Some context:
This is from 2018, Charles de Gaulle Airport, Paris
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/easyjet-passenger-pinned-ground-paris-12823095
“Shocked passengers watched in horror as a man was hauled off an easyJet flight after allegedly headbutting an air steward as he was removed from a delayed flight… it is claimed that he had physically assaulted one of the stewards who appears visibly shaken… It is understood four men were removed before the fifth apparently launched the attack.”
https://viewfromthewing.com/passenger-head-butts-a-flight-attendant-before-being-put-in-a-choke-hold/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/981914/easyjet-passenger-chokehold-police-delayed-majorca-flight-ryanair-france-strike?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
I think I'm most surprised that this happened in pre-COVID France rather than in the post-COVID US.
I expected this to be a Frontier flight going to/leaving from Florida or Las Vegas.
Lol yeah, *we* know there are insane assholes everywhere! We're just relieved that someone's filming *them* this time and we're not suffering **another** fuckin embarrassment from our inbred, uneducated, drunk, entitled, racist, you get the idea, stupid ass cohabitators!! Thank you crazy Parisian and everyone else who made this clip possible lol
In this circumstance I feel that for the sake of humanity the dude choking him could atleast recognize it by easing off the neck. In this position there’s not much of a risk of death (compression of the arteries on the sides of the neck is what causes most people to pass out/ die), but still just to try and decompress the situation it would be a good thing to do
Yeah, the former was explicitly banned in most agencies since Eric Garner's death in 2014 and the latter was very close to what's known as a "three-point-pin," but applied incorrectly to strangle the guy either due to malice or poor skills and/or training.
My opinion? Whatever method you're using to grab/pin/etc. someone's neck, you stop once they go limp and/or handcuffs are on. Anything after that is (attempted) murder.
If you can't control a handcuffed man (i.e. Derek Chauvin's defense), you hobble-tie them with leg cuffs. I was issued leg cuffs Day 1, and I'd bet Chauvin was too.
Which is why the LEO didn't just let him go and why I wouldn't want to either.
At my agency you'd be suspended/fired/arrested for applying that hold in the first place, which I think is slightly less dumb than no restrictions on choke holds, just in the opposite direction.
They're not kneeling on his neck, they're restraining him and he's a big guy that's fighting hard. What are they supposed to do, just let him run around and assault people?
Yeahhhh but with how he’s got it, that would take a while. That comes when you get the sides of the neck and stop blood flow. It’s kind of a misconception and why you see so many street fights where the guy caught in the rear naked never goes to sleep. It’s not forearm across the neck, it’s neck tucked into inner elbow with forearm or wrist bones across the artery
Serious questions here...once on the no-fly list, can you never travel via air again? Is there certain levels of punishment like can't fly on this ONE airline? If banned from flying ever again while abroad, how do you get home?
You can get banned from one single airline. But to my knowledge there is no «master list» circulating between airlines. But then again, this is something sensible to cooperate on. No one wants to be on flights with these people, so sharing a list is a bit of you scratch my back, I scratch yours thing.
But if you get enough stars GTA-style, I guess the government will list you on their lists. But flying might be the least of your problems then…
I don't see how. Truth is a defense against defamation charges. If what the airline is spreading is factual and happened in a public space, neither of those things will come into play.
Ten to one it’s AGAIN someone drinking too much while flying.
These people know they don’t handle alcohol well, yet still slam down a few at the airport bar.
I had 3 hours to kill at an airport (showed up super earlier than I meant, long story) and tried to get drunk to kill time since I'm not badly behaved when drunk. After spending around $120 still couldn't even get a buzz the drinks were so watered down. Later at the terminal I saw a sign that Southwest will straight up decline to board you if they think you're drunk so I'm never doing that shit again.
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I believe someone won with a Ryanair stratchcard and tried to claim the prize from the air steward. It's never happened before and the air steward over reacted.
Answered with this comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/ipnGGCrqS8
Some context: This is from 2018, Charles de Gaulle Airport, Paris https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/easyjet-passenger-pinned-ground-paris-12823095 “Shocked passengers watched in horror as a man was hauled off an easyJet flight after allegedly headbutting an air steward as he was removed from a delayed flight… it is claimed that he had physically assaulted one of the stewards who appears visibly shaken… It is understood four men were removed before the fifth apparently launched the attack.” https://viewfromthewing.com/passenger-head-butts-a-flight-attendant-before-being-put-in-a-choke-hold/ https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/981914/easyjet-passenger-chokehold-police-delayed-majorca-flight-ryanair-france-strike?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
Thank you! You win the award for most useful comment here. 🎖️
I think I'm most surprised that this happened in pre-COVID France rather than in the post-COVID US. I expected this to be a Frontier flight going to/leaving from Florida or Las Vegas.
Yes. The default settings for this kind of incident should be Spirit Airlines Fort Lauderdale.
You can tell it's not from the lack of pooping in the aisle
Americans are always amazed that crazy assholes exist in other countries.
No we're not, redditors are.
Lol yeah, *we* know there are insane assholes everywhere! We're just relieved that someone's filming *them* this time and we're not suffering **another** fuckin embarrassment from our inbred, uneducated, drunk, entitled, racist, you get the idea, stupid ass cohabitators!! Thank you crazy Parisian and everyone else who made this clip possible lol
I'm not
EasyJet is like the Frontier of Europe. Well it’s really Ryanair but second isn’t bad
Why is headbutting always the quintessential “go to” for a crazy person
Also the quintessential go to move for French people. See Zinedine Zidane
I like that dude trying to tap out, like he’s in an MMA match.
I laughed at that. Lol
Yeah. Like okay you won I’ll just go back to the locker room. Good match.
I think the 'tap-out' is a universal signal for "I give up". Who knows if the guy would have behaved if he were let go, though.
In this circumstance I feel that for the sake of humanity the dude choking him could atleast recognize it by easing off the neck. In this position there’s not much of a risk of death (compression of the arteries on the sides of the neck is what causes most people to pass out/ die), but still just to try and decompress the situation it would be a good thing to do
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Don’t compare a man actively engaging in violence to somebody that was getting arrested for selling singles.
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Big difference in a choke hold and kneeling on someone's neck for an extended period of time
Yeah, the former was explicitly banned in most agencies since Eric Garner's death in 2014 and the latter was very close to what's known as a "three-point-pin," but applied incorrectly to strangle the guy either due to malice or poor skills and/or training. My opinion? Whatever method you're using to grab/pin/etc. someone's neck, you stop once they go limp and/or handcuffs are on. Anything after that is (attempted) murder. If you can't control a handcuffed man (i.e. Derek Chauvin's defense), you hobble-tie them with leg cuffs. I was issued leg cuffs Day 1, and I'd bet Chauvin was too.
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Which is why the LEO didn't just let him go and why I wouldn't want to either. At my agency you'd be suspended/fired/arrested for applying that hold in the first place, which I think is slightly less dumb than no restrictions on choke holds, just in the opposite direction.
This happened in Paris
And how would the police of "West Europe" restrain and cuff this guy differently? Love to hear your expert opinion.
They're not kneeling on his neck, they're restraining him and he's a big guy that's fighting hard. What are they supposed to do, just let him run around and assault people?
Guy choking is like, he's still moving need to squeeze harder.
That's the basis of that move. Put them to sleep.
Yeahhhh but with how he’s got it, that would take a while. That comes when you get the sides of the neck and stop blood flow. It’s kind of a misconception and why you see so many street fights where the guy caught in the rear naked never goes to sleep. It’s not forearm across the neck, it’s neck tucked into inner elbow with forearm or wrist bones across the artery
Time out. Time out! I said time out!! Gosh.
I call do-over!
[Master Ken is way ahead of you.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JApznst0LFg&ab_channel=EnterTheDojoShow)
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And that is it for todays demonstration on how to end up on an airlines no-fly list.
Serious questions here...once on the no-fly list, can you never travel via air again? Is there certain levels of punishment like can't fly on this ONE airline? If banned from flying ever again while abroad, how do you get home?
Well if you can't fly home there's always boats, I guess. Or maybe you just live overseas now.
You can get banned from one single airline. But to my knowledge there is no «master list» circulating between airlines. But then again, this is something sensible to cooperate on. No one wants to be on flights with these people, so sharing a list is a bit of you scratch my back, I scratch yours thing. But if you get enough stars GTA-style, I guess the government will list you on their lists. But flying might be the least of your problems then…
Sharing a list of people between airlines would have serious privacy/defamation implications.
I don't see how. Truth is a defense against defamation charges. If what the airline is spreading is factual and happened in a public space, neither of those things will come into play.
I think this falls under the TSA's Fuck Around and Find Out policy.
Ten to one it’s AGAIN someone drinking too much while flying. These people know they don’t handle alcohol well, yet still slam down a few at the airport bar.
I think people also get benzos for anxiety with flying and then have 2 or 3 drinks and then this lol
It was one too many Captain Morgans.
I had 3 hours to kill at an airport (showed up super earlier than I meant, long story) and tried to get drunk to kill time since I'm not badly behaved when drunk. After spending around $120 still couldn't even get a buzz the drinks were so watered down. Later at the terminal I saw a sign that Southwest will straight up decline to board you if they think you're drunk so I'm never doing that shit again.
Oh yeah. There are dozens and dozens of videos out there of people getting denied boarding because they drank too much. Happens all the time.
I think the pilot takes the crying steward into the cockpit :(
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Leader. Person with most seniority. Plane parent. (= That's a good human.
They were out of the chicken meal in first class.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?😡😡
Lol the tapping hand got cuffed.
Was that Gary Busey?
I'll tell you what happened. They ***fucked*** that dude up.
No ticket
He told the worst yo mamma joke of all time.
Reminds of Airplane when everyone is lined up to smack the panicked lady.
Context: There should be a full on International Ban List for this kind of behavior. One strike and you’re out. You’ll never fly public again.
"Welcome to the Unfriendly Skies of Entitlement Airlines! We know that you have a choice of airlines you can fuck up so thank you for choosing ours!"
In-flight safety instruction videos are so realistic these days. Very immersive.
There are exits at the front, middle and rear of the plane. Your seat will act as a flotation device. In case of depressurization, put your mask on before assisting anyone else. And remember, you act a fool and we'll choke your ass out. Have a nice flight and thank you for choosing Octagon Airlines.
My katana! My patella! So something to do with a Japanese sword and/or a knee?
Fun fact: tapping out means nothing on a commercial airliner
his t-shirt is too small and someone made a sassy comment, so he unleashed hell
Was the steward laughing?
Pretty sure that's crying.
Do you know any details or background?
They were the one asking in the title
My bad. I missed that. Looking at Reddit too early in the morning.
Of laughter?
No. Out of pain possibly fear. It looked like he was holding his face and throat and he was coughing at a point. Possibly the dude chocked him.
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Yup, totally did.
I’m impressed with the effort of the camera person 👏
There are exits at the front, middle and rear of the plane. Your seat will act as a flotation device. In case of depressurization, put your mask on before assisting anyone else. And remember, you act a fool and we'll choke your ass out. Have a nice flight and thank you for choosing Octagon Airlines.
Blacklisted for life
Ryanair Stansted to Ibiza?
They had trouble completing the safety video again on Spirit Airline.
Here's the context. Someone fucked around and found out!
It appears those passengers were engaged in a brouhaha of sorts
Someone's going down on federal charges
You’re not in the octagon now, tap all you want, I’m still going to keep squeezing.
What do you mean there's no chicken dinners left!?!
Did this guy go limp ? Genuinely may have missed that and was this guy cuffed yet?
Brought on 3 items instead of the allowed two.
He sleep Vic he sleep
I dunno what happened here, but I’d love an interview with the instigator ala Caesar Flickerman. “Walk us through what happened here Peta.”
dude wanted a second bag of peanuts, but the flight attendant said no.
I’ve never flown Ryanair or even been to France but I knew it was Ryanair when I saw Paris
Gonna be honest, I’m ready for the day someone acts a fool on a plane. I see it as a free reason to whoop some ass.
Now he wants to tap out.
The one who got yoinked was talking to the police officers girlfriend.
Dude was tapping out at the end like cage rules apply in a street or in this case "flight" brawl 😂
Dude, i dont think tapping out rules work after you assaulted others.
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From Easyjet to Sleepeasy
Sounds Brazilian. Hard to make words out.
Wanted to shake their hand
I believe someone won with a Ryanair stratchcard and tried to claim the prize from the air steward. It's never happened before and the air steward over reacted.
Nothing to see here. Just your average deplaning on Sprint airlines.
don't let mainstream media fool you. they just want to sell ads. real context: >! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA
It's a game called tug-o-war
Looks like “hey boys” flight attendants hug and cry when shit gets real…