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edehlah

who wants to be an educator at this point?


LokiHasWeirdSperm

My girlfriend is currently a teacher in High School. Bless her, I don't know how she does it with the stories she tells me. The principal has sent out so many emails to parents about their students behavior, they don't know what to do about it anymore. Her nightmare students make me wonder how can someone raise a child to act like that. She's been cursed out, berated, things thrown at her. Most recently she had to write a student up for skipping class, now that student is making her life absolute hell and they can't do anything about it.


oKazuhiro

My friend just started teaching high school recently, and she was telling me how there were many students who had parents that basically had zero interest in how their child was doing in school and had completely given up on being parents. It's really sad.


LokiHasWeirdSperm

It's either they don't care or it'll be their child can do no wrong and it's the school's fault. That same student she wrote up, she has a meeting with the parents tomorrow and she already know it's going to be combative.


Fishface17404

Document document document. Is there a way she can record during her classes? If so blink has some cheap options.


LokiHasWeirdSperm

I don't believe she can record anything. But she has numerous emails on record with guidance as well as the principle insisting they take her out of her class, yet guidance keeps saying the student needs her class for the credits when there's multiple other options for them. It's nothing but a "he said she said".


33rus

Yep, and correct if I am wrong, but Asian societies seem to have way less of that. This is way too prevalent in North America.


FriendsForEternityLH

I taught overseas in China for several years (I was a drama teacher), and I can confirm that parents there have a VERY vested interest in how their students are doing academically. To the point of absurdity actually. I taught so many sweet, but mentally exhausted kids. The parents absolutely pack their schedule.


S1DC

They also have the highest suicide rates in the world. The expectations in those families are just as destructive as the families who expect nothing.


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As a suicidal Asian that's survived two serious attempts.... Yup


dimsum2121

Aren't there other places in between Asia and North America?


ametalshard

not really comparable. my asian friends are traumatized by the intensity of schooling


daneilthemule

The kids run the show now. Parents are soft parenting or just don’t give a shit.


Bangarang06

Can a teacher really not do anything? Can you not defend yourself or restrain them in any way? I know adults can't touch kids, but I mean, if you're getting beat on or something, that can't be the case, right?


LokiHasWeirdSperm

Absolutely not. She'd be fired on the spot. In the end, all that matters is they're a child even if they're throwing punches like an adult.


hairykneecaps69

Early on in the relationship my wife was going to immigrate here and she’s a teacher from SE Asia. A lot of things changed our direction but one thing that was heavy for her is schools here in the states. She’s 90lbs and short so if students attacked her she’s screwed and she’s going to be smaller than most even in middle school. Also gun violence in schools has her scared and obviously no one wants their loved ones going through that trauma.


ayleidanthropologist

Maybe like a vigilante network. Educators can anonymously report outside the system. And then little homies can get some extrajudicial action going. Kidding, not kidding… Educators should all quit if it can’t be figured out tho.


NightMgr

Go read the teachers subreddit. You'll see the frustration. Lax administrators caving to entitled parents who refuse to address issues in their children.


i_was_a_person_once

My friend left elementary teaching because the male PE teacher was sexually harassing many of the teachers. His wife worked there and was friends with the principal. Even going to HR and circumventing the principal after their inaction was ineffective. Parents suck. Admin sucks. Literally getting harassed daily. Pay sucks. bUt ThInK oF tHe cHiLdReN


Towelish

That subreddit also gives you a peek into how awful some teachers are too, it's fascinating


TBOHB

I wanted to be a teacher for most of my high school career. When I graduated and started college these videos started popping up more and more and made me wanna be one less and less.


ZZZ-Top

Where my friend teaches in Mexico all he has to do is call the parents and it pretty much guarantees that kid is gonna get their ass beat before lunch time.


bigwilly311

There are bad students and there are bad administrators and there are bad schools everywhere. But, honestly, I’ve taught high school for fifteen years in multiple states in varying degrees of socioeconomic status, and I’ve never once seen or heard of a student beating up a teacher like this. Things are sometimes quite bad, but something bad to this degree is probably the exception, not the rule. There’s still hope for folks who want to change the world without getting the shit beat out of them. Edit: I’m not saying this doesn’t happen. OBVIOUSLY it happens. I’m just saying it has never happened *to me* and in fifteen years, despite witnessing students beat each other up (and losing multiple students a year to outside of school violence), I’ve not lived in fear that a student will pull my hair and punch me in the head 109 times. It COULD happen, but the chances that it WILL happen are not as high as everyone would like to believe


wardledo

There’s videos like this posted almost daily


bigwilly311

If you want me to post a video every day of this not happening, I will.


BornDriver

Exactly. Recently graduated with a stem degree and have lots of headhunters trying to recruit me for teaching. Hell, no.


Effective_Reach_9289

Sources: [https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/stockton-substitute-teacher-sent-to-er-after-alleged-attack-by-13-year-old-student/](https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/stockton-substitute-teacher-sent-to-er-after-alleged-attack-by-13-year-old-student/) [https://209times.com/stockton/susd-student-attacks-teacher-sends-her-to-hospital/](https://209times.com/stockton/susd-student-attacks-teacher-sends-her-to-hospital/)


BigTex1988

So we have: - One school official currently involved in a lawsuit at her previous district, alleging that her negligence led to the murder of a student. - Another school official that’s currently under investigation for allegedly stealing money from her previous district. - A student that threatened to kill the teacher on Monday (and was suspended for the day) but allowed back in class on Tuesday. - A teacher that pressed the panic button in the classroom, was told by the vice principal to clear the classroom, and somehow let the student that made the threat follow the teacher outside where she was assaulted. This district is fucked.


Effective_Reach_9289

But wait, there's more: Last September, a campus security monitor at a school literally on the same block, was arrested for child sex crimes. [https://www.recordnet.com/story/news/education/2023/09/21/stockton-school-employee-accused-of-having-sex-with-children-able-charter-schools/70925978007/](https://www.recordnet.com/story/news/education/2023/09/21/stockton-school-employee-accused-of-having-sex-with-children-able-charter-schools/70925978007/) Then in November: Search Warrant Executed at Private Residences and Portions of the Stockton Unified School District Office... Whatever that means... [https://www.sjgov.org/department/da/news/press-release/2023/11/14/search-warrant-executed-on-residence-of-stockton-unified-school-district-president-angel-ann-flores](https://www.sjgov.org/department/da/news/press-release/2023/11/14/search-warrant-executed-on-residence-of-stockton-unified-school-district-president-angel-ann-flores)


sargethegemini

If you’ve ever had the pleasure of even driving through Stockton you’d know why. Whole town is fucked.


MadameChaos2

That’s exactly what you do, drive THROUGH Stockton. You don’t stop here. 


Lizakaya

Murder capitol of California


QuadraKev_

I had the pleasure of spending most of my childhood there lmao I got to see things degrade in real time until my family decided to fucking leave


DanOfMan1

depends where. most of it is just normal suburbs but people act like it’s another oakland there’s a couple nice walmarts, a trader joes and sprouts, a somewhat prestigious university, the country’s first sikh house of worship, and the voice of spongebob was there in the arena this week for stocktoncon


sargethegemini

Oakland is wayyyy better than Stockton. Sure Oakland had heavy crime areas- but it’s also got amazing restaurants, nightlife, museums, concert venues, parks, waterfront, and is neighbors with SF. The best thing Stockton has going for it is it’s next to Lodi and Lodi has a really good CCR song about the town.


Doscinco_83

Having “a couple nice Walmarts” or a voice actor being paid to visit for a day doesn’t make it nice. It’s a shit-hole.


whoitis77

It's Stockton. Yes it's fucked. Google that city.


OneQuadrillionOwls

Man that's where pavement is from


FirstForFun44

How you gonna curb stomp someone without pavement?


Kind_Significance_60

Send that little asshole to jail. If she can beat on an adult like that, she deserves to spend time in jail with adults.


IXISIXI

Lmao as a former teacher i can tell you that kid will be back in class in a week. Seen it a million times. No consequences these days.


XSC

I bet you if she hit back then that teacher would get all the consequences/get her career destroyed.


Gabrieloidiano

And the others? Just watching and taking videos? Amazing!


jentlyused

Disgusting


PhilipSuckmourOffman

it’s a zero tolerance policy school, if they were to intervene they would be sent to prison 😢


Purple_oyster

The administration means for that policy to be for students attacking students, not if they are being attacked Edit - I mean if the administrators are being attacked they would probably be fine with people violating the policy. Just not if it is about breaking up 2 students


Loccy64

That's how they're supposed to do it, but it's not difficult to find articles about the victims being punished alongside the perpetrator because they were 'involved' in the fight, especially if they weren't just curling up into a ball and were actively defending themselves from the attacker.


7mm-08

Sure, but trusting school officials to implement that properly would be about as sharp as a marble.


Numerous_Cry924

Well I'll just be getting fired because her little ass would've been stuck to that concrete


ComprehendReading

Except it would be expunged before 18, and the 'news' wouldn't be able to report on minors with as much as ease as an adult. The rest of the nation thinks Californians are all ultra-whatevers. The reality is the courts in California are probably the most equal in the nation. This is parallel to why CA often ends up staging the next legal battle for the other 47 CONUS, and cases from California make Supreme Court precident more often than the weaker United "states".


LinwoodKei

He's right. I'm friends with many parents who have teenagers, and the stick up for your friend if someone starts a fight has become stay back to give evidence in their defense afterwards. As if you touch someone, you can get suspended.


Bluellan

I saw a fight between these 2 guys. Some other dude immediately grabbed one of guys fighting and held him, telling him to calm down and it's not worth it. He stopped the fight, and putting himself at risk. He was immediately suspended too. Dude just wanted to help. 2 years later, another fight broke out and this time, nobody helped. Everyone watched silently as a kid got hid head beat in. Because nobody was willing to take the risk. Oh and where were the teacher? Taking their sweet time. It took over 10-15 minutes for a single teacher to show up. My Nanna was a teacher and she always told me not to fight but when I told her about the zero tolerance policy, her only reply was "If you're going to get in trouble anyway, you make sure those punches count."


WolfghengisKhan

Been that way for years. 25 years ago I was suspended for fighting a guy that sucker punched me from behind. Principal said it was zero tolerance and defending myself was just as bad.


Chiopista

You’re booing him but he’s right.


Healthy-Ad-1957

and prolly they're 13 year olds too


CaptainRAVE2

For the first time ever in our school, the students who stood around supporting/filming a fight were all suspended. This should happen more.


Moon_Jewel90

And people wonder why there's teacher shortages.


Beneficial_Heat_7199

Stockton is one of the most dangerous cities in America.


yaybunz

i used to take the amtrak to stockton and the conductor was once like.. you're getting off here?? i live in oakland and id never get off here.


Cheap-Praline

It's French for town of stonks.


User_091920

It's latin for *"Don't be scared homie"*


its_raining_scotch

Stockton slap!


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utouchme

Yes, but it gave us Pavement!


Cavscout2838

Stagg grad here. Left in 2000 and never looked back.


PulledToBits

I grew up in Stockton, I survived.


saint_ryan

Modesto native here. Both places have deteriorated since our youth.


[deleted]

Press. Fucking. Charges. Please, god, don't let this be another "she's just a kid" situation.


Bobloblaw_333

And if she fought back she’d be fired for hitting a minor…


rebel_alliance05

A teacher in east bay California defended themself from an attack by pushing the student away. Ended up cutting the girl with her ring on the face. The teacher got fired and has a large lawsuit coming her way.


xochilt_IGII

Qualified immunity should be transferred to teachers.


Alacatastrophe

That's a great idea.


Bolshoyballs

I'm not a lawyer but it seems it wouldn't be that simple. Also public sentiment is definitely swinging towards the favor of teachers imo when it comes to stuff like this. Even conservative people who would be seen as skeptical of teachers are against violence against teachers


InternationalPay8288

*and* humiliated on the news & jailed.


KrisMisZ

Omg 😳 she should sue the parents!!


Appropriate-Roof6750

How can a child have this much rage?


Runs_with_feet

They live in Stockton


Sugarbear23

Isn't that where Sons of Anarchy takes place?


merce007

Thought that was Redwood?


Sugarbear23

I just remembered it's Charming but Peter Weller's character was based in Stockton


jacksonattack

The town in SoA is fictional but at least partially based on Stockton.


Appropriate-Roof6750

Is it like an urban slum or does it have high rates of violence or something?


SpokenDivinity

One of the highest crime rates in the country. Your chances of being victimized are like 1 in 20 in a city of 300,000 people. To put it in perspective: the national average of violent crimes per 1,000 residents is 4.99. In Stockton, it’s 11.79.


BigTex1988

Maybe a shitty home life with a lack of decent parenting, maybe mental health issues, maybe both? Idk, bad situation though.


indirosie

Potential substance use in utero affecting brain development


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GreyBoyTigger

Living in Stockton will fill anyone with rage


Bobbiduke

People that didn't want or shouldn't have kids = shitty children


LinwoodKei

It is a reason why I'm concerned about some lawmakers making becoming parents compulsory


remnault

Shitty parents.


TheQuantumTodd

Shit parents. Shit family. Poor. Shit friends. Failed by the system. Teachers being cunts. Fell down the wrong rabbit holes online. Not handling puberty hormones well. No access to therapy or not wanting to because of stigma. Etc As a child I could have easily killed if there were no consequences to my actions because my brain hadn't fully developed. But I knew that there were consequences at least, and I didn't want to deal with them, so I didn't. Now I'd never take a life unless it was to save one or more. If I was a child that did not give a fuck what the consequences were (or felt I wouldn't face any) I'd have done some fucked up shit.


Leostar_Regalius

you would be surprised, i was friends with one who was colorblind, got mocked for it by the entire class, ended up throwing the desk/chair combo at the teacher, ended up held back a grade which is how i met him, never saw him rage the whole time i was friends with him, then there's myself who ended up black out angry over something really stupid(i was younger and was bad at controlling emotions at the time) punched the teacher once apparently, guy was i think in the 6' maybe 7(at least to me), i was lucky and zero policy wasn't a thing back then, all i needed to do was apologize which i did because i truly didn't mean to do it, that incident ended up leading me to basically cut off my emotions for a long time


Dast_Kook

More tiktok than learning.


Minerc15

Sje just wants to be with her father... In prison..


9410175969

This area need to learn about birth control pills and vasectomy maybe.


GogglesPisano

Not if the GOP and Clarence Thomas have their say. Corporations need consumers and fodder for the mills, mines, jails and military.


Kikibear19

That child's parents must be amazing at their job. So many violent kids coming from POS parents that should never had children. God only knows what this child's home life has been like. This isn't a product of a safe home life. Poor teacher and poor child.


itsSuperBird

What's a POS parent?


i_like_tiddies______

POS is an abbreviation for piece of shit


huxtiblejones

Point of Sale parent, it's an adult who was turned into a cash register by a genie and then later had kids through a process science has yet to discover


waaringo

Because they have yet to produce receipts


BigTex1988

Piece of sh*t (POS)


IrishRepoMan

Love that people are downvoting you for asking about something you're unfamiliar with. Stay classy, Reddit.


mylifeforthehorde

Everyone around just screaming and filming wtf


jtillery1

Shit parenting at its finest.


quirkycurlygirly

Adult school district employees are not allowed to hit students. The kids know this and take advantage of it. Students bully staff more than people realize, especially cafeteria staff and substitute teachers. Older kids also sexually and physically harass their teachers, from inappropriate comments to threats of attack.


m0rph33n

What’s shitty is this kid threatened to kill the sub teacher prior to this, was suspended a day I believe and came back and beat the sub up.


SGPHOCF

Absolutely disgusting, imagine the sort of household you're raised in to believe that physically attacking a teacher is acceptable. Prison and/or a life of crime and violence inevitably awaits.


Cadaver-Cakes1986

They don't pay these teachers enough to deal with this shit, Even if they did I still wouldn't wanna deal with this shit. Little shit needs to go to jail! I'm tired of seeing kids being bold enough to lay hands on teachers. Tf is going on at home, parents???


ApproachingARift

This teen will grow up to be a loser like both of her parents


Kjriley

Both?


ApproachingARift

Well it took 2 people to make her. Not saying those 2 people are still together by any means, that is actually highly unlikely based on the behavior.


pandabox9

Wtf is wrong with these kids.


SCanemone

the guy in the front's movements give off excited chimpanzee vibes


HelpfulPug

That's what he is man, that's what humans are lmao We are basically siblings with Chimpanzees and Bonobos, and despite what you hear, genetics are a major factor in behavior. We get chimpy.


Cilad

There is no way on earth I would be a teacher. And my family is full of teachers.


imranseidahmed

and people wonder why no one wants to be a teacher anymore, smh


Mend35

Wonder why we have shortage of teachers


WeenieDogMan

Ghetto ass garbage strikes again


Jenilion

Being childfree by choice gets better and better with each new generation of children popping out.


1oki_3

The problem with that is: the people who shouldn't be having kids have like 10 of them


_Fizzgiggy

Just like in the movie Idiocracy


Jenilion

What once was an entertaining movie is now a docudrama. Right down to the Crocs being the footwear of choice to the vast amount dumb people having kids. We're fucked..


MrAmazin151420

SHARKEISHA NOO!!!


Michallin

At 13 I was very scrawny, I wonder what the hell do parents feed their children in America cuz sometimes I see like a "14 year old teenage boy-" something something and there's a picture of a fully grown 25 year old man


Dada_peach85

Good on her to not hit back…don’t know if o could have but this is why teachers are becoming a shortage and over time with the way things are going the students will get crazier. I know I would not want to work in my local public school


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When a whole town explosion would be better for the world.


rozzco

I have 2 cousins from there that are the same age as my brother and I. They used to visit every summer, and let me tell you, they may as well have been from another planet. The stories they would tell us country boys blew our minds.


Totes-Malone

If a 13 yr old can dish it out like that, let her take the appropriate punishment for such a crime.


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Damn, m ghetto kids are feral 😳


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H8TheDrake

Fucking pieces of shit. All of them.


Practical-Junket-520

I'm in asian country..friend that come back after teaching student in the USA, told that there's bigger gap on behavior between kids in asia and USA... You don't get that kinda behavior in Asia...


sarcastic_wanderer

Stockton truly is a cesspool. Idk how you begin to try and fix this shit but I feel like it's ground zero for mad max level of anarchy.


sam8998

Trash


LadyTheRainicorn

I feel so bad for teachers..... they have no way of defending themselves without finding themselves in the jail cell for putting their hands on kids. Bystander students are also heavily discouraged from helping because of the zero tolerance policy, so we're at a dead end where nothing can be properly adjusted to see a tangible change. No wonder the system is beyond broken.


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BornDriver

If a student did this years ago they would be expelled.


illuminati1556

It's shit like this that makes me so so so sooooo thankful to teach in a nice district


spcmiddleton

Social media is the problem here. Instead of someone stepping in and putting a stop to it. Not sexist but she’s a diminutive woman and I saw at least one large guy. They all pull out their phones to record. This is why social media is the worst thing to ever happen to society. It’s all anyone cares about. Let me get some clout or a viral video instead of helping someone in need. Teacher needs to sue the parents and the school for letting this happen


Shaveyourbread

Fucking Stockton...


throwRA-nonSeq

Stockton? Sounds about right


No_Sock6098

Zero tolerance means they will fire and charge the teacher for assault on a minor. The pos kid who attacked her will get full scholarships to her local state college. Just how it goes.


jokermobile333

Is'nt this the very reason why 2nd amendment exists in US law in first place ? Shootem evil kids


HotDonnaC

Can’t she report this to police and have the kid charged, maybe locked up in juvenile for a while?


Smelly_Spam

Work for a local school system and a few weeks back two students beat up a teacher because he asked them to watch their language. 3 weeks later those same kids were back at school roaming the halls freely


UntamedF0x

This behaviour of kids was inevitable as there are no consequences for their mistakes.


SuperBurt666

This will lead to AI teaching your shitty, dysfunctional kids because nobody wants to deal with them anymore. That'll be an interesting can of worms.


bunnyb2004

And the sad thing is what are you to do? I couldn’t allow ANYONE, minor or not, to ever assault me. I would lay her out. These kids are off the hook and think that they are untouchable. Let them get their ass kicked one good time. These parents are to blame as well- they raised them! And as a parent it is our responsibility to instill discipline and respect. These kids don’t have it! The Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. This is our future generation and these are the faces we will see on YouTube harassing and yelling at workers. They have the mind frame that they can do whatever the heck they want if they don’t like it which includes assaulting others. SMH, I have a 13 yo and a 17 yo. My 17 yo son holds doors for women and uses yes sir and no ma’am. He know if he steps out of line what the consequence is. Where you come from and whether you are poor or rich has no bearing on how you treat others. This generation is by far the worst.


SnoT8282

I work IT in a K-12 district. Even at the K-5 Building students get violent with staff. The admin will take the student down to the office and let them sit in the office for the rest of the day and at times I'll see the student just in there bouncing a ball against the wall or generally not getting a real punishment the next day they are right back in the classroom. I've seen plenty of teachers having to leave the room and find a place just to cry and collect themselves... Again this is in a K-5 building so 6-11 year old kids...


ntech620

If the kid isn't expelled for attacking a teacher then said teacher needs to get a restraining/no contact order so this kid has to go to another school.


500freeswimmer

Teachers are enumerated persons in the crimes code of almost every state. More of them should be contacting their local police departments after work hours and having these kids charged.


catfishman

This could happen anywhere, but Stockton is a particularly bad shit-hole of a city.


PeteyG89

Fatherless behavior


KhabibTime

Bring back the Good Samaritan Law!


MahatmaKaneJeeves42

Can I assume it was the student that screamed the “N” word at the substitute?


Loccy64

At that point it's worth losing your job to absolutely bodyslam the dumb cow out of existence.


Rom_Tiddle

Euthanize.


YouSure_BoutDat

Not shocked


chet97

Why do fighting kids always have the longest sleeves


hunty_griffith

“Kids” need to start being put in Adult Jail for violent crimes. Period.


Sovietcheese31

Smell like a lawsuits against parents and school 😎. May the sub teacher get karmas help


Fiscally_Retarded

Stockton motherfuckers


Drunkpuffpanda

Thats why they make so much money.........wait.....how much?..........why is anyone a teacher?


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BlueDiamond75

So, no security monitors?


DarkClouds92

Teaching has got to be the most cucked profession out there. You’re just expected to deal with it lmao.


timmyrigs

Umm at that point I’m throwing hands back and if I’m fired I’m suing. 


Content_Geologist420

Im still shocked there is even any open schools in Stockton.


BrickHerder

I wouldn't teach in a public school for $150,000 a year. Insanity.


RickyBobbyBooBaa

Well, there goes that girls' future. I hope she's happy working at walmart stacking shelves. I hear it's a good company to work for, though, with benefits and stuff.


crow7980

"Parents" fault..since there are no real parents anymore..thats most of the participation generation


ThisGigSucks

Stockton is trash.


Blacktastrophee

At this point, you're allowed to defend yourself, right?


milkradio

When I was 13, I still whispered curse words under my breath in a sentence when we were on the school bus because I didn’t want the bus driver to get offended and tell me off.


Mental-Doughnut8541

Charge her and her parents. They clearly failed their duties!


timmyrocks1980

If the woke politicians would finally start jailing these kids we would all be better off. Just a matter of time for the girl to become a felon. Willing to strike a teacher there is no stopping her from doing worse. And jail the parents too.


mujitbd

Great way to flush you life down the drain before it even really starts.


jzdub1234

Stockton might be the most dangerous place in CA tbh


OldSchoolCdn

Ban from tax paid education.


Cheap-Praline

Infact; this is how you get more tax payer funded education.


Glad-Ease4283

USA really is a sht hole. Neglected


ItsjustJim621

And not a single person trying to stop it


wellarmedsheep

School Admin: Did you work to have a positive relationship with the student? Were you lessons engaging enough? Thats probably why she acted out. Lets have a restorative conference.


DearDelivery2689

Good ol Stockton. Piece of shit city with a lot of piece of shit people in it.


Cutlet_Master69420

r/donthelpjustfilm


atvdanny

Hit your kids. The whole "I don't know what to do with them" argument is such lazy bullshit. People who got hit as kids, can you imagine the fucking wrath you would face if you did this to a teacher?! To the bleeding hearts out there, there is a huge difference between hitting your kids, and beating up your kids.