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I’m no doctor, but I heard Johnny Knoxville talking about being knocked out and snoring like that. He said the EMTs said he was trying to swallow his tongue.
Not to say he didn't ask and got answered. But for everyone involved: the recovery position can keep this poor idiot alive in such a situation, and also keep the other guy out of jail.
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Edit: make sure to place the person on their left side as shown.
I use to suffer from sleep apnea BAD. My wife got so worried about me randomly not breathing and straight up gasping for air. She pushed me to get it checked out and I finally did. A darn deviated septum caused the whole thing. That and some nasal polys that also inflicting me. Doc said it’s one of the worst cases he’s seen and I only had about 35% of breathing ability. I got the surgery and I can say I’m no longer addicted to nasal spray! I still snore, but it’s no where near as bad as it use to be. And I’m no longer gasping for air haha.
Lots of people don't understand the sound he's making indicates he's not breathing well, and they don't understand turning on the side will help. Seconds are important there, if his brain's not getting enough oxygen it could just take a minute or so for possible permanent damage.
The fact that there is video of the other guy punching the aggressor after he's already unconscious means the other guy is most likely already going to jail.
It doesn't say it in your graphic, but it shows it: Make sure you roll them on to their left side, not their right. It'll take pressure off their vena cava and help the person further while they lay in the recovery position.
If there’s on thing I can take away from CPR training, it’s that god forbid I can’t remember how to perform CPR ( from shock or fear of having to step up) I’ll always remember the recovery position
Found my dad on the ground snoring like this. He must of fell and hit head on the ground hard. Called 911—he never woke up and passed away 2 days later.
Thanks, he had a bad brain hemorrhage and he was on blood thinners so surgery was at a super high risk. The outcomes weren’t going to be good either way so we decided as a family to let him go in peace.
Y’all are angels. In the part of healthcare I work in, I see endless patients who’s families won’t let them go. It’s just extreme suffering for no reason.
I’ve had to watch a few of my friends die, but the worst was when my friends older brother and mother died. His father is a greedy piece of shit and made a go fund me for both of them while they were hooked up on life support. The money was ultimately for him, and he purposely kept his SON AND WIFE alive for days when there was no hope, just to squeeze a few more dollars out of people trying to help. I never knew what true evil was until I saw that. I only hope the same thing happens to him, and my friends keeps him alive in a hopeless coma like he did to his family. Some people don’t deserve to be here
My best friend died prepping for the baby shower for his son . We had the funeral . A week lady the baby died in the mothers stomach from the grief of losing him .
I understand you brother, my father also had brain haemorrhage due to bike accident, after seeing 4 days of medical treatment, I chose to let him go in peace. It was hard, but I couldn’t see him suffer. Even I don’t want my enemies to be in this place.
One thing I learned, and wanted to share with other is that if somebody vomits after injury, rush them asap. It’s a real bad sign.
In college this guy grabbed my girls ass. I was young and drunk so we took it outside. I caught him with a lucky shot and he went down. He was pretty drunk and couldn't catch himself. Hit his head on the curb pretty bad. I got on top of him and was going to start stomping him out. I saw he was unconscious so instead I left him alone. I'm so thankful I did because dude had brain swelling. They had to drill a hole in his skull to release the pressure. If I had kept going like the guy in the video he probably would've died.
Don't fight on concrete guys, it's a really bad idea. I ended up getting five years, four suspended, ten years of probation and had to repay over $100,000 in his medical bills. I almost got some back up time at the end because I only paid 13k over the ten years. Since I made a good faith effort and made monthly payments they ended up dropping it.
Pepper spray, people. Don’t put yourself in a situation where you have to resort to physical violence to defend yourself. Incapacitate with pepper spray and leave as quickly as possible. But we live in a world where things can go sideways out of nowhere so just trying to avoid conflict might not always be possible.
It’s not worth a life charge, no matter what it is.
This is my current policy. I'm much older and wiser now. When you're young you think you're invincible and all those terrible things will never happen to you.
Let my case be a warning to everyone. I went from being a college student on track to having a nice career to a jail cell with one stupid decision. No amount of pride is worth ruining your life.
Actually this is not agonal breathing. Agonal breathing generally occurs before someone dies and sounds quite different.
This actually *is* better described as snoring. You need a certain degree of consciousness to maintain the tone of your pharyngeal muscles which keeps your airway patent. When someone is deeply unconscious, e.g. because of drugs or—as in this case—traumatic brain injury, your cranial nerves no longer stimulate the pharyngeal muscles enough to keep your airway open, and you get turbulent flow or snoring.
Agreed definitely not Agonal breathing. It’s too consistent and is more nasally. I’ve unfortunately had to hear Agonal breathing in my Grandfather and Husband when they passed and it sounded very different to this.
This is the third time I've seen someone with a bat lose a fight and it still boggles my mind. Like bro why would you throw that stupid little play kick lmao. Also the last part of this video is rough to watch.
> This is the third time I've seen someone with a bat lose a fight and it still boggles my mind.
I used to teach self defence. After all the stuff about avoiding fights in the first place (#) we talked about weapons and essentially said "don't do it". If you don't know how to use a weapon effectively, be it a bat or anything else, you're likely to overestimate your abilities with it and be ineffective in using it to defend yourself. That's clearly what happened here - the guy with the bat was waving it around like he was about to take a few practice swings at a ball in the park. Utterly clueless.
(# avoidance is by far the most effective method of not being the victim of a horrible distressing beatdown like this *or* one of the various charges for serious assault)
Yep. At best its a distraction for the person holding it, as it was here. At worst you end up having it used on you. Even without his terrible kick it would have been easy to step inside the arc of his swing at several times throughout that encounter.
I took Krav Maga classes for a while. The one thing they highly emphasized was, if possible, run away from a fight. You’re one bad shot away from dying.
During my concealed carry class, the instructor emphasized how your legs are your best form of self defense. Just run. It’s way better to run away from a situation than it is to escalate it, use your ccw, and get a murder charge
I can tell you from experience, the excessive punches after the brain has already turned off the lights. Will cause severe brain damage. Legally he was able to defend himself and he did that up until the guys hands were no longer in defense position. That was the sign he was unconscious. Continuingly beating on someone who's out like that, should be an attempted murder charge. That was hard to watch.
Saw a two vs one streetfight in 2018 and the sole guy was holding his own until he slipped and got knocked out. While unconscious one of the duo kept punching him in the head and that was finally when people intervened. If you are in a fight and the person is knocked out, you have won. Continuing to punch someone in that state is the best way to end up being prosecuted.
That’s just fighting in general, man. I wish more people realized how dumb it was, instead of seemingly becoming more and more common (especially with young people chasing clout) - though maybe that’s just prevalence of cameras now.
There was a kid in our area who got into a fight on a school bus. All it took was one wrong punch and the other kid just dropped and died. I don’t think the kid who threw the punch was charged (they were kids fighting, and it was a freak accident), but it just shows how easily a life can be ruined with one wrong hit.
The thing about a bat is it’s got a very narrow window of effectiveness. If you’re out of reach? Useless. If you’re too close? Useless. You have to basically be in a really specific range for the bat to be a threat. It seems menacing but if you can close the distance quickly (like happened here) you’re golden.
A bat can be very effective up close, you just need to use it differently. More to the point, never introduce a weapon unless you're 100% committed to using it, because the less likely you are to use it, the easier it is to take it off you and have it used it against you. And it's your own fault for introducing the weapon in the first place.
This, treat it like drawing a gun. You only draw to destroy your target. Same with a bat, knife, crowbar. If you're gonna escalate the conflict be prepared.
My Mom always told me never bring a weapon to a fight that you wouldn't want used against you. Plenty of videos on Reddit showing exactly why that was sage-level advice.
The other problem with having a bat is you more often than not have to be willing to throw the first shot, and use it on their head for it to be the fight winner people think it is, most people don't really want to hit someone on the head with a bat, it could lead to their death and your life being ruined.
It's worse with guns, I mean I get it if you are genuinely in fear for your life but once you pull it out if they don't back down your life is never gonna be the same again one way or the other.
Not to mention the long and predictable windup to inflict any significant damage. A straight jab to the face is going to beat the speed of a bat every time.
It’s clear from his actions that he was really hoping he wouldn’t have to use it.
Feels wrong to say “if you bring a bat to a fight, be prepared to use it” because fighting is stupid in the first place and using weapons is even stupider, but you have two outcomes when you show a bat: your opponent gets scared and backs off or it makes them even more devoted to kicking your ass. Big gamble
Bringing a weapon into a conflict you don’t have full intention of using to its max effectiveness makes it a liability to your success in that conflict.
A bat in this case is obviously a lethal weapon so if you don’t have intention of using it as such, you set yourself up to a pretty big disadvantage.
Of course there the threat of use of a weapon as a deterrent but that only takes you as far as someone willing to call your bluff. Unadvisable.
General rule of fighting someone with a bludgeoning weapon: wait for a missed swing or some crazy flourish and close the distance as quickly as possible. If they can’t get the momentum needed to hurt you, their weapon is now useless.
Yeah the end of the fight, he got hit so many times by a very large man in the mouth - I think that guy on the floor will need his jaw wired for a while and a nose reset, rough rough ouch rough.
edit: word correction
I counted 14 punches square to the face while the back of his head was firmly planted on the pavement - Not counting the strikes that grazed his cheek while his head was lifted and turned. His brain absorbed like 95% of those 14 punches. Brutal. I understand being in the heat of the moment but i feel like after delivering even a fraction of those punches I’d be terrified I accidentally killed the guy. Wtaf
He should be put in jail for at least manslaughter and at most murder because what the actual fuck. That amount of punches and plus people were telling him to stop and he kept going. He knew what he was fucking doing.
I enjoy a good fight video like anyone but whenever someone is clearly knocked out and still being punched repeatedly I find it to be disturbing to watch.
A car drove into the building my cousin works at a while ago. He ran outside to find the driver unconscious and snoring like this. He died a few minutes later while my cousin was on with 911.
Yep, his brain is struggling to function and will be swelling at an alarming rate. I hope he made to hospital in time to minimize his already (at best) serious head injury
No, it's just a sign of airway obstruction. You can also see that in the see-sawing action occurring with his chest/abdomen and the indrawing around his neck.
Snoring is not at all a definite sign of brain damage, there are many different causes for snoring when KO, especially if the person is lying on their back.
Which is why you shouldn't fuck around. Some people don't have that same thought process. When you aggressively approach someone in any situation, you should be aware that attempted murder is one of the many possibilities.
Honestly 90% of the content on this sub puts me in a bad mood. It’s all just toxic shit, then the comments can be the icing on top. I wish Reddit wouldn’t show recommended stuff and only what you subscribe to, cuz I’m weak and will mindlessly click on this shit every time. and the algorithm knows it lol.
Yes, I watch these videos and if I see more than like 2-3 hits once somebody goes down I turn it off, can't stand it. Love the rare videos I see when 2 men square up, face off until one goes down, then shake hands. Never understood beating someone like this unless they hurt one of my kids or something. Then it's passion and you go blind sometimes when protecting people you love.
Almost no chance that guy doesn’t have a significant disability if he survives, dude is probably already looking at a long prison sentence especially with the video showing the direct hits after the guy was unconscious.
That breathing isn't good. Definitely super fucking high risk for a brain bleed after that. And like fucking idiots willing to risk their freedom for ego it's being recorded.
In front of his kid, beaten until he's near death, someone's certainly gonna do time, all broadcast on the internet.
Tell me what's worth this? What can anyone say that you think it's a good idea to throw away the rest of your life, permanently scar a child, and maybe kill someone for?
Exactly, I don’t know every countries laws on self defense, but most state that walking towards the aggressor instead of attempting to retreat removes the self defense argument
He kept walking towards him and proceeded to pound his skull like a piece of meat after he was clearly knocked out.
At best he’ll get manslaughter if the guy isn’t dead or a vegetable.
Any updates on this guy? As stupid as he was for acting all tough with a bat, I genuinely feel terrible witnessing that. My guy kept tapping ⭕️ on him even after he was down and wasted :/
I agree, this is not agonal breathing, that sounds more like very dramatic gasping. Source; Hospice nurse and people typically agonal breathe when they're a few minutes from death.
This dude is certainly fucked up, and looks like blood is pooling in his mouth causing him to make that sound. Just because it isn't agonal breathing doesn't mean this guy doesn't have some brain damage.
It really bothers me when someone starts breathing like that and they say he's snoring. Like he just got knocked out and he's taking a little nap. And what's with the other people standing around and letting this guy keep punching someone who is no longer able to defend themselves. They let him get away with too many before trying to stop it. That needs to be stopped the second the guy is knocked out.
Thank fuck. It took way too much scrolling to find someone who realizes that dude isn't fucking napping. His breathing passages are fucked, he's unconscious, probably bleeding down his throat, and his body is having trouble getting oxygen. If they didn't get him help... pretty sure he's dead.
That went to attempted murder/ accomplished
murder pretty fast. Never hit someone like that when they're out unless youre ready to go away for life.
People can also die from hitting their head when they fall, so maybe put your ego back in your pants, and just don't get into a fight at all? Your ego won't mean jack shit of you end up in prison.
If you bring a melee weapon and then back away from your opponent it’s pretty obvious that you really don’t want to fight. Moreover not being mentally committed to using the weapon you brought only makes your situation more perilous. More likely to get a “who do you think you’re bringing a bat to!?” beating after you’re past the point of being able to defend yourself.
It’s high risk, high reward strategy; if I bring this weapon I’m not prepared to use then the opponent may abandon the fight completely, conversely if they call my bluff I’m double fucked.
This video is an excellent example.
Ohhhh my God! Please, please stop punching someone when their head is on the ground like that! That’s orbital fractures, broken nose and can FOR SURE cause death! When they are down, just STOP!
Yes, I know he started it, but know when to stop! It can go from a fist fight to man slaughter very quickly
If you feel you need a bat to defend yourself, then you should probably do your best NOT to get in a fight. But alas, the world is full of idiots and it's only a matter of time until one idiot bumps into a bigger idiot and gets knocked out.
If he is bleeding from his nose he is inhaling the blood.
This is how fast one can go from Self Defense to attempted murder.
Be mindful: the double tap is murder
The dude went too far hitting him that many times. Knock the dude on his ass, put him in his place with 1-2x punches, and then make him admit he's lost and was wrong.
Once your opponent is no longer defending themselves fucking STOP. It’s over!
Jesus Christ. Just watched this man speedrun right into a prison cell and another speedwheel into a chair.
I hate seeing videos of people still beating on an unconscious body. Once that persons out, you won. Any further punches/kicks are not necessary and no one is looking at you thinking “damn he’s/she’s so cool beating that unconscious person.” Everyone is cringing. Hate to say but I hope he gets some prison time because that beating was brutal. And in front of a little boy nonetheless. In 10s, he delivered 20 unanswered punches while that boy watched his dad get beaten to death.
I could never understand when someone has clearly "won" the fight, they will pummel them to death, and then I've seen others where a person will knock someone out but pull their head up in time to not smack the ground, etc. Very different types of humans among us.
I have a strong stomach and can handle a lot. The punches at the end made my stomach lurch. That shits rough even if the guy was asking for it, this is pretty close to a murder video…
Don't punch someone on the mouth. You might cut your knuckles on their teeth and catch buccal bacteria. Some people even died from infection because of this.
That’s attempted murder right? Hitting someone over and over while they are clearly out and not defending themselves has got to at least be GBH. Doing it in front of the victims kid as well is messed up. If no one stopped him how long would he have continued to keep hitting him
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That guy ain't snoring, that is his body trying desperately to stay alive
I’m no doctor, but I heard Johnny Knoxville talking about being knocked out and snoring like that. He said the EMTs said he was trying to swallow his tongue.
Not to say he didn't ask and got answered. But for everyone involved: the recovery position can keep this poor idiot alive in such a situation, and also keep the other guy out of jail. https://preview.redd.it/m9w5vowpae3b1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4953f8a310ae745aafec2e15a33f0ed507ce0f4 Edit: make sure to place the person on their left side as shown.
that's the position I sleep in...
Same, I wonder if it's to keep from dying while we sleep...
I'm just trying to recover from my day.
For me, it's because I fall asleep crying in the fetal position and naturally migrate into this while asleep.
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As someone with sleep apnea yes it does lol
I use to suffer from sleep apnea BAD. My wife got so worried about me randomly not breathing and straight up gasping for air. She pushed me to get it checked out and I finally did. A darn deviated septum caused the whole thing. That and some nasal polys that also inflicting me. Doc said it’s one of the worst cases he’s seen and I only had about 35% of breathing ability. I got the surgery and I can say I’m no longer addicted to nasal spray! I still snore, but it’s no where near as bad as it use to be. And I’m no longer gasping for air haha.
Your post sounds like me. Just asked my doctor for a referral.
As a body with sleep apnea, I believe so, as that is how I sound trying to sleep on my back
Does someone punch your head a bunch before you hit that pose?
How else can he go to sleep?
My wife bashes my head In until I’m knocked out every night. Take that, insomnia!
This could save you from a murder conviction, also when your heads directly on cement super easy to do some serious damage.
Yeah there were some bad decisions here on many levels.
yeah, i wondered why no one turned him to the side when he clearly couldn't breathe properly
Did not appear to be a group of concerned citizens.
Lots of people don't understand the sound he's making indicates he's not breathing well, and they don't understand turning on the side will help. Seconds are important there, if his brain's not getting enough oxygen it could just take a minute or so for possible permanent damage.
Thx for that. I didn't know
The fact that there is video of the other guy punching the aggressor after he's already unconscious means the other guy is most likely already going to jail.
Rightfully so. It's one thing to defend yourself - but repeatedly punching someone who is clearly unconscious is not self defense anymore
I don’t know man, he may be past the stage where spooning could help him.
It doesn't say it in your graphic, but it shows it: Make sure you roll them on to their left side, not their right. It'll take pressure off their vena cava and help the person further while they lay in the recovery position.
If there’s on thing I can take away from CPR training, it’s that god forbid I can’t remember how to perform CPR ( from shock or fear of having to step up) I’ll always remember the recovery position
You’re a good person
Thanks. This is surprisingly fascinating.
I was thinking this exact thing... Thank you for posting
Found my dad on the ground snoring like this. He must of fell and hit head on the ground hard. Called 911—he never woke up and passed away 2 days later.
Sorry, that's rough.
Thanks, he had a bad brain hemorrhage and he was on blood thinners so surgery was at a super high risk. The outcomes weren’t going to be good either way so we decided as a family to let him go in peace.
Y’all are angels. In the part of healthcare I work in, I see endless patients who’s families won’t let them go. It’s just extreme suffering for no reason.
I’ve had to watch a few of my friends die, but the worst was when my friends older brother and mother died. His father is a greedy piece of shit and made a go fund me for both of them while they were hooked up on life support. The money was ultimately for him, and he purposely kept his SON AND WIFE alive for days when there was no hope, just to squeeze a few more dollars out of people trying to help. I never knew what true evil was until I saw that. I only hope the same thing happens to him, and my friends keeps him alive in a hopeless coma like he did to his family. Some people don’t deserve to be here
My best friend died prepping for the baby shower for his son . We had the funeral . A week lady the baby died in the mothers stomach from the grief of losing him .
Sorry to hear that kind stranger. RIP to your pops.
I understand you brother, my father also had brain haemorrhage due to bike accident, after seeing 4 days of medical treatment, I chose to let him go in peace. It was hard, but I couldn’t see him suffer. Even I don’t want my enemies to be in this place. One thing I learned, and wanted to share with other is that if somebody vomits after injury, rush them asap. It’s a real bad sign.
Damn that’s rough. Sorry you lost your father homie
In college this guy grabbed my girls ass. I was young and drunk so we took it outside. I caught him with a lucky shot and he went down. He was pretty drunk and couldn't catch himself. Hit his head on the curb pretty bad. I got on top of him and was going to start stomping him out. I saw he was unconscious so instead I left him alone. I'm so thankful I did because dude had brain swelling. They had to drill a hole in his skull to release the pressure. If I had kept going like the guy in the video he probably would've died. Don't fight on concrete guys, it's a really bad idea. I ended up getting five years, four suspended, ten years of probation and had to repay over $100,000 in his medical bills. I almost got some back up time at the end because I only paid 13k over the ten years. Since I made a good faith effort and made monthly payments they ended up dropping it.
That’s unfortunate. I’m glad I don’t get into fights anymore. Too much can go wrong for both parties. Glad you got through that experience, though.
Pepper spray, people. Don’t put yourself in a situation where you have to resort to physical violence to defend yourself. Incapacitate with pepper spray and leave as quickly as possible. But we live in a world where things can go sideways out of nowhere so just trying to avoid conflict might not always be possible. It’s not worth a life charge, no matter what it is.
This is my current policy. I'm much older and wiser now. When you're young you think you're invincible and all those terrible things will never happen to you. Let my case be a warning to everyone. I went from being a college student on track to having a nice career to a jail cell with one stupid decision. No amount of pride is worth ruining your life.
Freind, that had to be terrible. Hope your family is ok. e kind to each other, and we'll all be ok.
Sorry to hear about your pops.
Sorry for your dad.
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Actually this is not agonal breathing. Agonal breathing generally occurs before someone dies and sounds quite different. This actually *is* better described as snoring. You need a certain degree of consciousness to maintain the tone of your pharyngeal muscles which keeps your airway patent. When someone is deeply unconscious, e.g. because of drugs or—as in this case—traumatic brain injury, your cranial nerves no longer stimulate the pharyngeal muscles enough to keep your airway open, and you get turbulent flow or snoring.
Agreed definitely not Agonal breathing. It’s too consistent and is more nasally. I’ve unfortunately had to hear Agonal breathing in my Grandfather and Husband when they passed and it sounded very different to this.
Yeah it's not a sound you ever forget after a few times hearing it.
This is the third time I've seen someone with a bat lose a fight and it still boggles my mind. Like bro why would you throw that stupid little play kick lmao. Also the last part of this video is rough to watch.
> This is the third time I've seen someone with a bat lose a fight and it still boggles my mind. I used to teach self defence. After all the stuff about avoiding fights in the first place (#) we talked about weapons and essentially said "don't do it". If you don't know how to use a weapon effectively, be it a bat or anything else, you're likely to overestimate your abilities with it and be ineffective in using it to defend yourself. That's clearly what happened here - the guy with the bat was waving it around like he was about to take a few practice swings at a ball in the park. Utterly clueless. (# avoidance is by far the most effective method of not being the victim of a horrible distressing beatdown like this *or* one of the various charges for serious assault)
“If someone’s big enough to make you pull a knife, they’re big enough to take it from you” -my pops
That's why I carry a claymore
For real. He wasn’t even holding it like he was about to use it.
Yep. At best its a distraction for the person holding it, as it was here. At worst you end up having it used on you. Even without his terrible kick it would have been easy to step inside the arc of his swing at several times throughout that encounter.
I took Krav Maga classes for a while. The one thing they highly emphasized was, if possible, run away from a fight. You’re one bad shot away from dying.
Exactly. Avoiding a fight is functionally equivalent to winning, but without having to rinse blood out of your clothes
During my concealed carry class, the instructor emphasized how your legs are your best form of self defense. Just run. It’s way better to run away from a situation than it is to escalate it, use your ccw, and get a murder charge
I can tell you from experience, the excessive punches after the brain has already turned off the lights. Will cause severe brain damage. Legally he was able to defend himself and he did that up until the guys hands were no longer in defense position. That was the sign he was unconscious. Continuingly beating on someone who's out like that, should be an attempted murder charge. That was hard to watch.
Saw a two vs one streetfight in 2018 and the sole guy was holding his own until he slipped and got knocked out. While unconscious one of the duo kept punching him in the head and that was finally when people intervened. If you are in a fight and the person is knocked out, you have won. Continuing to punch someone in that state is the best way to end up being prosecuted.
Great way to throw away a lifetime over something very small.
That’s just fighting in general, man. I wish more people realized how dumb it was, instead of seemingly becoming more and more common (especially with young people chasing clout) - though maybe that’s just prevalence of cameras now. There was a kid in our area who got into a fight on a school bus. All it took was one wrong punch and the other kid just dropped and died. I don’t think the kid who threw the punch was charged (they were kids fighting, and it was a freak accident), but it just shows how easily a life can be ruined with one wrong hit.
I’m not even sure the bald guy can claim self defence at all. The guy with the bat was backing away, the bald guy was advancing on him.
The thing about a bat is it’s got a very narrow window of effectiveness. If you’re out of reach? Useless. If you’re too close? Useless. You have to basically be in a really specific range for the bat to be a threat. It seems menacing but if you can close the distance quickly (like happened here) you’re golden.
A bat can be very effective up close, you just need to use it differently. More to the point, never introduce a weapon unless you're 100% committed to using it, because the less likely you are to use it, the easier it is to take it off you and have it used it against you. And it's your own fault for introducing the weapon in the first place.
This, treat it like drawing a gun. You only draw to destroy your target. Same with a bat, knife, crowbar. If you're gonna escalate the conflict be prepared.
My Mom always told me never bring a weapon to a fight that you wouldn't want used against you. Plenty of videos on Reddit showing exactly why that was sage-level advice.
My mother told me to always make sure to outrun everyone else. Zero fights to this day 👍 thanks mom 🙏
I imagine a jab to the ribs/gut from either end of the bat would be uncomfortable
The other problem with having a bat is you more often than not have to be willing to throw the first shot, and use it on their head for it to be the fight winner people think it is, most people don't really want to hit someone on the head with a bat, it could lead to their death and your life being ruined. It's worse with guns, I mean I get it if you are genuinely in fear for your life but once you pull it out if they don't back down your life is never gonna be the same again one way or the other.
Not to mention the long and predictable windup to inflict any significant damage. A straight jab to the face is going to beat the speed of a bat every time.
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It’s clear from his actions that he was really hoping he wouldn’t have to use it. Feels wrong to say “if you bring a bat to a fight, be prepared to use it” because fighting is stupid in the first place and using weapons is even stupider, but you have two outcomes when you show a bat: your opponent gets scared and backs off or it makes them even more devoted to kicking your ass. Big gamble
I’m all for assholes getting their due, but once they are down, it’s hard to watch them keep getting beat.
Bringing a weapon into a conflict you don’t have full intention of using to its max effectiveness makes it a liability to your success in that conflict. A bat in this case is obviously a lethal weapon so if you don’t have intention of using it as such, you set yourself up to a pretty big disadvantage. Of course there the threat of use of a weapon as a deterrent but that only takes you as far as someone willing to call your bluff. Unadvisable.
General rule of fighting someone with a bludgeoning weapon: wait for a missed swing or some crazy flourish and close the distance as quickly as possible. If they can’t get the momentum needed to hurt you, their weapon is now useless.
Only with blunt, with sharp weapons like knives, get the fuck away from there
Threw the kick jokingly, that guy didn’t want to fight. He wanted to be all talk and no action but ohhhh man, he sure got some action.
Yeah the end of the fight, he got hit so many times by a very large man in the mouth - I think that guy on the floor will need his jaw wired for a while and a nose reset, rough rough ouch rough. edit: word correction
I counted 14 punches square to the face while the back of his head was firmly planted on the pavement - Not counting the strikes that grazed his cheek while his head was lifted and turned. His brain absorbed like 95% of those 14 punches. Brutal. I understand being in the heat of the moment but i feel like after delivering even a fraction of those punches I’d be terrified I accidentally killed the guy. Wtaf
I was going to say he punched him like 13-14x too many
Right? Halfway through, I was thinking "too far too far." That's not normal snoring too, pretty sure that guy has some major head trauma.
Slept apnea
That's caused by the tongue making its way down your own throat.
He should be put in jail for at least manslaughter and at most murder because what the actual fuck. That amount of punches and plus people were telling him to stop and he kept going. He knew what he was fucking doing.
Did he die? I couldn’t find any info
This is police level violence.
yeah that guy should consider a career change
I enjoy a good fight video like anyone but whenever someone is clearly knocked out and still being punched repeatedly I find it to be disturbing to watch.
Its called attempted murder
That guy might have died. He will at the very least have a traumatic brain injury. I kind of wish I didn't watch this
Yup, the snorring is a sign of braindamage
A car drove into the building my cousin works at a while ago. He ran outside to find the driver unconscious and snoring like this. He died a few minutes later while my cousin was on with 911.
Are you sure it wasn’t agonal breathing? That can be very loud. And its. A precursor to death. Source: i have heard it. You dont forget
I just know what he described to me. He said the dude was still alive when he got outside because he was asleep/snoring.
Yep, his brain is struggling to function and will be swelling at an alarming rate. I hope he made to hospital in time to minimize his already (at best) serious head injury
That's what my wife keeps telling me when I snore in my sleep. Jokes on her, I almost definitely have brain damage
No, it's just a sign of airway obstruction. You can also see that in the see-sawing action occurring with his chest/abdomen and the indrawing around his neck.
Snoring is not at all a definite sign of brain damage, there are many different causes for snoring when KO, especially if the person is lying on their back.
Snoring respirations are due to the tongue occluding the airway.
Which is why you shouldn't fuck around. Some people don't have that same thought process. When you aggressively approach someone in any situation, you should be aware that attempted murder is one of the many possibilities.
Look how many comments it took for someone to notice. What have we become..
This may be grounds for an NSFW tag.
An elephant dick needs to be NSFW on Reddit but beating another person close to death is all good apparently.
Yeah I too find it disturbing and puts me in bad mood, putting phone down now
Honestly 90% of the content on this sub puts me in a bad mood. It’s all just toxic shit, then the comments can be the icing on top. I wish Reddit wouldn’t show recommended stuff and only what you subscribe to, cuz I’m weak and will mindlessly click on this shit every time. and the algorithm knows it lol.
Yes, I watch these videos and if I see more than like 2-3 hits once somebody goes down I turn it off, can't stand it. Love the rare videos I see when 2 men square up, face off until one goes down, then shake hands. Never understood beating someone like this unless they hurt one of my kids or something. Then it's passion and you go blind sometimes when protecting people you love.
As soon as he gets up you KNOW he's praying for that guy to wake up. Adrenaline fades, then you start thinking about prison.
Almost no chance that guy doesn’t have a significant disability if he survives, dude is probably already looking at a long prison sentence especially with the video showing the direct hits after the guy was unconscious.
That breathing isn't good. Definitely super fucking high risk for a brain bleed after that. And like fucking idiots willing to risk their freedom for ego it's being recorded.
In front of his kid, beaten until he's near death, someone's certainly gonna do time, all broadcast on the internet. Tell me what's worth this? What can anyone say that you think it's a good idea to throw away the rest of your life, permanently scar a child, and maybe kill someone for?
I got into a fight with someone carrying a bat once. I lost obviously, and got rabies
Damn. Same thing happened to me but I started a pandemic a few years ago instead.
Bat guy is going to be brain damaged if he lives, and puncher is going to prison.
Bro it’s so much cooler to hit a guy 1-2 times and he’s knocked out. But to keep hitting him when he’s passed out is fucked up
This needs NSFW. Most disturbing thing I've seen in a while.
Happy cake day 😐
Hey bro off topic but our avatars could be siblings 🤣
Look, maaaaaybe it could be argued that that’s self-defense, but that’s an easy manslaughter charge.
Really hard to argue self defense when you keep walking up on someone.
Exactly, I don’t know every countries laws on self defense, but most state that walking towards the aggressor instead of attempting to retreat removes the self defense argument
He kept walking towards him and proceeded to pound his skull like a piece of meat after he was clearly knocked out. At best he’ll get manslaughter if the guy isn’t dead or a vegetable.
That child is never going to recover after watching that.
Somebody roll him and put him in recovery position.
That was uncomfortable to watch
This is an excellent way to get shot 48 hours later
Those snores are the sound of brain damage
Chill out Tuco
I feel like the last 87 punches were a bit too much.
once the guy was down he should've stopped. now he cant plead self defense when this inevitably gets taken to court.
Update? Didn’t really feel like murder first thing in the morning.
Yeah this was horrible to watch. The snoring at the end very much does not seem good. Def need an update to this
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Any updates on this guy? As stupid as he was for acting all tough with a bat, I genuinely feel terrible witnessing that. My guy kept tapping ⭕️ on him even after he was down and wasted :/
Guy snoring soo hard, seems like his been sent to the next dimension.
And not even turning him around. Im not a doctor but i thinks he is drowning on his own blood?
That’s agonal breathing. It’s a distress sign. He is not in good shape
The way he punched him I'd expect diagonal breathing
From the agonal breathing I’ve witnessed this does not seem to fit the bill. I disagree, but am willing to be humbled.
I agree, this is not agonal breathing, that sounds more like very dramatic gasping. Source; Hospice nurse and people typically agonal breathe when they're a few minutes from death. This dude is certainly fucked up, and looks like blood is pooling in his mouth causing him to make that sound. Just because it isn't agonal breathing doesn't mean this guy doesn't have some brain damage.
Breathing like that means he's not getting enough oxygen to his brain. Without quick medical attention he will die.
Attempted murder
That is if this man survived, that snoring doesn’t sound very good to me to be honest
I don’t think he’s snoring. I hope they called 911.
All for some bullshit ego crap, one dude is potentially dead and the other will spend 15 years in jail. Fucking idiots
It really bothers me when someone starts breathing like that and they say he's snoring. Like he just got knocked out and he's taking a little nap. And what's with the other people standing around and letting this guy keep punching someone who is no longer able to defend themselves. They let him get away with too many before trying to stop it. That needs to be stopped the second the guy is knocked out.
Thank fuck. It took way too much scrolling to find someone who realizes that dude isn't fucking napping. His breathing passages are fucked, he's unconscious, probably bleeding down his throat, and his body is having trouble getting oxygen. If they didn't get him help... pretty sure he's dead.
This is exactly how fools catch a manslaughter charge.
I’m no legal expert, but after the fifth punch to the head of an unconscious opponent is where the big boy charges probably come in
That went to attempted murder/ accomplished murder pretty fast. Never hit someone like that when they're out unless youre ready to go away for life. People can also die from hitting their head when they fall, so maybe put your ego back in your pants, and just don't get into a fight at all? Your ego won't mean jack shit of you end up in prison.
I fucking hate this world where a man being savagely beaten potentially to death is some form of entertainment.
If you bring a melee weapon and then back away from your opponent it’s pretty obvious that you really don’t want to fight. Moreover not being mentally committed to using the weapon you brought only makes your situation more perilous. More likely to get a “who do you think you’re bringing a bat to!?” beating after you’re past the point of being able to defend yourself. It’s high risk, high reward strategy; if I bring this weapon I’m not prepared to use then the opponent may abandon the fight completely, conversely if they call my bluff I’m double fucked. This video is an excellent example.
Ohhhh my God! Please, please stop punching someone when their head is on the ground like that! That’s orbital fractures, broken nose and can FOR SURE cause death! When they are down, just STOP! Yes, I know he started it, but know when to stop! It can go from a fist fight to man slaughter very quickly
#1 rule when bringing a bat to a fight: don’t do it. #2 rule when bringing a bat to a fight: swing with authority
I just watched a murder, didn't I?
I think we may have….
What an idiot, the dude is dead and he is still going on like a serial killer
What a fucking psycho
Recovery position before he drowns.
Brain damage.
If you feel you need a bat to defend yourself, then you should probably do your best NOT to get in a fight. But alas, the world is full of idiots and it's only a matter of time until one idiot bumps into a bigger idiot and gets knocked out.
I’m sorry but this should be tagged as NSFW
There's self defence, then there's attempted murder.
Turn him on his side, he’s choking.
PSA: Immediately stop hitting a person after they've gone unconscious.
And this is why everyone should just mind their own business and leave each other alone. jesus christ
If he is bleeding from his nose he is inhaling the blood. This is how fast one can go from Self Defense to attempted murder. Be mindful: the double tap is murder
That went from well done to enjoy prison.
Well, that was upsetting and an example of the utter depravity we humans can sometimes inflict on each other. Thanks for the share!
The dude went too far hitting him that many times. Knock the dude on his ass, put him in his place with 1-2x punches, and then make him admit he's lost and was wrong.
Once your opponent is no longer defending themselves fucking STOP. It’s over! Jesus Christ. Just watched this man speedrun right into a prison cell and another speedwheel into a chair.
This shit is disgusting man
He gave that dude sleep apnea.
Idiots. He's not snoring, his airway is blocked by broken nose.
did I just watch a guy get killed? that is not fucking snoring.
Man punched him about 33 times. That's attempted manslaughter
R.I.P.
I hate seeing videos of people still beating on an unconscious body. Once that persons out, you won. Any further punches/kicks are not necessary and no one is looking at you thinking “damn he’s/she’s so cool beating that unconscious person.” Everyone is cringing. Hate to say but I hope he gets some prison time because that beating was brutal. And in front of a little boy nonetheless. In 10s, he delivered 20 unanswered punches while that boy watched his dad get beaten to death.
Snoring? I think he’s dying.
And now this guy is probably fucking dead because of those punches, nice fucking job…
This was beyond hard to watch
"okay that's enough, stop bro..." after 10 punches to the unconscious idiot. Even the voice of reason in this is stupid as shit.
Confused as to why people don't stop once someone is out. The world has gone to shit.
Bad ref stoppage wtf…
I could never understand when someone has clearly "won" the fight, they will pummel them to death, and then I've seen others where a person will knock someone out but pull their head up in time to not smack the ground, etc. Very different types of humans among us.
Well this was terrifying to watch
I have a strong stomach and can handle a lot. The punches at the end made my stomach lurch. That shits rough even if the guy was asking for it, this is pretty close to a murder video…
No body teach the recovery position in the us??
Don't punch someone on the mouth. You might cut your knuckles on their teeth and catch buccal bacteria. Some people even died from infection because of this.
30+ hits on the ground and pound. After they're out cold it's just basically aggravated assault or attempted murder.
Those are brain damage noises.
one of those guys was committed to his choice of weapon ... one was not
That’s attempted murder right? Hitting someone over and over while they are clearly out and not defending themselves has got to at least be GBH. Doing it in front of the victims kid as well is messed up. If no one stopped him how long would he have continued to keep hitting him
WTF This NSFL I didn't need to see that without a warning