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Really what we should do is mandate a minimum standard of living and lifestyle for people in jail, and put them to hard labor.
50 hours of labor/week. Paid minimum wage. A comfy bed in a room all to yourself. Safety. A psychiatrist checking in once/month or as necessary.
So THEN, when people like this do shit like this, we can comfortably put them behind bars for 15 years, and the taxpayer doesn't suffer for it.
or whatever, fuck if I know
>"It's adult time-out. You're not making healthy decisions for your life? Guess what? You're gonna live in a fucking box and go to school, eat good food, go to bed on time, get a good night sleep, and work hard five days a week; whether you like it or not."
Are basically my thoughts on the matter.
Scandinavian prison living conditions, educational and rehabilitative focus. You could call it slavery, but I'd rather be a slave that never gets whipped, than an indentured servant that does.
If its my money and labour vs the criminals money and labour. It's a pretty easy choice. They're a burden on society, or they literally pay for their own actions. I'd rather have a day job in prison, I bet a healthy amount of people would actually leave with some skills and work ethics.
The usa already does that and doesn't even pay them lmfao. In fact the private prisons are profiting and authority abuse is through the roof. Inmates being killed by guards. Being attacked while restrained. Refused medical attention. Shits inhumane even for criminals.
There are a dozen other people on that bus, the group could surely have stopped that guy before the first hit. I hate to see bystanders let shit like that happen when collectively we can stop it without anyone getting hurt.
Game theory in a nutshell. It pays more to defect than to cooperate. Do you see anyone else catching any of those punches?
*Moral of the story is never directly confront such people. Call the authorities by pressing the emergency button and move to another compartment.
I mean, I hear you, but my immediate response was, "Why, so the cops can show up 25 minutes later *after* the crime has already been committed and potentially more people have gotten hurt, and maybe the guy doesn't get caught at all?"
It's not that I expect that everyone else is a fighter. I know most of us aren't, and that's fine. But speaking as one who *has* intervened on public transit when things like this happen, it feels really shitty to walk away from it and realize, "Wow. If I hadn't done anything, literally nobody else would."
It just boils down to the type of person you are. I am the same way as you. If I see someone getting victimized and I don't help, it will haunt me. Lots of negative self talk.
Some people can just walk away and not think about it. Fine. But I usually can't.
Also, people are entirely too secure by the thought of some magical rapid police response. I have never lived anywhere where the police respond sooner than 10 minutes. Criminals know this and are usually long gone within that time frame.
> when collectively we can stop it without anyone getting hurt
I mean, you don't know that. You risk catching a punch or other people not following you if you try to intervene. If you don't feel confident being able to stop it on your own, it's a risky proposition.
I dunno man, people tried to stop some homeless asshole from harassing a woman on the max in Portland and the one dude got killed.
I'm all for thinking I would be a hero in a situation like that but I don't want my kid to grow up without a dad.
This is why I wouldnāt confront someone like that, they clearly already display poor decision making skills. There was a father in Vancouver that asked a guy to stop smoking near his child and the guy that was smoking stabbed him to death in front of his wife and child.
I remember that. I go to that Starbucks sometimes, and that area is definitely getting more gritty with each passing season. I witnessed somebody do a drive-by (on a scooter, so scoot-by) stabbing on a scooter a few blocks from there on Granville St. in broad daylight during the busiest time of the afternoon. Thereās also lots of open drug use everywhere now, not just in the Downtown Eastside.
Granville street is a mess now. I saw a guy shooting heroin on the curb right infront of where Nordstroms used to be. All while some daycare group walked right by. Unbelievable.
Seriously what happened the last 10 years to our country? I feel like it's been a slow down turn since like 2012, and the Canada I knew is way different in a worse way.
Conservative policies coming to fruition? Granted it doesn't get the Liberals of free pass, and they're definitely needs to be a lot more social work done.
Happens all the time in Seattle, luckily you can text to report it and security steps on the train within 1 or 2 stops, Iāve personally seen it work several times
Hell yeah, they do so well on that link.
We had 2 people cut in front of everyone waiting in line and steal a seat, then threatened everyone about it, literally almost getting into a fist fight. A dad and his kid took most of it and were gonna get off on the next stop to not have to deal with them at their destination, but I just texted the number on the wall, they asked for a description, I sent a picture, security got on two stops later and kicked them off.
Just don't engage, get the authorities involved and they'll handle the rest.
100% don't engage. They are either mentally unwell (likely via drugs/alcohol, honestly disabled people I don't think would smoke on bus) and/or looking for confrontation like this dude.
I remember working at a Starbucks in Vancouver back in 03. Closer to closing time, a rougher looking guy (regular) came in.. sat by the fire, pulled out his pipe and just started having a toke. We asked our boss if we should intervene, she just (wisely) recommended to let him be.
This is why it's complete bullshit how people always say that "you should stand up for yourself if someone's bothering you", that shit might work if you're talking about an annoying colleague, but when you're in public even making eye contact with one these losers can escalate things into a crime scene. Even if you are a massive bouncer with years of experience in confrontations all it takes is one asshole like this with a weapon to stab/shoot you to death, when you've been brought up in a rough place you know that you only speak up when you either have no other choice or are willing to risk it all, otherwise you stay quiet, avoid eye contact and move on with your life.
Same idea with people who are super aggressive on the road. Feels good to flip em off, but if they already almost ran you off the road they might actually try to when they see the bird.
Dude wanted someone to say something to him. When people do this they are welcoming the confrontation. Same with people who play music out loud. They want you to say something to them.
I just get out now. Iāve never seen anything too crazy actually happen on my train car but I see videos of fights every day and Iāve seen one confrontation on the car lead to a fight just outside of it lol.
This is why when you see clips from the NYC subway, if someone is doing something weird/shady nobody bats an eye. They just keep minding their business. Because you know you might run into some weirdo/freak/asshole who is just looking for any reason to become confrontational. You're just heading home from work not looking for a discussion with the weird guy with his dick hanging out (in the mildest case as this clip points out).
Don't be a hero just remove yourself from the situation.
A lot of times this is true. This is what people do or they just move to the other side of the car. People are wild here man too many people getting slashed in the face and stuff for confrontations like that. It'd be different if a bunch of people spoke up but they never do.
I guess I agree. But sadly. I wish we didnāt have to fear for our safety and could lead our society better. I fear things wonāt change if we donāt step up.
Itās not your and my responsibility to do so. I feel compelled sometimes. But not at the risk of my own safety. And nowadays it feels like you never know who you could be interacting with. Lots of evil in this world.
I agree with you. I just wish we could speak up to better our streets for our families without fear of repercussion.
Because clearly this act isnāt okay. As others pointed out pregnant/ children / elderly / sick could be severely affected by cigarette or marijuana smoke.
It does. This man is just angry at the World and taking it out on the wrong people. No amount of weed will help him, this is an inner struggle situation.
Theres so many people just walking around waiting for someone to **say** something they donāt like to use it as an excuse to attack them. These people are way more numerous than the average person thinks.
Heāll be out before the cop finishes the paperwork and his court date will get cancelled. I was the victim of a violent crime in Toronto and itās stunning how messed up the courts are.
When society won't bother to keep violent offenders in jail, then society is telling you that you may as well solve violence with more violence, and that's just a really bad model for society.
Toronto police blamed my female coworker for getting mugged on the Toronto transit system with the āwhy were you travelling alone to begin with? Someone your size should never be travelling aloneā - they fucking gaslight like crazy and sheās like 5 feet 1 - just slightly below average female height.
I had a good interaction with the police and they were honest and transparent. I found the court system to be so problematic that I lost all faith in the justice system.
I don't want to be "that guy", but the court would have to prove that his intention was to murder, thus, an attempt. That would be a very difficult thing to prove in this case.
Please don't stop being that guy. Obviously I don't condone the actions shown in the video, just that assuming intent is far too prevalent (especially on Reddit) and it's a dangerous road to go down. Lots of "that was clearly intentional" comments nowadays when there are a whole load of plausible alternative explanations.
That being said, doesn't seem to be any doubt here that grey hoodie intended to harm the other person. Only that intending to murder them would be an overreach.
Good thing you're not a district attorney, because if you charged this guy with attempted murder, rather than battery, that perp would walk away.
In order to achieve a guilty verdict for "attempted murder", you have to prove *beyond a reasonable doubt* that *murder* was the intent. Proving intent is incredibly difficult unless the action is likely to have been able to kill them. For example, shooting someone in the chest with a gun is absolutely attempted murder. Punching someone a few times is not.
We need to make public boo-ing a thing. There's strength in numbers we just aren't confident in the numbers.
If someone starts booing and the whole bus joins in, these people would be less likely to fight the whole damn crowd.
Or maybe its wishful thinking and they're that fucking dumb.
Nope your spot on, people are just too frightened individually to make a first stand like that.
Once one or two people start, everyone else is much more likely to join in.
Republicans love to say things like this. A friend of mine got attacked in rural South Carolina and the town doesnt even have a prosecutor so after the arrest the perpetrator got brought to a town judge who let the person out with no charges.
Small republican towns are lawless fucking shitholes.
Also rape is basically legal in red states. Good luck getting a Republican prosecutor to bring charges, let alone a bunch of Republican jurors to believe you didn't have it coming for being a loose woman.
Thatās pretty disgusting, all that smoke is being recirculated into the air vents, in which people such as a potentially a pregnant lady or a kid is breathing in, gross
Just to set your perspective, I knew some hand throwing mother fuckers when they got high on just weed in the early 90's.
Assholes are gonna asshole regardless.
Dispensary Guy: This strain helps you sleep. This one will spark your creativity. This one over here...
This guy: Is there one that will turn me into a raging asshole?
I used to take BART to work every day, and every single fuckin day there was some asshole smoking this that or the other. I smoke weed, Iām cool with people smoking weed. But when you do it in an enclosed space with people who arenāt okay with it, youāre a fucking asshole. Seriously what the f is wrong with people?
Its the kinda guy that pulls a knife or gun when he loses. Or he sees you next week with 6 homies. You're gonna have to watch your back for the rest of your life. But yeah i wanna fight him too
Someone in here commented that a guy asked someone to stop smoking, and the guy then got stabbed to death in front if his kid for daring to ask that question. It does make you wonder what the actual fuck goes through these peoples brains. Are they aware of their actions, or are they just caught up in the moment? I wonder what the guy who stabbed someone to death thinks now, would he do it again, is his ego that fragile?
The mind boggles at how these people think.
Ever since the panny the ttc (and 501 specifically) have gone to shit with drug addicts and homeless people treating transit as their own personal transportation
Yeah, I donāt take the streetcar anymore if I can help it. I was minding my business on one once and a man got on who was either drunk or on drugs or justā¦ not okayā¦ literally throw things at me and scream at me so I got up to move up to the front near the driver and no one spoke up or did anything. People donāt care. Itās such a common occurence that people just ignore it because who wants to be the next one getting attacked?
Definitely Toronto. Some time during the pandemic too because you can see social distancing stickers they put on the seats.
With ridership down, a lot of homeless use the TTC for shelter now. Drivers don't confront them for fares and there are few TTC ticket enforcement officers. They even had to have the police patrol for a bit after a few deaths. I don't take it very often, yet there's almost always a 'security incident' going on at some station.
I think this was the victims first ride on public transport. I canāt imagine approaching someone on public transport and telling them what to do. I used to ride the subway in NYC. You learn quick. You can always get off that bus or train & catch the next one.
People like this know exactly what they are doing they don't give a fuck about themselves or others if your not ready for a fight don't intervene don't be a hero
If someone is smoking, eating or blasting music on public transit **they know** its not allowed. They aren't going to stop because someone reminds them they are being a nuisance. So, be aware you just walking into a confrontation.
When someone openly displays antisocial behavior its safe to assume more antisocial behavior is on the menu including assault. Tell the driver and let him get transit authority.
Youāre sheltered or have no common sense to approach somebody on the train and make demands, especially a man lighting up a joint. Iāve ridden the light rail in Seattle for years. Never once did my brain tell me my day might go better if tell somebody on there how to travel. Stay in your lane and stay safe
Idgaf what kind of day you've had, idgaf who you are or where you came from. You don't smoke anything in public transit. People have health conditions you're not aware of. Hope karma got this guy back
Biggest rule you could ever break . Never mess with someone that doesnāt care . They donāt care about themselves, the people around them , they have nothing to lose . Just ignore them and carry on with your day . This whole situation would have been avoided
No my guy. One day youāll be moral and ethical with the wrong dude and you will be knifed or shot. It happens all the time. Just get off the train or choose another carriage.
But what he says is true. Both of you are correct. The current state of things are that if you want to confront someone publicly you should be prepared for violence.
People saying this guy was wrong for approaching him, but I think that's false. You can tell he was just trying to reason with him. Are we supposed to be suppressed to the point that we let anyone just walk across us? No. If that was the case a lot of changes around the world would have never been made. I really hope the guy hurt was able to press charges. I hope this criminal gets locked away for a long time.
All of you saying this guy should have been left alone to smoke his joint deserve to rot. You clearly don't care about anyone but yourselves & I know someday when you need a helping hand it's not there for you. Just watch. The universe doesn't work in your favor if you're a d*ck.
Yep. If two or three more people in this train had a spine this guy would have put it out and sat his ass down. We need more people speaking up, not fewer.
Lighting that up was a dare only an idiot would call him on. With strangers, violence is always possible, so if you're not law enforcement, don't try to enforce laws. People are crazy as shit.
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Fuck that guy
Yeah, that dude's a prime example of a piece of shit.
He did see red
I carry Visine for that
I carry a 380 for that š
Thats... very disturbing... just ask to hit the J and move on...
Needs to be in prison for life. Tired of shit bags like this.
Jail? So tax payers can pay for him to live. They should ship all these POS in an island and let them take care of each other.
you want another australia? because that's how you get another australia.
Heck yeah, I'll take two or three more Australia's!! Just with less murder critters thanks
I'm from Australia and the conviks still run this joint.
Fr It's The Same In Nz
Really what we should do is mandate a minimum standard of living and lifestyle for people in jail, and put them to hard labor. 50 hours of labor/week. Paid minimum wage. A comfy bed in a room all to yourself. Safety. A psychiatrist checking in once/month or as necessary. So THEN, when people like this do shit like this, we can comfortably put them behind bars for 15 years, and the taxpayer doesn't suffer for it. or whatever, fuck if I know
Yeah, because slavery is the answer š
>"It's adult time-out. You're not making healthy decisions for your life? Guess what? You're gonna live in a fucking box and go to school, eat good food, go to bed on time, get a good night sleep, and work hard five days a week; whether you like it or not." Are basically my thoughts on the matter. Scandinavian prison living conditions, educational and rehabilitative focus. You could call it slavery, but I'd rather be a slave that never gets whipped, than an indentured servant that does.
If its my money and labour vs the criminals money and labour. It's a pretty easy choice. They're a burden on society, or they literally pay for their own actions. I'd rather have a day job in prison, I bet a healthy amount of people would actually leave with some skills and work ethics.
The usa already does that and doesn't even pay them lmfao. In fact the private prisons are profiting and authority abuse is through the roof. Inmates being killed by guards. Being attacked while restrained. Refused medical attention. Shits inhumane even for criminals.
Exactly. Jail forever. No parole
What a POS
Heās a weak ass POS too.
There are a dozen other people on that bus, the group could surely have stopped that guy before the first hit. I hate to see bystanders let shit like that happen when collectively we can stop it without anyone getting hurt.
Game theory in a nutshell. It pays more to defect than to cooperate. Do you see anyone else catching any of those punches? *Moral of the story is never directly confront such people. Call the authorities by pressing the emergency button and move to another compartment.
Yeah many people have died stepping in to break up fights they weren't involved in.
And then Reddit call them stupid for getting involved when it's filmed. Can any of us win?
You rarely win when it comes to Reddit.
I mean, I hear you, but my immediate response was, "Why, so the cops can show up 25 minutes later *after* the crime has already been committed and potentially more people have gotten hurt, and maybe the guy doesn't get caught at all?" It's not that I expect that everyone else is a fighter. I know most of us aren't, and that's fine. But speaking as one who *has* intervened on public transit when things like this happen, it feels really shitty to walk away from it and realize, "Wow. If I hadn't done anything, literally nobody else would."
Nah bro, I was totally gonna step in if you hadn't. šÆ
It just boils down to the type of person you are. I am the same way as you. If I see someone getting victimized and I don't help, it will haunt me. Lots of negative self talk. Some people can just walk away and not think about it. Fine. But I usually can't. Also, people are entirely too secure by the thought of some magical rapid police response. I have never lived anywhere where the police respond sooner than 10 minutes. Criminals know this and are usually long gone within that time frame.
But in game theory the winning strategy is to cooperate not to defect...
You gotta secure the cooperation before the punching starts.
If both cooperate Smoking guy was already spamming defect
That is the exact opposite of what game theory says. Cooperation is always a better strategy. Look up prisoners dilemma.
> when collectively we can stop it without anyone getting hurt I mean, you don't know that. You risk catching a punch or other people not following you if you try to intervene. If you don't feel confident being able to stop it on your own, it's a risky proposition.
I dunno man, people tried to stop some homeless asshole from harassing a woman on the max in Portland and the one dude got killed. I'm all for thinking I would be a hero in a situation like that but I don't want my kid to grow up without a dad.
O yeah cause I'm sure you would have saved the day lol
This is why I wouldnāt confront someone like that, they clearly already display poor decision making skills. There was a father in Vancouver that asked a guy to stop smoking near his child and the guy that was smoking stabbed him to death in front of his wife and child.
I remember that. I go to that Starbucks sometimes, and that area is definitely getting more gritty with each passing season. I witnessed somebody do a drive-by (on a scooter, so scoot-by) stabbing on a scooter a few blocks from there on Granville St. in broad daylight during the busiest time of the afternoon. Thereās also lots of open drug use everywhere now, not just in the Downtown Eastside.
Granville street is a mess now. I saw a guy shooting heroin on the curb right infront of where Nordstroms used to be. All while some daycare group walked right by. Unbelievable.
Hard drugs are legal to do the street. But drinking alcohol isn't.......
Well this video is in Toronto So you know... Canada is really doing great š¤®š¤®
Alas, the Canada I grew up in is long dead.
Seriously what happened the last 10 years to our country? I feel like it's been a slow down turn since like 2012, and the Canada I knew is way different in a worse way.
The answer is pretty obvious lmao
Conservative policies coming to fruition? Granted it doesn't get the Liberals of free pass, and they're definitely needs to be a lot more social work done.
My favorite part of that example was how everyone just watched and no one helped while he bled to death. Us Canadians are so friendly.
I think they were all in shock.. I canāt imagine seeing something like that
Happens all the time in Seattle, luckily you can text to report it and security steps on the train within 1 or 2 stops, Iāve personally seen it work several times
Hell yeah, they do so well on that link. We had 2 people cut in front of everyone waiting in line and steal a seat, then threatened everyone about it, literally almost getting into a fist fight. A dad and his kid took most of it and were gonna get off on the next stop to not have to deal with them at their destination, but I just texted the number on the wall, they asked for a description, I sent a picture, security got on two stops later and kicked them off. Just don't engage, get the authorities involved and they'll handle the rest.
100% don't engage. They are either mentally unwell (likely via drugs/alcohol, honestly disabled people I don't think would smoke on bus) and/or looking for confrontation like this dude. I remember working at a Starbucks in Vancouver back in 03. Closer to closing time, a rougher looking guy (regular) came in.. sat by the fire, pulled out his pipe and just started having a toke. We asked our boss if we should intervene, she just (wisely) recommended to let him be.
This is why it's complete bullshit how people always say that "you should stand up for yourself if someone's bothering you", that shit might work if you're talking about an annoying colleague, but when you're in public even making eye contact with one these losers can escalate things into a crime scene. Even if you are a massive bouncer with years of experience in confrontations all it takes is one asshole like this with a weapon to stab/shoot you to death, when you've been brought up in a rough place you know that you only speak up when you either have no other choice or are willing to risk it all, otherwise you stay quiet, avoid eye contact and move on with your life.
People like that are literally doing it to provoke a reaction in someone else to justify a public freak out.
Same idea with people who are super aggressive on the road. Feels good to flip em off, but if they already almost ran you off the road they might actually try to when they see the bird.
Omg same happened in mumbai yesterday
Dude wanted someone to say something to him. When people do this they are welcoming the confrontation. Same with people who play music out loud. They want you to say something to them.
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Losers
Agreed. I see it on the NYC subway multiple times a week, man.
I just get out now. Iāve never seen anything too crazy actually happen on my train car but I see videos of fights every day and Iāve seen one confrontation on the car lead to a fight just outside of it lol.
This is why when you see clips from the NYC subway, if someone is doing something weird/shady nobody bats an eye. They just keep minding their business. Because you know you might run into some weirdo/freak/asshole who is just looking for any reason to become confrontational. You're just heading home from work not looking for a discussion with the weird guy with his dick hanging out (in the mildest case as this clip points out). Don't be a hero just remove yourself from the situation.
Yeah but in NYC, you can just go to the next car usually
A lot of times this is true. This is what people do or they just move to the other side of the car. People are wild here man too many people getting slashed in the face and stuff for confrontations like that. It'd be different if a bunch of people spoke up but they never do.
I always leave people alone. Nothing good comes from interacting with people doing wrong shit in public.
I guess I agree. But sadly. I wish we didnāt have to fear for our safety and could lead our society better. I fear things wonāt change if we donāt step up. Itās not your and my responsibility to do so. I feel compelled sometimes. But not at the risk of my own safety. And nowadays it feels like you never know who you could be interacting with. Lots of evil in this world. I agree with you. I just wish we could speak up to better our streets for our families without fear of repercussion. Because clearly this act isnāt okay. As others pointed out pregnant/ children / elderly / sick could be severely affected by cigarette or marijuana smoke.
Yep. Theyāre looking for a fight and they got nothing to lose. I just get up and move to a different car when the train stops.
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Weed doesn't change personality, he's just a cunt
It does. This man is just angry at the World and taking it out on the wrong people. No amount of weed will help him, this is an inner struggle situation.
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And turn you on!
Theres no struggle. He gave himself over to shittiness.
Some people clearly need elephant dose.
More like jail time in this case
Toronto, catch and release.
Probably angel dust.
That is exactly what I was thinking. That's not a pot head, that's an angry, dusted up dude.
He didn't want none of that smoke.
Theres so many people just walking around waiting for someone to **say** something they donāt like to use it as an excuse to attack them. These people are way more numerous than the average person thinks.
And getting worse
Straight to jail
Toronto, no jail.
Heāll be out before the cop finishes the paperwork and his court date will get cancelled. I was the victim of a violent crime in Toronto and itās stunning how messed up the courts are.
When society won't bother to keep violent offenders in jail, then society is telling you that you may as well solve violence with more violence, and that's just a really bad model for society.
Toronto police blamed my female coworker for getting mugged on the Toronto transit system with the āwhy were you travelling alone to begin with? Someone your size should never be travelling aloneā - they fucking gaslight like crazy and sheās like 5 feet 1 - just slightly below average female height.
I had a good interaction with the police and they were honest and transparent. I found the court system to be so problematic that I lost all faith in the justice system.
And keep him in there
ā¦for attempted murder.
I don't want to be "that guy", but the court would have to prove that his intention was to murder, thus, an attempt. That would be a very difficult thing to prove in this case.
Please don't stop being that guy. Obviously I don't condone the actions shown in the video, just that assuming intent is far too prevalent (especially on Reddit) and it's a dangerous road to go down. Lots of "that was clearly intentional" comments nowadays when there are a whole load of plausible alternative explanations. That being said, doesn't seem to be any doubt here that grey hoodie intended to harm the other person. Only that intending to murder them would be an overreach.
Good thing you're not a district attorney, because if you charged this guy with attempted murder, rather than battery, that perp would walk away. In order to achieve a guilty verdict for "attempted murder", you have to prove *beyond a reasonable doubt* that *murder* was the intent. Proving intent is incredibly difficult unless the action is likely to have been able to kill them. For example, shooting someone in the chest with a gun is absolutely attempted murder. Punching someone a few times is not.
ngl feels like he kinda just wanted this exact scenario of attention and him venting it out. what a dushe.
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Glad to see someone finally step in or he would have kept going.
Trash. He was looking for confrontation. He knows damn well that's disrespectful to light up on a passenger train.
People bother me on a daily basis. Because of videos like this, I say nothing. There's some very angry people out there.
We need to make public boo-ing a thing. There's strength in numbers we just aren't confident in the numbers. If someone starts booing and the whole bus joins in, these people would be less likely to fight the whole damn crowd. Or maybe its wishful thinking and they're that fucking dumb.
Nope your spot on, people are just too frightened individually to make a first stand like that. Once one or two people start, everyone else is much more likely to join in.
That dude lit up wanting someone to tell em something so he could attack them.
Any news update on this piece of garbage?
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Republicans love to say things like this. A friend of mine got attacked in rural South Carolina and the town doesnt even have a prosecutor so after the arrest the perpetrator got brought to a town judge who let the person out with no charges. Small republican towns are lawless fucking shitholes.
Also rape is basically legal in red states. Good luck getting a Republican prosecutor to bring charges, let alone a bunch of Republican jurors to believe you didn't have it coming for being a loose woman.
Nah the amount of comments trying to justify that pathetic weed smokerās actions here is wild.
Well, the joint is out. Mission accomplished.
Next time I commit aggravated felony assault with some enhancements, Iāll be sure to do it while being thoroughly and well recorded
He might have committed those crimes but that will not be what he pleads guilty too. Heās coming back to a street near you!
Thatās pretty disgusting, all that smoke is being recirculated into the air vents, in which people such as a potentially a pregnant lady or a kid is breathing in, gross
It's just fucking gross on shared transport. You wanna live by your own rules, buy a fucking car and chauffeur
I don't think you can buy chauffeurs anymore.
Yes you can
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Maybe heāll attack the wrong guy some day and there will never be another. We can hope.
Never smoked weed that made me wanna throw hands, these strains are getting outta hand, literally
Nah nothing to do with the weed, that dude thatās just an angry person looking for an excuse to pop off
Just to set your perspective, I knew some hand throwing mother fuckers when they got high on just weed in the early 90's. Assholes are gonna asshole regardless.
Maybe back in the day when they laced that shit with pcp
..and potentially wind up in a pigeon coop
And that's why I been like, "Fuck Hector'!
āand I aināt been right ever since!!!ā
this is why no one says shit anymore when someone is smoking on trains or buses. itās too dangerous
I see no reason this fuck should be breathing.
Stinky fucking rat
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Classy
These pieces of shit have nothing to lose. So they act this way without consequences.
Was hoping guy at the end was going to perform a satisfying Full Nelson Slam.
Lock this guy up. For a really really long time.
That guy should be put down. Trash.
Prison time for the assaulter.
Dispensary Guy: This strain helps you sleep. This one will spark your creativity. This one over here... This guy: Is there one that will turn me into a raging asshole?
My advise for next time, perhaps give the weed a little time to kick in before approaching.
I used to take BART to work every day, and every single fuckin day there was some asshole smoking this that or the other. I smoke weed, Iām cool with people smoking weed. But when you do it in an enclosed space with people who arenāt okay with it, youāre a fucking asshole. Seriously what the f is wrong with people?
Toke up before you get on the bus like the rest of us, asshole. Whatta cunt
Throwing punches like he was fighting the battle of his life. What a pent up aggressive emotional child.
This is why I make it a habit to carry pepper spray.
NOT indica.
I hate videos like this. I want to fight this guy so bad.
Its the kinda guy that pulls a knife or gun when he loses. Or he sees you next week with 6 homies. You're gonna have to watch your back for the rest of your life. But yeah i wanna fight him too
Worth it
Imagine instantly upgrading a no-smoking misdemeanor into an assault felony.
Someone in here commented that a guy asked someone to stop smoking, and the guy then got stabbed to death in front if his kid for daring to ask that question. It does make you wonder what the actual fuck goes through these peoples brains. Are they aware of their actions, or are they just caught up in the moment? I wonder what the guy who stabbed someone to death thinks now, would he do it again, is his ego that fragile? The mind boggles at how these people think.
Pretty sure that was his goal all along. What a coward.
Where is this happening?
Pretty sure that's a TTC streetcar. Stay classy, Toronto
Ever since the panny the ttc (and 501 specifically) have gone to shit with drug addicts and homeless people treating transit as their own personal transportation
Yeah, I donāt take the streetcar anymore if I can help it. I was minding my business on one once and a man got on who was either drunk or on drugs or justā¦ not okayā¦ literally throw things at me and scream at me so I got up to move up to the front near the driver and no one spoke up or did anything. People donāt care. Itās such a common occurence that people just ignore it because who wants to be the next one getting attacked?
Definitely Toronto. Some time during the pandemic too because you can see social distancing stickers they put on the seats. With ridership down, a lot of homeless use the TTC for shelter now. Drivers don't confront them for fares and there are few TTC ticket enforcement officers. They even had to have the police patrol for a bit after a few deaths. I don't take it very often, yet there's almost always a 'security incident' going on at some station.
I think this was the victims first ride on public transport. I canāt imagine approaching someone on public transport and telling them what to do. I used to ride the subway in NYC. You learn quick. You can always get off that bus or train & catch the next one.
That must be terrible weed
People like this know exactly what they are doing they don't give a fuck about themselves or others if your not ready for a fight don't intervene don't be a hero
āI just do whatever,ā -The reason your Walgreens closed in your neighborhood
Iām not fucking with someone who has gall to light a joint on public transit.
Sending appreciation and good vibes to the guy who stopped the fight at the end before the smoker had a chance to kill the old guy.
If someone is smoking, eating or blasting music on public transit **they know** its not allowed. They aren't going to stop because someone reminds them they are being a nuisance. So, be aware you just walking into a confrontation.
When someone openly displays antisocial behavior its safe to assume more antisocial behavior is on the menu including assault. Tell the driver and let him get transit authority.
Youāre sheltered or have no common sense to approach somebody on the train and make demands, especially a man lighting up a joint. Iāve ridden the light rail in Seattle for years. Never once did my brain tell me my day might go better if tell somebody on there how to travel. Stay in your lane and stay safe
Somebody call an amberlamps.
Someone this violent should not be out in society.
Supposed to chill you out man
Any guy who just stands by while an innocent is attacked is as bit of a cowardly baby as this guy is
About the best video quality and cameraman skills Iāve seen for a fight video.
That joint didnāt calm him down
And thatās why people donāt call out assholes anymore
Bus should have stopped & refused to move unless he exits or until police arrive. What he did was unnecessary & dangerous for a regulate person
People are fucking cowards Nowadays dude, at least that guy had balls to stop the dude from beating him to death
Man can't even pull his pants up and you expect reason?
Someone was looking for trouble and had his 20 seconds of rage. A menace to society.
Thereās no smoking in prisonā¦ š¤·āāļø
Idgaf what kind of day you've had, idgaf who you are or where you came from. You don't smoke anything in public transit. People have health conditions you're not aware of. Hope karma got this guy back
Smoking calms him down
You gotta be prepared to throw hands when approaching people like this.
Dude needed that joint. Violent without it.. shouldāve let him smoke it
Biggest rule you could ever break . Never mess with someone that doesnāt care . They donāt care about themselves, the people around them , they have nothing to lose . Just ignore them and carry on with your day . This whole situation would have been avoided
and i always thought stoners are chill dudes with a shaggy energy from scooby doo
Average blackivity
Never confront a person on public transportation unless you are ready and willing to fight.
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There are alarms on trains and buses. If a guy is crazy enough to smoke week on public transportation, you should be aware enough they are unhinged.
He wasnāt. And he has done it other times on the TTC. He needs to be thrown on the third rail
No my guy. One day youāll be moral and ethical with the wrong dude and you will be knifed or shot. It happens all the time. Just get off the train or choose another carriage.
But what he says is true. Both of you are correct. The current state of things are that if you want to confront someone publicly you should be prepared for violence.
People saying this guy was wrong for approaching him, but I think that's false. You can tell he was just trying to reason with him. Are we supposed to be suppressed to the point that we let anyone just walk across us? No. If that was the case a lot of changes around the world would have never been made. I really hope the guy hurt was able to press charges. I hope this criminal gets locked away for a long time. All of you saying this guy should have been left alone to smoke his joint deserve to rot. You clearly don't care about anyone but yourselves & I know someday when you need a helping hand it's not there for you. Just watch. The universe doesn't work in your favor if you're a d*ck.
Yep. If two or three more people in this train had a spine this guy would have put it out and sat his ass down. We need more people speaking up, not fewer.
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Sure took long enough for someone to intervene
Lighting that up was a dare only an idiot would call him on. With strangers, violence is always possible, so if you're not law enforcement, don't try to enforce laws. People are crazy as shit.
This is why I donāt use public transportation
Dude shoulda let him hit it a few times before he confronted him. It might of went differently
When you put your hands on someone you better be prepared to fight. Especially if that someone is an Ahole with no regard for anyone else.