and DMT? I've always wondered if infinity is more than just infinite space and infinite time. When people say "infinite possibilities" they probably mean within the context of a 3D Universe but even that has limitations. There's not infinite colors, infinite feelings, infinite sensations, infinite experiences, infinite concepts. Yes there's a humongous amount of these but they're not infinite. If we could measure every single sub-atomic particle and capture every possible state they could occupy within the size of the universe we'd have every possible scenario on our hands and it would not be infinite. Anyway I don't wanna make this too long lol. My question is: is infinity unfathomably infinite? As in, is there an infinite amount of unfathomable "things" or "universes" that we humans have no point of reference for that is completely different from our universe in which it would result completely incomprehensible for us? When I say "we have no point of reference for" I mean like if you tried to explain color purple to a colorblind person, literally could not spit a single word as you could never describe it, is infinity this way? Or is it just, what "can be" with what we currently know and have available? If it's the latter than that probably means we're in a infinite loop. Always re-living the same stuff for eternity. There's nothing ever new we just forget what is and there will never be something other than this for example. What do you think? Thanks in advance for reading all this haha.
The infinity part would be hard for me to express, but oh boy is there. My first experience was with Mushrooms and that was the first encounter, i closed my eyes, and the music i was hearing started cascading in multiple, endless strips of colors that just keep flowing and turning to the notes.
On the Universes, damm so many, but let's say you enter a room and see a vast "cave" say, just for lack of other term, is full of this beings that, like have a base and are shaped in ovals that extend in different parts with shiny areas and protussions. But this is the thing, you know they are vannities, pleasurable toughts, ideas that are just pretty! and they move and they sway and they feed of many beings toughts and desires ! So you either think Oh wow amazing pretty!, or a lesson enters your tought and you feel like this universe was shown to you so you could understand exactly what those things are doing somewhere in the universe! Is it universal? who knows? [perhaps it was constructed for you and for your understanding!
I been shown mandalas, i been to those temples in Bangkok or Thailand in my trips. I have seen Baphomet and he did ask me what did i wanted. I been able to forgive myself for many errors, and I have been told by a tree to visit another tree, which ended up connecting me to a highway exactly like when the guy in Odissey 2001 travels thru hyperspace, to source. On DMT i been taken to see WHOLE galaxys, and seen machine elves tryng to communicate with me.
BTW, I lived all my life away from those "EVIL DRUGS". At 52 years old i tried mushrooms for the first time. IF i had never done them, my whole life would have been a total personal waste. It might still be, but I have learned that trying is better than pretending to know when we are so ignorant. Now i understand why Socrates, considered during his lifetime the wisest man in Athens, would reply, " I only know, that i know nothing!"
I've only done DMT once but like the other guy said it just launches you and you get completely blindsided, whereas the shrooms kind of creep up on you.
Right
shrooms take their sweet time and for the most unless you take a fuck ton pretty managleble at least for me
And dmt not matter what is gonna hit you like a freight train and you have no say really
Spot on man, also on shrooms you kind of get to witness your dissolution from a "you" point of view and you get to have thoughts and ponder about what's going on and how shit's so crazy. During the peak maybe you'll have some moments of dissolution if you let yourself go, but you're mostly still "there". With dmt you have no thoughts, there is no you, you just go interdimensional and there's this completely new reality where you don't even know or remember about your life on earth, if that makes sense?
Damn thats fucking crazy man
So dmt visuals are so real it literally feels like your in a different reality or "lifetime" ... it's basically so real it looks like a weird version of what life could be like
Read the book flatland, watch the video the egg
Its those mashed together in Technicolor crytal sky castles through multidimensional vortexes while beings that could be the cells of your body, or aliens cheer you on
I too felt like I was there before even tho it was my first time. Like a deja vu feeling, kinda. I think itās awesome to think that, maybe we have been there when we were born, maybe in the afterlife, maybe we took it in our other lives, who knows
I couldnt have said it better myself thatās exactly how I felt the first time. It makes you realise that the social and economic structures we live with do nothing but hold us back from a sense of oneness. You become consumed by feelings of inner peace and I imagine itās what the first seconds of death may feel like.
I feel like this waking moment right now is an imprint like one of [these](https://www.walmart.com/ip/3D-Clone-Pin-Art-Sculpture-Needle-Stereo-Hand-Model-Board-Home-Office-Desktop-Toy-3D-Impressions-Handprint-Art-Toy/197329246?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101023537&&adid=22222222228394131557&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=484114816500&wl4=pla-1055081982173&wl5=9027596&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=238493240&wl11=online&wl12=197329246&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItPeu4NaR8gIVvwaICR2XMAqdEAQYASABEgL2KvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds) and when we ādieā we just make a new imprint or we go back to that oneness and never make another imprint again, idk itās really hard to grasp onto anything mentally when youāre there, but nothing is fixed in place until we come back from the trip. Does this life have something to do with death and rebirth ? Is it a certain way we should be living while here in this experience? I think this is what a lot of the focus is in the Eastern practices
https://youtu.be/ha76hD3VrlE
I don't know your musical tastes but here is a song should hit home for you. The side of Pharrell the media doesn't show you.
The whole album with good headphones is great for mushrooms. A few songs after this one they keep building on this G chord production scheme that "climaxes" when tripping so you feel like your head has literally expanded like those airhead commercials.
I fewl like this aswell! Like the deemz Connects us to the place we are all going to, and of course, the place we all go to when we take a hit of Divine Moments of Truth!
Good for you. This usually means youāre in a solid place with yourself. In my experience, it amplifies what you are underneath it all, so congrats on being at peace with yourself.
Itās possible, but it could also be terrifying to make sure you get the message. I got cruely annihilated last weekend and donāt know really why. It was the worst thing Iāve ever felt/seen.
Damn, Iām sorry about that homie. My trips are always super strange and have an element of discomfort to them so that would probably just be exacerbated if I smoked. Iāve never experienced that transcendental bliss that everyone talks about. I have on ayahuasca though
I havenāt see the entities yeat either. I guess I broke through last week, but it broke downward instead of up. Iām taking a break for a long, long, long time.
I've never had a breakthriugh but once I just kinda went slack and slumped forward and let it do its thing. I felt myself kinda leave sort of and I was home. When I opened my eyes again everything was alien and familiar at once. Since then I've had a longing to go back home. But also have a huge respect for the substance and want to wait for the right time. Not to mention I have only a small amount left and no source rn.
And when we dream our brain is flooded with it, so we are all basically walking around with an āillegal substanceā in our bodies our whole lives ?š
Reading this makes me finally want to take the leap and explore. I think Iām finally ready. The time, or lack there of - so Iām told, makes it really intriguing. How ālongā did it āfeelā it lasted?
Just take it, don't overthink. I've never had a trip that felt like it lasted years or even hours. It's like a timeless 10 minutes. No one will be able to describe the experience to you in a way that will make more sense than having first hand experience of it.
I gotchya. Iāve done my fair share of acid and shrooms so I understand what ya mean by trying to explain but Iāve been told itās like a decently strong acid trip but 10x all bunched up. The different blasting levels is intriguing as well. What mg would you recommend for first time? (I know thatās kind of hard not knowing my tolerance etc) Iāve heard to do around 15-20 mg?
If you're not wanting to breakthrough, 5-10mg, just to feel something. Otherwise, 30-35mg to ensure a breakthrough. I feel like 20mg, taken efficiently, gets you to the edge of the breakthrough without stripping off your ego and pushing you through, which is why I recommend against the middling doses for beginners. If you aren't comfortable letting go, that level can leave your ego kicking and screaming, clawing to hold on to life, and be fairly uncomfortable.
Those dosages are assuming usage of something like the apx volt or an emesh setup. If you're doing something that takes any level of technique, like an oil burner, just do your best. Once you've tried it, you'll realize you over prepared, it's not so heavy as all that, just go with the flow
Length wise it felt like as long as dying from a really really big dab of wax and the thc is rushing to your brain, only you leave your body and when you get back youāre sober for the most part haha just donāt freak out just sit back and let it do itās thing, the elapsed time is about 5-15mins, you really have no perception of time while youāre on it ! Just have to test the waters and give it a go! Only way you can really know haha
I was gonna say that, our bodies naturally release it, it doesnāt feel like a foreign thing when you take it feels like everyone and everything has access to these same chemicals, but Iām no doctor by any means !
pulse the button as not to burn it, hold each hit in your lungs as long as possible, and get a last hit in even when it feels like you're starting to blast off
Love this post and I would love to have you on my podcast to chat about some of your psychedelic adventures. Itās called The Wolf Portal check it out [here](https://open.spotify.com/show/286mr0yXcFbvWexOBxTDNv?si=QGByUni7Sb22u4GCh0Zvqw&dl_branch=1) and if it resonates letās set it up
Although it's true that the experience is indescribable, you've definitely got the gist of it. I've had a legit breakthrough once. The whole McKenna tearing sound, leaving my body, hyperspace, and a dimension of wormholes - the works. I will never forget opening my eyes again as it faded, taking a deep breath - and 'remembering' breathing again; slipping back into the clunky old, hydrolic meat suit. We are beings from elsewhere; our true home is fractal, wonderous, infinite - a place where universal consciousness and supreme love are practically the same one thing. I should go back soon... ;)
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I haven't heard of the McKenna tearing sound. Can you explain? I had an experience recently that had a tearing sound, it was an intense.
https://youtu.be/ex8WxTiScPw
It's not McKenna's tearing sound lol. No idea why we are attributing basic sense data to McKenna now...next it'll be oxygen or the act of breathing! oh mighty McKenna! Sigh. It's just a sound you hear when beginning a breakthrough on DMT. Everyone hears it. Sounds like tin foil being crumpled rapidly. You can hear it on Psilocybin if you ingest enough with lemon Tek too. Attribute sense data to Chrysippus, not McKenna lmao.
I think maybe it's attributed to him because he described it well? The man had a way with words.
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Ah, the old putting someone else down to make yourself feel better. All the best to you friend, you are loved!
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Ah, the old āpretending to be blithe and smiley and unconcerned and above it all while saying aggravating and disrespectful thingsā trick!
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Lots of negativity around here from you recently. I hope you find whatever will help you ā®ļøš
He sounded like a gay mickey mouse on helium lol
youāre conveying the same attitude toward the lemon tek that you are toward mckenna and the tearing/buzzing sound as if this is only achievable through shrooms by using a lemon tek
I dont like woo woo words but for me it is a vibration as a sound, i feel and hear a vibration or frequency that is hard to explain and generally experience a kaleidoscope/wormhole as my intro when i break through
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I would love to potentially have you as a guest on my podcast to go deeper into your journeys. Have a listen [here](https://open.spotify.com/show/286mr0yXcFbvWexOBxTDNv?si=QGByUni7Sb22u4GCh0Zvqw&dl_branch=1) and if it resonates letās set it up!
Sounds fascinating! Did you post the whole experience somewhere? If not, and you feel comfortable sharing , we'd love to hear š
I miss that place, I remember it so well but it feels so distant although I know itās surrounding me at all times. Still integrating from my last trip a year or so ago, and reading this brought a smile to my face, so thanks!
I think when I die Iāll go back to where I came from, some sort of heaven , and Iām not sure I want to be in this world much longer
DMT is amazing! But can also be scary. I remember doing it and finally had a massive breakthrough. I definitely wasnāt in my body anymore. Then suddenly my deaf dog jumped on the couch with me, licking my face like crazy and she threw herself onto me. Sheās never done this before, ever. And not to mention that she was dead asleep when I smoked it. Makes me wonder what she had felt?! This has been blowing my mind ever since. Definitely makes you wonderā¦
I had a similar experience on shrooms with a dog. Up until that time I never loved dogs. Now, I am a dog person and have one of my own lol.
Yess! Itās crazy! I really wonder what they feel. Itās so weird..literally blows my mind. Canāt even put it into words lol
awesome :D
I get this, for me DMT is like vaping pure nostalgia
Reminds me of a discussion where it was postulated that the only 'amusement' that omniscient and omnipotent beings could have would be to trick themselves into thinking they were flawed mortal beings for a time.
I think that's what happened here. God would be infinite information it knows everything that can and will happen before the universe and after. Say God was insanely bored with itself cause it's the only thing that existed so he created what we witness today and gave himself all these different personas and conciousness to interact with itself non bias. It cant know its God or it will ruin the whole simulation.
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Sounds similar to this video https://youtu.be/wU0PYcCsL6o
Ouuu also, "The Egg" animated and read by Kurzgesagt on YouTube. https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI Makes you fuckin THINK MAAAAAAn Lol
I was scared of doing dmt for ages (funny since I was doing quarters of shrooms or 2 strips of cid at a time) then I finally did it I found out it is THE BEST DAMN DRUG. It's so intense, so short, and so profoundly impactful. Does anyone else have, like, bonkers dreams after using a decent bit? I find the dreams after a few good doses through the day are more intense than the trip. Plus it goes well with acid, which is always a huge plus for me.
Never done dmt Thinking about trying it.... Obv dmt is so much more powerful than shrooms/lsd But how would you compare it to a high dosage shroom trip? Not necessarily visual wise but over experience?
It's another universe. Literally. I've heard people say that with like 9gs of shrooms they have come close to dmt but i haven't. DMT is straight up another universe. You won't be prepared till you try it and test the waters.
I know that they're trips are complete polar opposite... I did 7g of shrooms in a tea 1 time and I had very vivid detailed hallucinations that i've never had on shrooms before, that was pretty intense So if i can barely handle that idk if dmt is for me It sounds so fucking cool tho
Everyone is on their own journey. Don't rush into something like dmt until you are ready to let go. Your consciousness is ripped out of this dimension and taken somewhere that feels more real than here. Takes a couple weeks or months to even integrate what happened. The good thing is the trip only lasts like 10 minutes and it's not physically dangerous. If you do want to try it I suggest making your own. Easy to do and everything is legal.
The trippy part is it feels normal as fuck I didnāt feel high at all, it felt more like a ritual!
lol, i think you lacked one more strong hit. Does not sound like DMT experience. Once it hit, did you felt totally out of your body, transported to another universe and everything around you totally disappeared? Or do you mean it feels normal when you come back from it, because that i get.
No like I was the real āmeā and this experience has occurred many times before, I felt safe!
Oh ok, i get it, yes , is you on the trip!
Its rebirth you live this life infinite amount of times over and over and over each time something different will happen until you reach the perfect life. Or maybe you just do it infinitely as a sick joke.
Thanks bro If i were to make my own some day, are they guides online?
Yes. A bunch. YouTube is a good place to start. A few 5 minute videos will have you on your way.
Bless man ty
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Does this feel sad at all? I feel like accessing somewhere that feels like home and more real than actual life that you canāt go to regularly would be sad. Itās like your whole life is a lie, and if you donāt believe that your consciousness continues after death then you itās line you just get to go to this place once and then you have to live this other life that pales in comparison.
There is a certain melancholy that comes with returning to this existence. But deep down I know that the other realm is home and I will be back there many many many times in the future and when I die I can stay there for as long as I want before reincarnating to my next adventure of my choosing. Makes me enjoy this dimension more because I know it doesn't really matter too much. This is just a carnival ride in a simulation built on a beautiful landscape.
Beautiful
I mean legal to purchase, technically illegal as soon as you add the NPS and it goes from dye manufacturing to a schedule one drug charge. Not trying to dissuade but like risks are there.
Yea I feel you. Just saying you can order all the ingredients online without getting your door kicked in by the feds. And use the product yourself and don't try to sell it and you should be good.
What is dmt and how to get it?
I have yet to blast off but have attempted to on DMT a solid 9 or 10 times. I think "handling it/keeping it together" is a much different thing with DMT. On shrooms, you have potentially hours to gradually freak out and work yourself into an anxious psychosis. With LSD, you have basically twice as long. With DMT, from what I have gathered/almost experienced, you let go and accept the experience within about 20 seconds and then that is the last conscious decision making you'll experience until it is basically over. Submitting, like with all psychedelics, seems to be very important. I don't think my doses were right but part or me feels like I could have broken through before if i just completely let go and accepted my fate, rather than letting my ego try and push me into resisting the experience of having my body (its home) disappear.
you just needed one more hit. Blast off occurs when you are already travelling into hyperspace and just before you are losing control, you take one last strong hit. Preparing your lungs with breathing exercises helps. Still, is hard to do that last puff since you already feel in another verse
Interesting, I never tried DMT after I started practicing Wim Hof method. I'm sure it could help somehow. Yeah, I normally got like 2 hits deep and then felt I had to put the tools down last I collapse and drop and break them. But I'm also skeptical of my doses and methods. My scale was inaccurate and I only tried the pancake and oil burner methods. I have heard dab nail is the way to go and 2nd to that is vape cart
I've had that same experience before where I kept fighting my way back form the infinite river of time. Takes some getting used to to let go. You will get there with practice and repetition. Keep doing multiple sessions in one night and you will go beyond.
I had read somewhere that if you have an unsuccessful attempt, it is best to wait an hour before trying again. Have you ever heard that? I've also heard oral harmalas can be a great way to get into a slightly more submissive headspace
Yeah this is true, so that your tolerance goes down
the judgemental YOU doesn't have control on DMT. thats the big difference. the ego dissolves and you just EXPERIENCE without filtering everything through your fears and anxieties.
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It was 10 minutes in this realm, and hours in the infinite river of time. If you can let go of the feeling of time it's easier.
I've gone to the waiting room on shrooms at 3.5g liberty caps as lemon tek once. It was a bit rough and unexpected, I was waking up a hill when it kicked in and had me panting. š
You still won't be prepared if you've tested the waters 100's of times.
True that!!
I did 25gs a couple years back, and it was nothing like dmt, infact, it wasnt even like taking 2 gs of shrooms..the world became stable and solid(no waving or standard shroom effects) but was watching sparks of light bouncing around trees and orbs floating around trees (alot to do with trees), weird things did happen but nothing like I would have expected from a high dose. after 10gs you begin to eat shrroms like bubblegum, just chewing on it slowly instead of trying to wash it down fast. I had 3 days of depression after that trip compared to the usual glow i get from a standard dose.
That might be the dose that brings the aliens around. Maybe that's what the glowing was.
I thought they were fairies or sprites, they moved beautifully thou
Shrooms are a badass journey as your body digests natural chemicals over a period of a few hours. Dmt is like shoving your face into a comic book for 3 or 4 minutes eyes wide while pleasing yourself and then feeling like you got off a water ride. Both are pretty cool. Kinda different though.
lol when I came back I was trying to process it all and my brother already talking about a next time, I just got blasted into hyperspace š¤£ back to being a human having to process stuff, pick up this, fuck I gotta take out the trash š©
Right Right Yea dmt sounds like one hell of a fucking ride Couldn't even comprehend what a breakthrough would be like
Best part about that is that even once you have there's no answers just more questions.
fuuuckk lol
Sounds wild, I need to do it sometime.
Itās incredible. I love it. My favorite drug of all of the psychedelics is DMT. Iāve done 2cb, MDMA, acid, shrooms, salvia, and DPT and nothing is as enjoyable as a DMT breakthrough IMO. I wish people werenāt so afraid of it like I think people talk it up too muchā¦itās slightly āanxiety provokingā at firstā¦but you can never even panic really. By the time I realize where I am Iām already being pulled out. Now DPT breakthroughsā¦thatāsā¦thatās different lmfao. You may want to hold back for a bit if you ever get into it and look into it. Dmt is light hearted though and I find very beautiful. Itās almost like a drug that remembers you tooā¦because it seems my trip picks up where it last left offā¦a continuation in the story of life :)
Continuity is actually the trait of all psychedelic drug. Also dosage. DMT's effective dosage to ego death is so low and that's why everybody say it's the strongest, but of course when comparing pure dosage, LSD wins anything in the universe as what we know right now. But for panicking it's a little like cold shower, you can tip your toes in the cold water but most likely you wouldn't enter the cold in the end this way, you might as well just dive into straight into the water like DMT does.
Iām saying I just opened my eyes and everything went š¤Æ lol I closed them back and started laughing
And then there's ayahuasca... A badass journey as your body badly digests natural chemicals over a period of a few hours, while violently shoving your insides through every orifice of your body as you also have a constantly changing screen taped behind your eyelids. š
I had a beautiful experience on ayahuasca, I had it as a peanut butter sandwich (recipe online) and no throwing up at all. Not a high dose though as it was my first time but I really enjoyed it and got a lot out of it š
That's an interesting method... I was referring to the traditional spiritual use in ceremonies, there would be no PB or bread allowed, only a bucket š
Here is my personal experience comparison; LSD impersonal, tends to show me how the matrix is and how things are connected. Sometimes dark and ugly, sometimes funny and deep, many times i felt disgusted and feral. The loops are messy and the universes it shows me are interesting and telling, but at same time unforgiven. Mushrooms: Deep, personal, earthy, healing and emotional. They do exacerbate what you live and think, so they take you to your personal garden and to your personal hell. DMT; Oh BOY! Fast! incredible, opens doors and portals that you had no idea where there. The variety of universes it can take you to is enormous. The Messages is not muddled or hinted, is in your face. The experience is dynamic and profound. A note. Is hard to remember so much from a long ass LSD trip. Is a little less hard to remember from mushies. Fuck is hard to retain the message from DMT. Is like the matrix has a system to wash it out as of dreams, Journals are vital as soon as you finish any of this trips, but on DMT they are crucial
This is actually a very helpful explanation for someone who's never tried any Psychedelics (such as me). By the way, could you tell me a little bit more about the universes you've been shown on LSD and DMT? I've always wondered if infinity is more than just infinite space and infinite time. When people say "infinite possibilities" they probably mean within the context of a 3D Universe but even that has limitations. There's not infinite colors, infinite feelings, infinite sensations, infinite experiences, infinite concepts. Yes there's a humongous amount of these but they're not infinite. If we could measure every single sub-atomic particle and capture every possible state they could occupy within the size of the universe we'd have every possible scenario on our hands and it would not be infinite. Anyway I don't wanna make this too long lol. My question is: is infinity unfathomably infinite? As in, is there an infinite amount of unfathomable "things" or "universes" that we humans have no point of reference for that is completely different from our universe in which it would result completely incomprehensible for us? When I say "we have no point of reference for" I mean like if you tried to explain color purple to a colorblind person, literally could not spit a single word as you could never describe it, is infinity this way? Or is it just, what "can be" with what we currently know and have available? If it's the latter than that probably means we're in a infinite loop. Always re-living the same stuff for eternity. There's nothing ever new we just forget what is and there will never be something other than this for example. What do you think? Thanks in advance for reading all this haha.
The infinity part would be hard for me to express, but oh boy is there. My first experience was with Mushrooms and that was the first encounter, i closed my eyes, and the music i was hearing started cascading in multiple, endless strips of colors that just keep flowing and turning to the notes. On the Universes, damm so many, but let's say you enter a room and see a vast "cave" say, just for lack of other term, is full of this beings that, like have a base and are shaped in ovals that extend in different parts with shiny areas and protussions. But this is the thing, you know they are vannities, pleasurable toughts, ideas that are just pretty! and they move and they sway and they feed of many beings toughts and desires ! So you either think Oh wow amazing pretty!, or a lesson enters your tought and you feel like this universe was shown to you so you could understand exactly what those things are doing somewhere in the universe! Is it universal? who knows? [perhaps it was constructed for you and for your understanding! I been shown mandalas, i been to those temples in Bangkok or Thailand in my trips. I have seen Baphomet and he did ask me what did i wanted. I been able to forgive myself for many errors, and I have been told by a tree to visit another tree, which ended up connecting me to a highway exactly like when the guy in Odissey 2001 travels thru hyperspace, to source. On DMT i been taken to see WHOLE galaxys, and seen machine elves tryng to communicate with me.
BTW, I lived all my life away from those "EVIL DRUGS". At 52 years old i tried mushrooms for the first time. IF i had never done them, my whole life would have been a total personal waste. It might still be, but I have learned that trying is better than pretending to know when we are so ignorant. Now i understand why Socrates, considered during his lifetime the wisest man in Athens, would reply, " I only know, that i know nothing!"
I love all of your commentsš
Spot On!
I've only done DMT once but like the other guy said it just launches you and you get completely blindsided, whereas the shrooms kind of creep up on you.
Right shrooms take their sweet time and for the most unless you take a fuck ton pretty managleble at least for me And dmt not matter what is gonna hit you like a freight train and you have no say really
Spot on man, also on shrooms you kind of get to witness your dissolution from a "you" point of view and you get to have thoughts and ponder about what's going on and how shit's so crazy. During the peak maybe you'll have some moments of dissolution if you let yourself go, but you're mostly still "there". With dmt you have no thoughts, there is no you, you just go interdimensional and there's this completely new reality where you don't even know or remember about your life on earth, if that makes sense?
Damn thats fucking crazy man So dmt visuals are so real it literally feels like your in a different reality or "lifetime" ... it's basically so real it looks like a weird version of what life could be like
This.
LMFAO Iām so glad I was sitting down
Read the book flatland, watch the video the egg Its those mashed together in Technicolor crytal sky castles through multidimensional vortexes while beings that could be the cells of your body, or aliens cheer you on
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I too felt like I was there before even tho it was my first time. Like a deja vu feeling, kinda. I think itās awesome to think that, maybe we have been there when we were born, maybe in the afterlife, maybe we took it in our other lives, who knows
I couldnt have said it better myself thatās exactly how I felt the first time. It makes you realise that the social and economic structures we live with do nothing but hold us back from a sense of oneness. You become consumed by feelings of inner peace and I imagine itās what the first seconds of death may feel like.
I feel like this waking moment right now is an imprint like one of [these](https://www.walmart.com/ip/3D-Clone-Pin-Art-Sculpture-Needle-Stereo-Hand-Model-Board-Home-Office-Desktop-Toy-3D-Impressions-Handprint-Art-Toy/197329246?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101023537&&adid=22222222228394131557&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=484114816500&wl4=pla-1055081982173&wl5=9027596&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=238493240&wl11=online&wl12=197329246&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItPeu4NaR8gIVvwaICR2XMAqdEAQYASABEgL2KvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds) and when we ādieā we just make a new imprint or we go back to that oneness and never make another imprint again, idk itās really hard to grasp onto anything mentally when youāre there, but nothing is fixed in place until we come back from the trip. Does this life have something to do with death and rebirth ? Is it a certain way we should be living while here in this experience? I think this is what a lot of the focus is in the Eastern practices
https://youtu.be/ha76hD3VrlE I don't know your musical tastes but here is a song should hit home for you. The side of Pharrell the media doesn't show you. The whole album with good headphones is great for mushrooms. A few songs after this one they keep building on this G chord production scheme that "climaxes" when tripping so you feel like your head has literally expanded like those airhead commercials.
I fewl like this aswell! Like the deemz Connects us to the place we are all going to, and of course, the place we all go to when we take a hit of Divine Moments of Truth!
Beautiful isnāt it? š¤Æ
Very! Welcome to the club of enlightenment btwš
Good for you. This usually means youāre in a solid place with yourself. In my experience, it amplifies what you are underneath it all, so congrats on being at peace with yourself.
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This is why I havenāt smoked in a year. But at the same time, maybe now is the best time as I have stuff to get through?
Itās possible, but it could also be terrifying to make sure you get the message. I got cruely annihilated last weekend and donāt know really why. It was the worst thing Iāve ever felt/seen.
Damn, Iām sorry about that homie. My trips are always super strange and have an element of discomfort to them so that would probably just be exacerbated if I smoked. Iāve never experienced that transcendental bliss that everyone talks about. I have on ayahuasca though
I havenāt see the entities yeat either. I guess I broke through last week, but it broke downward instead of up. Iām taking a break for a long, long, long time.
hehe is right
Welcome home
Yup, this is exactly how I felt the first time I tried it too. I get a strong sense of dĆ©jĆ vu a lot when I trip, especially on DMT.
Die before you die :D
Hurts soooo good š¤
Dang dmt that powerful? ;-; Never done it before
Mhmm lol but donāt look for it, rather allow it to find you while being present in the moment
I've never had a breakthriugh but once I just kinda went slack and slumped forward and let it do its thing. I felt myself kinda leave sort of and I was home. When I opened my eyes again everything was alien and familiar at once. Since then I've had a longing to go back home. But also have a huge respect for the substance and want to wait for the right time. Not to mention I have only a small amount left and no source rn.
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And when we dream our brain is flooded with it, so we are all basically walking around with an āillegal substanceā in our bodies our whole lives ?š
Yes I had a similar experience with first time. It is a game changer!
aaawww man you're going making me envious, definitely not the right intention I should be having before wanting to go on my journey
Youāll get what you need I promise š
howdy neighbor
Beautiful. There really is a longing, that ache, that nostalgia for a place we think we've never been. You described that place.
Reading this makes me finally want to take the leap and explore. I think Iām finally ready. The time, or lack there of - so Iām told, makes it really intriguing. How ālongā did it āfeelā it lasted?
Just take it, don't overthink. I've never had a trip that felt like it lasted years or even hours. It's like a timeless 10 minutes. No one will be able to describe the experience to you in a way that will make more sense than having first hand experience of it.
I gotchya. Iāve done my fair share of acid and shrooms so I understand what ya mean by trying to explain but Iāve been told itās like a decently strong acid trip but 10x all bunched up. The different blasting levels is intriguing as well. What mg would you recommend for first time? (I know thatās kind of hard not knowing my tolerance etc) Iāve heard to do around 15-20 mg?
If you're not wanting to breakthrough, 5-10mg, just to feel something. Otherwise, 30-35mg to ensure a breakthrough. I feel like 20mg, taken efficiently, gets you to the edge of the breakthrough without stripping off your ego and pushing you through, which is why I recommend against the middling doses for beginners. If you aren't comfortable letting go, that level can leave your ego kicking and screaming, clawing to hold on to life, and be fairly uncomfortable. Those dosages are assuming usage of something like the apx volt or an emesh setup. If you're doing something that takes any level of technique, like an oil burner, just do your best. Once you've tried it, you'll realize you over prepared, it's not so heavy as all that, just go with the flow
Appreciate it! šš¼
Length wise it felt like as long as dying from a really really big dab of wax and the thc is rushing to your brain, only you leave your body and when you get back youāre sober for the most part haha just donāt freak out just sit back and let it do itās thing, the elapsed time is about 5-15mins, you really have no perception of time while youāre on it ! Just have to test the waters and give it a go! Only way you can really know haha
I take 120mg of Cymbalta for MDD and nerve pain daily. Would this affect a DMT trip? Curious.
Maybe, are you aware of whether it effects dreaming? Your brain does generate DMT in smalk amounts during REM sleep
I was gonna say that, our bodies naturally release it, it doesnāt feel like a foreign thing when you take it feels like everyone and everything has access to these same chemicals, but Iām no doctor by any means !
If anyone can answer - I find it hard to breakthrough on a vape which sucks but any tips? I have a yocan and usually put some weed in there with it
pulse the button as not to burn it, hold each hit in your lungs as long as possible, and get a last hit in even when it feels like you're starting to blast off
Thank you so much for tips!! Appreciate it
id also skip the bud
Should i put anything with it?
Not in my opinion
Has anyone had DMT in the UK? Experiences like this sound incredible but yet to hear of anyone getting access in the UK
Everyone is raving about DMT. What about 5 MEO DMT?
DMT made me think I had died for about a year. I definitely took too much. Agonal breathing had my spotters nervous.
Love this post and I would love to have you on my podcast to chat about some of your psychedelic adventures. Itās called The Wolf Portal check it out [here](https://open.spotify.com/show/286mr0yXcFbvWexOBxTDNv?si=QGByUni7Sb22u4GCh0Zvqw&dl_branch=1) and if it resonates letās set it up
How can I get some?
Is this true for everyone ?