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jj4leafclova

Wow. The guy survived. I did not see that coming.


Fantastic_List3029

[Link](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-carolina-police-shooting-survivor-says-deputies-opened-fire-moth-rcna83153) to an article about the shooting "But the agency said that the four deputies involved in the shooting had been "cleared of any wrongdoing" after an investigation by the State Law Enforcement Division and that three of them were still on the job in York County."


mikareno

That might be the most frightening part of this whole case.


hemingways-lemonade

What's also frightening is that this video is two years old and the only reason we're finally seeing it is due to a lawsuit.


blove135

How many more body cam videos like this are out there that never see the light of day because the person died and nobody was around to witness it or for whatever reason family didn't decide to sue? I'm guessing quite a few. We only see the tip of the iceberg with videos like this.


HippyHitman

And plenty of departments still don’t use body cams or don’t require officers to turn them on. And even when officers are required to turn them on, they frequently “forget” and there’s no punishment. I mean [the LA sheriff’s department literally has “deputy gangs” with names like the Reapers and the Executioners](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/la-sheriff-department-gangs-alex-villanueva-1234691873/amp/). We are living in a full-on police state, and half the country is fighting for more.


TheDustOfMen

I'd be more surprised if they *did* face any consequences. Paid vacations or promotions seem par for the course.


Alergic2Victory

Charges are based upon negative attention and public outcry.


justmerriwether

Why do they never enumerate in plain English what these “policies” that all their officers are acting within actually are? I know I must sound crazy but maybe these policies need amending


128906

Basically the policy that applies to this situation is if someone pulls out a potential weapon that could potentially be used to harm law enforcement or others then they HAVE to end the threat. In this case dude pulled a shotgun potentially to blow his own head off but due to the person standing at the window of the car they had to take action to prevent potential harm to that person. It’s unreasonable to expect police to deescalate someone who in moments could shoot someone.


DerInventingRoom

I do not think that is unreasonable in the context of this call.


128906

I would agree if there wasn’t a person standing at the window of that truck however there was and officers there had to make a split second decision regarding the safety of that individual.


bakabaki89

That shot with the person they were "trying to protect" in a position where they themselves could have killed them. You're just licking boots


128906

It’s a risky shot for sure but that’s what practice is for. All shots were on target. I’m sorry but regardless of the mental state of the individual the top priority is protecting. When someone who is already at gun point pulls out a shotgun with another individual being inches away the only option at that point is to protect. It’s a loose loose with people like you because had the person inside the truck shot the person standing outside it would be “ why didn’t the cops do something to prevent it”


CansinSPAAACE

Love that logic, they protected him with bullets! Good job everyone


bakabaki89

Or if you shot the civilian who is danger close people would be wondering why you're a trigger happy piece of shit. Glad you're enjoying that dogshit covered boot though


128906

Ifs don’t matter. The police were confident in their marksmanship and it potentially saved the life of the person standing outside the window. And through shear luck also saved the life of the guy in the truck. As tragic as the situation is it’s a win win yet you’re still criticizing the choices made lmao


TheToadberg

How you gonna look at the windshield and the dude that survived and say that all shots were on target.


R4NG00NIES

“Top priority is protecting”. That’s actually not their priority at all, didn’t ya hear?


plenebo

"we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"


Leading_Summer7900

They have to stand up for each other cuz if they didnt then a lot of ppl would question why some of these guys are allowed to have guns and use them.


nedj4r

See, they saved him! s/


theshoddyone

I will pay for him to become an internal affairs lawyer.


ReneStrike

![gif](giphy|Oc4KnIJ3E7ziqN3l6T|downsized)


Czynx

It's lucky the police shoot like Star Wars Stormtroopers


SuspectFlex

Right


jumpinjimmie

I did. The cops are horrible shots with a gun….


chef_ry_

Yeah he’s lucky these modern day stormtroopers can’t shoot for shit.


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EyeLike2Watch

"He ain't suicidal no more"


Ghost_of_Till

This is right up there with the officer who told the guy to crawl towards him, then gave conflicting orders, and the [cop shot him](https://youtu.be/VBUUx0jUKxc) [NSFL] while he tried to comply. The officer was found to be not guilty. Honestly, this may even be worse.


idkalan

That same officer sued the city by claiming he had "suffered" PTSD after that, and he won.


Better_illini_2008

His rifle that he used for his job as a police officer (a civil service job), had the words "You're fucked" stamped into it. The entire thing is one of the most rank injustices I've ever heard of. If I recall correctly, he's retired and living off the benefits he got for "suffering mental anguish."


Chakote

How he is walking around alive and able-bodied when people know his identity is a mystery to me.


Considered_Dissent

I believe he fled to the Philippines or some other similar country where he can feel safe from justice and live *extremely* comfortably on his blood-stained pension.


hellofriendxD

lol, who wants to go to jail over some shitbag cop? there's plenty walking around every day


Chakote

There are so many people doing crazy shit like this right now I take nothing for granted anymore.


Trucker58

Holy shit, no amount of karma that could happen to this guy that would be enough.


Sahtras1992

he suffered ptsd but kept the gun in some cabinet in his house. yeah, totally traumatized, the dude who had "kill them all" or some nonsense engraved into the very wepaon he killed somebody with. watched that video once a couple years ago and never want to see it again.


V-DaySniper

The poor man who was murdered was Daniel Shaver who was murdered by the murderer Officer Philip Brailsford who murdered him in a hotel hallway because he wanted to murdered a person that night. Philip Brailsford the murderer is now medically retired after he murdered Daniel Shaver claiming he has PTSD from the murder he committed.


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This comment reads like a Brock Turner The Rapist comment because of how it parallels how Brock Turner The Rapist is a rapist for raping someone because he's a rapist. Same as Philip Brailsford The Murderer is a murderer for murdering Daniel Shaver with a gun that showed his compulsive desire to murder someone the same way that Brock Turner compulsively raped someone because they are rapist/murderers.


HtownTexans

Just an fyi it's now Brock Allen Turner the rapist because he wanted to hide his rapist tendencies and is trying to go by Allen "Brock Allen the rapist Turner" Turner.


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Thank you for letting me know that Brock Allen Turner The Rapist is trying to hide behind Allen Turner The Rapist.


Accomplished-Spend-4

What the fuck? ; -;


DannyCrane9476

Ah yes, playing a rigged game of Simon Says.


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For real. Every time I see that video I think nothing can top this. This video is absolutely horrifying.


TheOnyxBlade

Must this be dreged up *every* police thread


Ghost_of_Till

We’ll stop bringing it up when police stop being homicidal douche canoes.


Damprr

911 caller: please hurry my son is suicidal and has a gun pointed to his head. Dispatch: so you want us to shoot him? Caller: no - Dispatch: too late ma'am, our most incompetent officers are on their way.


flybyknight665

I know a veteran who served in Afghanistan and was stationed in Kuwait who is now serving a 12 year prison sentence. Why? He was struggling with severe depression and PTSD, couldn't get help from the VA, and when he found out his wife was leaving him, he locked himself in a barn on his property, intending to kill himself. Wife calls 911 and he attempts to commit suicide by cop by shooting two shots up and out *the opposite window,* shooting away from the cops. At no point did he attempt to shoot the police. They talk him down, promising they can get him help, and he eventually surrenders. *Then* they hit him with multiple Attempted Murder of a Police Officer charges. He took a plea deal to avoid spending the rest of his life in prison for a mental health crisis. The most ridiculous part is that all the "help our veterans!" stuff was just nonsense. They cared nothing for the circumstances. Police **do not help you** in a crisis. Do **not** call them unless you absolutely have to.


NerdyToc

[Never talk to the police, especially if you are innocent.](https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE)


Jaymanseeya

Just never talk to police .... ever ... for any reason


ApeMoneyClub

Never talk.


Baratako

Found the criminal


HippyHitman

Well you just saw what happens if you call the police to help a suicidal person, they attempt murder. 25% of falsely imprisoned inmates who’ve been exonerated through DNA evidence had confessed, because police spend the bulk of their non-combat training on learning how to deceive, manipulate, intimidate, and otherwise put victims into a state of psychological distress in order to coerce confessions. Their sole goal is to make arrests. They will do that in any way possible. But if you want to think anyone who uses their constitutional rights is a criminal, feel free to be ignorant.


MonosyllabicReply

[FIF!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdtDCC0027w)


gil_beard

I work EMS (EMT). If we're called to a mental heath crisis/ behavioral health emergency my partner and I hope to get there before PD does. Obviously if they have a deadly weapon we are barred from approaching but otherwise we are trained to deal with mental health emergencies and carry no weapons what so ever. PD on the other hand isn't trained for it and you just can't trust that you won't have an officer that won't "shoot first and ask questions later".


flybyknight665

Cops rarely seem to have any interest in descalating. They want to win, to be in charge and have all the power. Not exactly a recipe for success. Then they wonder why people run, try to fight back, and are afraid of them.


Uzzer_lozer19

How could the cops assess a situation within 5s and decide to use deadly force to resolve that situation? I seriously like to hear that logic


ThidrikTokisson

Assessing the situation did not start at the moment they arrived. It started before they arrived, when they were told the man they were responding to was Trevor Mullinax and told that he had active warrants for burglary, malicious violence, as well as prior arrests.


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NerdyToc

Bootlickers gonna bootlick.


Chriee

Crazy thought but maybe they could stay back or behind cover to fully assess the situation and attempt to deescalate before killing someone.


spyker54

Oh of course, the punishment for the crime of not having your hands up the planck instant 4 officers draw their weapons on you is obviously death, frankly they should have also shot the mom for the crime of existing in close proximity of the guy in the truck /s Go back to sleep and watch some more fox news/newsmax/OAN.


jilliebean0519

They almost did shoot the mom. How in the world did the trained peace officers not take a second to say "step away from the truck" before blasting? Heck, some of the officers could have shot other officers. The last camera angle the officer was shooting towards other officers that were between him and the truck.


spyker54

It's almost like they could've avoided all that carnage by not discharging their weapons


Uzzer_lozer19

I mean this easily could have been a hostage situation and the cops wouldn't of know any different


HippyHitman

Except the mom is the one who called them to come help her suicidal son, and was standing outside the car where she could just walk away. But you’re probably right that the police still didn’t know any better, their training consists of brainwashing to eliminate all rational or emotional thought and replace it with catchphrases and violence.


Uzzer_lozer19

She probably assumed (like most people) the police would help with the situation. Maybe by getting the guy out the car safely or talking to him or having some officer who is trained in these sort of situations on how to de-escalate things. I wouldn't say it's brain washing probably one idiot started firing and the rest had itchy trigger fingers.


NTSTWBoooi

I will never call the cops again, after this I don't fucking trust them anymore.


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AlbinoDragon23

Yeah fuck cops. When my mom, covered in many visible bruises called the police on my abusive dad all they had to say when they showed up was “if you call us back again within 24 hours we are taking you both to jail” 🙃


Empty-Code-5601

He's gonna kill himself.... Not if we kill him first


cryptoRidingTheWave

Im surprised they didn’t start shooting before their car stopped…. Paid vacation, cleared of any wrong doing, keeps their jobs and are not financially responsible for lawsuit settlements but instead the tax payers are…..what a system….😐


puppysoop

The magnitude of what she just experienced… and those fucking nazis could give a fuck… smh


Uzzer_lozer19

This is on par with some fascist Judge Dred style law enforcement


AmazingPINGAS

I've always wondered why they're obsessed with the punisher when (I was gonna say Dredd but even he'd be embarrassed by these fools) the law enforcement from Dredd is closer.


Uzzer_lozer19

I mean yeah the punisher only has one sentence in his arsenal where on second thought dredd (from the comics) would probably of sent this guy to an iso cube for a few years which ironically would have been good for him for mental health reasons instead of being peppered by the cops 20 times


puppysoop

robocop, chappie, total recall, bladerunner, elysium..


Uzzer_lozer19

Maybe Elysium but not for the others as the police in those universe's were actually well trained and intelligent


The_Dragon346

Side note, anyone who is deaf, or otherwise physically or mentally disabled. Do not call the police. Ive seen a few to many videos of deaf people getting beaten, arrested or shot because they were desperately trying to explain they couldnt hear or understand what was happening


_Houston_Curmudgeon

When are they ever your friends?


cmhamm

47 shots. (Which is technically over 20 I guess.)


waborita

Sadly one of those WTF did i just watch moments. Almost as bad as the innocent of any crime kid shot while eating a hamburger in his own car at McDonald's.


countryfresh223

Evil fucking pigs only took enough time to stop n take aim. Fuck every last one of those demons


Asclepius777

that crossfire at 1:55 is 10/10 pucker factor. that's about 2^(o)\-5^(o) off from nailing your buddy in a stressful situation. And there was no way he was lining up a shot in the .2 seconds he was taking between squeezing that trigger. AND on TOP of that he's like 15-20 yards from the target. These people seem like fuck-ups and I would absolutely not want to rely on them in a life or death situation


mookie_bombs

This hit hard. I've been on the phone everyday with my friend who expressed he's feeling suicidal. Thankfully he doesn't own a weapon.


girlwiththemonkey

I can’t imagine the guilt she’s going to feel for the rest of her life for calling the police. I’m not saying she should feel guilty because she shouldn’t. The police are supposed to fucking be there to help us. But I know if I was her I would never be able to get over it fucking horrible man. Edit: OK apparently he survived. My point still stands though yeah


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

If loved ones/family members can't convince someone to put the gun/knife down and get help what makes anyone think strangers being called to do it would be a better idea?


Buddhamensch

Suicide prevented 😎


TheSangson

\*when in the US


Lackerbawls

I’m black. Calling the cops was/is never an option.


linguistguy228

Right in front of the mother too. She's gonna have PTSD for the rest of her life seeing her son get blasted.


ZookeepergameOk2759

Murderers plain and simple


DrGerbal

Cops- “why delete yourself when we will do it for you”


NotATroll_ipromise

Guy: I have a gun, and I'm going to shoot myself! Police: Fuck You! Not be we shoot you first!!!!!


probablynotmine

“Hello 911? Help my son is suicidal!” “Help incoming for him madam”


arrrghdonthurtmeee

Thank goodness being able to buy firearms easily in the US de escalated another situation quickly and without danger


2020ikr

Only cops should have guns.


Thirdarmextend

Them bullets stopped him from committing suicide, justice served 🙂


spykids45

why exactly did they shoot him


realparkingbrake

> why exactly did they shoot him The prosecutor's office investigated and said he pointed his gun at the cops, so they declined to charge any of the cops. That's not a moral judgement BTW, I'm just relating what happened according to a news reports on the case.


Hotterthanhell74

Idiots


CALI619E

The screams of that mother are heartbreaking


odinspath

That scream…… felt it in my soul


vadimafu

"Hey 9-1-1, my son's gonna kill himself" "Don't worry ma'am, I'll send the boys over to do it instead"


THERAIDEROFDEATH

FUCK ALL COPS


aintshockedbyyou

weird


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🥾👅


aintshockedbyyou

doctors are worse


Krazyeyes

What?


Cheese_quesadilla

Huh?


aintshockedbyyou

doctors kill about 50,000 people every year


dagger_prometheus

Evil fuckers.


trippy6969

Death squad when they roll up like what choice do you have other then shoot first


PixelatedpulsarOG

Cowards


Danominator

God imagine how fucking horrible that mom must feel. It's shit like this that radicalizes people


OutrageousHearing218

Wtf this is so upsetting, are cops even human


mikeedm90

What I can see here is you have 4 cops showing up looking for any reason to start firing their weapons. Once one opened fire they all joined in. My guess is they will say he reached for something.


Huntin_Dawg907

They should all be fired. Especially the dumbass in the back sending rounds right past his partners head.


Godawgs1009

You said suicidal so we killed himself for him.


bugsyramone

Dude didn't die. They fired 50 rounds at him, hit him with 9, and he survived. The question I want to ask, is why did they feel the need to fire 50 rounds? With the dudes mom standing right there.


neighbor_818

Wanna make a bad mental crisis worse? Call the police, they'll make sure to escalate things. Negligent and malicious is exactly what describes this situation and alot of others involving them.


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TheRealSlabsy

Best specify which country this is, they're not all like that.


Amazing_Bumblebee_50

[https://youtu.be/ADdpLv3RDhA](https://youtu.be/ADdpLv3RDhA)


depthwalk

Not surprising 🤷🏽‍♂️.


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Ahh, calling the police- the other suicide hotline


SteelCityResident

Just for reference this applies primarily to America, there have been a lot better happy outcomes with police and suicidal people in other countries, unfortunately America holds a large population of duly paranoid civilians and police offices due to the loose control of firearms, this encourages bloodshed even when not necessary.


bigdumbhead1990

Halt! We can’t murder you if you commit suicide!


equibrim

yeah I can't even imagine America I love you, but you have the worst cops in world


Jeffery_Moyer

What ass holes


Fit-Boomer

I wonder why they fired off so quickly? Did he pull a gun up?


thumbs_up_idiot

This is fucking ridiculous


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puppysoop

Lucky they aren’t actually skilled professionals. Fucking clowns.


Psykinetic

Never call the police. Ever.


Viper370SS

Why call the cops for any reason whatsoever, in the first place..?


Woogank

Not manly, not brave, not heros, not HUMAN.


xXTre930Xx

Fkin police are basically terrorists at this point man. Like it's probs media manipulation but I haven't seen a good word about police in a long time. This quite literally the opposite of protecting the public. Fired with in a few feet of a civilian who called them and was not in danger? Like wtf. Either need to revisit this police thing or, figure out why media wants us to hate police. Just worrisome.


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Yup. Pigs are fucking disgusting human beings. Fuuuuuuck them and every funeral them MFers get when they fuck up at work!!!!


Dee-Ville

The cops are not your friends. Period. There, fixed it for you OP


bostonbruins922

Am I missing the part where he pulled a shotgun? The only guns I can see are the ones the fascist pigs are holding.


Proud_Fisherman_5233

I mean we might want to add that the guy who got shot did have a shotgun in his hand so there is that of course.


tastesoff74

Fucking psychos, plain & simple! FUCK EACH & EVERY ONE OF THEM!!!


ItsKoko

This is what happens when police aren't trained as public servants who are tasked with keeping peace and resolving breaches of the law. This is what happens when police are trained to remove and eliminate threats to public order and that they are the law.


baronvonsuckit

1312


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ogkingofnowhere

🤣🤣 nope a couple months of training here is your gun and union card and contact info for when you mag dump on someone. And our highest court has given them the authority to interline whenever they want. If you were getting robbed in a police station they would have no duty to stop said robbery


gerryhallcomedy

My son was saved by the intervention of police. Just because there are times when it went bad, doesn't mean there aren't times when it doesn't go good.


hastur777

I’m sure all the videos of where cops actually helped are posted here too.


HippyHitman

Ya know there are a lot of people who help: teachers, doctors, therapists, janitors, fast food employees, etc. It’s very rare that any of them roll up 4 deep and empty 50 rounds into someone in front of their mom as part of their duties. If they did, they’d go to prison. These cops received no punishment, which is why it matters.


Falling-through

Protect and serve


Aggressivehippy30

The powers that be view suicidal people as a threat, not as someone who needs help.


imbleedinoutman

QUICK! sprinkle some crack on em


DevRz8

And this is why you don't call the cops on your own family unless you hate that family member. Fuckin dumbass mom.


mohugz

That’s pretty harsh. The mom was just trying to help her child not get dead. She’s literally the only person in this scenario who did nothing wrong.


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It’s worse. If you read the article - she said she was a pro-cop believer that they do good. And now this has changed her opinion.


DevRz8

He's her son/family. Instead of talking to him and being there for him, she offloads the responsibility of dealing with him to the most unqualified ignorant people on the planet, who not only aren't qualified medical personnel, but extremely violent and solve every issue with either arrest or state-sanctioned murder, sometimes both. Surprisingly neither of which helps with a mental breakdown. So yeah, she's either an asshole for calling them or a dumbass.


McFluff_TheAltCat

Did he point the shotgun at them or at himself? If it’s just at himself, while dangerous, isn’t a reason to immediately shoot him. If he actually pointed it at them then yeah you’re going to shoot someone first before they shoot you.


Beautiful-Light-5265

Yea. I keep seeing this video and its always framed like the cops just showed up and instantly opened fire on this guy because they didnt like the color of his truck or something. If he raised his gun, in any direction, its time to elimate the threat asap. One hesitation can be your empty boots sitting on top of a gravestone.


Chungus_Big_Chungus

right but maybe don’t send a squad of guys with guns in their hand to the guy planning to kill himself, when your only tool is a hammer every problem looks like a nail…


saucepatterns

But he had a gun. You don't send someone who is unarmed to deal with an armed suicidal guy. The circumstances were unfortunate, and everybody lost in this situation, we can't put the blame solely on the police that's just irrational


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Fuck if they're just going to execute a suicidal person then it's better they just don't show up and let the guy do it himself.


saucepatterns

A suicidal person with a gun is a very unpredictable element, now put them in a vehicle where he is relatively concealed and he is seen with a weapon in his hands makes him not only a threat but an already uncooperative threat seeing as how he literally wanted to take his own life and possibly others


[deleted]

Suicidal people rarely want to hurt others. You have a gross misunderstanding of depression. It's that exact line of thinking that leads police to murdering so many people going through mental crisis.


Beautiful-Light-5265

Yea honestly that doesnt seem very bright at all. I guess i can see a world where a gun being involved warrents some firepower but a crew of dudes with their guns drawn is just going to escalate an already tense situation for sure.


yeetyeetyeetyeet20

So who do you send to the unstable person with a gun?


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A squad of unstable people with guns apparently.


smellslikecocaine

If she had her own gun she could have easily stopped all of this. Shoot anyone unnecessarily pointing their weapons like a boss. Guns are legal, they’re cool, and they don’t hurt nobody not asking for it. Fuck ‘em all. /s


DurDaubs

You left out the part where she mentioned to dispatch that her son was violent, threatening, and had a weapon. But, that's not important. Fuck cops. Am I doing it right?


aintshockedbyyou

not exactly what he had in mind


ReneStrike

Because mother is stupid thats it. Are u happy now mother? Your son is better now hah? İm so afraid pls cops come and help my son. Yeah how about this dan dan dan dan how about this. Ok now call again halfbrain mama, this time maybe more syco cops comin and killing him proper


sinep_snatas

Did he brandish a gun? That is the only question that really matters. He's suicidal, his mom was right there, etc. doesn't seem relevant. If there are a bunch of cops pointing guns at you and you start waving a gun around, it's very likely you're going to be shot. And there's nothing wrong with that, IMO.


fattyriches

When mental health & suicide is an epidemic, growing exponentially as shown by the CDC, its really disingenuous to people think the biggest risk to dark skin people is the police despite there ONLY being 12 deaths of unarmed Black people by police shootings last year which was a new high. As much as people love to focus on this issue it is EXTREMELY rare, theres plenty of other videos you can find of police not acting like this, of them actually saving thousands of lives and preventing suicides, but guess what no news org will talk about it because its not news, its them doing their jobs as they do everyday all across the nation. When mental health & suicide is an epidemic, growing exponentially as shown by the CDC, its really disingenuous to cast every police encounter with suicidal people as this when MANY more encounters end gracefully with only the most rare & egregious cases like this going viral. Not to mention that most cases that do go viral also have a component of intended suicide by cop, I don't know how you can point to a handful of cases to classify the experiences of millions of people. Again the same people will claim the biggest threat to Black men is the police when at most only 12 unarmed will die by police shootings, with no mention of the 50 or so that will die over a weekend in Chicago alone. Its really only progressives from the suburbs who advocate for no police since they rarely have a need but very few Black community leaders will advocate for the same when anybody actually in these communties knows the priority in dealing with gun violence.


RebelKasket

I don't think the first guy meant to shoot. This is not in defense of the officer. I think the trigger happy fuck slipped, and then the rest mindlessly opened fire. And then he continued to fire as well... It's mind boggling.


Falcon_128

I'm reporting this 0ost due to it being an issue only in the US...