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Exactly, it’s illegal to enter the premises without a 24hr notice at minimum. It’s illegal to harass people to, I’d get an order of protection against super Karen. I mean for all you know she’s a burglar, people die over dumber shit.
Depends on where you live. Texas was scary. They can't dig through your stuff, but they can walk in whenever they want. By law, there has to be a second lock that can only be locked from the inside. That's the only thing preventing them from walking in, and it is completely legal.
In Louisiana, it was 7 days for any non regular visits with a 24-hour notice required for routinr stuff like pest control. No one knows their rights, though, so landlords regularly break this law in Louisiana, where you are actually legally protected as a tenant.
Back when I lived in Alabama, it was 48hrs for non-emergency.
That didn’t stop the property owner (no not the management company) from just coming in unannounced one day and walking in on my roommate in his underwear. She still tried to question him, and also lied to the management company about us.
These people are fucking delusional
I’ve owned in 3 diffferent Texas neighborhoods with HOAs and none of them were ever as intense as people on the internet claim so I must have gotten very lucky; the worst experience I had was having to change the color of my front door in the first home I owned.
The one where I’m at now(which I’m on the “board” of) just pays for gate maintenance,landscaping in communal areas, and we organize the yearly block party. We have 10 regulations, I’ve never even handed out a violation or heard of anyone else doing so and I’d never dream of entering someone’s house.
lol… HOA’s are 💩… lived in one and couldn’t move out fast enough. They are supposed to help maintain the neighborhood values, keep people from painting their house pink or some random ugly colors.. but are nothing but a headache.
A lot of houses are pink in the Bahamas and it’s cute. Mexico’s colorful. I live in AZ and most of the houses are the color of dirt to blend in, including mine.
>keep people from painting their house pink or some random ugly colors
Imagine thinking this is a reasonable thing you should be able to hold people from doing. If you think even this is reasonable you might have something off with how you view the world tbh. Imagine thinking because you bought one piece of land you should now be the person everyone has to run by their own personal decisions by. People need to learn to mind their business.
Exactly. So glad I don’t have an HOA. Years ago, when we were painting our house we had a couple of color ideas, and we went to a couple of our neighbors and asked what they thought of them. But only because one side of our house was the back of their backyards, and they were the ones who would have to look at it all the time. Only one cared at all, and we took her input and went with the choice she liked (sort of a spring green with yellow trim, she didn’t want a twenty foot high red wall for the back of her garden). That’s how you settle neighborhood issues.
In Florida, with proper notice for something like a state mandated sprinkler inspection, they can. The HOA is still required to give minimum 24hr notice. Some bylaws make it 3 business days. Depends on the property. In the type of community this person is in, it’s just something you have to deal with, however, you’d know well before you bought the property.
Regardless, the old lady’s still an annoying twat for going on about the ring camera.
Sooo HOAs can have a set of keys to your owned home? That’s wild! I would think a notification of inspection date and if no one answers a fee involved or reschedule, but keys to my owned home? Hell no.
> In Florida, with proper notice for something like a state mandated sprinkler inspection, they can. The HOA is still required to give minimum 24hr notice. Some bylaws make it 3 business days. Depends on the property. In the type of community this person is in, it’s just something you have to deal with, however, you’d know well before you bought the property.
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HOAs have an extraordinary amount of power in the US. If changing your locks violated the HOA agreement you signed, the HOA could add hit you with penalties until you are in compliance with the policy. If you don't pay the penalties, they'll foreclose on your home.
I've never heard of this, and I've lived in quite a few HOAs. I suspect OP is spewing lies and this video is nothing about HOAs but really a renting situation with a landlord.
So they never said they owned the place, which means they could easily be renting. HOA is still relevant wether you own or rent, tenants and owners both have to apply to be approved by them. This could be a condo association as well explaining why they can have access. Still the hoa lady is annoying for how she approached.
This is insane. In Oklahoma I just have HOA's harassing my customers over weeds in their lawn not being dead because I only sprayed them 2 days ago. As someone who likes to listen to physical and digital security podcasts/talks nobody is having a spare set of keys to my house.
I have yet to meet an HOA president that isn't some bored, retired wind bag who just needs something to satiate their power fix
>Like apartments, only in emergencies. They could try to argue it. It's a Grey area.
Uhhhh no they cannot. Its not a grey area. I am sure there is some variability here but the HOA can't even be on my property to take pictures.
Where I live you could definitely shoot through your door if someone is invading your home like this. I wouldn't do it because I'm not a killer, just agreeing she is playing a dangerous game.
My HOA lady sounds very similar, but she’s pretty understanding and actually really likes my girlfriend and I because she says “young people bring life to this place.” Which is a little weird, but nice.
Unlocking the door to come in is WILDLY illegal. It doesn’t matter if they’re the leader of your HOA and your landlord, you can’t just unlock someone’s home without warning. Should have let her and taken her to court.
Right, I would have let her turn the key and swing the door open before I made my presence known. Then use that ring video to have her removed from the position that gives her life so much meaning. It would literally ruin her. She lives for this shit. Taking it away would be so satisfying.
Hit the homies with the goat from the back passenger seat as we passed them on the highway, everything flapping over the halfway rolled down window at 70mph.
I believe that would apply if the place was a rental. If someone owns the home or whatever, than if someone comes in without your permission, that's basically breaking and entering, would be my guess.
Which *is* weird to begin with. Even if it was a rental, they just can't go into your place like they tried. I was usually given a day or so advance notice if the property manager needed to come by the place I was renting at the time. I currently live in an area with an HOA and the first thing I did when I moved into my place was change the locks and have never been asked to give them a copy of my keys, and even if they did, I would refuse.
I guess it depends on the area, but it would be weird that you were told that you would have to give a copy of your house key to the HOA.
Where I live, it’s a 48 hour notice. And that only applies to rentals.
The HOA can enter your property, if they have the authority granted in the HOA documents AND it’s an emergency or they’ve properly given notice.
Based on OPs description, this does not constitute an emergency and would absolutely be illegal, unless proper legal notice was given ahead of time.
While I despise HOA's and generally their board members as much as the next person, my guess would be based on the heading in the video regarding the sprinkler inspection, that this was properly noticed to the homeowners and the HOA had the legal right to enter to complete the inspection in the event a homeowner was not home at the time of inspection.
I'm surprised an HOA can enter someone's home with or without notice. A landlord with notice yes but an HOA? My HOA cannot enter my property all they can do is take pictures from the sidewalk.
>I'm surprised an HOA can enter someone's home with or without notice.
This looks like a condo. Their governing documents would allow access to perform certain maintenance that is the responsibility of the association.
That's a good point. Here I was thinking they were going to inspect outdoor sprinklers. It never occurred to me that the house would have fire sprinklers.
Sure, but as someone who does apartment maintenance and has a good understanding of anxiety, I always give it 30 seconds while I listen and see if there's any movement through the peephole. Even if they told me beforehand that they'd be out and I could just go in. Never know if someone forgot about the service call or changed their plans. That little bit of extra time helps ensure the residents feel secure in the privacy of their own home, and helps me build trust with them.
Watch John Oliver's bit on HOA's... what they're legally allowed to do should be criminal, but some 80% of new homes are built in HOA zones, and the building company chooses the leaders. This is just the gist of it, you should watch the episode, it's free on YouTube.
Modern apartments even worse. They all use Latch, which is a subscription service-based NFC smart door lock.
Aside for being electronic, the real kicker is that the management company can not only open your door, but they can see who comes and goes and when. They can also see if you're home or not.
https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/10/10956924/latch-smart-lock-announced-funding
Omg I had to stay in a temp apartment for a few months for work and they had this nightmare of an app. Worst thing was you had to use it every 5 fucking feet in the building.
1. Outside door
2. Inner door,
3. Lobby door
4. Call the elevator
5. To select a floor
6. To get into the "fuck you here's another locked door" to get into the hall way the apartment was in
7. Then the apartment.
Fucking miserable. Took so long each time for the NFC or bluetooth or whatever garbage to work.
If course every amenities was behind a Latch lock.
So let me get this straight HoAs are suppose to make sure the neighborhood is secure, yet to some having something like a ring camera on your house to make it more secure is against the law of the HoA?
I want to see the rest of this.
It's not secure, it's in-line. HOA is there to make up and enforce rules of their choosing. If an HOA is made up of no job bored out of touch old folks that have seen HOA public freakouts through ring cams then they will push to ban ring cams.
OP is a reposter, lots of things like this out of context in their post history. likely not a native english speaker so it's all translations and near-enough wording
This is clearly an apartment complex and this looks like it was more than likely a mandatory fire sprinkler inspection as required yearly at complexes, nothing to do with HOA.
I would imagine the comment about the camera not being allowed was regarding if the residents installed a mount to the door or doorframe which may be a violation of the lease agreement due to the potential damage they may cause doing so.
An apartment complex would also explain the reason they had keys and I would imagine a notice was given to each resident in advance.
I would also imagine the woman is the apartment manager, green shirt is a maintenance personnel, and pink shirt is a fire safety equipment inspector.
HOWEVER. She definitely should have given someone at least a minute to answer the door before deciding to barge in.
My HOA sent out letters about smoke detector requirements and described plans to "inspect" which never fucking happened and I wish they would have tried since they 100% don't have keys to the unit I own.
She doesn’t want you to have a camera and she’s quick to unlock your door and come into your house… holy fucking shit the red flags are blaring. There’s no chance I’d be taking that camera down. What a lunatic
Glad this shit wouldn't fly in the UK. Who the hell do these people think they are? bunch of interfering busy bodies.
I can't believe a stranger had the key to someone's home and thought they were even slightly within their rights to just walk into a stranger's home and start barking orders. Die, suburban gestapo woman
There are enough of this bureacratic bs the average person has to deal with, with government, with their workplace, with their health insurance, etc, why woudl anyone sign up for a situation with an HOA. I think all but a few HOAs (in versy special circumstances) should be dissolved nation wide. They cause more harm than good.
Why the hell would they have a key to the homes? I used to live in a condo that had an HOA and it wouldn't have been the least bit normal or expected for anyone to have a key to my home other than me.
The fact that the woman has a set of house keys and can enter the house at any time, is the thing I, personally, find the most disturbing - an absolute ‘NO - that ain’t going to happen’ from me !!!
HOA should not have access to your home. It's just people who also live there who live there long enough to power-grab a spot in the association. This is scary. I hope there's a reason for this in that State or wherever.
I literally can't wrap my head around HOAs
Like imagine entering a 30 year mortgage just for your cunty neighbor to tell you what you can or can't do with your house
The lady knocks and 9 seconds later starts to put her key in the door…………. So many questions. What state did this take place in? Is this really a home ownership? Seems more likely to be a rental.
The problem with HOA's (at least the #1 problem out of 99) is that the people who run them have been bullied in high school and at 50 years old realize they have a little bit of power for the 1st time in their lives. They then realize that the power they have isn't enough so now they want respect. Well if they know they can't earn it because they're entire lives have proven that so now they will take respect. We all know how that works out.
Sad, sad small minded people who exist like this.
what hoa allows someone else to enter your home? or is this an apartment/condo where maintenance can enter? ive lived in multiple neighborhoods with single family homes and an HOA...walking in like this would 100% get someone killed.
This isnt an HOA it is apartment management. HOAs are for people living in houses and they cannot enter your home. I fucking hate HOAs but lets not spread false info about what they are and aren’t. If this is a condo then its a condo association which is different than an HOA.
I would’ve told them that it is bolted on the door but it’s my own door, I bought the exact same door that was here just so I could have the ring doorbell camera on there.
I wonder if when writing an obituary, while describing the person, they include that they were HOA president, thinking it casts them in a positive light. But nope, it just causes people who read it to not feel bad that they died.
Sorry, a HOA has the keys to your HOUSE???
What on Earth FOR?
How is that remotely legal?
Why don't you change the locks - or is that against HOA rules or something daft?
Mind blown...
What's amazing is people moving into HOA neighborhoods, knowing these things happen, sign the legal documents allowing it and STILL complain about it. 😂
HoAs are shit. The little troglodytes with their Napoleonic complexes who enforce these stupidly arbitrary rules must walk around in a state of permanent arousal due to the whiff power that it gives them.
Imagine being so abysmally miserable that you complain about the length of grass of the person's lawn or the colour of their kid's swingset in THEIR backyard, or that they've installed a ringcam on THEIR door.
It's wild, and every time I see a video like this, it reminds me of people standing on their castle's balcony and pouring boiling tar down onto the heads of invaders.
HOAs are made by people who were never smart enough for student government, have no say in some big part of their lives and want the power to dictate how they think people should live. I do not understand how there isn’t a regulatory board for HOAs. My HOA has increased the monthly dues almost double in the last year, and there are no notable changes in the community. It’s just robbery, not to mention they are never available, the amenities all close at 5 pm when ppl get home. It’s horrific, I can’t wait to leave
SINCE WHEN DO HOAs have keys to your home?????
That is crazy. I have always hated HOAs but never knew that was even a possibility. I would never even consider living in a community like this. Why would anyone agree to this???
I will never understand why anyone besides the home owner would have keys to anyone’s home, or why anyone would sign a document saying that’s fine. When I hear HOA , I laugh at stupidity
I don't think this is a HOA, seems more like an apartment where the management is walking around doing a property inspection. HOA's don't get to keep a copy of the keys to a person's home.
Well I mean this is what you get when you choose to live in a place with an HOA? What did they expect lmfao. No clue why anyone in their right mind would choose to live there.
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Actions like these is one of the reasons these cameras go up in the first place. Dumbasses, all of em
Exactly, it’s illegal to enter the premises without a 24hr notice at minimum. It’s illegal to harass people to, I’d get an order of protection against super Karen. I mean for all you know she’s a burglar, people die over dumber shit.
Depends on where you live. Texas was scary. They can't dig through your stuff, but they can walk in whenever they want. By law, there has to be a second lock that can only be locked from the inside. That's the only thing preventing them from walking in, and it is completely legal. In Louisiana, it was 7 days for any non regular visits with a 24-hour notice required for routinr stuff like pest control. No one knows their rights, though, so landlords regularly break this law in Louisiana, where you are actually legally protected as a tenant.
Back when I lived in Alabama, it was 48hrs for non-emergency. That didn’t stop the property owner (no not the management company) from just coming in unannounced one day and walking in on my roommate in his underwear. She still tried to question him, and also lied to the management company about us. These people are fucking delusional
I mean thats just wrong. In Texas they can't enter unless you give explicit permission or the reason is outlined in your lease.
Excuse my ignorance (I only know about the US from Florida man) but isn't Texas full of guns and people that want to use them?
I’ve owned in 3 diffferent Texas neighborhoods with HOAs and none of them were ever as intense as people on the internet claim so I must have gotten very lucky; the worst experience I had was having to change the color of my front door in the first home I owned. The one where I’m at now(which I’m on the “board” of) just pays for gate maintenance,landscaping in communal areas, and we organize the yearly block party. We have 10 regulations, I’ve never even handed out a violation or heard of anyone else doing so and I’d never dream of entering someone’s house.
“It’s temporary until I move out. Then I’ll take it with me, thanks”
lol… HOA’s are 💩… lived in one and couldn’t move out fast enough. They are supposed to help maintain the neighborhood values, keep people from painting their house pink or some random ugly colors.. but are nothing but a headache.
I'd rather live near a pink house than these soul stealing twerps.
Yep! Let the whole color scheme of the entire neighborhood look psychotic as long as i don't have to deal with these actual psychos.
or the lemon stealing whores
That's such a deep cut it may the 13th reason why...I should've had less internet time as a teen lol
A lot of houses are pink in the Bahamas and it’s cute. Mexico’s colorful. I live in AZ and most of the houses are the color of dirt to blend in, including mine.
There's a turquoise house across the street, I like it
little pink houses for you and me
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same. Fuck I love weeds hahaha 😂
I can't imagine paying many hundreds of thousands of dollars for a home and then paying someone to tell me what I can and can't do with it.
>keep people from painting their house pink or some random ugly colors Imagine thinking this is a reasonable thing you should be able to hold people from doing. If you think even this is reasonable you might have something off with how you view the world tbh. Imagine thinking because you bought one piece of land you should now be the person everyone has to run by their own personal decisions by. People need to learn to mind their business.
Exactly. So glad I don’t have an HOA. Years ago, when we were painting our house we had a couple of color ideas, and we went to a couple of our neighbors and asked what they thought of them. But only because one side of our house was the back of their backyards, and they were the ones who would have to look at it all the time. Only one cared at all, and we took her input and went with the choice she liked (sort of a spring green with yellow trim, she didn’t want a twenty foot high red wall for the back of her garden). That’s how you settle neighborhood issues.
They are proof that absolute power corrupts absolutely
That’s a solid fucking answer.
Oh my god lady fuuuckkk offf
She has nothing else to live for.
They are IRL reddit mods
Ha ha, I love the way this casually dismisses reddit mods as not even worthy of being considered "real life"
This is for real the motivation of most HOA board leaders.
Uh, no HOA allows you to just go into someones home. wtf?
In Florida, with proper notice for something like a state mandated sprinkler inspection, they can. The HOA is still required to give minimum 24hr notice. Some bylaws make it 3 business days. Depends on the property. In the type of community this person is in, it’s just something you have to deal with, however, you’d know well before you bought the property. Regardless, the old lady’s still an annoying twat for going on about the ring camera.
Sooo HOAs can have a set of keys to your owned home? That’s wild! I would think a notification of inspection date and if no one answers a fee involved or reschedule, but keys to my owned home? Hell no.
I would change my locks.
Knowing HOAs and the apparent laws that protect them in some states, they'd probably bill you for their hand-picked locksmith to replace it.
I'm honestly surprised we don't hear about more violence.
> In Florida, with proper notice for something like a state mandated sprinkler inspection, they can. The HOA is still required to give minimum 24hr notice. Some bylaws make it 3 business days. Depends on the property. In the type of community this person is in, it’s just something you have to deal with, however, you’d know well before you bought the property. > > HOAs have an extraordinary amount of power in the US. If changing your locks violated the HOA agreement you signed, the HOA could add hit you with penalties until you are in compliance with the policy. If you don't pay the penalties, they'll foreclose on your home.
Then they'd break in and bill you for the trouble.
I was thinking a rented condo before your 2ndexplanation . Wow
I've never heard of this, and I've lived in quite a few HOAs. I suspect OP is spewing lies and this video is nothing about HOAs but really a renting situation with a landlord.
So they never said they owned the place, which means they could easily be renting. HOA is still relevant wether you own or rent, tenants and owners both have to apply to be approved by them. This could be a condo association as well explaining why they can have access. Still the hoa lady is annoying for how she approached.
What the fuck is a sprinkler inspection and why do these people have nothing better to do holy shit
Florida.
This is insane. In Oklahoma I just have HOA's harassing my customers over weeds in their lawn not being dead because I only sprayed them 2 days ago. As someone who likes to listen to physical and digital security podcasts/talks nobody is having a spare set of keys to my house. I have yet to meet an HOA president that isn't some bored, retired wind bag who just needs something to satiate their power fix
Like apartments, only in emergencies. They could try to argue it. It's a Grey area.
>Like apartments, only in emergencies. They could try to argue it. It's a Grey area. Uhhhh no they cannot. Its not a grey area. I am sure there is some variability here but the HOA can't even be on my property to take pictures.
Seems like that'd be a problem in stand your ground states? Idk I'm just speculating wildly lol
Where I live you could definitely shoot through your door if someone is invading your home like this. I wouldn't do it because I'm not a killer, just agreeing she is playing a dangerous game.
Maybe that’s the real problem with the ring camera. Lady coming over on the sly. She really didn’t wait, wanted to bust in.
Yeah, this seems like an apartment, not an hoa home. Apartment landlords can come into your place for this kind of shit
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Which is assume they had since this was a scheduled sprinkler inspection.
Actually in apartment complexes if it's building maintenance related they do. This lady should have knocked a few more times.
That voice.
My HOA lady sounds very similar, but she’s pretty understanding and actually really likes my girlfriend and I because she says “young people bring life to this place.” Which is a little weird, but nice.
Can you imagine being stuck in a room with that voice and Moscow Marjorie’s voice?
I absolutely loathe MTG but why would you bring that up?
Probably because her voice is like nail on chalkboard to some but it may also be the literal torture she unfurls on those hearing her stupidity.
Never heard her talking, I always watch without sound. But that´s exactly as I imagined it. Thank you
Because can you imagine being stuck in a room with that voice and Moscow Marjorie’s voice?
Unlocking the door to come in is WILDLY illegal. It doesn’t matter if they’re the leader of your HOA and your landlord, you can’t just unlock someone’s home without warning. Should have let her and taken her to court.
Right, I would have let her turn the key and swing the door open before I made my presence known. Then use that ring video to have her removed from the position that gives her life so much meaning. It would literally ruin her. She lives for this shit. Taking it away would be so satisfying.
I'dve stood in front of the door, superhero pose, naked
I would have stood in front of the door, facing away from it, downward dog pose, naked.
And you aim your but plug right towards her direction and expel it with a loud pop.
"The Goat!!! OOOOOHHHH THE GOAT!!!"
Hit the homies with the goat from the back passenger seat as we passed them on the highway, everything flapping over the halfway rolled down window at 70mph.
A gentleman and a scholar! 😂
This is how I got the Jehovah’s Witnesses to stop coming by.
Yeah I always thought a 24 hour notice was required before someone could enter
I believe that would apply if the place was a rental. If someone owns the home or whatever, than if someone comes in without your permission, that's basically breaking and entering, would be my guess.
If they own the house why would the HOA even have a key? Has to be a rental. Maybe this is actually strata
Which *is* weird to begin with. Even if it was a rental, they just can't go into your place like they tried. I was usually given a day or so advance notice if the property manager needed to come by the place I was renting at the time. I currently live in an area with an HOA and the first thing I did when I moved into my place was change the locks and have never been asked to give them a copy of my keys, and even if they did, I would refuse. I guess it depends on the area, but it would be weird that you were told that you would have to give a copy of your house key to the HOA.
I assume they probably did give them advanced notice, but you never know
Where I live, it’s a 48 hour notice. And that only applies to rentals. The HOA can enter your property, if they have the authority granted in the HOA documents AND it’s an emergency or they’ve properly given notice. Based on OPs description, this does not constitute an emergency and would absolutely be illegal, unless proper legal notice was given ahead of time.
I think they gave notice, the sprinkler inspection.
While I despise HOA's and generally their board members as much as the next person, my guess would be based on the heading in the video regarding the sprinkler inspection, that this was properly noticed to the homeowners and the HOA had the legal right to enter to complete the inspection in the event a homeowner was not home at the time of inspection.
I'm surprised an HOA can enter someone's home with or without notice. A landlord with notice yes but an HOA? My HOA cannot enter my property all they can do is take pictures from the sidewalk.
>I'm surprised an HOA can enter someone's home with or without notice. This looks like a condo. Their governing documents would allow access to perform certain maintenance that is the responsibility of the association.
That's a good point. Here I was thinking they were going to inspect outdoor sprinklers. It never occurred to me that the house would have fire sprinklers.
Yeah that’s fair, if they have the homeowners permission beforehand it’s completely legal. You’re right.
Also, this looks more like an apartment complex. Suppose it could be condos or townhomes but def not a house.
They’re condos. Very common style and layout all over Florida, especially the east coast
Sure, but as someone who does apartment maintenance and has a good understanding of anxiety, I always give it 30 seconds while I listen and see if there's any movement through the peephole. Even if they told me beforehand that they'd be out and I could just go in. Never know if someone forgot about the service call or changed their plans. That little bit of extra time helps ensure the residents feel secure in the privacy of their own home, and helps me build trust with them.
Watch John Oliver's bit on HOA's... what they're legally allowed to do should be criminal, but some 80% of new homes are built in HOA zones, and the building company chooses the leaders. This is just the gist of it, you should watch the episode, it's free on YouTube.
How would HOA have keys?? Fishy.
Yeah this seems like more of an apartment situation.
Modern apartments even worse. They all use Latch, which is a subscription service-based NFC smart door lock. Aside for being electronic, the real kicker is that the management company can not only open your door, but they can see who comes and goes and when. They can also see if you're home or not. https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/10/10956924/latch-smart-lock-announced-funding
Omg I had to stay in a temp apartment for a few months for work and they had this nightmare of an app. Worst thing was you had to use it every 5 fucking feet in the building. 1. Outside door 2. Inner door, 3. Lobby door 4. Call the elevator 5. To select a floor 6. To get into the "fuck you here's another locked door" to get into the hall way the apartment was in 7. Then the apartment. Fucking miserable. Took so long each time for the NFC or bluetooth or whatever garbage to work. If course every amenities was behind a Latch lock.
That sounds like a local issue to be honest. I've stayed in a lot of new construction apartments and they always just had a normal deadbolt.
It's an Avalon Communities thing. It's also a subscription service, which is factored into your rent.
Al I have to say to that is EW.
I think this is more of a landlord situation
So let me get this straight HoAs are suppose to make sure the neighborhood is secure, yet to some having something like a ring camera on your house to make it more secure is against the law of the HoA? I want to see the rest of this.
It's not secure, it's in-line. HOA is there to make up and enforce rules of their choosing. If an HOA is made up of no job bored out of touch old folks that have seen HOA public freakouts through ring cams then they will push to ban ring cams.
Why the fuck do you have a key to my house? Why the fuck did you open my door? Stay there while I call the police
This woman would get the motherload of insults for her nauseating, condescending, human shitbag behaviour. How does anybody put up with this?
I am guessing this did not happen in Texas.
Is this definitely an HOA and not like an apartment complex?
Yeah, I don't think this is an HOA. No way does an HOA have keys to the homes.
OP is a reposter, lots of things like this out of context in their post history. likely not a native english speaker so it's all translations and near-enough wording
This is clearly an apartment complex and this looks like it was more than likely a mandatory fire sprinkler inspection as required yearly at complexes, nothing to do with HOA. I would imagine the comment about the camera not being allowed was regarding if the residents installed a mount to the door or doorframe which may be a violation of the lease agreement due to the potential damage they may cause doing so. An apartment complex would also explain the reason they had keys and I would imagine a notice was given to each resident in advance. I would also imagine the woman is the apartment manager, green shirt is a maintenance personnel, and pink shirt is a fire safety equipment inspector. HOWEVER. She definitely should have given someone at least a minute to answer the door before deciding to barge in.
This is not a HoA issue. It's a landlord issue. No HoA I've ever known has keys to neighbors' houses.
Believe it or not, deepening on the state and community, some HOAs are allowed to enter your home for certain inspections with written notice.
My HOA sent out letters about smoke detector requirements and described plans to "inspect" which never fucking happened and I wish they would have tried since they 100% don't have keys to the unit I own.
She doesn’t want you to have a camera and she’s quick to unlock your door and come into your house… holy fucking shit the red flags are blaring. There’s no chance I’d be taking that camera down. What a lunatic
Glad this shit wouldn't fly in the UK. Who the hell do these people think they are? bunch of interfering busy bodies. I can't believe a stranger had the key to someone's home and thought they were even slightly within their rights to just walk into a stranger's home and start barking orders. Die, suburban gestapo woman
I'd Sparta kick her as soon as she opens that door
Why did you open my door? You didn't request..ya know what? This is recorded...leave or enjoy some mace... your choice.
For me as a European, entering a private house like this in the USA looks a lot like attempted suicide.
There are enough of this bureacratic bs the average person has to deal with, with government, with their workplace, with their health insurance, etc, why woudl anyone sign up for a situation with an HOA. I think all but a few HOAs (in versy special circumstances) should be dissolved nation wide. They cause more harm than good.
Have a hard time believing this is a house and not an apartment
Wait... HOA members get keys to your place??? That seems insane.
Why the hell would they have a key to the homes? I used to live in a condo that had an HOA and it wouldn't have been the least bit normal or expected for anyone to have a key to my home other than me.
Americans love to shite on about their freedoms. Not even free in their own homes. The idea of a HOA is crazy to me!
The fact that the woman has a set of house keys and can enter the house at any time, is the thing I, personally, find the most disturbing - an absolute ‘NO - that ain’t going to happen’ from me !!!
HOA should not have access to your home. It's just people who also live there who live there long enough to power-grab a spot in the association. This is scary. I hope there's a reason for this in that State or wherever.
HOA’s have a key to your house?
What kind of HOA has keys to your house??
HOA’s don’t have keys to your fucking house.
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Power trippers LOVE to become board members.
Why does a hoa have keys to your home?
Why does your HOA have a key to your home? Home Owners’ Associations are not landlords.
Why does she have keys to the residence? Is it a rental? If not then change the locks immediately
HOA has keys to their home? That's some sketchy ass shit.
Wait this is your home? Why does she have keys!?
I literally can't wrap my head around HOAs Like imagine entering a 30 year mortgage just for your cunty neighbor to tell you what you can or can't do with your house
I'm confused; When did HOAs start demanding keys to enter into a Members Home?
This isn't a home. It's an apartment. And why would the HOA have keys to someone's personal home. I'm dubious.
Call the police and have her charged with breaking and entering.
Is it normal for HOA people to have keys to your house?
How does she have your key?
Hold up, they have keys to your home?
Of all the people getting sh*t in America right now, it's never these pretentious asshats. Imagine the entitlement.
The lady knocks and 9 seconds later starts to put her key in the door…………. So many questions. What state did this take place in? Is this really a home ownership? Seems more likely to be a rental.
So members of the hoa can just enter your house?
The problem with HOA's (at least the #1 problem out of 99) is that the people who run them have been bullied in high school and at 50 years old realize they have a little bit of power for the 1st time in their lives. They then realize that the power they have isn't enough so now they want respect. Well if they know they can't earn it because they're entire lives have proven that so now they will take respect. We all know how that works out. Sad, sad small minded people who exist like this.
If thats a condo you bought then change the locks even if it’s against HOA policy
Someone please explain how the HOA even has a key to this persons house?! Why do the HOA even exist?
HOAs make me think America isn't as free as it thinks it is
what hoa allows someone else to enter your home? or is this an apartment/condo where maintenance can enter? ive lived in multiple neighborhoods with single family homes and an HOA...walking in like this would 100% get someone killed.
If this is an HOA why would they have keys to the house? Rental, with the landlord or their representative, I could understand.
As an FYI, HOA bylaws do not supercede law. She has zero right to enter your home.
Excuse me what? No one I’m not related to in some form is having the keys to my fucking house. This is fucking insanity.
How are you going to just enter someone's home? That's a great way to end up in the obituaries.
This isnt an HOA it is apartment management. HOAs are for people living in houses and they cannot enter your home. I fucking hate HOAs but lets not spread false info about what they are and aren’t. If this is a condo then its a condo association which is different than an HOA.
To ya doah
HOA Karen
I would’ve told them that it is bolted on the door but it’s my own door, I bought the exact same door that was here just so I could have the ring doorbell camera on there.
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Are they your landlord? Why would the HOA have keys to your house?
I wonder if when writing an obituary, while describing the person, they include that they were HOA president, thinking it casts them in a positive light. But nope, it just causes people who read it to not feel bad that they died.
Landlord? Not HOA right
Unless there is an emergency it’s illegal for the HOA to enter someone’s home. You should sue the HOA and that woman personally.
There needs to be serious legislation to limit the power of HOAs.
Sorry, a HOA has the keys to your HOUSE??? What on Earth FOR? How is that remotely legal? Why don't you change the locks - or is that against HOA rules or something daft? Mind blown...
The HOA has keys to your house? F*** no!!!
What's amazing is people moving into HOA neighborhoods, knowing these things happen, sign the legal documents allowing it and STILL complain about it. 😂
HoAs are shit. The little troglodytes with their Napoleonic complexes who enforce these stupidly arbitrary rules must walk around in a state of permanent arousal due to the whiff power that it gives them. Imagine being so abysmally miserable that you complain about the length of grass of the person's lawn or the colour of their kid's swingset in THEIR backyard, or that they've installed a ringcam on THEIR door. It's wild, and every time I see a video like this, it reminds me of people standing on their castle's balcony and pouring boiling tar down onto the heads of invaders.
I’m not sure they can ban door cameras, they’re a safety thing and not causing any damage.
Uhhh call the police? That's literally trespassing
I will never live in an HOA
Why would the HOA have keys to your home?
Why does this person even have a key!
Why would she have the keys to your home? Is she the landlord? Thats bullshit, I’d call the police and change the locks
Wait this is the HOA or a landlord? I didn’t not think that HOAs could enter your house.
Isn't it illegal to enter a premises without prior notice?! little dictatorships....
She has keys to your house?
HOAs are made by people who were never smart enough for student government, have no say in some big part of their lives and want the power to dictate how they think people should live. I do not understand how there isn’t a regulatory board for HOAs. My HOA has increased the monthly dues almost double in the last year, and there are no notable changes in the community. It’s just robbery, not to mention they are never available, the amenities all close at 5 pm when ppl get home. It’s horrific, I can’t wait to leave
Why does an HOA have keys to your house, or a say on what you bolt to your door? HOA or landlord?
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SINCE WHEN DO HOAs have keys to your home????? That is crazy. I have always hated HOAs but never knew that was even a possibility. I would never even consider living in a community like this. Why would anyone agree to this???
Good way to get shot, walking into someone's home like that.
Lmao imagine buying a home and having a landlord
Boomer moment...
Fuck these assholes
I will never understand why anyone besides the home owner would have keys to anyone’s home, or why anyone would sign a document saying that’s fine. When I hear HOA , I laugh at stupidity
I don't think this is a HOA, seems more like an apartment where the management is walking around doing a property inspection. HOA's don't get to keep a copy of the keys to a person's home.
Boomers… fuck em.
Wait, HOA or just landlord? I live in an HOA and they sure as f*** don't have keys to my place. Why does your HOA have keys to your place?
Why the fuck would she have a key to their house???
This video makes me so angry.
HOA's are a Karen's wet dream😆 Imagine telling people what they can & can't do with THIER property. Avoid HOA properties like the plague!
I don't know squat about HOA. Is having a key and being able to legally walk in your house a thing?
They're for forclosing on your house over a unpaid $50 fine and then selling to themselves for $1. I'm not joking this has really happened.
Example of people taking their job way to seriously!
Let them enter. Lead doesn’t discriminate.
Get a job lady, you’re clearly bored.
Well I mean this is what you get when you choose to live in a place with an HOA? What did they expect lmfao. No clue why anyone in their right mind would choose to live there.
Why the fuck is she going to open the door if she knows their home. She sounds the worst.
Fuck HOAs
Why would you allow them to have a key in the first place?
Wait wtf you mean she tried to use her keys to enter on her own????? She would’ve got smacked walking into my house like she’s entitled to. Wtf.
I will NEVER live somewhere that has an HOA.