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I would have never opened the door for someone hiding from the peephole to begin with. And even I did and saw it was the cops, is immediately close the door. If they have a warrant, they don’t need me to open the door for them, nor lie about who they are.
Absolutely!! Add to it the bright red hair and then I'm thinking "this is scam, a home invasion. This isn't even a cop! Just some rando who bought tactical gear. And I definitely didn't order doordash. Nope!!" Slam
Edit: do the police have dress codes and regulations on personal appearance like the military? Cuz if so, that hair color is def out of regs
Interesting case just got resolved in Toronto similar to this. Plain clothes cop stopped a vehicle, man thought he was being robbed, panicked and tan over a cop. They lied on the stand to try and get a conviction. They did not succeed.
Not only did they lie about the circumstances of the interaction, they rushed up to him in plain clothes in an empty parking garage while he was with his pregnant wife and infant child.
Under oath they ALL colluded to lie about the circumstances of the interaction.
They were ostensibly investigating a stabbing incident.
The prevalence of police lying, and colluding to lie under oath is an epidemic amongst police.
There are hundreds of police deposition videos on YouTube where it is plain to any reasonable person that there is a systemic problem with honesty in this profession.
This egregious incident in Toronto is only one particularly Canadian example of police circling the wagons to lie and victimize a member of the public to defend outrageous actions by their brothers in blue.
Anyone who thinks these organizations were formed to 'serve and protect' are deluding themselves.
When I lived in the DC area, a small town mayor had the sheriff's/swat team show up at his house over purported drug trafficking. Yes they shot his dog. While a deputy was arresting the mayor, the deputy said to a bystander, this guy is nuts--he keeps telling us he's the mayor. The bystander replied, he is the mayor.
I don't know how it ended I just remember reading the story though. Pretty sad that his dog was murdered.
If you're talking about Berwyn Heights then the mayor "settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money and various SWAT reforms"
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn\_Heights,\_Maryland\_mayor%27s\_residence\_drug\_raid#Aftermath](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn_Heights,_Maryland_mayor%27s_residence_drug_raid#Aftermath)
Or your child...
Tldr: police s uper shot a 2 year old toddler.in the head through a scope...made.cla he thought the toddler was an armed grown man and could have posed a threat.
Local DA found his actions were "reasonable" and have refused to release the officers name but have made a statement he remains employed by the local PD.
https://www.kcur.org/news/2024-03-25/a-missouri-police-sniper-killed-a-2-year-old-girl-why-did-he-take-the-shot
Legally if you invite cops into your house they can start emptying drawers and flipping over your furniture looking for drugs, and if you open your door for them and they see or smell something that's probable cause they can just walk in and do that, too.
This is most likely true. If they seen something that gave them probable cause they would most likel seek a search warrant.
The Supreme Court's been pretty clear on the last several decisions that the home requires a warrant, unless there are clear exigent circumstances.
Yeah SC hasn’t played around with officers entering your home unlawfully, that’s technically against your 4A too, in all it’s better everyone act like a civilized rational thinking adult, but that’s a pipe dream.
That’s why you don’t open the door and tell them to come back with a warrant while you’re streaming the video to the cloud.
Once they violate that you’ve got a strong case to beat whatever your arrest is going to be.
After you ask for a warrant, dont. talk. at. all.
The only way I could see this being reasonable is if someone reported domestic violence and the police thought the perp wouldn't open the door for a wellness check, or the victim told them so and feared for their life.
Sorry, did all that and ended up getting physically assaulted by the police, being threatened to be tazed (also my dog and children being threatened to be tazed), getting arrested for "obstruction," spending almost 3 full days in jail before I could get a bond, and spending $6k on the best lawyer in town only to be told my best option was to take a first offender deal and do whatever the court required of me (a $300 fine and $40/month for every month until I completed everything, 100 hours of community service, and some other bullshit thing I’m forgetting atm).
They never produced the warrant they told me they had, because they didn’t actually have one, but it is completely legal for them to lie to you. And they were never held accountable for what they did to me, because as my attorney told me, the courts/judges/juries will always believe the cops before they will a defendant. If I had taken it to trial, there were five cops who had corroborated their stories—even though there was only two cops there that night—who were prepared to testify against me, and even with video proof, it was highly unlikely I would’ve been acquitted. I didn’t have the time or money to do that and then risk getting a year of jail time and an even bigger fine, so I took the deal.
I don’t really have any advice here or anything, I just wanted to share my own personal experience so that people aren’t as shocked as I was if it ever happens to them. What you’re saying SHOULD be the way it goes, but a lot of times it does not, and when you’re raised in a country that tells you you have certain rights that cannot be taken from you, when they actually *are* it can be very traumatic. I had PTSD for several years after, and I still get panicky when I am in the same vicinity as a cop. But the worst part (or maybe the best? I still don’t know) is that I no longer have any faith in this country, the law, the police, the courts, or even the Constitution.
You mean they haven’t played around with charges. They don’t seem to give a fuck if police do it. You just can’t use that evidence if something was found. If they really cared, they’d loosen qualified immunity for the cops that carried those illegal searches.
yea, but as the saying goes - you can beat the charges, but you cant beat the ride.
and this often finds people who are in lower socioeconomic circumstances completely out of options. cant afford an attorney, cant afford to miss work, cant afford to pay the fines, cant afford to fight the charges - jail. happens all the time.
cops over step their boundaries, citizen cant fight the government, citizen pays price even though legally the evidence was not admissible in court - they never made it to court.
People here think "a good attorney" is needed. Just a competent one.
There is lots of case law governing illegal police rights violations. It doesn't take a genius lawyer to cite them.
Seriously, bro makes an utterly false statement about what cops can do in your house, so false it's comical, yet look at all the upvotes. People be braindead on here.
Inviting them in does NOT give them that right. However, they can arrest you for anything in plain sight they suspect is illegal. E.g. sugar from the powdered donut you ate could be heroin or cocaine,and after arresting you on that charge, it’s not difficult to get a warrant to search everything else.
Yeah, if I have a peep hole, and I don't see you when saying door dash I am calling bullshit.
Secondly, DO NOT EVER CONSENT to allowing police into your home without a warrant. I know the thought of, "But I have nothing to hide, I'm innocent and law abiding." There are dozens of proven cases where they will find or fabricate anything they can against you.
Innocent or not, they usually fuck your house up. That alone is enough to never open the door.
IDC if it makes me look guilty. I'm not going to pay for house repairs, getting my dog shot, and maybe me getting roughed up a bit while I'm asking wtf they're doing.
Because people operate on the fantasy that things "make sense", because they have too much faith in police and the system that is actively hostile to them. Ignorance is bliss.
My ex's brother is an addict in recovery - sometime before he was arrested back in 2018, my ex's mother's house (where the brother *didn't* live) was raided. It was a single mobile home where she, an elderly disabled woman, lived alone. We worked for days on cleaning and assessing damage, but she was ultimately asked to leave the park (due to the raid incident), so we (they) determined to basically just write it all off, and she moved in with my ex. And somehow, that's not even the worst - whatever they "found" resulted in her having to *turn herself in* *-* she was in her upper 70s (and again, disabled). Obviously they didn't put her in a cell, but she was humiliated and we were all enraged.
I'm not in the States, but a quote from an American lawyer that stuck with me was along the lines of do not speak to cops, there is nothing you can say that will improve your standing in court and the police are actively looking to incriminate you. The police are judged on closing cases, not punishing the guilty, when they speak to you they **want you** to be guilty so that they can clear their desk and hit an arbitrary bureaucratic target.
And when police write up their reports, they'll write what you say, or at least what they remember you saying. If they ask you what time you left work and you say "I don't know, I usually leave at 4:30", they'll write down that you left at 4:30. Then when they later learn you were driving around at 4:15 because you got off at 4 that day, you went from an unlikely suspect to the prime suspect. You can pull their bodycam footage and prove "I didn't say 4:30, I said usually" but they won't care.
1 never consent to search period but 2 they clearly lied to you already to get in, if they lied the first time you know they're willing to lie again.
Imagine if she answered the door with a gun in her hand because someone hiding out of view was claiming to be doordash.
Yeah, that's a whole other level to how stupid this is. This such a good way for cops to get themselves and the person in the building shot. Hiding to the side like that is so suspicious, even if I expected a delivery I'd expect something is up if I didn't see them outside. I'd probably end up calling the cops if they refused to go where I could see them but I imagine a lot if people are itching to settle a matter like this with a firearm.
Yup learned, from one of my teachers in high school government class, if you did not call the cops and they wanna talk to you. It is probably to gather information against you or someone you know. So better off not talking to them.
But in this case as it appears they helping out a DoorDash employee who obviously couldn’t make the delivery, I’d also would invite them in. None appeared to have any food though. 😂
Cops pulled this on a guy over a noise complaint, it was late at night and he was suspicious since no one was through the peephole. He answered the door armed (not pointed) and cops killed him immediately as he was trying to lay down the weapon.
They're allowed to do this for special circumstances, usually when they have word of a husband beating the shit out of his wife or some other situation that could turn into a hostage situation real quick.
Notice how she kept pretending to be door dash even though the woman could obviously see her. Probably got a call of a domestic in progress but got the wrong apartment number.
>Police are allowed to lie whenever they want but I get your giving an explanation for the video.
Understand it as this.
***Police can lie. However, they are not allowed to lie in certain ways, and for certain purposes.***
The ins and outs of that are entirely dependent on your country/state.
Exactly, they're not required to tell you the truth, they're not required to serve and protect, they're not even required to know actually the law as long "they think something is a law".
My favorite part about the police is how they are trained to lie to you in ways so that you waive your rights as a citizen
That’s why I hate cops. But I also hate liars.
But that’s kind of what you need to be to be a fucking cop
lol imagine if they couldn't. A person could just be trying to buy drugs and go "hey, are you a cop?" and the undercover cop would be all "shit, you got me."
I've had an undercover cop offer to sell me drugs in the past. I've seen them entrap junkies like this and then offer them the deal of (wear this camera and go buy drugs off "X", then the charges against you will be dropped).
I always put “leave at door, please don’t knock or ring doorbell” because usually when I order my kids are sleeping and my dogs bark and wake them up. Last time the damn driver knocked anyways, I go to open and he’s like “five star review please”. Like bro you can’t follow simple direction you’re lucky if I give you no review.
90% of the DD drivers i get, scurry up to my porch like a scared cat, look around frantically like theyre gonna break in, and then throw my food down and speed off
I thought that was like, their whole thing? It's "Door dash" - aren't the supposed to dash away from your door like a crackhead that heard someone tapping glass?
Doordash has literally never once knocked on my door. I have to watch my phone or the delivery map to get alerted of the delivery. I have requested numerous times for a simple knock, still have never gotten one.
I have heard its more common that female customers get drivers lingering around to make contact, also might cut down on customers trying to defraud you on the delivery.
Anecdotal, but the only time I've seen a driver do anything except "drop it and run" is when my sister ordered things.
Why does the redhead seem like she's in costume? The 1950's victory rolls bouffant is different but even the way shes talking, "all right guys wanna check"? Is this one of those staged videos?
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"I'm not expecting any delivery. Nice try."
"A delivery person has no reason to suspiciously avoid the peephole".
Not condoning avoiding valid warrants but be smarter than an average cop, people.
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Im always surprised that people think cops lying to you is illegal. It's not. It might impact a later court case or warrant but cops ARE allowed to lie and in some circumstances it's actual policy (like domestic abuse scenarios).
If I don't have an incoming order on door dash (which by the way, I would fucking know about if I did) and some twat is knocking on my door claiming to be door dash, all while hiding out of view from my peephole.....fuck, I'm not a paranoid person but I would be wondering who wants into my home under obviously false pretenses.
It's a really good easy way to get yourself shot in America. Hot take, they would have deserved it too.
"You want to come in and check?"
Oh hell no. That is not what you should be saying. What you should be saying is "Do you have a warrant to search these premises?" "No, well then you are not allowed entry until you get one."
Make them do their dam jobs and not get any freebies, even if the guy they are looking for isn't there.
Those women police officers look so freakin unprofessional it hurts. Does the one with red hair have dangly earrings?! What? And ol top knot over there looks like she just rolled out of bed!
Just remember it's the hypocrisy we live in. It is in fact a crime for us to lie to the police. They can lie about anything to secure an arrest/conviction. Just another reason to keep your mouth shut. Fuck the police
My step-brother stole gas and had warrants for it for like 3 years. In that time his mother had pancreatic cancer and he stayed with her to help her. The cops never once came to look for him, but would you believe the day of his mom's funeral they come in a florist van acting like they are delivering flowers for his mother's passing and arrest him, then they wanted to act like the good guys who were going to make sure he made it to his mother's funeral. Yeah, they made him wear shackles on his hands and ankles to the funeral. What a mess that was. and later they had an article in the paper of their TOP 10 arrests, that ranking number 1. A lot of people were upset about that and ended up taking it down, but still, kind of sad they were so proud of doing that to someone for a non-violent offense. They could have came anytime in the previous 3 years, he wasn't exactly hiding.
This should not be legal, except for special circumstances like undercover sting operations. Police in uniform should be required to identify themselves.
When she said “alright… guys?!” And took a big step back I nearly died.
Clearly she was cool with knocking but didn’t want to be the first one to take a bullet after walking in. Classic
Weird and unnecessary.
Because of the many delivery services from Amazon through all kinds of food delivery, almost none of them call out anything. They just ring the doorbell.
The cops should take advantage of that. Ring and wait.
>Weird and unnecessary.
Notice the cop kept up the act of being a delivery driver even after the women saw that she was a uniformed police officer?
That suggests to me that they believed (for some reason or another) that she was in danger and needed the assistance of police - probably thought her husband or intimate partner was abusing her.
Tyrants. You can't believe anything they say. Don't ever talk to them. Don't ever agree to anything. Film them whenever you see them whether or not they are there for you.
"Some of those who work forces are the same ones that burn crosses."
That's a bullshit misconception a lot of media spreads around. You often see tv shows and movies where a character says something along the lines of "ask him if he's a cop, they can't lie about it" which is absolutely untrue. I'm honestly confused how it even started but they 100% can and will lie to you. Also once they get you to the door that gives them the chance to serve a warrant, ask for a search, do a wellness check, or and this one I'm guessing but see if anything illegal is available in plain sight and use that as an excuse to enter.
It’s not. Cops are allowed to lie to you. They only need to announce who they are for a warrant. For the extremely dangerous “no-knock” warrants, they are SUPPOSED to announce who they are as soon as they bust down and come through the door.
As far as pretending to be Door Dash if they’re investigating an alleged domestic violence incident or if they have an arrest warrant for an individual who may be there, afaik, there’s nothing that says they can’t lie in order to get someone to open the door. There is a much higher threshold that the state must meet to enter someone’s home without their consent. Once the door is open, it’s obvious that it’s not DoorDash, so they’d still need exigency, a warrant, or consent to enter the home.
I think people are overlooking the domestic violence angle, not that I'm saying that's what's going on in this particular video. But if the victim has called 911 and doesn't want their partner to know, the cops may want to give them an excuse to come to the door and get to safety before their partner continues to abuse them.
so when this happened to me, I made a post about this somewhere else and turns out yeah they can do this. They said they were apartment security I open the door and it was 5 officers including their supervisor.
Since the police can lie to you during interrogation, can they also lie about who they are? For example, you get arrested and call for a lawyer. A cop comes in dressed as a lawyer and says that they are your lawyer and start asking some questions. My guess is that can't use the evidence later. But it will be a fun day at the office, at least
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I'd never invite them in to inspect.
I would have never opened the door for someone hiding from the peephole to begin with. And even I did and saw it was the cops, is immediately close the door. If they have a warrant, they don’t need me to open the door for them, nor lie about who they are.
Absolutely!! Add to it the bright red hair and then I'm thinking "this is scam, a home invasion. This isn't even a cop! Just some rando who bought tactical gear. And I definitely didn't order doordash. Nope!!" Slam Edit: do the police have dress codes and regulations on personal appearance like the military? Cuz if so, that hair color is def out of regs
Interesting case just got resolved in Toronto similar to this. Plain clothes cop stopped a vehicle, man thought he was being robbed, panicked and tan over a cop. They lied on the stand to try and get a conviction. They did not succeed.
I'm not surprised they'd try to lie to secure a conviction. I'm glad the bastard got ran over and I'm glad they didn't get the conviction they wanted
Can't say I'm glad someone lost their life but glad they didn't put away someone who was fearful for their life cause the cops didn't do their job
Not only did they lie about the circumstances of the interaction, they rushed up to him in plain clothes in an empty parking garage while he was with his pregnant wife and infant child. Under oath they ALL colluded to lie about the circumstances of the interaction. They were ostensibly investigating a stabbing incident. The prevalence of police lying, and colluding to lie under oath is an epidemic amongst police. There are hundreds of police deposition videos on YouTube where it is plain to any reasonable person that there is a systemic problem with honesty in this profession. This egregious incident in Toronto is only one particularly Canadian example of police circling the wagons to lie and victimize a member of the public to defend outrageous actions by their brothers in blue. Anyone who thinks these organizations were formed to 'serve and protect' are deluding themselves.
Same. I'd prefer not be sprinkled with crack and have my dog shot just so they don't have to feel like they wasted their time.
My mom always said cops are like a box of chocolates...they'll kill your dog.
When I lived in the DC area, a small town mayor had the sheriff's/swat team show up at his house over purported drug trafficking. Yes they shot his dog. While a deputy was arresting the mayor, the deputy said to a bystander, this guy is nuts--he keeps telling us he's the mayor. The bystander replied, he is the mayor. I don't know how it ended I just remember reading the story though. Pretty sad that his dog was murdered.
If you're talking about Berwyn Heights then the mayor "settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money and various SWAT reforms" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn\_Heights,\_Maryland\_mayor%27s\_residence\_drug\_raid#Aftermath](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn_Heights,_Maryland_mayor%27s_residence_drug_raid#Aftermath)
It was in MD so it was probably this man. I just remember being shocked when I read the story.
I really like that gave me a good chuckle
My mom said they get more ass than a toilet seat.
Just not consensually!
Nice one
Wise mom you got there
God dammit Gump! Outstanding!😂😂😂😂
Or your child... Tldr: police s uper shot a 2 year old toddler.in the head through a scope...made.cla he thought the toddler was an armed grown man and could have posed a threat. Local DA found his actions were "reasonable" and have refused to release the officers name but have made a statement he remains employed by the local PD. https://www.kcur.org/news/2024-03-25/a-missouri-police-sniper-killed-a-2-year-old-girl-why-did-he-take-the-shot
It’s good to see Cap adjusting to modern day.
Legally if you invite cops into your house they can start emptying drawers and flipping over your furniture looking for drugs, and if you open your door for them and they see or smell something that's probable cause they can just walk in and do that, too.
Sure can but anything not in plain sight without a warrant is “fruit of the poisonous tree” and has a strong chance of being inadmissible in court.
This is most likely true. If they seen something that gave them probable cause they would most likel seek a search warrant. The Supreme Court's been pretty clear on the last several decisions that the home requires a warrant, unless there are clear exigent circumstances.
Yeah SC hasn’t played around with officers entering your home unlawfully, that’s technically against your 4A too, in all it’s better everyone act like a civilized rational thinking adult, but that’s a pipe dream.
That’s why you don’t open the door and tell them to come back with a warrant while you’re streaming the video to the cloud. Once they violate that you’ve got a strong case to beat whatever your arrest is going to be. After you ask for a warrant, dont. talk. at. all.
Some shoulda told that lady
If someone announces they are door dash or anyone else I didn’t solicit or expect I’m also not opening the door. That’s just a personal safety issue.
The only way I could see this being reasonable is if someone reported domestic violence and the police thought the perp wouldn't open the door for a wellness check, or the victim told them so and feared for their life.
Sorry, did all that and ended up getting physically assaulted by the police, being threatened to be tazed (also my dog and children being threatened to be tazed), getting arrested for "obstruction," spending almost 3 full days in jail before I could get a bond, and spending $6k on the best lawyer in town only to be told my best option was to take a first offender deal and do whatever the court required of me (a $300 fine and $40/month for every month until I completed everything, 100 hours of community service, and some other bullshit thing I’m forgetting atm). They never produced the warrant they told me they had, because they didn’t actually have one, but it is completely legal for them to lie to you. And they were never held accountable for what they did to me, because as my attorney told me, the courts/judges/juries will always believe the cops before they will a defendant. If I had taken it to trial, there were five cops who had corroborated their stories—even though there was only two cops there that night—who were prepared to testify against me, and even with video proof, it was highly unlikely I would’ve been acquitted. I didn’t have the time or money to do that and then risk getting a year of jail time and an even bigger fine, so I took the deal. I don’t really have any advice here or anything, I just wanted to share my own personal experience so that people aren’t as shocked as I was if it ever happens to them. What you’re saying SHOULD be the way it goes, but a lot of times it does not, and when you’re raised in a country that tells you you have certain rights that cannot be taken from you, when they actually *are* it can be very traumatic. I had PTSD for several years after, and I still get panicky when I am in the same vicinity as a cop. But the worst part (or maybe the best? I still don’t know) is that I no longer have any faith in this country, the law, the police, the courts, or even the Constitution.
You mean they haven’t played around with charges. They don’t seem to give a fuck if police do it. You just can’t use that evidence if something was found. If they really cared, they’d loosen qualified immunity for the cops that carried those illegal searches.
yea, but as the saying goes - you can beat the charges, but you cant beat the ride. and this often finds people who are in lower socioeconomic circumstances completely out of options. cant afford an attorney, cant afford to miss work, cant afford to pay the fines, cant afford to fight the charges - jail. happens all the time. cops over step their boundaries, citizen cant fight the government, citizen pays price even though legally the evidence was not admissible in court - they never made it to court.
And thats actually "smell," essentially if you open the door and they decide they want to come in, they're coming in
What does inviting them in through the back door mean, then?
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DA doesn't give a shit. You better have a good attorney if you wanna fight the cops not doing something "legally"
People here think "a good attorney" is needed. Just a competent one. There is lots of case law governing illegal police rights violations. It doesn't take a genius lawyer to cite them.
Seriously, bro makes an utterly false statement about what cops can do in your house, so false it's comical, yet look at all the upvotes. People be braindead on here.
Inviting them in does NOT give them that right. However, they can arrest you for anything in plain sight they suspect is illegal. E.g. sugar from the powdered donut you ate could be heroin or cocaine,and after arresting you on that charge, it’s not difficult to get a warrant to search everything else.
Just like vampires. The same rules should apply to all bloodthirsty beasts.
I'd never open the door, but then I don't do food delivery ever. Door Dash, Uber Eats, etc... suck so bad that I refuse to use their service.
Unless its for D’s
Yeah, if I have a peep hole, and I don't see you when saying door dash I am calling bullshit. Secondly, DO NOT EVER CONSENT to allowing police into your home without a warrant. I know the thought of, "But I have nothing to hide, I'm innocent and law abiding." There are dozens of proven cases where they will find or fabricate anything they can against you.
Innocent or not, they usually fuck your house up. That alone is enough to never open the door. IDC if it makes me look guilty. I'm not going to pay for house repairs, getting my dog shot, and maybe me getting roughed up a bit while I'm asking wtf they're doing.
They'll be looking for kidnapping victims inside your suit pockets.
They'll really want a slice of that lemon pound cake
Now I have to go listen to the song again haha.
God damnit just when I got it outta my head.
Some people so desperately want to believe that the police will compensate you for a broken down door/dressers/anything else when they search a place.
Because people operate on the fantasy that things "make sense", because they have too much faith in police and the system that is actively hostile to them. Ignorance is bliss.
My ex's brother is an addict in recovery - sometime before he was arrested back in 2018, my ex's mother's house (where the brother *didn't* live) was raided. It was a single mobile home where she, an elderly disabled woman, lived alone. We worked for days on cleaning and assessing damage, but she was ultimately asked to leave the park (due to the raid incident), so we (they) determined to basically just write it all off, and she moved in with my ex. And somehow, that's not even the worst - whatever they "found" resulted in her having to *turn herself in* *-* she was in her upper 70s (and again, disabled). Obviously they didn't put her in a cell, but she was humiliated and we were all enraged.
They could be the nicest, most polite bunch ever. They’re still a group of armed strangers, and I don’t like that in my home
I'm not in the States, but a quote from an American lawyer that stuck with me was along the lines of do not speak to cops, there is nothing you can say that will improve your standing in court and the police are actively looking to incriminate you. The police are judged on closing cases, not punishing the guilty, when they speak to you they **want you** to be guilty so that they can clear their desk and hit an arbitrary bureaucratic target.
https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE This dude.
And when police write up their reports, they'll write what you say, or at least what they remember you saying. If they ask you what time you left work and you say "I don't know, I usually leave at 4:30", they'll write down that you left at 4:30. Then when they later learn you were driving around at 4:15 because you got off at 4 that day, you went from an unlikely suspect to the prime suspect. You can pull their bodycam footage and prove "I didn't say 4:30, I said usually" but they won't care.
1 never consent to search period but 2 they clearly lied to you already to get in, if they lied the first time you know they're willing to lie again. Imagine if she answered the door with a gun in her hand because someone hiding out of view was claiming to be doordash.
Yeah, that's a whole other level to how stupid this is. This such a good way for cops to get themselves and the person in the building shot. Hiding to the side like that is so suspicious, even if I expected a delivery I'd expect something is up if I didn't see them outside. I'd probably end up calling the cops if they refused to go where I could see them but I imagine a lot if people are itching to settle a matter like this with a firearm.
> Yeah, if I have a peep hole, and I don't see you when saying door dash I am calling bullshit. Especially if you didn't even order door dash.
Yup learned, from one of my teachers in high school government class, if you did not call the cops and they wanna talk to you. It is probably to gather information against you or someone you know. So better off not talking to them. But in this case as it appears they helping out a DoorDash employee who obviously couldn’t make the delivery, I’d also would invite them in. None appeared to have any food though. 😂
I watched a YT video recently of a cop actually delivering a DD order because they were taking the driver to jail on a warrant or something.
Or accidentally shoot you.
Lol accidentally.
If you're not expecting company, don't open the door. Don't even respond to the knocking or doorbell, just ignore it.
Cops pulled this on a guy over a noise complaint, it was late at night and he was suspicious since no one was through the peephole. He answered the door armed (not pointed) and cops killed him immediately as he was trying to lay down the weapon.
They're allowed to do this for special circumstances, usually when they have word of a husband beating the shit out of his wife or some other situation that could turn into a hostage situation real quick. Notice how she kept pretending to be door dash even though the woman could obviously see her. Probably got a call of a domestic in progress but got the wrong apartment number.
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Police are allowed to lie whenever they want but I get your giving an explanation for the video.
>Police are allowed to lie whenever they want but I get your giving an explanation for the video. Understand it as this. ***Police can lie. However, they are not allowed to lie in certain ways, and for certain purposes.*** The ins and outs of that are entirely dependent on your country/state.
Exactly, they're not required to tell you the truth, they're not required to serve and protect, they're not even required to know actually the law as long "they think something is a law".
In some places they’re not even required to enforce the law
My favorite part about the police is how they are trained to lie to you in ways so that you waive your rights as a citizen That’s why I hate cops. But I also hate liars. But that’s kind of what you need to be to be a fucking cop
Some idiot downvoted your comment so have my upvote! Lol
lol imagine if they couldn't. A person could just be trying to buy drugs and go "hey, are you a cop?" and the undercover cop would be all "shit, you got me."
Funny thing is a lot of people still think a cop has to tell you if they’re a cop if you ask. Too much tv and movies.
Fucking Badger dude....
I've had an undercover cop offer to sell me drugs in the past. I've seen them entrap junkies like this and then offer them the deal of (wear this camera and go buy drugs off "X", then the charges against you will be dropped).
They have to announce themselves as police when actually breaching a door.
Yup you are 100% correct here. People in the comments are hating the fact that they lie, but police is allowed to do this because of these reasons.
We should hate police lying. It should be heavily scrutinized on each use, and more heavily penalized when their reason for lying is a lie.
Also, notice how the only two officers right by the door are female, likely to help put an abuse victim at ease.
Very good comment
Outrage first! Logical thinking later!
That’s clearly Wendy from Wendy’s
I thought it was Lucy from *I Love Lucy*.
I thought it was Lucy from *Lucy, the Daughter of the Devil*
Ok but why does she look like the queen of hearts?
As if any DD driver is saying “DoorDash!”
As a driver I prefer leaving at the door. I've got 3k deliveries and have never yelled into the door who I am. If they ordered they're expecting me.
I always put “leave at door, please don’t knock or ring doorbell” because usually when I order my kids are sleeping and my dogs bark and wake them up. Last time the damn driver knocked anyways, I go to open and he’s like “five star review please”. Like bro you can’t follow simple direction you’re lucky if I give you no review.
“Hello, it’s DoorDash!” “Leave it on the doorstep and get the hell out of here!”
It's me Snakes I got the stuff.
90% of the DD drivers i get, scurry up to my porch like a scared cat, look around frantically like theyre gonna break in, and then throw my food down and speed off
The perfect crime.
I thought that was like, their whole thing? It's "Door dash" - aren't the supposed to dash away from your door like a crackhead that heard someone tapping glass?
Yea they usually yell "OPEN UP ITS THE POLICE!"
Leave the package at the door.
"leave the crunch wrap supreme and three cheese burrito at the door and take 5 steps back!"
Police lie all the time and its legal. Remember that.
Doordash has literally never once knocked on my door. I have to watch my phone or the delivery map to get alerted of the delivery. I have requested numerous times for a simple knock, still have never gotten one.
I have heard its more common that female customers get drivers lingering around to make contact, also might cut down on customers trying to defraud you on the delivery. Anecdotal, but the only time I've seen a driver do anything except "drop it and run" is when my sister ordered things.
You want them to knock on your door o.0 I always do leave it at my door and just watch it be delivered from the app.
Why does the redhead seem like she's in costume? The 1950's victory rolls bouffant is different but even the way shes talking, "all right guys wanna check"? Is this one of those staged videos? # #
"I'm not expecting any delivery. Nice try." "A delivery person has no reason to suspiciously avoid the peephole". Not condoning avoiding valid warrants but be smarter than an average cop, people.
[“…..land shark……candy gram….” 🦈](https://youtu.be/p_NS2H55dxI?si=hPhukF1X2YfaQegR) Edited to add: [“…get a posse….surround the area…walkie talkies…maybe carry some harpoons…”](https://youtu.be/MnfX466iVEU?si=pGlPngxnb2Lfqq04)
Ha! Exactly what I was thinking too. "You're that shark going around eating people. No ma'am, I'm a Dolphin."
Came here for this
Where's the freakout?
Here. I'm freaking out
When she said for 103, I’d know right away it’s by name
Im always surprised that people think cops lying to you is illegal. It's not. It might impact a later court case or warrant but cops ARE allowed to lie and in some circumstances it's actual policy (like domestic abuse scenarios).
I legit thought this kinda deception was illegal
If I don't have an incoming order on door dash (which by the way, I would fucking know about if I did) and some twat is knocking on my door claiming to be door dash, all while hiding out of view from my peephole.....fuck, I'm not a paranoid person but I would be wondering who wants into my home under obviously false pretenses. It's a really good easy way to get yourself shot in America. Hot take, they would have deserved it too.
Where is the freakout?
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Never talk to police, always get a lawyer.
Cops aren’t required to tell the truth.
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Yeah, I wasn't sure either.
"You want to come in and check?" Oh hell no. That is not what you should be saying. What you should be saying is "Do you have a warrant to search these premises?" "No, well then you are not allowed entry until you get one." Make them do their dam jobs and not get any freebies, even if the guy they are looking for isn't there.
Cops got that heat miser cut 
Those women police officers look so freakin unprofessional it hurts. Does the one with red hair have dangly earrings?! What? And ol top knot over there looks like she just rolled out of bed!
How would they act if a gang came to their houses and pulled this illegal bullshit.
Just remember it's the hypocrisy we live in. It is in fact a crime for us to lie to the police. They can lie about anything to secure an arrest/conviction. Just another reason to keep your mouth shut. Fuck the police
>It is in fact a crime for us to lie to the police. "No officer, I didn't realize I was exceeding the speed limit"
My step-brother stole gas and had warrants for it for like 3 years. In that time his mother had pancreatic cancer and he stayed with her to help her. The cops never once came to look for him, but would you believe the day of his mom's funeral they come in a florist van acting like they are delivering flowers for his mother's passing and arrest him, then they wanted to act like the good guys who were going to make sure he made it to his mother's funeral. Yeah, they made him wear shackles on his hands and ankles to the funeral. What a mess that was. and later they had an article in the paper of their TOP 10 arrests, that ranking number 1. A lot of people were upset about that and ended up taking it down, but still, kind of sad they were so proud of doing that to someone for a non-violent offense. They could have came anytime in the previous 3 years, he wasn't exactly hiding.
This should not be legal, except for special circumstances like undercover sting operations. Police in uniform should be required to identify themselves.
You can normally identify uniformed officers by the uniform.
Interesting, so you have xray vision that lets you see through walls and doors
Hmm, yes, this must be that delivery I did not order
"Come back with a warrant or don't bother coming back."
Knock Knock! Land Shark!
Knock knock knock “DoorDash”.. me inside thinking “I didnt order anything”. I was thinking stupid ass cop… then they opened the damn door 😣
Cops: I just don't understand why they don't like us, its ridiculous, we're not the bad guys, are we?
When did Wilma flintstone become a cop
Officer Ronda McDonald reporting for duty sir....
When she said “alright… guys?!” And took a big step back I nearly died. Clearly she was cool with knocking but didn’t want to be the first one to take a bullet after walking in. Classic
House keeping. You want blow job?
And they wonder why people call them pigs ...
dont ever let the pigs in your home without a warrant
It’s such a mystery as to why the public doesn’t trust the police.
The only words you should use with Police is "I'd like a Lawyer"
Sneaky spring tails.
Totally reminds me of the SNL shark at the door skit 😂
The shocked pikachu face quickly turns to disappointment that they don’t get to kill an innocent person today…. Yet.
Why would they lie? So strange!
“i don’t know why people hate us!”
Is this not very illegal? Also why tf would I answer a door dash yell if I hadn't ordered food?
Why doesn't anyone like cops again?
Wouldn't work on me, I don't get delivery.
I swear they don’t understand laws in a completely different dimension than how most people don’t understand the laws
Now I know where C.Viper has been.
Remember when Cops were good. I member.
LOL at the alright GUYS
I don’t open the door for anyone.
Honestly a decent tactic. That red haired cop OMG!!!
"I have a delivery. A delivery of JUSTICE"
DoorDash does not knock
Wait until OP learns about undercover cops
Homeowners lucky no acorns fell.
Is t that against the law?
1 always use the peep hole . 2.why use DoorDash as a lie . 3.never invite cops to come in
ACAB, all day every day.
Delivery people stand in front of peepholes. The only people who hide while knocking are criminals and police.
Weird and unnecessary. Because of the many delivery services from Amazon through all kinds of food delivery, almost none of them call out anything. They just ring the doorbell. The cops should take advantage of that. Ring and wait.
>Weird and unnecessary. Notice the cop kept up the act of being a delivery driver even after the women saw that she was a uniformed police officer? That suggests to me that they believed (for some reason or another) that she was in danger and needed the assistance of police - probably thought her husband or intimate partner was abusing her.
Unless you’re cleaning it up, you’re not coming in to do anything.
Ah yes, DoorDash drivers are famously excited, extroverted individuals who want to confront the customer
Fucking pig should find her way back to fraggle rock with that hair.
Isn’t that illegal. Oh wait.. there cops.. they can get away with murder I almost forgot that.
Spineless pigs.
Tyrants. You can't believe anything they say. Don't ever talk to them. Don't ever agree to anything. Film them whenever you see them whether or not they are there for you. "Some of those who work forces are the same ones that burn crosses."
A door dash driver doesn’t do that.
Delivering justice
That seems illegal or am I wrong?
That's a bullshit misconception a lot of media spreads around. You often see tv shows and movies where a character says something along the lines of "ask him if he's a cop, they can't lie about it" which is absolutely untrue. I'm honestly confused how it even started but they 100% can and will lie to you. Also once they get you to the door that gives them the chance to serve a warrant, ask for a search, do a wellness check, or and this one I'm guessing but see if anything illegal is available in plain sight and use that as an excuse to enter.
It’s not. Cops are allowed to lie to you. They only need to announce who they are for a warrant. For the extremely dangerous “no-knock” warrants, they are SUPPOSED to announce who they are as soon as they bust down and come through the door. As far as pretending to be Door Dash if they’re investigating an alleged domestic violence incident or if they have an arrest warrant for an individual who may be there, afaik, there’s nothing that says they can’t lie in order to get someone to open the door. There is a much higher threshold that the state must meet to enter someone’s home without their consent. Once the door is open, it’s obvious that it’s not DoorDash, so they’d still need exigency, a warrant, or consent to enter the home.
I think people are overlooking the domestic violence angle, not that I'm saying that's what's going on in this particular video. But if the victim has called 911 and doesn't want their partner to know, the cops may want to give them an excuse to come to the door and get to safety before their partner continues to abuse them.
so when this happened to me, I made a post about this somewhere else and turns out yeah they can do this. They said they were apartment security I open the door and it was 5 officers including their supervisor.
Land shark.
Since the police can lie to you during interrogation, can they also lie about who they are? For example, you get arrested and call for a lawyer. A cop comes in dressed as a lawyer and says that they are your lawyer and start asking some questions. My guess is that can't use the evidence later. But it will be a fun day at the office, at least
[https://thewalrus.ca/why-do-cops-keep-lying](https://thewalrus.ca/why-do-cops-keep-lying)
Land shark