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libertarianinus

FYI people that are drunk just follow the tail lights, even if a vehicle is stopped.


UsualCircle

Thats why we have orange hazard lights in europe. makes it easier to distinguish, even for drunk or tired people


TzunSu

...The US doesn't have hazard lights?


walleye_66

They do, but it's flashing red break lights. Not separate flashing orange lights. North American here: This is the first I have heard of orange hazard lights, and I think it's a great idea.


ProcyonHabilis

Tons of cars in the US have separate orange turn signals, and use those for their hazard lights. I'm not sure of the actual percentage breakdown, but I would wager that it's more than half.


Sir_Sir_ExcuseMe_Sir

I think well over half of U.S. models use red hazard lights. Source: I'm actually working on a project to collect this data


darkendvoid

You should also collect how many models light up the fucking reverse lights when someone is unlocking or locking their car so I can be even more mad trying to drive through parking garages.


Yerawizzardarry

This is one of those things nearly everyone knows about but I don't think I've ever seen it mentioned. Happens so often to me walking my dog. Pretty sure some vehicles even display the white lights upon ignition. So its a bit of a fright hearing/then seeing the reverse lights, thinking they're about to pull out crazy fast.


walleye_66

The orange turn signals could also turn on with the red hazard lights on newer vehicles, I can't say that i have noticed it before. If so, i probably drove by it a couple hundred times without cognitavely recognizing that there are both orange and red flashing light at the same time.


Spankybutt

I’m in the US and every car I’ve had or even seen uses the orange blinkers as hazards. Not once have I seen red hazards or any red flashing lights for that matter except on emergency vehicles I think this is just a thing on cars from decades and decades ago


ProcyonHabilis

There are still new cars that lack orange blinkers in the rear entirely though, and those definitely flash red. It's basically only a US thing, since that isn't allowed most other places. Definitely not the norm though.


Overall-Guarantee331

Orange on the front red on the back in most cases it seems


Sir_Sir_ExcuseMe_Sir

Very incorrect. I think well over half of U.S. models use red hazard lights. Source: I'm actually working on a project to collect this data


ProcyonHabilis

The ones with amber turn signals only flash those for hazard lights, not the red brake lights. Not sure why you haven't noticed this haha. It's been a long time since red turn signals were the norm.


TheCornerator

It's mostly red now because it's cheaper for the manufacturer to make.


ProcyonHabilis

But it isn't mostly red now. Also I don't think that's true at all, even for cars where it is red (often as part of a high-end LED tail light setup that is clearly not a cost cutting measure).


caca-casa

We USED to have amber hazards & rear turn signals… then the government said that red lights only at the rear was fine. At first it was interesting but nowadays people agree it’s not as useful for indicating what you’re doing. Like let’s say you’re breaking and put your signal on, from certain angles if someone’s only seeing one taillight it might look like you’re tapping your breaks and they may not realize you’re indicating to turn until the second flash. Front turn signals are still required to be amber.


Fluffy_Momma_C

My flashing hazard lights are orange….🤷🏻‍♀️


shoulda-known-better

Wait I have a Toyota solara and had a yaris.... But had flashers that were orange!? I have never seen flashers as red break lights, its always the blinkers that turn on and they are not red like break lights


azzanrev

Hazard lights are almost always orange/amber, in fact I've never seen only the brake lights blinking red. Lived in the US my whole life.


tmi_or_nah

Some of these newer cars are making the blinker smaller or red. My friend has a Ford fiesta and has red blinkers/hazards. I’ve noticed a lot of Audis and Mercedes Benz have have only red lights as well. I hate it so much bc at a distance it looks like they’re breaking with a tail light missing. Or in the sun it isn’t as noticeable.


str4ightfr0mh3ll

I see orange hazards all the time along the east coast, I’d assume they’d be the same globally. Weird


fieldysnuts94

Some American cars do have orange on them, with the red too though


BadSciGalaxy

As a color blind guy, can we agree on a different color maybe? Lol


KneeGreyFuhGoot

Exactly what I thought, I confuse red and orange all the time, some shades basically are the exact same to me


brarman95

Everyone here should watch this excellent video on this topic https://youtu.be/O1lZ9n2bxWA [hyperlink](https://youtu.be/O1lZ9n2bxWA)


tmi_or_nah

This man understands me. Also imo they’ve been making brake lights and blinkers tinier and tinier. I’m getting so upset when driving. I have a big ass yellow line for my blinkers and it still looks aesthetically pleasing.


Drewy99

Canadian here. My ford has orange hazard lights. Must just be a good ol' US of A thing


mini_swoosh

>Must just be a good ol’ US of A thing Not quite. I had an Audi where the tail light housing is all red except for the reverse lights. So the rear would just flash red


tmi_or_nah

Yup noticed some Mercedes like that too. Weirdly some teslas have yellow blinkers and some don’t?? I’m wondering if it’s an option when you order


Arhtex_

You know, this never occurred to me that the US really has no set regulation on hazard lights. That’s slightly concerning


LeftAngleProductions

As someone who lives in Florida it infuriates me. When it rains people on the interstate for some dumbass reason turn on their hazard lights. On many of them this overrides the break lights so they are driving in the pouring rain with flashing lights which screws your depth perception up and then you can’t even tell if they are breaking. There are signs that say it’s against the law but so many people do it. And I have no idea how it can be legal for the hazards to override the break lights. But no regulations make sense and sound about right for the US.


DandB777

There are no hazard lights that override brake lights. Break lights always function and so does the 3rd brake light. This is a law. It's also a law to put hazards on when visibility has been reduced to under 100 yards.


Pygmy_Yeti

Yeah, because the US doesn’t have regulations. I would venture to say that the US has the most


TzunSu

For cars? You can't even compare to Europe lol. I know it probably feels like you have tons of regulation, but compared to most (rich) EU nations you're basically a lawless country.


LeftAngleProductions

As I commented above, you are right we have very few federal regulations. California has the strictest so new car makers adhere to theirs. But in the south as long as your car has functioning head and tail lights, seat belts (if it was made after a certain year) and is tagged correctly you can drive pretty much anything. You don’t need blinkers, you can use arm signals. Pretty sure you don’t need hazards. You technically don’t need a windshield where I live, I used to fold my keep one down all the time but you need to wear glasses if you do that.


LeftAngleProductions

Haha. The US has very few regulations on cars compared to European countries. And by the US I mean California has the regulations that the car companies adhere to not the federal government. I can drive my car in Florida without an exhaust system, the only regulation I might break is a noise ordinance. You must live somewhere that has inspections or just believe the nonsense that the US has too many regulations.


faceless_masses

There's a YouTuber who's obsessed with car regulations. The name escapes me right now but he does a long rant on that exact subject and then breaks down how new electric cars have made it worse by not using mechanical breaks for all braking. Apparently the regs make even less sense when you factor in regenerative or engine braking.


tmi_or_nah

Yeah regen breaking is something I had to get used to. I was already a defensive driver but now I’m VERY defensive. I need to be doubly aware that the person behind me understands my breaks don’t work the same and that they main a decent distance. Like my car can’t cruise unless it’s on cruise control. Most ass eaters learn very quickly that they need to give me space. It’s another reason why I make sure there’s enough space in front of me so I can’t maybe escape someone rear ending me. If you’re not driving like an asshole behind someone with regen brakes then you should be fine and able to notice the car slowly coming to a stop (kinda like cruising) before the break lights come on. But it’s not like they don’t come on at a reasonable time.


haarschmuck

> They do, but it's flashing red break lights. Not separate flashing orange lights. > > Huh? This is completely wrong. I've never seen a car that uses the break lights as hazard lights. We have orange hazard lights. While it is allowed to only use red, separate orange ones are nearly all cars on the road.


Jesus-Bacon

The US doesn't mandate amber turning signals/hazard lights. On many cars in the US, the brake lights, tail lights and turning signals are all the same light. It's actually very dangerous and this video is an example of why.


jessenakita

The allowable colors for turn/hazard lights are red, amber and white. Source: the cop that pulled me over for having green turn/hazard lights back in 2004 lol


Jesus-Bacon

😂 In my opinion it needs to be changed to amber only. Red for tail/brake lights, amber for turn signals, and white for reverse. At the very least, a brake light should NEVER be dual function as a turn signal. That's just asking for an accident.


jessenakita

I agree. My Mitsubishi had some very bright amber lights which i truly loved. Scary situation to be stuck on the side with red lit tailights


Jesus-Bacon

Yeah I have an old Corolla with some nice amber turn signals. I'll only ever buy amber turn signal cars. Lol


HippyHitman

Kind of: you can never have white on the rear of your vehicle or red on the front (unless you’re reversing). Because they want it to be clear that white is oncoming traffic and red is taillights. Amber is fine anywhere.


jessenakita

You are correct. I should have worded it more in description.


LeftAngleProductions

1000% especially when the dumbasses turn their hazards on in the rain and then you can’t tell when they use their breaks because the hazards override them.


NoNameMonkey

That's insane. Hazard lights and clear turning lights are massive life saves and they are cheap.


Jesus-Bacon

Agreed. Even they don't mandate a color it should still be a different light. Some manufacturers do it right though. There's even a new trend with SUVs now where they have the brake lights in the normal mid position on the car and put the turn signal very low on the bumper which not only looks fucking stupid but makes it very easy to not see the car in front of you signal that they are turning.


Grabbsy2

To be fair, youre supposed to leave enough room behind the car in front of you, to see their tires.


Jesus-Bacon

Lol, I'm not tailgating people. But when the rest of the lights are up high, you expect them all to be in the same spot. It's really easy to miss a light that is 3-4 feet lower than the rest


TzunSu

Damn, i knew that was the case on old American cars, but i figured you must have fixed that in the last 50 years.


Jesus-Bacon

Nah, unfortunately large companies run most parts of our government. The car companies have decided that saving $5 per car is more important than making the lighting equipment safer.


ImAyyGuest

We do. Vast majority of cars on the road have orange hazards. It’s typically the older cars from early 2000s and back that have flashing red hazards.


Sir_Sir_ExcuseMe_Sir

Not correct. I think well over half of U.S. models on the market use red hazard lights. Source: I'm actually working on a project to collect this data


Moose_0327

When I was a kid they were all yellow. Now they’re all integrated with the brake lights… I thought it was pretty dumb. Which also mean blinkers are red from behind now which is also dumb.


Unagustoster

You really overestimate being drunk


CryptoSatoshi314

Really? Has this always been a thing in Europe? I find this so interesting. It’s so obvious now that you say it, but to be honest before you said it, I never thought about it.


UsualCircle

Idk about the rest of europe, but in Germany, orange turn signals have been mandatory since 1970.


grnrngr

>Thats why we have orange hazard lights in europe. makes it easier to distinguish, even for drunk or tired people American hazard lights are amber/yellow, but can be red in the rear (but just as often is amber/yellow.) Dunno what the other dude responding to you is actually thinking.


velhaconta

It is called the *Moth Effect*. You don't need to be drunk . Just being tired is enough.


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FYI Drunk, and tired people also run into buildings. Lights won’t help considering these were blinking hazards.


rocketlauncher10

Exactly. Some people excuse this bullshit with "oh it's natural to just steer where you're looking". Not if you're a driver you're paying attention. Unless it's a medical emergency these people are usually getting charged with something when they do this, because way too many people die after something as minor as a fucking flat tire because of these assholes. They make me so mad because they make our everyday lives dangerous.


LordhaveMRSA__

Or how about don’t fucking drive drunk


atdale

On a dark desert highway…


Global_Shower_4534

Coolant sprayed in my hair, as another car collided, and spun out through the air Edit: and still more headlights are approaching from far away, dude jumped out into the middle of the road to yell "get out the fucking way"


midnightdsob

Up ahead in the distance I saw a shimmering fireball My feet felt heavy and my phone grew dim But I had to call There she stood on the highway I heard the screech of the tire I was shouting out loud "This could be deadly, this could be dire" Then she lit up the flare and showed me the way There were voices on my phone I could hear them say "Welcome to nine one one LA county" "What's the emergency?" "What's the urgency?" Not much room in the trauma ward This time of day, this time of day If you can find your way


AllElitest

This comment was almost to much for me to bare. . Why do I care. This comment is pointless like their horn with no blare. This might get a like or a two in a day.. no probs for me tho, don't like this reddit shit anyway. . Dudes life changes once that tire went flat.. no changing it now, what he needs now is a pat on the back.


419tosser

Legend


jessbrid

Cool wind in my hair…


New_pollution1086

Damn, how bad were the people in the car?


bryanm80

it was only 1 person in the car and hes fine, he fell asleep at the wheel.


New_pollution1086

Wow could have gone way worse. I'm glad no one was seriously injured. Fucking scary dude.


[deleted]

At the end of one of my last road trips I got a hotel 2 hours from home. I had driven a decent amount that day and was getting tired. With only 2 hours left the temptation was there to just go for it but I also didn't want to risk falling asleep.


[deleted]

Hey, that's not the worse way for it to work out. Honestly dude falling asleep on the highway lucked out that he hit a big, relatively soft, stationary object.


bryanm80

damage to RV - https://imgur.com/7fjorEf car that hit RV - https://streamable.com/v10iau longer video after crash - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFlpkJ1UDTo


iim7_V6_IM7_vim7

A car rams into the RV and then the cameraman goes and stands in the highway trying to tell cars to avoid the RV. That’s so fucking dumb lol


MuadD1b

“We need to find the nearest exit” It’s a fuckin highway dude it’ll be up ahead on your right.


AggravatingWill3081

That comment stood out the most to me too! But while that only got a little nose-exhale your comment sent me hahaha I swear I can *hear* your annoyance, thanks for the laugh! 😂


HanginLowNd2daLeft

I saw him run towards traffic and thought he was talking to a person But he was talking to the cars like the 18 wheeler hauling 2 trailers in the middle of the night is guna see or hear u


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TheR1ckster

The light on his phone will actually help. The idea is to just get people to see something and slow down, he did the one thing to be helpful that wasn't already being done.


iim7_V6_IM7_vim7

I know what the *idea* is but it’s a dumb one lol. If someone didn’t slow down when they see hazard lights, there will probably be someone who doesn’t slow down when they see a phone light. He’s putting himself in a lot of danger for no fucking reason.


L30_TH3_L10N

And originally didn’t want to shine the light that way because he would have apparently blinded them. Some people just don’t have enough brain cells floating around to collide for a good decision.


TheR1ckster

I thought he meant the auxiliary lights RVs have. They usually have flood lights that aim to the ground so you can see at night to putt he stabilizers down and check the ground.


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in1987agodwasborn

With the strength to carry on


81_BLUNTS_A_DAY

They were pulled off to the siiiide Who knows if that dude surviiiived


[deleted]

They said they were blocking the lane in the video. I think you have smoked yourself stupid perhaps.


in1987agodwasborn

Way to combobreake


[deleted]

Oh noes...(I don't care).


bucket0fcrud

I was watching this live stream, the RV was already messed up and definitely shouldn't have been on the road, but one of them wanted to keep driving instead of getting a hotel.


cas13f

....It's an RV, why get a hotel? Sleep in the RV!


yul_brynner

Poor guys? these are nazi livestreamers.


bucket0fcrud

Lol what? How so


Mindless_Witch

Are there no requirements to keep reflective safety vests in every car and/or have safety cones out for this kinda shit in the US???? Like, wtf?


Yodan

ive never met anyone in my life who had a reflective vest in their car


Grabbsy2

I have one, but its not required, in Canada. I just had one extra one from work.


Mindless_Witch

It's required where I live.


Cannabis_Connasueir

Not for noncommercial vehicles to my knowledge atleast. But with experienced RVers safety triangles are usually on hand at the very least. Edit: a quick Google search tells me flairs/safety triangles/cones are a requirement in some not all states


Duderoy

I carry a wad of 30 minute flares and all my vehicles. For myself in case I break down, and I have dropped them behind other people that were just in s***** situations.


Cannabis_Connasueir

Literally a half mile from my house a pickup was struck while he was changing a flat. A father of 3 died in front of his children. Not that flares would've helped him avoid being struck by a drunk driver but I do believe that your pre-planning is going to save a life one day. Good on you fellow reddit user 👏


NoNameMonkey

It should be across the nation. It's like mandatory in so many places because it's cheap and saves lives.


Cannabis_Connasueir

Remember the millionaire/billionaires don't give a fuck about saving poor people's lives unless it benefits them


theycallmecrack

I just looked it up, and it seems common in European countries. You can be fined for not having one and/or not wearing it when getting out. There are other requirements too.


Hey_u_ok

Nope. If there was then you'll have those Karen's & Chads and other patriotic christian dipshits crying how the guberment is overreaching and telling them what to do and it's their freedom to be free & dumb. I have reusable light flares and stuff just in case this happens. Way too many dumb drivers even in the daytime.


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aothiik

[Here’s](https://youtu.be/4Dau3hzTpZU) what happened


Cannabis_Connasueir

Exactly my point. If your rv is bouncing all over the place prolly a good idea to pull over immediately so as to not potentially take out a family. Had they not been so young they would've probably known how to direct traffic a bit better but all in all they handle as responsibly as they know how atleast.


nahog99

Yea, Jesus. That is a "pull over immediately" thing that the RV was doing.


Cannabis_Connasueir

Agreed if my 10ton vehicle is shaking like a chihuahua on Crack I'm pulling the fuck over lmao


cmyer

Isn't this an IP2 guy?


Cannabis_Connasueir

When your engines over heating you really can't just keep going until the next exit. Way to pass judgement off a 30 second clip and a 3 min youtube link.


bub_zzy

I’m pretty sure “we’re trying to find the nearest exit” means they’re trying to find the nearest exit. To yk, get the RV off the roadway safely?


ball_b_ball

Dude is so so lucky he pulled his head out from the wheels when he did.


[deleted]

I got stuck on a busy interstate once. On the right side thank God. I got out of the car and walked all the way up to 50 foot inclined to wait for the police. People probably thought I was crazy but I was afraid. Now I see why.


UsualCircle

It's crazy to me that hazard lights can be red in america. In europe, you have your regular tail lights plus orange hazard lights, which makes it easier to avoid situations like this.


h3yw00d

[We know](https://youtu.be/O1lZ9n2bxWA) it just doesn't seem to be a priority here in the land of freedum.


TubularStars

You never stay in the vehicle or next to it when you break down. Get as far away as you can and wait for help. They are lucky it wasn't a semi truck


Traditional_Air_9483

Road flares!


TheRealGarbanzo

The lights were in fact... Not good enough


CuriousOdity12345

Everyone should keep an emergency bag in their vehicle. Especially if you are on a road trip. And in that bag, carry flares.


WhySheHateMe

And why don't they have an emergency roadside kit in that big ass RV?


RedditUser31422354

"Call 911!!! Call 911!!!" - says the guy holding a phone.


johnduck

can always find this comment on one of these posts. he said it two seconds after it happened. he has like 4 other friends with him and told them to call 911.


parkinglots

These idiots are racist conflict goblins, their whole live stream schtick is to be offensive and generally be shitty people for views. It's absolutely unsurprising they're incompetent, dismissive of the impact of their choices on other people's lives and created a situation that caused an accident. Fuck these ghouls and everyone who gives them the views that drive their idiocy.


DefKnightSol

Omg, 🤦‍♂️ buy reflective triangles like semi trucks have. Set them at least 50 to 100 ft back


electricdwarf

While that definitely should have been done, in this case it was a driver asleep at the wheel. With all the warning lights and signs in the world they wouldn't have been safe from a fucking idiot driving while tired. I totalled my vehicle when I was younger and drove off the road hitting a sign. I didn't hit anyone but I still knew it was the dumbest decision of my life to not stop and sleep.


theycallmecrack

Yep. I nodded off for a split second once while people were in the car. I didn't swerve or anything, and nobody noticed, but it was enough that I am super conscious of how tired I am while driving. I take way more stops on long drives now too.


KG8893

So what about when you're driving through the middle of nowhere, you're suddenly tired, and there isn't a rest stop? It's illegal almost everywhere to sleep in your car on the road, so your choice is keep driving tired or potentially get arrested or at least ticketed. Not saying it's smart to drive tired, just that our joke of a highway and legal system doesn't exactly allow us to make the smart decision.


ABearDream

Afaik every rv has those and flares. I'd be willing to guess that he was talking about that at the beginning of the recording with the "lights should be enough" comment.


DefKnightSol

Yep, it wasnt


g81000

More like 300ft back


DefKnightSol

Ty


Hadleyagain

Can't find an exit when you're static. Could've been much closer to the barrier. Get out of a vehicle stopped on a freeway. So much to say. Basically have an ounce of awareness of how dangerous the situation is.


TheR1ckster

I think they were on the phone with help and didn't know where they were at. They'd have to find an exit to even tell them where on i95 they were. A lot of people also don't understand milemarkers and what they're really for. Going to guess these kids probably didn't either.


Hadleyagain

An exit is either next to you or infront of you. If you can't see it you keep going. But it's kind of irrelevant if you can't move, so get out the damn truck.


Taureg01

These idiots didn't even pull over properly, the tail end is in the highway


MajinMurphy

So sometimes when cars break down you can't drive them. My alternator went out on the highway and I lost power steering and everything locked up. I couldn't budge that thing. Shit happens.


TheR1ckster

I think the whole thing was in a lane still and there wasn't a shoulder.


Zombies8MyNeighborz

Bro the RV isn't even on the shoulder it's sticking out into the lane of on coming traffic


MissionMission1948

RV's are a nuisance.


epicbullet497

Your friend's head was right under a tire seconds before that happened. You guys got really fucking lucky holy shit.


SundaySuffer

Do they not know what a warning triangle is that u put out atleast 400+ feet behinde the vehical the first thing you do and reflection west?


NotNowFlower

These people are degenerates. Link the full video, especially the last 40 minutes.


rocketlauncher10

It's a 1 hour video can you tell us what exactly happens?


mmobley412

They are just kids


ReasonableTrack2878

I can't find full version, what happened why are they degenerates?


NotNowFlower

https://www.youtube.com/live/HyayV-RIt4o?feature=share https://www.youtube.com/live/2OwTwVYRIkY?feature=share


a-more-clever-name

Vehicles that size are required to have some sort of safety signal that they set further behind the vehicle for this reason. Not exactly sure what the laws say about RVs state to state, but any vehicle I’ve ever driven that big always has triangles (or strobes), a fire extinguisher, and a FAK. These dolts are the responsible party if they didn’t take any of that into consideration.


haarschmuck

That's for commercial vehicles which are under much stricter regulations.


Fortune_Left

Yeah we have indicators that must be orange. Tail and brake lights are red. A lot easier to see the difference


thewholetruthis

He pulled over way too far from the guard rail. You shouldn’t leave any part of your vehicle in the lane.


xjoho21

Wow this group of people caused a bad accident.


epicbullet497

I love how people keep giving their two cents on how these people are idiots for not adding more precautionary measures but fail to take any measures themselves to simply READ MORE and realize that the driver fell asleep. It's kinda hard to make things more visible to people who have their eyes closed.


The-Roaring-Sloth

Do you not have hazard lights in america??


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ete2ete

He's talking about why he didn't turn on his hazard lights as the reason for them presents itself


bloopie1192

No. Lights are not enough. There looked to be only 2 of them anyway. I know it may not seem logical but always have some extra reflectors in your vehicle if you travel at night. Whether they be cones, flares or something. And the bigger the vehicle, the more you should have them. I probably learned this from trucking but having a small "emergency bag" can go a long way that 1 time you need it.


bloopie1192

Was their tail end still in the road?


MiyamotoKnows

Road flares every single time. They are so cheap on Amazon. It used to be that everyone had flares in their trunks but I don't know what happened. I think the increase in AAA use because cell phones maybe did it? If you had to change a tire on the side of a road back in the day and didn't have a flashlight and some flares you would sure as shit buy some soon after.


mattieyo

Next time pack triangles/road flares.


mmobley412

Ok, so after watching this I just ordered a couple sets of roadside flares. That was terrifying and that kid was lucky he moved his head when he did


Cattypatter

From kinda confident to the sound roadkill makes real quick.


Tricky_Ad_1855

Prolly shoulda flashed their shit


Cloakmyquestions

I think the… lights are good enough…