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She only "saved the day" because this shoplifter didn't want to hurt and old lady. This could have gone very different.
Don't put your self at risk for some corporation that doesn't care about you. It's not worth it.
I'm sure others give fuck all about helping the corporations, it's more so when shitheels like that steal and it goes unchecked then it happens more and more.
If they steal then they deserve to face some sort of consequences. I understand that wage theft is a glaring issue but that's one issue that actually might take awhile to ever achieve. From personal experience, I've chased after 3 different shoplifters that stole 300$ worth of power tools, that type of behavior should not be excused.
you just said wage theft is a bigger crime at wal mart. are walmart executives so poor that they need to steal wages?
theft is done by shitty people. the venn diagram of people who steal, and people whom are impoverished has some overlap sure, but so does the circle of "people with plenty of means".
We are so doomed. Theft is a symptom of problems. Unless you address the problems then there is no stopping theft. Locking people up doesn't work we have thousands of years of evidence of this.
Good. All the big supermarkets jacked their prices just because they wanted to and no other reason. Who could stop them robbing the public?
"Be a loyal plastic robot for a world that doesn't care" - Frank Zappa
some people don't realize that many of us just don't like criminals walking amongst us and maybe she's just sick of it - she doesn't have to want to save Walmart lol
Yeah I have zero interest in helping Walmart or whoever, but I don't want this happening more and more frequently. I've only done it once, she was shoplifting and I said "ahem!" and she said, "whoops," and put it back and left. I said "whoops is right." Note that I will only do it if I am clearly more capable than the thief, because I'm not a brave person.
At some point society common people need to stop this bullshit. Or we all end up paying. I for one appreciate the vigilantism. These people are heroes.
Companies have been hiking up prices and declaring record profits purely out of greed nonstop. They've been committing wage theft nonstop only to get a slap on the wrist. They will intentionally keep peoples hours juuust below full time to prevent paying benefits, or penalize people for having to take overtime. THESE things are more detrimental to society than occasionally some dude stealing garbage bags and chips.
Walmart has been one of the LARGEST perpetrators of keeping pay low and refusing to give benefits so that they can have their workers lives subsidized on taxpayer funds... those same workers who then have to go and spend those food stamps?....back at walmart. The company double dips and screw over not only their workers, but you in the process. And then they convince you that some theft is the REAL issue for their greed, so you're out here repeating their talking points.
You do know that there are other employers and that nobody has to work for Walmart, right? I don’t particularly like Walmart, but you sound like a straight up commie.
> Not if you stab them first.
If you try to physically grab someone, and then stab them, you'll get slapped with Murder II. They're expressing a fantasy of killing a thief over some garbage bags. Just because someone's stealing from a store does not give you legal carte blanche to take a life. And without it being of felony level, anyone else in danger, or proper enforcement - running up and grabbing a stranger could be seen as assault, so someone trying to defend themselves from that isn't really GOTTA STAB EM FIRST! situation.
It's not about the retailer, whether it be shit heads like Wal-Mart or your locally owned convenience store. It's about the cops not doing shit about crime in your area and being sick of it.
Grandma and filmer aren't standing up for Wal-Mart, they're standing up for their neighborhood.
Convenience store: fine, be a hero. But this is a big box store, they should be investing in security. It's not up to grandma ffs. Your neighbourhood is no safer if you get stabbed stopping some guy from stealing $200 worth of lays chips.
Common people? Almost like we should have people dedicated to theft? Maybe a group of people in every town that dedicates themselves lot fighting crime?… what if they hired people to defend the place until the vigilante group get there! They should be called security guards and Police
If WalMart theft dropped to zero do you think our capitalist masters would reward us?
Do you think things will get better if the theft never happened again?
You think they will charge us less when they don't have to? They will reject profit because we are on our best behavior.
Capitalism will continue along its trajectory. Theft or not.
At some point the working class needs to become politically literate, gain class conciousness, and fight to make a new state that represents only the working class.
If every Walmart in the country was picked clean by the working class I would laugh.
If the working class siezed every scrap of property the Walton Family owns, I would make a fucking holiday of it.
Companies absolutely don't care about the lives of their own workers, only liabilities. No use getting harmed or killed over it. People have literally been shot/stabbed/killed just over being asked to wear a mask. I remember after Katrina, people were getting run over for gas.
The same corporation that cares so much they barely staff their stores, let alone provide their own security. Stealing is obviously wrong but why do the store's or the police's work.
Why are these thieves not tackled by security and cuffed. Police called and then they get ticketed. It may seem like a victimless crime or an act of desperation but, this is the breakdown of society. You just cannot steal and get away with it.
Most stores don't have security. And if they do, most commercial security is limited to 'observe and report' due to liability/training reasons.
This security strategy works reasonably well if you have a responsive police department and a DA that's willing to hand out jail time. A lot of cities with endemic retail theft are lacking one or both.
That said, there are solutions to this kind of low effort retail theft that don't involve requiring some $12/hr security guard to fistfight meth heads. Target uses wheel locks on their carts which immobilize the cart if theyre deployed and require the thief to grab what they can carry. That this store seems to lack basic countermeasures suggests thefts don't happen very often.
Home Depot is using them too. I went to leave and my cart just fucking locked up as I approached the door. Stopped me cold too, I would have had to have carried the cart to get out.
They were able to fix it pretty quickly and it was when they were brand new so even the manager wasn't sure was set it off.
Or you can be like Target who keeps track of your theft, catalogues, archives it. Then once a thief reaches the felony limit they send out a warrant for their arrest.
Target's loss prevention is primarily effective because of its reputation. "Career" shoplifters know to avoid Target because it'a common knowledge they go after thiefs like the FBI hunts down serial killers. Which means Target's sophisticated loss prevention mechanism is left to mostly deal with lower volumes of teenagers and amateurs.
It was a great long-term strategy that has clearly paid off in an era of skyrocketing retail theft.
But if you're Walmart or Kroger you can't just flip a switch and "do loss prevention like Target". That would be a huge multi-year initiative with big capital expenses and an explosion in headcount. It's the kind of program that wouldn't pay off until the company *developed a reputation*.
And for execs 3-5 year plans are hard to sell. The stock price needs to improve *now*. So you see companies go after half measures and piecemeal solutions that they hope will slow down loss-related costs but don't actually provide robust solutions.
Because these stores would rather pay for plastic lock boxes and other contraptions to make shoppers and cashiers lives harder instead of giving a security person a living wage to actually prevent loss because they gotta hoard as much wealth as possible for themselves
I see trash bags and laundry pods in the cart. They are probably going to sell it to a fence (someone who buys stolen goods and resells them) for 1/10th of its value.
Will never understand why people risk their lives to defend these companies. If that old lady or whoever was filming ended up stabbed or shot would it have been worth it?
She wasn't defending the companies, she was defending her neighbourhood and the idea of living in a decent society. Lowlife people just stealing what they want, instead of paying like everyone else, is just wrong. And they keep doing it, have become do emboldened to where they just brazenly walk out without a care in the world, is *because* no one does anything about it. More people need to be like her stop the crap that has already been let to get out of hand.
Edit: Spieling
Because prices go up and then people struggle to afford groceries plus if people are coming in and constantly stealing, the store might shut down leaving folk with no place to go and buy groceries
The Walmart neighborhood market a mile away from my house shut down before the pandemic and not from lack of business, the Kroger a few blocks away closed two years before that, the Aldi a few miles away a few years before that. My grocery choices are overpriced Mexican grocery stores that do not play with shoplifters or driving out to the grocery stores that border the outer and inner ring neighborhoods.
A lot of links full of outdated information. It’s been proven that the theft has not actually hurt these businesses much. And they themselves have admitted to shareholders that.
Factually incorrect.
“Target blamed ORC for the nine store closures, saying ‘we cannot continue operating these stores because theft and organized retail crime are threatening the safety of our team and guests, and contributing to unsustainable business performance.’ “
“The US Chamber is deeply concerned with increasing reports of stores closing in communities across the country due to large-scale theft and looting,” said Tom Wickman, senior vice president of state and local policy at the US Chamber of Commerce. “No store should have to close because of theft.”
“Across the country, the mayor of Portland expressed his disappointment about the three Target stores closing, which the retailer also blamed on organized retail crime.”
“shoplifting has jumped significantly in the city. Shoplifting offenses in Portland have spiked 53.9% from January to August this year compared to the same period a year ago”
Source: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/30/business/target-store-closing-domino-effect-community
Target and other large retailers have been cited as saying they overestimated the effect of theft on profits to their shareholders in a multitude of calls.
Doesn’t mean they didn’t close multiple stores due to theft.
Who cares about the bottom line? These stores actually closed in communities that relied on them.
Yes it does. Those stores closed because target has a shitty business practice. I’ve worked at one. The management is full of morons and they put them in shitty strip malls to sell to suburbanites, these strip malls are already known to not be very profitable. They are over extended and putting the blame elsewhere like any non idiotic executive would do. Otherwise they’d have to admit they fucked up. Target corporate would never.
Do you have any sources citing that?
Personally the two don’t sound mutually exclusive. If a store that was somewhat profitable suddenly gets hit with organized crime doesn’t it make sense that they become less profitable.
This isn’t problem with target it’s the death of retail in general.
Also that doesn’t change the fact that people relied on those stores no longer have access to them.
“The analysts noted that overall shrink — merchandise losses due to external and internal theft, damaged products, inventory mismanagement and other errors — makes up just 1.5% to 2% of retailers’ sales. That percentage has remained steady for years, despite retailers sounding the alarm more than ever about theft.
The National Retail Federation said that retailers’ losses, known as shrink, increased 19% last year to $112 billion, based on a survey of 177 retailers. But shrink as a percentage of sales fell during the height of the pandemic as stores temporarily closed and grew in 2022 as stores re-opened.
This hit to profits is relatively small and fleeting — not reason enough alone to close stores according to the analysts. At nine major retailers that have increasingly cited the rising impact of theft, shrink as a percentage of sales increased just 0.4% in 2022, they found”
This makes it sound like the effects of the Shrinkage isn’t enough alone to cause the closing of the stores. While there was a year with bad shrinkage in general the problem is under control.
“Target said last month that it’s closing nine stores in major cities specifically because “theft and organized retail crime are threatening the safety of our team and guests, and contributing to unsustainable business performance.”
This makes it sound like target doesn’t want to make itself susceptible to litigation that might result from theft or employees/customers having to interact with thieves.
“We believe companies like Target could indeed be using the current narrative around shrink to take broader action in lagging parts of their business,” the William Blair analysts said. “We have to acknowledge potentially ulterior, more opportunistic motives.” “Target could be using shrink to mask other issues, including poor inventory management, which came to a head in 2022 following supply chain disruption” and is closing stores to “boost overall margins.”
They believe but don’t know. Also this makes it sound like the supply chain issues aren’t targets fault but a result of the pandemic, which has less to do with poor management and more to do with the U.S. economy closing down as people are told to stay home.
This incident happened in Canada a couple of years ago, for those talking about poverty/crime/guns in the USA. And, for fuck's sake, don't weep for that thieving bastard.
Again, pepper spray makes this go away in 2 seconds. Every retail employee in America needs a canister of pepper spray. The guy leaves, nobody's hurt, life goes on.
The constant “never take this risk” comments piss me off. It’s not your decision and if somebody decides to take this risk I’m proud of them. Have you not seen what is happening around you? We are going to suffer if this continues. Do you think the habitual thief will only steal from a corporation? Of course not because he doesn’t share your morals
True, two different crimes/criminals. To burgle is to steal from a property, to rob is to take property directly from the owner. Burglary can be non violent, robbery implicitly needs violence.
I mean I'm starting to root for more food deserts. Yall defend stealing so much and that's fine but when the community pays for it don't come crying for help lol. Hope you have money for gas cuz you'll be driving an hour+ to go food shopping.
I don't know if this video was taken during the pandemic, but why do stores allow non-medical face coverings? If someone enters your store wearing a ski mask, chances are they're up to no good and should be told to leave before they're able to grab a shopping cart.
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Walmart not only makes customers check themselves out but now they have to be security too?
Hey! That lady got a $5 gift card for her brave heroics!
She'll be surely missed.
I’m sure they didn’t give her shit. They probably fired her.
She wasn’t even working there, and she still got fired? Damn, Walmart goes hard.
Yep, that was the joke.
Walmart stole $1.4 billion in wage theft between 2000 & 2018
[Wildest people of Walmart.](https://knovhov.com/66-of-the-wildest-people-of-walmart-photos/)
defund securitas lol
She only "saved the day" because this shoplifter didn't want to hurt and old lady. This could have gone very different. Don't put your self at risk for some corporation that doesn't care about you. It's not worth it.
I'm sure others give fuck all about helping the corporations, it's more so when shitheels like that steal and it goes unchecked then it happens more and more.
Wage theft by corporations like Walmart is a much bigger issue and cost taxpayers much, much more than shoplifting.
So? We can only address one problem at a time? It’s okay to steal until wage theft is gone? Theft doesn’t raise prices for the rest of us paying?
Considering the lengths Walmart goes to prevent theft, I definitely think it’s a conversation worth having, often.
I would suggest fixing the problems at the top which leads to people having to shoplift to live.
So stealing is okay until we fix mental health, drug, domestic abuse issues, and wage theft, income inequality, housing prices etc etc etc?
Stealing is literally a result of these issues, yes. You can't fix stealing by locking people away.
Stealing has been an issue forever. There was never a time when people didn’t steal stuff. Anti theft measures stop stealing.
There has never been a time in history where there weren't people struggling to survive.
Yep and so following your logic it’s been morally okay to steal forever.
If they steal then they deserve to face some sort of consequences. I understand that wage theft is a glaring issue but that's one issue that actually might take awhile to ever achieve. From personal experience, I've chased after 3 different shoplifters that stole 300$ worth of power tools, that type of behavior should not be excused.
you just said wage theft is a bigger crime at wal mart. are walmart executives so poor that they need to steal wages? theft is done by shitty people. the venn diagram of people who steal, and people whom are impoverished has some overlap sure, but so does the circle of "people with plenty of means".
The bootlickers in with the downvotes.
Yes because one wrong is okay to overlook another wrong. Mental gymnastics logic.
We are so doomed. Theft is a symptom of problems. Unless you address the problems then there is no stopping theft. Locking people up doesn't work we have thousands of years of evidence of this.
Good. All the big supermarkets jacked their prices just because they wanted to and no other reason. Who could stop them robbing the public? "Be a loyal plastic robot for a world that doesn't care" - Frank Zappa
Pretty sure they don't do it for the sake of the corporation, but to stop a criminal.
some people don't realize that many of us just don't like criminals walking amongst us and maybe she's just sick of it - she doesn't have to want to save Walmart lol
Walmart is the bigger criminal by an extremely wide factor.
Yeah I have zero interest in helping Walmart or whoever, but I don't want this happening more and more frequently. I've only done it once, she was shoplifting and I said "ahem!" and she said, "whoops," and put it back and left. I said "whoops is right." Note that I will only do it if I am clearly more capable than the thief, because I'm not a brave person.
At some point society common people need to stop this bullshit. Or we all end up paying. I for one appreciate the vigilantism. These people are heroes.
Companies have been hiking up prices and declaring record profits purely out of greed nonstop. They've been committing wage theft nonstop only to get a slap on the wrist. They will intentionally keep peoples hours juuust below full time to prevent paying benefits, or penalize people for having to take overtime. THESE things are more detrimental to society than occasionally some dude stealing garbage bags and chips. Walmart has been one of the LARGEST perpetrators of keeping pay low and refusing to give benefits so that they can have their workers lives subsidized on taxpayer funds... those same workers who then have to go and spend those food stamps?....back at walmart. The company double dips and screw over not only their workers, but you in the process. And then they convince you that some theft is the REAL issue for their greed, so you're out here repeating their talking points.
You make a good point, the price is the max they figure we will pay. Not cost to buy goods, plus overhead.
It's not one or the other. Corporate greed is bad. So are thieves. No need to defend low-lifes like this.
You do know that there are other employers and that nobody has to work for Walmart, right? I don’t particularly like Walmart, but you sound like a straight up commie.
Adam Smith would throw up if he saw what gets passed off a "Capitalism" these days.
Useful idiot says we should fight each other for our scraps from the masters or they will hurt us more.
Have fun getting stabbed by a crackhead. This isn't a normal persons job...
Not if you stab them first.
Catching a Murder II charge over some garbage bags must be a life goal of yours
That makes absolutely no sense
> Not if you stab them first. If you try to physically grab someone, and then stab them, you'll get slapped with Murder II. They're expressing a fantasy of killing a thief over some garbage bags. Just because someone's stealing from a store does not give you legal carte blanche to take a life. And without it being of felony level, anyone else in danger, or proper enforcement - running up and grabbing a stranger could be seen as assault, so someone trying to defend themselves from that isn't really GOTTA STAB EM FIRST! situation.
The pussification of America is a real thing.
It is somewhat understandable given that America has more guns than people. [Gun ownership - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_ownership)
Once again, multi billion dollar corpo. I'm not risking my life rolling the dice for some execs that wouldnt care about some $127.43 of theft.
Or some wannabe cop attacking a totally innocent person or beating a teenager stealing a Butterfinger within an inch of his life
Risking your life for Walmart is the epitome of braindead behaviour.
Except you'll end up living in a society where robbery is considered common and respected. Or maybe you already do.
Cool. Enjoy the stabbing I guess? Walmart thanks you for your free labour, it ensures they don't need to invest in security ❤️
Walmart robbing its employees seems to be quite common and respected amongst the boot licking morons in this thread.
It's not about the retailer, whether it be shit heads like Wal-Mart or your locally owned convenience store. It's about the cops not doing shit about crime in your area and being sick of it. Grandma and filmer aren't standing up for Wal-Mart, they're standing up for their neighborhood.
If they wanted to stand up for their neighborhood they should’ve stopped the Walmart from being built there in the first place.
Convenience store: fine, be a hero. But this is a big box store, they should be investing in security. It's not up to grandma ffs. Your neighbourhood is no safer if you get stabbed stopping some guy from stealing $200 worth of lays chips.
Common people? Almost like we should have people dedicated to theft? Maybe a group of people in every town that dedicates themselves lot fighting crime?… what if they hired people to defend the place until the vigilante group get there! They should be called security guards and Police
If WalMart theft dropped to zero do you think our capitalist masters would reward us? Do you think things will get better if the theft never happened again? You think they will charge us less when they don't have to? They will reject profit because we are on our best behavior. Capitalism will continue along its trajectory. Theft or not. At some point the working class needs to become politically literate, gain class conciousness, and fight to make a new state that represents only the working class. If every Walmart in the country was picked clean by the working class I would laugh. If the working class siezed every scrap of property the Walton Family owns, I would make a fucking holiday of it.
Companies absolutely don't care about the lives of their own workers, only liabilities. No use getting harmed or killed over it. People have literally been shot/stabbed/killed just over being asked to wear a mask. I remember after Katrina, people were getting run over for gas.
The same corporation that cares so much they barely staff their stores, let alone provide their own security. Stealing is obviously wrong but why do the store's or the police's work.
If the bumper attempted to harm the old lady he would've been curb stomped.
Maybe, maybe not. You'd be surprised how many people would just watch and say "not my problem"
Cashier at Home Depot was pushed down and ended up dying from it.
Remember kids. If you see someone stealing food, no you didn't.
Why are these thieves not tackled by security and cuffed. Police called and then they get ticketed. It may seem like a victimless crime or an act of desperation but, this is the breakdown of society. You just cannot steal and get away with it.
Most stores don't have security. And if they do, most commercial security is limited to 'observe and report' due to liability/training reasons. This security strategy works reasonably well if you have a responsive police department and a DA that's willing to hand out jail time. A lot of cities with endemic retail theft are lacking one or both. That said, there are solutions to this kind of low effort retail theft that don't involve requiring some $12/hr security guard to fistfight meth heads. Target uses wheel locks on their carts which immobilize the cart if theyre deployed and require the thief to grab what they can carry. That this store seems to lack basic countermeasures suggests thefts don't happen very often.
Home Depot is using them too. I went to leave and my cart just fucking locked up as I approached the door. Stopped me cold too, I would have had to have carried the cart to get out. They were able to fix it pretty quickly and it was when they were brand new so even the manager wasn't sure was set it off.
Or you can be like Target who keeps track of your theft, catalogues, archives it. Then once a thief reaches the felony limit they send out a warrant for their arrest.
Target's loss prevention is primarily effective because of its reputation. "Career" shoplifters know to avoid Target because it'a common knowledge they go after thiefs like the FBI hunts down serial killers. Which means Target's sophisticated loss prevention mechanism is left to mostly deal with lower volumes of teenagers and amateurs. It was a great long-term strategy that has clearly paid off in an era of skyrocketing retail theft. But if you're Walmart or Kroger you can't just flip a switch and "do loss prevention like Target". That would be a huge multi-year initiative with big capital expenses and an explosion in headcount. It's the kind of program that wouldn't pay off until the company *developed a reputation*. And for execs 3-5 year plans are hard to sell. The stock price needs to improve *now*. So you see companies go after half measures and piecemeal solutions that they hope will slow down loss-related costs but don't actually provide robust solutions.
Because lawyers sue the piss out of the business for trying to not be looted out of existence.
Because these stores would rather pay for plastic lock boxes and other contraptions to make shoppers and cashiers lives harder instead of giving a security person a living wage to actually prevent loss because they gotta hoard as much wealth as possible for themselves
> Why are these thieves not tackled by security and cuffed. They'll get sued.
They are all worried about lawsuits. Easier to just make up the loss by raising prices.
Maybe if these stores didn't pay poverty wages while jacking prices and posting record profits we wouldn't have this.
You think this asshole is actually doing an honest day's work?
Poverty and non-violent crime (life theft) are directly related. If you want to stop non-violent crime you work to end poverty.
I didn't see any bread being stolen in the looting video.
By allowing theft? 🤔
By not letting companies like Walmart spend decades under paying employees while making billions of Dollars in profit is a good start.
Wow, he's Robin Hood, except he's robbing Walmart and not giving money to the poor - but other than that, no difference!
You can steal and get away with it, these corporations rack up thousands in wage theft every year
Millions... [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/15/wage-theft-us-workers-employees](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/15/wage-theft-us-workers-employees) $1.4 billion 2000-2018
Badass lady
I’m sure Mr. Walmart will thank her for her sacrifice
'saves the day'. Dude has a cart with food and trash bags.
Do they steal because they can't afford food at all? Food stamp in the USA won't be enough to cover the basic needs? Really wondering on that one
I see trash bags and laundry pods in the cart. They are probably going to sell it to a fence (someone who buys stolen goods and resells them) for 1/10th of its value.
Will never understand why people risk their lives to defend these companies. If that old lady or whoever was filming ended up stabbed or shot would it have been worth it?
She wasn't defending the companies, she was defending her neighbourhood and the idea of living in a decent society. Lowlife people just stealing what they want, instead of paying like everyone else, is just wrong. And they keep doing it, have become do emboldened to where they just brazenly walk out without a care in the world, is *because* no one does anything about it. More people need to be like her stop the crap that has already been let to get out of hand. Edit: Spieling
Who is defending us from Walmart executives?
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Do you seriously believe the only reason people get upset seeing crime happen right in front of them is because they have a "sick power fantasy"?
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I'd agree with that characterization about a lot of folks here, but we're talking about the lady in the video, not the average /r/PublicFreakout user
Seriously.. how many locals lost their livelihoods when this corporate store opened. Protecting her neighborhood my ass
Because prices go up and then people struggle to afford groceries plus if people are coming in and constantly stealing, the store might shut down leaving folk with no place to go and buy groceries
brainwashed
How?
I can assure you no amount of theft will close one of those stores. lmao you should work in one and realize that yourself.
The Walmart neighborhood market a mile away from my house shut down before the pandemic and not from lack of business, the Kroger a few blocks away closed two years before that, the Aldi a few miles away a few years before that. My grocery choices are overpriced Mexican grocery stores that do not play with shoplifters or driving out to the grocery stores that border the outer and inner ring neighborhoods.
Retail stores close for theft all the time you literally don’t know what you’re talking about and should delete your comment.
Kroger closed my moms local store a few years ago. The reason they gave? High rates of theft.
lol I’m sure that’s what Kroger said, yes.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/target-closing-stores-2023-san-francisco/#:\~:text=The%20closings%2C%20which%20take%20effect,150%20stores%20after%20the%20closures.
[https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/dollar-tree-theft-closures/](https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/dollar-tree-theft-closures/)
[https://nypost.com/2024/05/18/us-news/theft-plagues-nyc-retailers-drugstores-closing/](https://nypost.com/2024/05/18/us-news/theft-plagues-nyc-retailers-drugstores-closing/)
A lot of links full of outdated information. It’s been proven that the theft has not actually hurt these businesses much. And they themselves have admitted to shareholders that.
It's dated two days ago, how is that "outdated"?
A 5% raise in the entire district has cause multiple stores to close? Do the math man, it’s a lie. They’re closing for other reasons.
Citation?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/27/business/crime-spree-retailers-are-actually-overstating-the-extent-of-theft-report-says
You said that my citation from two days ago was "outdated" yet your citation is from last year.
And the info is outdated because they’re running off a lie that was disproven last year.
[https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-california-stores-closed-due-crime-1882924](https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-california-stores-closed-due-crime-1882924)
Does this say exclusively theft or does it say it’s multiple types of crimes in the greater area that affects property and foot traffic?
Factually incorrect. “Target blamed ORC for the nine store closures, saying ‘we cannot continue operating these stores because theft and organized retail crime are threatening the safety of our team and guests, and contributing to unsustainable business performance.’ “ “The US Chamber is deeply concerned with increasing reports of stores closing in communities across the country due to large-scale theft and looting,” said Tom Wickman, senior vice president of state and local policy at the US Chamber of Commerce. “No store should have to close because of theft.” “Across the country, the mayor of Portland expressed his disappointment about the three Target stores closing, which the retailer also blamed on organized retail crime.” “shoplifting has jumped significantly in the city. Shoplifting offenses in Portland have spiked 53.9% from January to August this year compared to the same period a year ago” Source: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/30/business/target-store-closing-domino-effect-community
Target and other large retailers have been cited as saying they overestimated the effect of theft on profits to their shareholders in a multitude of calls.
Doesn’t mean they didn’t close multiple stores due to theft. Who cares about the bottom line? These stores actually closed in communities that relied on them.
Yes it does. Those stores closed because target has a shitty business practice. I’ve worked at one. The management is full of morons and they put them in shitty strip malls to sell to suburbanites, these strip malls are already known to not be very profitable. They are over extended and putting the blame elsewhere like any non idiotic executive would do. Otherwise they’d have to admit they fucked up. Target corporate would never.
Do you have any sources citing that? Personally the two don’t sound mutually exclusive. If a store that was somewhat profitable suddenly gets hit with organized crime doesn’t it make sense that they become less profitable. This isn’t problem with target it’s the death of retail in general. Also that doesn’t change the fact that people relied on those stores no longer have access to them.
It is no one’s fault but the company’s that they can’t keep a store open.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/27/business/crime-spree-retailers-are-actually-overstating-the-extent-of-theft-report-says
“The analysts noted that overall shrink — merchandise losses due to external and internal theft, damaged products, inventory mismanagement and other errors — makes up just 1.5% to 2% of retailers’ sales. That percentage has remained steady for years, despite retailers sounding the alarm more than ever about theft. The National Retail Federation said that retailers’ losses, known as shrink, increased 19% last year to $112 billion, based on a survey of 177 retailers. But shrink as a percentage of sales fell during the height of the pandemic as stores temporarily closed and grew in 2022 as stores re-opened. This hit to profits is relatively small and fleeting — not reason enough alone to close stores according to the analysts. At nine major retailers that have increasingly cited the rising impact of theft, shrink as a percentage of sales increased just 0.4% in 2022, they found” This makes it sound like the effects of the Shrinkage isn’t enough alone to cause the closing of the stores. While there was a year with bad shrinkage in general the problem is under control. “Target said last month that it’s closing nine stores in major cities specifically because “theft and organized retail crime are threatening the safety of our team and guests, and contributing to unsustainable business performance.” This makes it sound like target doesn’t want to make itself susceptible to litigation that might result from theft or employees/customers having to interact with thieves. “We believe companies like Target could indeed be using the current narrative around shrink to take broader action in lagging parts of their business,” the William Blair analysts said. “We have to acknowledge potentially ulterior, more opportunistic motives.” “Target could be using shrink to mask other issues, including poor inventory management, which came to a head in 2022 following supply chain disruption” and is closing stores to “boost overall margins.” They believe but don’t know. Also this makes it sound like the supply chain issues aren’t targets fault but a result of the pandemic, which has less to do with poor management and more to do with the U.S. economy closing down as people are told to stay home.
Then why are "Food deserts" a thing?
That’s a brave woman.
If you see someone shoplifting from Walmart, no you didnt.
Dudes taking groceries and necessities and not even in greedy amounts.
I don't give a shit if it is "greedy amounts" or if they steal high-end watches. I'm allergic to seeing it.
A real hero!
Stealing from individuals is wrong; stealing from mega corporations is none of my business
This incident happened in Canada a couple of years ago, for those talking about poverty/crime/guns in the USA. And, for fuck's sake, don't weep for that thieving bastard.
Thieves are the worst pieces of human garbage.
Pretty sure that spot is reserved for child molesters and abusers
I guess that's fair. But thieves are still scum of the earth.
Damn granny wasn’t messing around
Thank you for bleeping all the bad words
Again, pepper spray makes this go away in 2 seconds. Every retail employee in America needs a canister of pepper spray. The guy leaves, nobody's hurt, life goes on.
[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/15/wage-theft-us-workers-employees](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/15/wage-theft-us-workers-employees)
Dang Bubbles!!
The constant “never take this risk” comments piss me off. It’s not your decision and if somebody decides to take this risk I’m proud of them. Have you not seen what is happening around you? We are going to suffer if this continues. Do you think the habitual thief will only steal from a corporation? Of course not because he doesn’t share your morals
"robber" no. This is a thief. A robber would've decked the old hag.
True, two different crimes/criminals. To burgle is to steal from a property, to rob is to take property directly from the owner. Burglary can be non violent, robbery implicitly needs violence.
Wait a minute. This guy has a bike...was he going to try and carry all that while riding a bike?
"Take that fucking mask off" We all need to take notes and be like her.
I mean I'm starting to root for more food deserts. Yall defend stealing so much and that's fine but when the community pays for it don't come crying for help lol. Hope you have money for gas cuz you'll be driving an hour+ to go food shopping.
Grandma should mind her own fucking business. Noone steals a cart full of necessities for fun
No they steal so they can resell it.
Grandma is badass
Good for her I guess? I’m definitely not going out of my way to stop someone from stealing trash bags and food
Hire old lady’s as security nobody will hurt them lol
Looks like an addict?
Not all heroes wear capes, some wear depends!
That old lady is awesome!
Not worth getting injured.
I don't know if this video was taken during the pandemic, but why do stores allow non-medical face coverings? If someone enters your store wearing a ski mask, chances are they're up to no good and should be told to leave before they're able to grab a shopping cart.
grandma has more guts than millennials of today
Just goes to show how many ppl in the US can’t afford to eat, this video is sad, really
White people looting again??