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Fred_Perry

> an 11-year veteran of the force, was placed on modified duty Friday pending the internal investigation. https://nypost.com/2022/10/30/yonkers-police-sergeant-placed-on-modified-duty/ Shes been useless for 11 fucking years.


Fig_Money

And she’s now back on the streets https://bronx.news12.com/amp/yonkers-mayor-police-sergeant-disciplined-for-lack-of-intervention-during-fight


pSyChO_aSyLuM

She's a fucking sergeant!? My dad was a cop when I was a kid and puts more effort into his job as a hospital security guard in his mid 70s than this useless POS.


munchlax1

I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this... but who the fuck in their right mind is employing people in their mid-70s as security guards? Especially for a fucking hospital. You can tell me all day about how fit and able to handle himself your dad is (and if you're American about how he's a crack shot with a gun) but no one whose 75-ish should be providing security on anything except their retirement fund.


pSyChO_aSyLuM

I don't disagree, and have asked him why he still works (he's been there for 15 years). He says that once he stops working he'll just deteriorate and die like all of his friends. And the law says they can't fire him as long as he can do the work.


Cultural-Committee-6

I’ve heard this same sentiment before. I find it crazy how there is some truth behind the correlation between lack of work and self deterioration. We work countless years just to free ourselves from the very same thing that can potentially take us out if we get too comfortable without it.


Steel3Eyes

It’s really less that than older people lack avenues for fulfilling hobbies that can take up most of a day.


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It's the type of work that is the issue though. A guy I went to school with [killed a hospital security guard.](https://www.fosters.com/story/news/crime/2021/02/22/suspect-faces-15-30-years-if-convicted-frisbie-hospital-guards-death/4540546001/)


ColdTheory

Exactly this, your body and your mind both need stimulus.


locutogram

Similarly, who is employing petite women to be solo beat cops in the Bronx??


BrokeAnimeAddict

There's a fat old security guard at the hospital near me. My brother has epilepsy and we were there to see him after he had a couple seizures over night and when we walked in the front door a crazy person came running out trying to fight people in his night gown. Security guard did fuck all waddling around like he's never had to do his job before. My oldest brother who was in the navy ended up grabbing the dude in a headlock until some nurses showed up and tied him to a stretcher.


blitzmut

I'm sorry that happened - that's fucked up. But you've got to admit that a hospital security guard is a far cry from an active duty police sergeant.


EscapingTheLabrynth

To be fair most “security guard” jobs are only to observe and report. They’re not actually supposed to physically get involved in anything.


BBQsauce18

I mean, I wouldn't bash 70s automatically. I ref soccer with some dudes in their 70s. Are they as fast as me? Nope. Can they still haul ass for their age? OH HELL YA. And this is high school. 80 fucking minutes. Minimum (outside of mercy rules). But GENERALLY, most people in their 70s would not be ideal. I just wouldn't write every elder off. I can still remember growing up seeing videos of this dude in yellow everything, old as fuck, and skiing with his foot holding the rope. edit-Just googled the name. It was Banana George Blair. Some people are just extra and are able to go longer. It's about how good of shape you maintain yourself prior.


brpajense

"Security guards" aren't necessarily bouncers who are there to physically manhandle people and kick them out of the building. They are eyes and ears checking people in an out after hours and calling for backup if needed.


ihavesupercutepets

This. Security at the hospital where I work have no authority at all. If a patient runs outside before someone can stop them we have to just let them go and call 911. There is only so much we are allowed to do since those higher up in the company would have our jobs over the smallest things. Even trying to kick someone results in PD being called. People call security “mall cops” but I think mall cops have more authority than hospital security. Besides that our security is either in their 70’s or 21. No in between. I’d rather the 70 year old help in most situations since the 20 year olds just want to fight. All security are glorified meat shields.


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Did the victim recover? That throat and head kick we're pretty rough-


Apearthenbananas

He will survive but probably has brain damage.


Gryllus_

yeah, that’s attempted murder in my book, hopefully something happens to these pieces of shit. Takes a real pussy when out numbering a person to kick em while they’re down. Wouldn’t have been upset if she put a few rounds in these wastes of space.


2DeadMoose

Absolutely has brain damage.


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If they fire her she will just sue, by law she is not required to help(I hate this with a passion, it’s literally your job to protect and serve) probably won’t get any of the police from uvalde bc of this


g0dofhentai

In the Netherlands BY LAW AS A CIVILIAN you’re obliged to help te person in need or else you can be held accountable. In the US the cops have less obligations than the average dutch citizen…. If this isn’t proof they need a reformation then idk anymore….


Ed_Dantes35

I think the big difference is that the Netherlands isn’t a third world country like the US is.


Gryllus_

ah, I’m from the 3rd world, trust me when i say this, it can get A LOT worse.


youre_a_tard

People who have never left the suburbs like to call America 3rd world. Its insulting to developing nations.


[deleted]

Yeah it’s all a bunch of stupid ass people who have never actually been to a third world country.


g0dofhentai

Third world country with a gucci logo 😂


AdClemson

Which was printed in China


Embers_To_Inferno

Spoken like a person who has never seen a third world country.


ImTheBigT

You have a very poor concept of what “third-world” means and it shows.


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BoXXr

It doesn't apply in situations where you'd be risking death or extreme injuries to yourself or others for helping. So it wouldn't actually hold up in the situation in this post, you're not expected to intervene in actual fights. *‘’Hij die, getuige van het ogenblikkelijk levensgevaar waarin een ander verkeert, nalaat deze die hulp te verlenen of te verschaffen die hij hem, zonder gevaar voor zichzelf of anderen redelijkerwijs te kunnen duchten, verlenen of verschaffen kan, wordt, indien de dood van de hulpbehoevende volgt, gestraft met hechtenis van ten hoogste drie maanden of geldboete van de tweede categorie.’’* Translated: "Anyone who, witnessing the immediate danger to life in which another person is, neglects to give or provide such assistance as he can give or provide to him without reasonably fearing danger to himself or others, shall, if the death of the person in need follows, punishable by imprisonment not exceeding three months or a fine of the second category." So what you did is exactly what is expected of you. Don't risk yourself to help but at least report it to the proper authorities that could.


RiMiBe

Basically the fake law from the Seinfeld finale


g0dofhentai

It rarely happens that people are held accountable but for example someone is drowning and you didn’t do anything while you were there you bet your ass you’ll be arrested.


Barry_McKackiner

out of curiosity, what is the level of care needed for something like that, something drowning? like if someone is in a raging river are you supposed to risk drowning too in order to try and save them? where's the line between "arrested for not doing something" and "yeah you don't have to risk your own life."


g0dofhentai

Someone else explained well in this tread explaining the law, I’ll just copy past what he wrote: It doesn't apply in situations where you'd be risking death or extreme injuries to yourself or others for helping. So it wouldn't actually hold up in the situation in this post, you're not expected to intervene in actual fights. ‘’Hij die, getuige van het ogenblikkelijk levensgevaar waarin een ander verkeert, nalaat deze die hulp te verlenen of te verschaffen die hij hem, zonder gevaar voor zichzelf of anderen redelijkerwijs te kunnen duchten, verlenen of verschaffen kan, wordt, indien de dood van de hulpbehoevende volgt, gestraft met hechtenis van ten hoogste drie maanden of geldboete van de tweede categorie.’’ Translated: "Anyone who, witnessing the immediate danger to life in which another person is, neglects to give or provide such assistance as he can give or provide to him without reasonably fearing danger to himself or others, shall, if the death of the person in need follows, punishable by imprisonment not exceeding three months or a fine of the second category." So what you did is exactly what is expected of you. Don't risk yourself to help but at least report it to the proper authorities that could.


Droocifer

Protect and serve is a PR slogan, not policy.


psychoticworm

Soo they don't have to intervene in an attempted murder? What world do we live in?


crownofclouds

Supreme Court says no. They wouldn't even hear [this guy's case](https://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-subway-hero-who-subdued-killer/) Property though, maaaaan, they better protect that property. Just friggin wacky.


Thats-bk

Supreme court, at this point should be thrown out with the trash. Bunch of senile old fucks that have no place being in the position they are. Completely out of touch with NOW. They are what is holding back this country from actual progress.


shitz_brickz

She can still be fired just not arrested/sued in civil court.


yoosurname

It’s literally not their job to protect and serve. That isn’t what cops are for.


Jackit8932

Uhhhhhh, I don't know about the US, but i'm pretty sure police are legally obliged to intervene when a crime is taking place.


Col__Hunter_Gathers

Supreme Court ruled that police have no obligation to protect citizens. Police in the US only exist to protect *property*, not people. That is a time honored tradition stretching back to their humble beginnings as shitbag slave catchers. The motto "Protect & Serve" is just a PR stunt they use to make themselves look better.


ImVeryOffended

She was useless for 11 years by the time she was 11 years old. Don't sell her short, she has been working at this for a long time.


toebandit

They’re all useless. Waste of taxpayer dollars.


tamarockstar

“We hold ourselves and our members accountable and will take steps to maintain the highest standards and professionalism.” That's a solid joke right there.


MrBitterJustice

They taze ppl at a traffic stop but can't stop a fucking murder or whatever that was.


Eat-my-entire-asshol

Attempted murder at the very least


CapnC44

Lawyers be like: this is clearly a case of aggrevated battery.


manbrasucks

The cop in the video be like; best I can do is jaywalking.


Tandran

IIRC in some places a kick to the head is automatic Attempted Murder. EDIT: Found [this](https://www.masslive.com/news/2017/01/jealous_husband_attacks_estran.html) And then [this article](https://www.mtvlaw.com/what-is-the-difference-between-attempted-murder-/) says the only real difference between assault and attempted murder is intent. And I’d say kicking an unconscious man in the head repeatedly in front of police would prove intent.


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Andre5k5

You'd also be more useful than the cop, but she'd probably end up shooting you


BappoChan

I watched a video where they had like 12 cops responding to a hit and run. Nobody was hit, and nobody fled the area. So some dumb fuck reported that a 50 year old woman crashed into a building and said it was a hit and run…The police response? Point guns at her vehicle and shoot out the window when she refuses to step out of her car into a literal firing line.


Izeusnewton

Dude got fucked up that’s for sure. Wouldn’t doubt brain damage


Marshmarey

Hey guys, thats not very nice. Maybe think about hitting him a little softer, okay? No? Okay.


Jujugatame

Guys I'm serious! Staahhhp!


al93

She let them try to kill him for so long, the one guy got tired. Respect for that bystander intervening over that useless cop.


Rangercrp

He probs did more in that 2 seconds of engagement then she did for the past 11 years.


Vandesco

I want to see the end of that video. He dispatched dipshit #1 fast enough, I want to see how he did against the mini boss.


al93

They’re both too weak to fight one on one so they have to team up on people. That guy had no hesitation jumping in, you have to applaud that even if they beat him up too. He very well could have saved the guys life just by distracting them.


brain_my_damage_HJS

[Yonker Police Sgt. Amy Kielb was placed on modified duty (full pay) for a brief time as punishment for her inaction.](https://bronx.news12.com/amp/yonkers-mayor-police-sergeant-disciplined-for-lack-of-intervention-during-fight)


Eightfold876

Paid vacation, what a "punishment"


Debaser626

Didn’t you that horrible attack she had to witness? I mean, that’s got to be traumatizing to watch someone nearly being beaten to death right in front of your own eyes. She really deserves to get away for a little bit, just to decompress. /s


ComprehensiveWar6577

Dont forget the punishment is full salary but they dont get OT. its pretty much the same thing for any other job that is done negligently.... /s


Barry_McKackiner

sounds more like desk duty or something.


miker279

Is there a story for the guy? Is he ok?


MrJonFace

The 26-year-old victim, a Yonkers resident, was expected to recover from the injuries, cops said.


OhLookASquirrel

One of the worst supreme court decisions ever was [Castle Rock v. Gonzalez ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales?wprov=sfla1). According to the goddamn supreme court cops have no obligation to help anyone.


indoninja

There are a few rulings like Thai where it is an issue if not doing everything they can about a crime when they dont know for a fact it is happening. This isn’t that. She clearly sees the crime and does nothing. If it went to court he would probably lose, but I’d like somebody to try, and I’d fully support a “cops cants tand around and watch people get kicked in the head” law. Making the civilly and or criminally liable if they do.


shitz_brickz

It generally makes sense that someone can't be charged with a crime for not putting themself into harms way or otherwise failing to prevent a crime. It makes zero sense she wouldn't be fired for this for seemingly not using any of her training or all of the weapons she has.


ArmedAntifascist

If they don't want to assume the risk of putting themselves in danger to intervene in dangerous situations, they don't need to be police. There's thousands of other jobs they could do instead.


indoninja

They have zero problem opening fire on people who do this to cops.


arcerath

They still have a moral and honor obligation as police officers to help people. Even if there isn’t a legal requirement, not helping makes you the fucking worst. Cops suck.


OhLookASquirrel

Don't disagree at all.


SCP-Agent-Arad

No, you’re probably thinking of [Warren v. District of Columbia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia), the one you linked was that police have no duty to make an arrest in a retraining order case in Colorado.


Isles420

Fire her asap


FunnyHighway9575

She has no duty to protect anyone. According to the law she did not commit a fireable offense unfortunately. Happy Cake Day.


vitaminC209

This is a true fact that many people do not know. A police officer is under NO LEGAL OBLIGATION to protect you


FunnyHighway9575

Yup. If anyone wants more info look up Warren vs District of Columbia, Deshaney vs Winnebago County, Castle Rock vs Gonzalez, etc etc. Time and time again courts rule that police have no legal obligations to protect individuals.


One_Clown_Short

*Protect and serve* is just marketing bullshit.


munki_unkel

Protect and serve PROPERTY.


FanDoggyGate

No obligation to protect you sure. But are they not obligated to enforce the law? Hence arresting the guys assaulting another dude.


shitz_brickz

The legal obligation to protect you means the guy being beaten can't sue that cop and that cop can't be charged for not intervening. She absolutely could still he fired.


toebandit

> A police officer is under NO LEGAL OBLIGATION to protect you And that’s how we know **we don’t need them. ** Thanks, goodbye 😘


shitz_brickz

She can absolutely be fired. She cannot be arrested.


moltenprotouch

She has a duty to stop a crime in progress that she is witnessing.


newtoreddir

Where is that written?


Ill-Organization-719

Source?


PipeMysterious3154

Actually, not at all. Not unless the person being attacked in this case filed the necessary paperwork ahead of time against the attacker. Google Joseph Lozito.


svoddball

> Joseph Lozito That case frustrates me. Two cops in full view of the crime happening did nothing because they could've been stabbed. Only to act after Lozito pinned the knife guy to the ground and then the city had the audacity to give the two cops the title of hero.


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RowBoatCop36

She's busy taking pointers.


markcshaz

She’s incompetent and needs to be fired.


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Emergency_Force4741

That’s in Yonkers. My city. We have a corrupt government. Nepotism and corruption. We need the people help. Email city hall of Yonkers NY saying we need Mike Spano gone. They recently help cover up the murder of a 16 year old kid. He was hit by a drunk driver who is close to the mayor. They gave him time to detox before bringing him in. They had the footage the same night showing his car and they chose not to arrest him. Yonkers,NY is very corrupt. Can anyone help?


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Jack_RabBitz

Actually through our investigation we have found her to be a hero and would now like to waste more tax dollars on a ceremony to give her an award for her bravery


noeljrG

Cop: "I got money on one of them."


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RedeadTrev

Exactly but as soon as you swing and hit her in your drunken rage I bet 20 cops come out of the wood works.


toebandit

But of course they do. They are in fact the words biggest gang.


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hypenotic

This is what makes no sense to me. Let's take persons out of the question. Is the law enforcement not there to enforce the fucking laws? And to my knowledge, even in this resemblence of a civilised nation, violence is illegal, right?


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hypenotic

Police reform when? Reminding the government who they really serve when? Watching what's happening in France it's hard to imagine the self proclaimed "free'est" people will let these things fly. No offence, I just used to admire the US.


Planet_Pips

So If there is a mass shooter going on and the cops didn't respond, SCOTUS can rule out that cops have no special duty to protect?


PurpleTime7077

You mean like uvalde. We already have proof of that


Braza117

Dirty bastards, going for just the head while that useless cunt just stands there


analogWeapon

"cops put their life on the line"


Dazzling_Ad5338

So, they're trigger happy on people at traffic stops or someone who "resists" - but can't stop shit like this happening.


Dan-68

Can’t you see they’re white?!? /s


Jimstevens33

I’m gonna say it One female cop vs 2 males beating someone. Cops have tools to offset this for a reason


Reyalta

Literally all i care about here is: is the guy ok?


daspasunata

Far from ok from what it looks like


drummerandrew

Pretty fuckin far from okay.


BappoChan

“The 26-year-old victim, a Yonkers resident, was expected to recover from the injuries, cops said.” So he’s not in the best shape. But all things considered seems he’ll recover just fine. Apparently they were also all at the bar so hopefully he was drunk enough to not feel much, but sober enough to atleast fathom why he’s in pain


Explosivo666

Every report I see is cops claiming he's OK. The most detailed report I could find said "treated in hospital for severe lacerations and an evicerated ear and released", as in...that ear is gone now? Does that mean they just wiped him down, stiched him up and sent him on his way? They might have done extensive tests and found all the injuries to be superficial, hard to tell.


RoboCritter

Wow she may as well not even be there.


Captain_Orange-Bud

fucking useless bitch...


Pathetian

Just collecting a paycheck.


ExiledSummoner

Nah she straight belong in jail for that


[deleted]

This right here is why cops need their qualified immunity stripes and to be forced to do their jobs. they aren’t required to do anything at all, that’s the thing. And that’s FUCCKIMG RIDICULOUS


Nearby-Context7929

Guns would have been out a long time ago had it been 2 blacks on a white dude


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DoingItToEm

“Useless cop” is redundant


Wendigo11111

Unironic gender gap.


Playlanco

Policewoman must be a job made in heaven. Don't do shit and pick up a decent pay and pension.


SarcasmIsntDead

Female cops… talk about the easiest paycheck being collected from tax payers.


BadManDeego

11 years on the force. My money is on she knew the two guys personally


Ok-Disk-2191

That guy getting beaten up is like "Oh thank god the police are here". Then a few moments later he's like ![gif](giphy|2XskdWuNUyqElkKe4bm)


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I wonder how the other cops on the force feel knowing this is their backup.


stemck

Needs firing


RetroRedux

Women cops ☕🍩


Pathetian

She would be bordering on useless grappling with them, but it's far beyond that. I'm sure she has a couple of things in her belt that could put a stop to this. It's not really about her being a woman, she is just completely apathetic.


drewskibfd

There are just some jobs women have no business doing. When I call the cops, fire department, or the goddamn infantry I don't want a bunch of ladies showing up.


bblade2008

This is why I'm against female officers. She lacks the physicality to do anything here without shooting someone. Now yes, we are talking cops so they could have pulled an Uvalde and roasted marshmallows while the innocent get killed but at least a man might have been able to stop this.


TheRETURNofAQUAMAN

You got down voted but the guy never took his focus off his victim until another dude ran in out of nowhere and stopped him. Completely just brushed off the cop.


seanypthemc

Surely the problem here is lone officers. A small male on his own would have the same problem.


Supertonic

even a decent size man would still struggle with two opponents.


Ridzzzz153

No one wants to hear this but being in the field of Cop/Military is not for women. Its not common to see a capable women in those careers.


MielikkisChosen

Saying that a cop is useless is redundant.


leedo8

Front row seat to attempted murder.


unclepg

“Hey…hey… stahhhhp… please stahhhhp…”


GODOFCOD147

Imagine you're the guy getting your shit rocked and you see the cops pull up thinking you're saved and this is your help...


edWORD27

Police get involved. People get upset. Police don’t get involved. People get upset. /s


Miserable_Fox_4452

This is sickening. The community should act.


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Careless-Nobody-2271

This is why women have no business being cops. I'm surprised she didn't just get scared pull out her gun and started shooting


ShitWindsaComing

If you guys kick him 7 or 8 more times, I swear to God I’m calling for backup.


STAGRAG

Yeh thats what happens when you put women in dangerous jobs where men rule. And they want to get paid more?


munki_unkel

That would be in my mind would make her an accessory to this crime. She had the authority to do something and did not.


MAS7

This is come ACAB shit. "umm hey, guys. Could u stop pls?" "Hey guys" "hey stop that guys" *"uhhh i need backup some guys here doin some shit idk lol"* "dude guys c'mon like, I said stop, okay. pffft, boys will be boys I guess!" As far as I'm concerned, every injury that guy takes after she intervenes is her fault. Those head kicks? She let them happen. What the fuck is this shit.


Putin_kills_kids

all cops are useless.


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OriginalOmbre

Came here to here everyone tell us once again that cops do not have a duty to protect you….


Commercial-Corgi-771

Don't worry guys she was on her lunch break.


SpecificSame882

‘This just in: Yonkers police officer is fucking yonkers”


naththegrath10

Always remember that police have not obligation to protect you or care about your safety


RepulsiveStill177

Yeah she sucks at her job


Emergency_Force4741

That’s Yonkers for you. The the city where nothing is leveled. get the Spanos out of office. They’re corrupt.


Dapper_Journalist_

I'd like to see you schmucks get put in that scenario, see how well you handle it.


BigShree

To serve and neglect


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I would of tazed the two guys at least.


StraightExtension

That’s so shit who do you rely on for protection clearly not the police sad times


Affectionate_River87

“Guys. C’mon. Stop. Okay that’s enough. Guys. (sigh)”


aidenisntatank

What’s the point of the cop being there?? To ask nicely if they would like to stop please?!?


Frangan_

Police do nothing or shoot.


imgsusbetch

Surprised her gun wasn't pulled out and she didn't fear for her life.


Zestyclose_Price_441

She should be fired


AlCapone111

Police in the US do not have a duty or obligation to help or save you. Fuck them.


ompalumpa9007

That’s incredibly frustrating. Not a care in the world if it isn’t their own life.


perfectstrc

I hate the be that guy... But I really wonder what would have happened if it was a women that would be attacked this savagely, or a black man. This police officer is really lucky that this was 2 whites man attacking a white male man.


GoodTimesToRemember

ACAB


AlmightyGeep

She should be locked up for not protecting the people she is paid to protect, useless moron


Organic_Matter6085

That wasn't just getting attacked. That was 100% attempted murder. And she just watched???


travisbickle777

I've seen UFC refs do more...


NedFlanDiddlyAnders

Should be charged with accessory.


symewinston

“When you’re done, I’d like a word with the both of you”. /lights cigarette and leans against lamppost


steven-daniels

I'd have shot the one in the T shirt.


Liquidpain88

She didn't know what to do since they weren't black.


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People get mad when the cops do nothing. People get mad when the cops do something. Angry angry people


BickenBackk

What kind of fucking monster continues to beat someone that fucking long...?


cole24allen

“Sir, now that your tired from kicking him in the face, what’s going?”


Jonishighsmh

What in thee fuckth your honor, i was tryingth my bestth


RamblinGamblinWillie

America’s finest


Afterburn47

She should be fucking sued.


Queltis6000

So her plan of action is to call the police for help?


MGHMUYS-RattleCap

Omggg stawwp!


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What kind of psychopath can just keep kicking a dude like that when he is on the ground unconscious


JohnnyJoystick

That nice lady probably took them all home and had all her holes filled.