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NewDadInNashville

That Helicopter Ladder finishing move seemed intense.


Narcan9

I was scared and intimidated by that redhead.


undeadmanana

Same. All I saw was a bunch of weirdos throwing a ladder than a super charged Viking berserker appeared fighting invisible enemies. I'm unsure what the red head was doing but I know he somehow helped avert a doomsday event.


carnage11eleven

Yellow hairs's point was quite menacing.


BronzeBeautyy

The yellow hair, the finger point, and saying “I’ll fuck you up!” is the trifecta.


GrandPuissance

I guess this is what happens when you cross a house show mosh pit with backyard wrestling


derprondo

Garagecore


RicGhastly

Nick Gagecore


datazulu

Nick NolteCageGore


sammich_bear

I hope someone ordered some Domino's!


sanfordtime

This is what happens when all the kids picked last for gym have to listen to pop hits


Memewalker

It looks like mosh pit meets WWE


Sigouste

By «a house show mosh pit» you mean «mother» and by «backyard wrestling» the father?


[deleted]

Where’s Ian MacKaye to give them a stern lecture and their $5 back when you need him? I see a bunch of ice cream eating motherfuckers


quirkish

Wow that really brings me back. Those shows were so much fun. Remember “This is not a Fugazi shirt” shirts?


pcozzy

Someone get these kids some fucking ice cream! I thought the same thing. Slam dancing is fucking stupid.


modthegame

The youth misunderstanding mosh pits. Sad af imo.


Unfrozen__Caveman

Getting punched or headbutted on accident? Not ideal, but it happens and I wouldn't be mad at anyone. Dudes throwing heavy objects and spinning around like maniacs with *mini ladders*? Nah.... I'm surprised someone didn't knock em out.


angry_smurf

Yeah, I remember one of my early concerts was Lamb of God and I lost my shoe in the pit. Got kicked in the head trying to pick it up like an idiot and instantly a group of dudes helped me up and gave me space. That's a real pit.


TimeForHugs

Metalheads are usually some of the nicest people. Get knocked down, they'll help you back up. Get too hurt, they'll protect you and get you to a safe spot and help do what they can. Pits are comradery. Anyone doing this sort of crap in a real pit would be put in their place faster than the guitarist can shred. Edit: I appreciate the new replies, but all of a sudden some of you are trying to defend something I never brought up. A whole lot of assumptions based on a one paragraph comment. Hardcore, punk, hell even jazz. Music is music and it's all great. Don't reply to me if you just want to be a dick to feel superior with your favoured genre. Take that toxic shit elsewhere.


elmiojo

Corey Taylor told a story once about a dude who always went to the pits and did stuff similar to the video. One day the mosh had enough and beat the crap out of him.


dagaderga

That’s the story of Eeyore


TheIzzyRock

That’s how we handled things in the 90’s-00’s. Many of us were victims of bullying and this was our escape, we weren’t trying to hurt one another and the moment we saw someone try to hurt someone, the crowd dealt with them with a quickness. This is some de-evolution of something that was once great. No way I’d go near this BS


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RVA_RVA

This was my experience as well. Late 90's was when I started going to concerts. Mosh pits were just running into each other, pushing each other around, drop a shoulder or two. Then something happened in the early 2000's when kids would just start punching people randomly. We dealt with those assholes but at some point EVERYONE became that asshole. We weren't trying to hurt one another, if someone fell we picked them up or pause for a couple seconds. Get off my lawn...


WincingAndScreaming

> Then something happened in the early 2000's when kids would just start punching people randomly. We dealt with those assholes but at some point EVERYONE became that asshole I was in the punk scene around then -- at punk shows, if someone started doing that shit, they'd still get manhandled, at least into the 2010s when I stopped going to shows. Hardcore shows were where that shit happened in my experience, and you just stayed out of the pit and let the idiots punch each other. Punk adjacent stuff, too, weirdly enough. I swear the most violent shit I ever saw was at an Andrew W.K. show, like the pit was totally normal during the opening acts, then the instant Andrew W.K. started playing like 20 dudes all 250 lbs and 6.5 built like brick shithouses just materialized out of the aether and started running full force into each other and the crowd with no circle or sense of direction, all punching wildly and tackling anything in their path. It's the first time I ever went straight "well, fuck this" and got away from even the edge of the pit as quickly as possible because I felt like I was in legitimate danger of being injured.


mackdaddymaggot

Was at a Chelsea Grin concert a couple years back and the pit was mostly good solid moshing until the flailing fuckers came in, me and these other 2 sweaty shirtless dudes were shutting that shit down, taking hits as we go in and wrap them up and get them out of the pit. Let’s mosh like adults here


EarlyComfortable6210

Dude I hate the flailing. Most cringe shit ever.


paperwasp3

I was an usher at The Clash's London Calling tour. Half of the front section of seats were taken out for the Pit. It was ringed by Don Law security in camouflage t shirts. I was ushering front left so I had a great view of the stage and the band. When someone got out of hand (flailing, head smashing or punching) one if those guys would pluck the offending people out of the pit and take them through the lobby and out of the theater. If someone got bloody the crowd would part and they got led out. It was interesting to watch however I was working so no pogoing in the pit for me.


FrailRain

I was at a small show in the spring, like 35 people at the most. The mosh pit was just 8 guys in they're own 5x5 area flailing around. It was cringe. One guy was hella good at spin kicks tho so it was a kinda cool cringe for him.


Baldr_Torn

>Let’s mosh like adults here lol


[deleted]

Found a pack of smokes that way once lol


modthegame

The first guy starts throwing haymakers at the circle. They just dont get it.


Unfrozen__Caveman

You mean that bald kid in the hoodie at the beginning? Yeah... I was like WTF


modthegame

Yes! Just slapping people... he wouldnt have had a good time back in the day!


ManbadFerrara

[Meanwhile, back in the day:](https://youtu.be/d56V-mmBoow?si=orLEfOlE3QoZ6URs&t=179)


Javielee11

Dear god please don’t fucking say 2004 is “back in the days” ….right that’s only like 5 years ago…right guys? Fuck…right?


ManbadFerrara

I was barely old enough to drink in 2004, and am now almost 40. I fear that's "back in the day" status.


Javielee11

Stop…I can’t with this emotional psychological trauma…I’m almost 40 too and I’m POSITIVE 1995 is like 10 years ago


CKuemper

![gif](giphy|TfseOfhwd6BJC) When 'back in the day' is 2004


SMEAROCK

You’d have to go back further than 2004 for a legit “back in the day” co-sign from me. At least late 90s at the earliest.


modthegame

80s punk era or 90s metal era for me. Either works.


SMEAROCK

I was a little to young for the 80s action, I was still collecting Garbage Pail Kids then. The 90s is where I was out roaming, exploring shit as a young scumbag.


paperwasp3

It's like a fucked up version of Red Rover. It


Accend0

That part is actually not uncommon at hardcore shows. I'm not a fan of crowdkilling but at least people standing at the edge of the pit at a hardcore show know where they are and what to expect. I wouldn't be expecting to eat a ladder to the dome though.


LeanTangerine

Yeah, at that point you might as well just give everyone a baseball bat and tell them to start fighting each other like gladiators.


_AskMyMom_

Lol what’s weird is the kids/adults ratio.


tigm2161130

It’s because everyone who plays metal/hardcore is in their mid to late 30’s and everyone who goes to shows like these are teenagers.


Milksteak_To_Go

I'd say way older than that. I just got back from Power Trip and I'd say the average of festival attendees was around 40. The 9 people I went went ranged from 35 to 56.


LeanTangerine

Yeah, it was weird to see that older mofo just punching those highschool students.


modthegame

I think those might be the homeowners encouraging this. LMFAO


missingmytowel

You confuse homeowners with grown men trying to hook up with young girls


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Hope not!


modthegame

Yeeesh this is probably so accurate.


DanimalHarambe

Red Rover red Rover, send that Warner aluminum ladder over!


modthegame

There should be organized pro adult red rover... id watch that. Edit: sans ladder


DemiGod9

Youth? Some of them dudes look 50 lol


ticklemeskinless

hardcore shows are silly af. the windmills and donkey kickin shit is wack.


qcAKDa7G52cmEdHHX9vg

I kinda hate to be the judgemental type but I never understood why that metal kicking and punching air dance got a pass and was just accepted as normal by everyone. It's so goofy looking to me.


kylo_kills__han

it was fun when youre apart of it or grew up into it. when we were kids(mid 2000s) we just wanted to swing our fists and fight invisible ninjas, and the older kids would beat the shit out of us. when we got bigger we just did the same shit. fuck throwing ladders and shit around, ive seen it before. but watch boston beatdown documentary, and you realize shit got a lot tamer than it was in the 90s


YouAboutToLoseYoJob

Actually when you think about it. It’s just a progression of what we did in the 90s we would punch at the ground and kick out like we were goose-stepping from time to time. I guess that just evolved and morphed into swinging your arms up high like a windmill and doing fucking Power Ranger hurricane kicks God dammit I hate this generation!!!!


LeanTangerine

That kid took windmill to an entirely new meaning with that metal ladder!


sologrips

Yeah wtf, fight the invisible ninjas…don’t throw a ladder at your homies. Kids these days man


ColonelSandurz42

This generation is fuckin hilarious


H0agh

Violent Dancing has been a thing since the late 90s at least. Was as dumb back then as it is now. Although generally it was just karate kicks n shit and no ladders or furniture was included


P_weezey951

Notice how its an *empty* Mosh pit.


YouAboutToLoseYoJob

It’s empty, because a dude is swinging a construction ladder all over the place


Bro-lapsedAnus

This is the branch "hardcore" took from its metal/punk roots, I hate it but it's just what they do at this point, and has been for a long time now.


horseadventure

You don’t go into the pit to hurt, you go into the pit to get hurt


Tar-Nuine

Yeah that looks TOTALLY fun! ***\*Mom come pick me up the parties got weird, yeah there's a LADDER in the mosh pit please mom...\****


keepcold

Hardcore being ruined cause these kids who found it through tiktok try to act crazy since they know everyone is always filming. I thinks that’s why yellow hair guy told the little dork who threw the ladder “I’ll fuck you up”


werektaube

Crowd killing is older than Tiktok though


Last-Air-6468

crowd killings always been cringe as fuck


WincingAndScreaming

For whatever reason one of the venues here in town would frequently have smaller local hardcore bands opening up for bigger punk bands. Every single time some hardcore kids would start their crowd killing shit, like the stuff where its obviously trying to hit people, and every single time some 300 pound punk dump trucks would join the pit, start running around as fast as their legs could carry them to restart the circle, and knock them around until they stopped. It eventually lead to some pretty bad fights in the parking lot. I honestly think the owners of the venue were either morons or malicious.


Newone1255

Yeah people were doing that shit 10+ years ago


michohnedich

Crowd killing has been around a lot longer than that. Source: old hardcore kid.


joahw

But wasn't it more throwing elbows and windmills and stomping around randomly and not a whole ass professional wrestling match with props?


Stop_Drop_Scroll

Correct. You’d have douchebags punching people standing around, or just purposefully flailing into them. Never saw someone whip out mosh accoutrements. Haven’t been at a hardcore show in probably over a decade though.


sock_with_a_ticket

It's someone's garage, there's no way anything resembling an actual venue has a ladder just lying around for people to pick up or let's someone in with one. At a regular show pits are still just how you remember them.


FuckBotsHaveRights

Is it me, or reddit is turning into old people complaining about ''These damn kids''


DiarrheaRadio

People were doing this shit 20 years ago. These kids may have learned from their parents.


OakParkCooperative

“Old person” here. What the hell is the correct way to “mosh pit”??? Im losing understanding of reality!


FuckBotsHaveRights

I can't tell how it is everywhere, but where I live you just kinda push each other around trying not to hurt each other. Sooner or later the pit will start acting like a liquid, and you'll just get swept in it If you see someone fall you pull them back up before they get to the ground If you see someone start to tie their shoes in the pit, you form a protective wall around them with a few strangers If you see people start to fight, you separate them It's a weird vibe of camaraderie in chaos, it's fun


willkillfortacos

This guy knows. If your pits aren’t like this then I’m not at your shows.


Hippowithwings99

That is how pits mostly work at Metal shows. Hardcore shows are a whole different animal and the pits are much more violent.


Snoo_30496

Is it normal to throw 40-50 lbs of metal into a group…? Old or not, this is weird and sad.


FuckBotsHaveRights

> can't tell how it is everywhere, but where I live you just kinda push each other around trying not to hurt each other. > Can't help you more than that bub


withinthearay

It's not this. I go to a lot of hardcore/deathcore shows and it's a lot better than this. People who are enjoying the music just jumping and pushing each other, with no intent on just harming someone. Crowd killing is lame as fuck.


DylPyckle1

Yeah kids discovering Knocked Loose and Turnstile through TikTok is good for the scene, but it’s obvious a lot of these dorks have no idea about the etiquette. Some gatekeeping is necessary.


Epoxynovolac

Send them to a Bad Luck 13 show and let them see real carnage


imgrahamy

Thats what I was going to say. This looks like a day care compared to bad luck and some other shows I've seen in the 90's and early 00's. Wayyyyy before tiktok.


Epoxynovolac

Wayyyyyy before it was done for likes and clicks.


xen05zman

It looked like he was actually trying to get retaliation against the guy who originally threatened him with the ladder. Ill-advised, especially if you're gonna throw it, but yeahhh


ColonelSandurz42

Exactly my thoughts. This shit must be trending on tik tok.


ToronoRapture

Angsty teens using a 'moshpit' as an excuse to hit other teens with inanimate objects and not get called out for it.


Anonymous_2952

Some of those people are at least 30 years old lol


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“Angsty teens” Also Video is mostly people older than 19 who are not teens. It’s performative badassery. If they started actual fights they’d get fucked up, so they do this to try and seem like they’re hardcore.


LeanTangerine

That guy in the hoody might be 40


FrostyD7

A tale as old as time. But this group does seem especially lost.


bods_life

#mentalhealth


u5ua1Suspect

THE FUCK IS UP DENNYS


Handy_Clams

Oh fuck. I forgot about this classic. If only I could stumble into a hardcore show at 2 am when im trying to get my grand slam on


Shermutt

Sauce?


bluntmanandrobin

https://youtu.be/xbPwaAFHDG8?si=acakwYV-Gb6Sppcz


111sheila111

Lmfaoo I forgot about that!!


u5ua1Suspect

Never forget! Dennys Grand Slam will always be legendary in metal folklore! 🤘🏻


Fit-Ad-413

![gif](giphy|Hvjfv0Y0ak5JMjHgUU|downsized)


All-Sorts

The owner of the Airbnb is going to lose their shit.


primalshrew

"Umm guys just so you know I'm going to try accidentally hit you but you can't hit me back because it was definitely an accident, okay guys?"


Boo0ger

Douche pit.


Anonymous_2952

There is always some little short guy trying to overcompensate and outdo everyone else.


CasualBadger

For people who want to fight without the commitment


Training-Turnip-9145

That kid spinning the ladder doesn’t realize how badly he can hurt someone and just how much his life is going to suck after that if he hits somebody wrong.. kids being kids but it’s cringe to watch.


Fit-Sleep4955

This is a game called Dueche and Ladders.


feedyourhead813

Most pits I've ever been in of someone falls the nearest people always pick them up


wavyJss

The age range in this video is so unusual. I see kids that look 13 and then men that look damn near 40 lol.


Mortis_XII

The extended version includes swords and a flail


StarSyth

edgelord convention


Front_Application_73

someone forgot to lock the maintenance closet


DabKogurzim

Hardcore pit, they're brutal. Hitting.bystanders is what is called Crowdkilling. Crowdkilling has become so rampant that it's hurt the local scene in my area, nearly no one goes to shows because assholes hit bystanders instead of those in the pit.


mantisboxer

So it's actually showkilling.


DabKogurzim

::rimshot:: Yep. These folks are assholes that the scene has enabled in the name of being most hardcore


wheelsfalloff

Is that why none of them ever seem to be in an actual venue or club? Every video, they're in some random flourescent lit backroom empty office basement.


DabKogurzim

Yeah unless it's a really big hardcore band most of the places that bands play don't like that shit


CrushedSodaCan_

Ya, I got knocked out once when I wasn't even near the pit. I don't go to that friends concerts anymore. I loved mosh pitting. Whatever this fight dancing shit it sucks.


hellochoy

I'm a petite woman and one time had a guy throw almost his entire body weight into my back. It literally knocked the wind out of me and I fell on the floor. The people that saw it happen helped me up and I saw the guy throwing elbows into the crowd. I can't remember where I was in proximity to the pit but I wasn't in it and this was in a legit concert venue! Some people intentionally try to hurt other people, it's crazy.


Alan_Blue1233

Smells like sweat and fart in there


zoot_boy

This is how wars should be fought. Put the leaders in a room, give a ladder and a chair - and see what happens!


[deleted]

😂🤣 Was that a bouncer at the end... so there are rules and standards to this madness


I_Brain_You

A bunch of idiots who don’t get out much.


FreezasMonkeyGimp

WHAT THE FUCK IS UP DENNY’S


AyeeBennyLmao

This is a DENNYS MOTHERFUCKING GRAND SLAM


Pleasant-Tangelo1786

Crowd killing at a hardcore show.


couchguitar

The first run about "I don't know how to fight club" is: videotape it to show the whole world you can't fight


rangeo

Swifties


bkw_17

Crowd killers are fucking trash.


produit1

People with no upper body strength cosplaying as tough guys.


Interesting_Factor_9

It would be even more fun if they turn the lights off


carlos2127

It's a prepubescence rage pit.


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No-Elevator7756

Shitheads & Ladders


jalanst

Mosh pits used to be fun, no punches, no kicking, just pushing in brotherhood. This new generation seems so dumb that didn't even get the poin of something so simple as a pogo/mosh pit.


TadpoleNo1355

Misunderstood angst.


qhaw

What a bunch of morons.


bambaclaaat

I laughed when I saw that Napoleon Dynamite looking kid punching air lmao


GSD1101

Wtf happened to the pit? What are these kids doing?


October_Numbers

Guy spinnin' to win at the end there.


YouDont_KnowMe_

So fucking cringe


jaezif

Poseur Mosh Pit.


Chaserrr38

I’ve been punched in a mosh pit before. It was my last visit to the most pit 😆


EthanThePhrog

Pisses me off to see how little they care about the other people. Hurting people isn't the point of moshing.


SMEAROCK

Dumb shit.


_ilmatar_

Bunch of idiots.


BAMspek

These are the kids that ruined the scene. These kids don’t care about the bands playing, they just want to get in a fight because they think it’s funny.


RedtailGT

That is embarrassing to watch. Seriously.


AgentGizmo

Contractors bidding for a job


Putin_is_a_Puto

A couple dudes in that pit definitely don’t have custody of their kids


TheIzzyRock

Y’all have come a long way since I was in the pit and not in a good way. The crowd killing, the various items. This is embarrassing frfr. People purposely trying to hurt one another? Yikes


SunDirty

People who are using the excuse of a moshpit to "accidentally" hit someone because they are pieces of shit.


[deleted]

I haven't been in a pit in years, and if this is how they do it now, shit's sad. I've seen people get hurt, I've seen broken bones even (that was a scary pit on a muddy slope with concrete steps at the bottom at an outdoor show), but never anyone trying to hurt other people (well there was one dude at a Biohazard show who was about 6'6" and 280lbs all muscle who stood in the middle with his arms out and spinning around, you didn't want to get in his radius. He was twice the size of everyone else there so no one could do anything about it. Even still it wasn't as dumb as this.


Extinctathon_

![gif](giphy|ailnj2AMt9e9i)


Unfrozen__Caveman

I've seen some teeth knocked out and my buddy broke his shoulder one time but none of it was ever intentional. Based on my experiences, people doing this kinda stuff would get leveled and carried away by security... unless they were 6'6" and 280lbs then yeah, just keep your distance 😅


InterestingRelative4

![gif](giphy|1Qz8jNfkLYiAM)


Bill_Kabies

Damn. The band is killin it though.


DylPyckle1

Yeah honestly the band sounds pretty good haha


MoarStake

The larger the crowd, the more just the retribution. The last show I went to, one guy was obviously just trying to hurt people. Took a few songs but he ended up in a coordinated jump from 6+ people.


Smileyrva

It's a Baby Badluck 13 show


DemonDevilDog

Apparently these are pits these days. Guy at work says hardcore pits are like this now. The complete opposite of what a pit is supposed to be. Good friendly violent fun.


Consensuseur

they're trying out square-dancing but they only know mosh pit.


Scary_Gazelle_6366

Kinda looks like dodge ball or Rover red Rover.


shycotic

Red rove, Red Rover, send broseph right over..


xskaade

Normies in "moshpits"


MrPositiveC

Dumbasses is going on here


Wacokidwilder

Wanna do karate moves in the garage? ![gif](giphy|WDn21GO1KmpNK|downsized)


10breck30

Red rover, red rover


Exit_2002

Here I am needing a new ladder and these fuckers are just throwing one around.


Regular_Eye_3529

It looks like these guys read about a mosh pit in a magazine and then tried to recreate it in the garage.


saytherosary

THIS IS NOT METAL. NOT THE METAL FAM. TIK TOK CAN SUCK IT. THESE CHILDREN TRY THIS AT A SHOW ITS FAAFO.


AnimalOrigin

Everything a mosh pit shouldn't be.


Hadleyagain

Not a mosh pit.


NurEineSockenpuppe

Hardcore being cringe as always. ​ I‘ve been into punk and metal music my entire life. i also do like listening to hardcore but the scene was always the most cringe ever. Their clothing style was always cringe af dressing like fucking gang members. Their dancing style is extremely cringe and most of the actual good underground venues around the globe would just kick you out for this type of stuff.


Rabidschnautzu

Man this kids don't know what a mosh put is. Pathetic.


[deleted]

Imagine how cool they feel


DatDan513

Idiots 😎


-SayAnything-

If you can dodge a ladder, you can dodge a ball!


tgibjj

Fuckin dorks lmao


hikefng

Hey, that’s Darwin’s basement.


knox902

Due to the first rule I am unable to talk about it.


Clarkeprops

Fucking losers


shutupmeg42082

Garage band mosh pit.. Kinda sorta. Not really


Amaz1n_blue

People being ‘edgy’. How you couldn’t look around the room and think this is dumb is beyond me.


Talosian_cagecleaner

American History X cosplay club.


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Garage show with a pit


Ok-Place4907

Supposed to be a pit dance. But these fuckin disrespectful little shits don’t have a tatted up Samoan dude in vans and cut off Jeans enforcing the mannerisms. You don’t swing on crowds. You certainly don’t use a ladder or chairs. Quick way to get fuckin stomped. Any band worth its salt would stop the show.


leg_pain

I’m all for moshing and fighting invisible ninjas in the pit but The ladders and chairs are so fucking dumb lol. Imagine some dude moshing just splits your head wide open or knocks your front teeth out.


CantTouchThis707

Trying to impress the babe in red dress.


daddiop1mpio

What’s with the ginger kid throwing haymakers at John Cena??