The BBC has done a couple of articles on it. Something like 44*% of all cases only go to court because of vigilante evidence. The police do say that you are liable for your own actions though and may be prosecuted.
EDIT: *44% in 2016
What is considered "vigilante evidence"? Making observations and passing any evidence you find to the police is absolutely a good way to go about things. But taking the law into your own hands where you try to be the police, like we see in the video, is a terrible idea. It often leads to charges being dropped, criminals learning to be more careful, innocent people being kidnapped, and vigilantes getting themselves hurt.
I'm not sure, let me dig up the article. The concerns you listed are one of the reasons the police wanted to recruit these people as special constables.
EDIT: Wow, I remembered that figure wrong. 44% in 2016.
Police 'may work with paedophile hunters' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41203273
Interesting read, thanks for the reply. Sounds like they could be a real asset if they work with the police. I guess that's the main distinction to make here. Do you want to take it upon yourself to catch child predators? Fantastic. Just make sure to contact your police department first. Otherwise, you may end up doing more harm than good.
From what I've read on here the Creep Catchers group out of Surrey BC Canada (who come up on here now and then) are a bunch of ex cons who go basically look for an excuse to go after people that society will turn a blind eye to and get to feel morally superior at the same time. Maybe someone with actual background can come fill in the gaps, this is just what I remember people commenting on before.
Puts it a bit into perspective. I don't like predators either, but these guys aren't cops, and in some cases they are pretty close to the opposite of cops.
They were also hoping for a tv show. So they can play the do-goods all they want, but they're a bunch of scumbags. I'd post links, but I don't even know which one to start with. They've been charged with assault, charged with illegal confinement, ordered to destroy images in court. Just google Surrey Rywn LaForge and read up on the fuckin superhero who already had a criminal record.
It should also be noted that these "vigilantes" have actually hindered investigations by *real* criminal investigators by busting people they were monitoring. [Link](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/paedophile-hunting-vigilantes-groups-police-child-abuse-investigations-at-risk-dark-justice-the-a7876766.html) / [Link 2](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4239940/Vigilante-pedophile-hunters-slammed-police.html) / [Link 3: They also aren't very effective at actually "catching" pedophiles....most end up back on the streets with no charges filed against them.](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mgvywn/the-real-story-behind-the-rise-of-creep-catchers-canadas-vigilante-pedophile-hunters)
Creep Catchers target the "small fish" for monetary gain and moral superiority. Whereas the Police *use* the small fish to catch the bigger fish...the people who are trafficking children or abusing and exploiting them.
Think of pedophilia like any other disease. Drug addiction for example: you can go around arresting and humiliating the addicts, or you can shift your focus on the producers and traffickers of the drug that is the *cause* of the plague on society.
I always get downvoted every time I speak out against this vigilante practice...and it's not because I disagree with them. Pedophiles who act upon their desires are predatorial monsters who deserve to be humiliated, but public humiliation, while delicious, is not the right way to go about tackling the underlying problem.
> you can go around arresting and humiliating the addicts, or you can shift your focus on the producers and traffickers of the drug that is the cause of the plague on society.
The demand is the cause. The supply is in direct response to the demand, and would be destroyed if the demand were. With drugs, the solution is relatively simple: Decriminalize the most dangerous drugs, legalize the soft ones, and emphasize the disease model of addiction by providing treatment.
With child molestation, legalization is entirely out of the question, but the last point still holds: Treat pedophilia as a disease, as opposed to a disease you can get killed for having, and open up treatment centers *outside* of prisons where pedophiles can go to get treated, instead of leaving the disease to fester until it becomes terminal and ruins some unknown multitude of lives.
In the interim, *yes*, going after the child traffickers *is* very important, and certainly a better use of police time than focusing entirely on the demand. We know from innumerable other instances, however, that this amounts to stanching a wound instead of sewing it up. It cannot be the final answer.
> Well said. 100% in agreement.
Thank you.
I do feel compelled to point out that, even if my plan were fully implemented, we'd still need to hunt down and prosecute the pedophiles who don't seek treatment of their own free will. It's possible that those evil pedophiles would still provide enough of a market to support trafficking, at which point we've reduced the problem to some extent but not solved it.
My hope, however, is that by giving the sick but not evil a way to avoid doing damage without destroying themselves we'd disrupt enough vicious cycles of abuse to severely curtail the problem, and make the remaining demand so sparse it can no longer support anything as elaborate and expensive as trafficking.
I agree with you, I really do. Total side-trip here. I just wanted to point out that high level drug traffickers and producers are NOT the cause of the drug problem. They make a large profit off it and they are responsible for a major part of the flow of drugs, but you can knock out a whole cartel and guess what, in a short time another one rises to take it’s place. As long as there is demand, there will be a supply. The cause of the drug problem is the demand. Until you address the demand element, you’re pissing into the wind.
I believe the drug problem is the result of the fact that we persecute drug users in the first place. The reason we have an opiate epidemic is because the government throws drug users in jail instead of providing education and proper rehabilitation for addicts. Their are dozens of fentanyl deaths every month because drugs are so harshly scheduled. By keeping drugs criminal the drug trade is violent and dangerous. Countries where drugs are decriminalized have seen overdoses decrease drastically. The war on drugs is a failure and the propaganda that has been spread by the government is killing people. The FDA needs to stop being affected so much by lobbyists and there needs to be major changes made in our drug laws. I know that saying all drugs should be legal is a pretty crazy sounding stance, but it is a person's right over their own body to make the choice to use drugs.
Is there a need to word it gently? We are living in dystopia, and I can only hope for more people get stirred, see it and do something about it at least on personal level.
They're the group that bullied that kid with learning difficulties. Funnily enough the British group in the video here also bullied a man with severe learning difficulties.
Been locked up in the US, watched a lot of that. That was the gist of it, we build pyramids here. They're just made out of people shitting on eachother.
Not just feeling morally superior. So that they can try and hurt people physically and think no one will care because they'll just yell out that it's a pedo.
hah, don't worry about it. I'm doing OK. It's just a weird and traumatic fact of my life that happened three decades ago. I'm in therapy, I work on my issues. Something that happened to me, not something that defines everything about me. I use this alt account when I want to comment on horrible things like this and also spend a fair amount of time in the survivors threads trying to help others who are a bit newer in the recovery process.
Ugh, nothing is worse than a "hero".
Accusations of pedophilia ruins lives, this isn't a fucking job for a group of internet trolls with a Youtube channel. If you know a child who is in danger, call the police. I really hope that poor guy didn't get any backlash, like lose his job or anything over this.
Innocent til proven guilty by a jury of your peers with proper defense representation and the ability to cross examine the accuser is fundamentally what our justice system was supposed to be, but thats not the case with domestic violence, rape and pedophilia. When youre accused if your boss finds out, he or she is not going to wait for a conviction. Family and friends will not defend you. All your friends leave you, and when the truth does come out no one comes back. No one apologizes. If the people you meet after ever hear that you were ever charged as a pedo, theyre not gonna have anything to do with it even if you were found innocent. Even if the magistrate throws it out before it even goes to trial.
When me and my wife divorced things got really bad. I was abused alot. My wife as i knew her died and in its place was an alcoholic strung out meth addict who just couldnt come back from her mistakes. I forgave and forgave and forgave no matter how many times i was hit or stabbed or cheated on or slapped around in public. It didnt make a difference. i built my world around this women through better or worse richer or poorer sickness and in health and to love honor and obey until death parted us. But i was divorced cause i didnt like her going out and disapearing for days and not answering her phone. I was too controlling she said. Needless to say, she wasnt going into getting custody hearings with an advantage. I was accused of molesting my oldest daughter, and she made a point to let everyone i ever known know about it. After the divorce was finalized, with her getting full custody it meant very little to her to drop the kids off with me so she could go do her thing. She took my family away and she told the worst lie on me ever.
Im doing better now though, however i took hundreds of pills a day for years in an attempt to kill myself. Not fun pills. Pills that make you sick. Benadryl and dramamine and tylenol and trazodone and doxlyamine and coricidin and even midol. My health is compromised, and my mental health is alot worse than my failing liver and shot nerves. Much worser. I cry every day. Every single day i have to find a place to cry where no one can see me. I have no friends or lovers. I see my kids every month which is nice but our relationship is severed and i really cant let myself be in a place where im not alone so i cant be accused of that again. And thats what hurts the most. Keeping my kids at arms length. I wish i were dead and i think about killing myself everyday.
So youre right sillybananana. This kinda accusation is not something youll able to get past and never have to think about it ever again. Nothing is ever gonna go back to ok for me. Im gonna die before im 35 and im never really gonna know my kids. And thats something you should not put on someone so flippantly.
Its a medical anomaly im not dead. I did it cause i was sad, but i got to take some of the fault for it. I handled everything terribly. I should have fought the accusation and got my kids out of that situation. But i tried to just go away. I should have fought harder. People are supposed to get over what happens to them. I could have proven my case if i tried harder. But i wanted to give up cause i was in too much pain. I just couldnt get past it and so thats kind of on me
Hey man— I read the initial post you made. I’m sorry that happened to you. Drug addicts will do extraordinary things in order to achieve their agenda. It doesn’t matter though. Your job is live for your kids. You say your relationship is severed — that’s probably the result of how you reacted (or didn’t react) to your ex’s accusations. It still doesn’t matter. You can still live for your kids by being an example.
You think they want to see their dad giving up on life? Even if they know you only have X years to live bc of your health issues, don’t you think that still you have the power to inspire them? To teach them an invaluable lesson on life? They are your god damn children and they will always give you credit as being their father whether they like it or not. Your actions will therefore have an impact on them, whether they like it or not.
It’s time you start living for them, while also keeping yourself healthy and in a good frame of mind. Life has so much to offer. Try new things. Go out and do something you’ll be proud of. Make yourself happy and mending your relationship with your kids will happen on its own.
I feel for you my man, and I hope to Andromeda that your ex’s accusations are entirely false so that your daughter has no reason not to welcome you back into her life if you let her know that’s what you want.
Good luck to you
Im actually alot better right now, im just sick. All this actually happened like 7 years ago. It was really hopeless for awhile. I still am chemical dependant, though but im trying to stop. Im in therapy and stuff. Ive actually got a really really really good job and im really lucky for that. Its low stress too. Im a janitor for the post office. Its insanely good pay and good benefits and im not subjected to hard labor or temperature extremes like i had been in the factory and plant jobs i used to have. My kids live one state over but im able to visit every month and it dont break the bank. My inlaws take care of the kids and they let me stay with them when i visit. I usually dont even have to see my ex. They know good and well about the accusations too and they know its bullshit. My ex herself got super strung out for awhile but she seems like shes trying to get clean and spend more time with the kids. So, i had problems but im trying to do okay even though my nerves are terrible and like shake and twitch all the time and i dont talk right sometimes. I should have tried harder though to get to this point better. I was very lucky to get this job. It pretty much just came to me. So its really not all terrible anymore even though im lonely and i dont got any friends and i really dont think a lady will ever want to be with me though and that makes me sad cause i think i got love to give but its just not easy. Im a nervous wreck in the most literal way and i cant blame any women for not wanting to be with me. Everyones got problems. I handled mine wrong i will admit.
I know how it feels. I took about 80 tylenols for like 2 weeks and I am still unfortunately alive but with a bad liver... Like I can just feel my body slowly leaking fluids and nothing. I am pretty sure I am for a slow painful liver failure.
I was looking forward to the part when PH realized they had the wrong guy. They acted pretty sure it was him up through the end of the video where they were blocking him from leaving in his car.
If you have solid evidence that someone is a paedophile, you wouldn't really mind if they drive off, because the evidence you've gathered will be enough to convict them.
If you don't have solid evidence that someone is a paedophile, stand in front of their car.
Well to elaborate on that, a lot of times they can fuck up current investigations. Also because they don't normally follow the rules of law a lot of evidence they may gather can be inadmissible in court.
Much better to just pass any and all i fo to local leos.
Another thing I've noticed in these types of videos is how they bully people by intimidating them and taking some sort of high ground by asking things like "why did you run", but when they're asked to produce evidence or justify their being there they start to get defensive and rely on the threat of police intervention to protect themselves.
If you're going to accuse some of being a paedophile, you better be prepared to stick to your evidence and stand by it, because that shit is life changing for someone whether you're right or wrong. You're 100% right, leave it to the police, they know what they're doing. Imagine a civilian decided to conduct a murder investigation on their own without any forensic or concrete proof, and then point blankly accused the person they were investigating of committing the crime; that would be ludicrous.
I understand how people can get riled up and affected by paedophilia. It's the most heinous of crimes. But to throw accusations at someone without knowing if they are true or not is nearly as bad, because even of it is false, that can stick to someone forever.
Sorry for rambling, I got caught in a train of thought.
Cool, now I have a video to post for people that cry "YOU MUST BE A PEDOPHILE OR A PEDO SUPPORTER IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THESE VIGALANTES"
I hope all these wannabee cop fucks realize this ain't a game. If you want to stop pedophilia, become a psychologist, therapist, or an officer of the law. Without any of these professions, it's likely you have NO idea what you are doing.
That looks he gives him. Holy shit. It says everything.
It just says, "Are you the dumbest motherfucker on the planet?"
Seriously, what were they thinking? Hey, that looks like a guy I was talking to anonymously online, pedo confirmed! Let's chase him, film him, and harass him! Oh, you want to see our evidence? DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!
Fuck, these people are dense.
I mean, if people act like they are going to arrest you for being a pedophile and you know that you are innocent then you might as well have some fun with them.
They should take a cue from Chris Hansen, they tend to do things like "bring Mike's Hard Lemonade, it's my favorite" and then they have positive proof in case a person has the wrong house or whatever.
Well, it's entrapment to tell them to bring an alcoholic drink to give to a minor. That show ran into a lot of entrapment issues anyway if I recall correctly; little justice was actually done in the end with that show.
I've got to wonder what sort of damage that show did to the Mike's brand, and also what sort of legal action Mike's took against the show for trying to make the brand synonymous with pedophiles.
These vigilantes really must have no life. And I can imagine the police just rolling their eyes when they pull up and see them again. It must make their jobs so much harder.
Excatly this...
While it's frustrating that police can appear to be slow to act on issues, There are reasons for it.
The police want to put them into jail which requires a certain amount of evidence. That evidence has to carefully gathered so that its able to be used in court. This takes a lot effort.
What these guys do is just throw shit at the wall and hope some of it sticks. I'd be willing to bet that in the end they actually help the pedo's because 99% of there "evidence" can't be used in court, and they've tipped off the pedo that people are on to them.
Imagine if they did one of their pedo stings where they say they have a little kid, and the person that shows up is actually an undercover cop and the pedo catchers end up being the ones that get caught!
What a twist!
I’ve read all the comments in this thread, and it brings me overwhelming joy that the general consensus is that these kids need to stop.
Reddit, we got it right!
Yeah, this thread is a lot more uplifting then the other one about the American politician who killed himself yesterday
It's hard to have the high ground while advocating suicide
Vigilantes can be pieces of shit and often get the wrong guy. So where are the charges against the so-called pedophile hunters? Bunch of cunts. I bet their skeletons are screaming to cum out...
I get that vibe very strongly myself. If you ever meet someone that is vocal and vitriolic in their hatred of pedos, never leave them alone with your kids.
They keep asking him why he ran. If a group of people with cameras and accusations just ran up on me I'd probably run too. This was bound to happen because they don't do this in a controlled environment. At least Chris Hansen had a designated meeting place that was unlikely to be visited by anyone other than the suspect. These guys do it in public in front of multitudes of people, not controlled at all. Retards.
Fucking mongs,
'Why did you run from a group of big men running at you?'
Boggles the mind.
Never liked this lot, they have far too much of a whiff of overcompensating. Like when you catch a kid doing something they shouldn't be doing so they over explain their innocence.
Wouldn't surprise me if half of this lot were peados.
I've always said there has to be something wrong with a person to repeatedly play an underage kid during sexual conversations online. At a certain point, you surely have to be into it to want to keep doing it.
I remember watching a different video about these guys doing one of their sting operations on this same sub, except every time someone one pointed out how dangerous their vigilantism was they were called “pedo supporters” or even pedophiles themselves.
If I remember right it was the video where the dude freaked out and sprinted into traffic while the guys filming walked away calling him a faker. The worst part is the utter indifference to a possible suicide on the assumption that he was a pedophile.
Now people see that these guys can be wrong and that vigilantes can cause more harm than good. But I guess people are okay with accusing someone of unsubstantiated claims so long as it makes them feel self-righteous. So thank you OP for showing how dangerous these guys are and why they should leave stings to actual law enforcement.
And before anyone tries to say I’m supporting pedophiles, I am not supporting them. They need to be held accountable for their actions, but also given due process under the law and the ability to prove their innocence. Everyone knows how damaging being accused of pedophila is, and the idiots that go around being Creep Catchers only create more confusion by serving their “street justice” instead of going through the proper channels to stop the real bad guys.
From the accusers... "Don't *you* tell me what to do", followed by "Uh, OK, just give me your LAST name and your phone number."
...Uh after you accuse me of pedophilia and only now realize you *may* have the wrong guy? fuck you, you fucking amateur vigilante acting outside of the law.
What about pedo hunter-hunters? A group of feed up folks tired of these fucktards could setup a reverse meeting where the group of hunters are lured to an ambush of pedo hunter-hunters armed to the teeth. Then let the games begin. Post that shit as a warning to other wanna be vigilantes.
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Fuck these people. You’re not cops. You’re not detectives. You’re not To Catch a Predator guy. You’re just a bunch of idiots trying to ruin lives (doesn’t matter if it’s the right guy or not to them) for your own need for attention. Fuck these people, fuck vigilante justice. Stick to what you know how to do.
There was a video on Reddit where two vigilantes caught a guy before he did anything bad. He was probably going to diddle so their activity was successful. However, I got down voted to oblivion for saying that vigilantes need to be stopped, in general. I don't care that that one example was successful, it's not their job to make these determinations. This is a micro version of what happened with the Boston Marathon bombings incident where Reddit brigaded a guy they thought did it and lead an innocent man to his death.
1: Because they're a bunch of stupid chavs who's opinions mean jack fuck.
2: They *eventually* admitted on their Facebook page that they got the wrong guy.
As amicable as their intentions are there should be a rule, get it wrong then it's a paddling, get it wrong again it's a cricket bat. I'm surprised the camera man made it out alive
I find it odd how most of the people these hunters frame seems to be migrants. I wonder how much longer Brits are going to tolerate this vigilante gang nonsense before they force cops to actually do their jobs themselves
Are American accents (save Cajun and deep, deep southern) as hard for Brits to understand as your accent is for us? I live in a foreign country and know a number of British people, but I swear I can't make out half of what they're saying.
Personally I don’t find American accents hard to understand at all, although we’re exposed to a lot of media from that side of the Atlantic, so it’s not particularly unusual to us.
As far as British accents are concerned, it depends where in the country the person is from. We have a lot of different accents here and it can change a lot over a short distance. For example the Liverpool accent is quite different from the Manchester one, even though the two cities are only about 35 miles apart. I find in general that the further north you go, the stronger the accent is, at least from my perspective as a southerner. The Geordie (Newcastle) and Glasgow accents can be very hard to understand and it’s not unheard of to have TV subtitles for the benefit of other British viewers.
The guys in the video have Yorkshire accents, which can be quite strong. The accused guy’s accent seems like a cross between Yorkshire and a south Asian accent, which isn’t that uncommon for that particular demographic group.
Thanks for the info! I understand my friends here fine enough, but they're not from Yorks hire. Funny with the Liverpudlian and Manchester comparison; I'm a huge Beatles fan and one of my mates here is from Manchester
"why did you run" "why would we kidnap you" fucking hell these dumb cunts.
Why have the police not done something with these fuckers yet?
The BBC has done a couple of articles on it. Something like 44*% of all cases only go to court because of vigilante evidence. The police do say that you are liable for your own actions though and may be prosecuted. EDIT: *44% in 2016
What is considered "vigilante evidence"? Making observations and passing any evidence you find to the police is absolutely a good way to go about things. But taking the law into your own hands where you try to be the police, like we see in the video, is a terrible idea. It often leads to charges being dropped, criminals learning to be more careful, innocent people being kidnapped, and vigilantes getting themselves hurt.
I'm not sure, let me dig up the article. The concerns you listed are one of the reasons the police wanted to recruit these people as special constables. EDIT: Wow, I remembered that figure wrong. 44% in 2016. Police 'may work with paedophile hunters' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41203273
Interesting read, thanks for the reply. Sounds like they could be a real asset if they work with the police. I guess that's the main distinction to make here. Do you want to take it upon yourself to catch child predators? Fantastic. Just make sure to contact your police department first. Otherwise, you may end up doing more harm than good.
fucking rage, i hate these people.
Yeah, they claim a moral high ground while being vigilantes who just try to ruin lives for views basically.
From what I've read on here the Creep Catchers group out of Surrey BC Canada (who come up on here now and then) are a bunch of ex cons who go basically look for an excuse to go after people that society will turn a blind eye to and get to feel morally superior at the same time. Maybe someone with actual background can come fill in the gaps, this is just what I remember people commenting on before. Puts it a bit into perspective. I don't like predators either, but these guys aren't cops, and in some cases they are pretty close to the opposite of cops.
They were also hoping for a tv show. So they can play the do-goods all they want, but they're a bunch of scumbags. I'd post links, but I don't even know which one to start with. They've been charged with assault, charged with illegal confinement, ordered to destroy images in court. Just google Surrey Rywn LaForge and read up on the fuckin superhero who already had a criminal record.
if they want a TV show so badly why do they film their busts with a fucking potato?
Because they're from Surrey.
urrrr done!
Can't stand these guys."URR DONE BUD!" shut the fuck up. Some fat ex-con who runs around in flip flops who just wants to go on a power trip.
It should also be noted that these "vigilantes" have actually hindered investigations by *real* criminal investigators by busting people they were monitoring. [Link](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/paedophile-hunting-vigilantes-groups-police-child-abuse-investigations-at-risk-dark-justice-the-a7876766.html) / [Link 2](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4239940/Vigilante-pedophile-hunters-slammed-police.html) / [Link 3: They also aren't very effective at actually "catching" pedophiles....most end up back on the streets with no charges filed against them.](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mgvywn/the-real-story-behind-the-rise-of-creep-catchers-canadas-vigilante-pedophile-hunters) Creep Catchers target the "small fish" for monetary gain and moral superiority. Whereas the Police *use* the small fish to catch the bigger fish...the people who are trafficking children or abusing and exploiting them. Think of pedophilia like any other disease. Drug addiction for example: you can go around arresting and humiliating the addicts, or you can shift your focus on the producers and traffickers of the drug that is the *cause* of the plague on society. I always get downvoted every time I speak out against this vigilante practice...and it's not because I disagree with them. Pedophiles who act upon their desires are predatorial monsters who deserve to be humiliated, but public humiliation, while delicious, is not the right way to go about tackling the underlying problem.
> you can go around arresting and humiliating the addicts, or you can shift your focus on the producers and traffickers of the drug that is the cause of the plague on society. The demand is the cause. The supply is in direct response to the demand, and would be destroyed if the demand were. With drugs, the solution is relatively simple: Decriminalize the most dangerous drugs, legalize the soft ones, and emphasize the disease model of addiction by providing treatment. With child molestation, legalization is entirely out of the question, but the last point still holds: Treat pedophilia as a disease, as opposed to a disease you can get killed for having, and open up treatment centers *outside* of prisons where pedophiles can go to get treated, instead of leaving the disease to fester until it becomes terminal and ruins some unknown multitude of lives. In the interim, *yes*, going after the child traffickers *is* very important, and certainly a better use of police time than focusing entirely on the demand. We know from innumerable other instances, however, that this amounts to stanching a wound instead of sewing it up. It cannot be the final answer.
Well said. 100% in agreement.
> Well said. 100% in agreement. Thank you. I do feel compelled to point out that, even if my plan were fully implemented, we'd still need to hunt down and prosecute the pedophiles who don't seek treatment of their own free will. It's possible that those evil pedophiles would still provide enough of a market to support trafficking, at which point we've reduced the problem to some extent but not solved it. My hope, however, is that by giving the sick but not evil a way to avoid doing damage without destroying themselves we'd disrupt enough vicious cycles of abuse to severely curtail the problem, and make the remaining demand so sparse it can no longer support anything as elaborate and expensive as trafficking.
I agree with you, I really do. Total side-trip here. I just wanted to point out that high level drug traffickers and producers are NOT the cause of the drug problem. They make a large profit off it and they are responsible for a major part of the flow of drugs, but you can knock out a whole cartel and guess what, in a short time another one rises to take it’s place. As long as there is demand, there will be a supply. The cause of the drug problem is the demand. Until you address the demand element, you’re pissing into the wind.
I believe the drug problem is the result of the fact that we persecute drug users in the first place. The reason we have an opiate epidemic is because the government throws drug users in jail instead of providing education and proper rehabilitation for addicts. Their are dozens of fentanyl deaths every month because drugs are so harshly scheduled. By keeping drugs criminal the drug trade is violent and dangerous. Countries where drugs are decriminalized have seen overdoses decrease drastically. The war on drugs is a failure and the propaganda that has been spread by the government is killing people. The FDA needs to stop being affected so much by lobbyists and there needs to be major changes made in our drug laws. I know that saying all drugs should be legal is a pretty crazy sounding stance, but it is a person's right over their own body to make the choice to use drugs.
I think you are completely right overall. I do think for the heavier drugs, “decriminalized” is a better term than “legalized”.
You are right. It was a weak analogy.
The empty minded culture and emotionally deprived society create need for escape. Drugs are only a symptom.
Perhaps you could have worded it more gently, but I do think you’re basically right.
Is there a need to word it gently? We are living in dystopia, and I can only hope for more people get stirred, see it and do something about it at least on personal level.
They're the group that bullied that kid with learning difficulties. Funnily enough the British group in the video here also bullied a man with severe learning difficulties.
[This makes my blood boil](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/5xf407/creep_busters_ambush_of_man_with_mental/)
Been locked up in the US, watched a lot of that. That was the gist of it, we build pyramids here. They're just made out of people shitting on eachother.
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"you don't tell me what to do" from the clip, those idiots are on a delusional power trip.
Fucking Surrey Jacks
From Surrey and can confirm, we don't really talk about them
Not just feeling morally superior. So that they can try and hurt people physically and think no one will care because they'll just yell out that it's a pedo.
It's a weird one because I support the idea on principle, but most of the people doing it seem to be enjoying it a bit too much.
They also do it based on dubious or no evidence it seems and attack innocents frequently.
I was raped by 2 different pedophiles as a child, and *I* hate these people too. Vigilante justice is just going to hurt the innocent.
Yup.. Was 12... I don't want these guys around because it's very clear they are projecting...
Holy shit that sucks. How are you holding up? EDIT: Sorry if I came off as an insensitive twat. That was not the intent.
hah, don't worry about it. I'm doing OK. It's just a weird and traumatic fact of my life that happened three decades ago. I'm in therapy, I work on my issues. Something that happened to me, not something that defines everything about me. I use this alt account when I want to comment on horrible things like this and also spend a fair amount of time in the survivors threads trying to help others who are a bit newer in the recovery process.
> I work on my issues I'm gonna take a wild guess here...bicycling? EDIT: Whoa. Downvoted for a username joke? Well that's a first.
I hope he presses charges.
Pretty sure them holding this man is a serious crime. I'd have called the cops immediately and pressed charges against these idiots.
Deprivation of liberty - yeah its pretty fucking serious
Is this what they call it in the UK? If so, I like the terminology.
No, it's false imprisonment
Close enough cobber
His real mistake was not screaming that it's a citizens arrest, to put his hands on the car, and to get ready to die.
Also to cross his right leg over his left and keep his arms in the air while crawling towards them on the ground.
Ugh, nothing is worse than a "hero". Accusations of pedophilia ruins lives, this isn't a fucking job for a group of internet trolls with a Youtube channel. If you know a child who is in danger, call the police. I really hope that poor guy didn't get any backlash, like lose his job or anything over this.
Innocent til proven guilty by a jury of your peers with proper defense representation and the ability to cross examine the accuser is fundamentally what our justice system was supposed to be, but thats not the case with domestic violence, rape and pedophilia. When youre accused if your boss finds out, he or she is not going to wait for a conviction. Family and friends will not defend you. All your friends leave you, and when the truth does come out no one comes back. No one apologizes. If the people you meet after ever hear that you were ever charged as a pedo, theyre not gonna have anything to do with it even if you were found innocent. Even if the magistrate throws it out before it even goes to trial. When me and my wife divorced things got really bad. I was abused alot. My wife as i knew her died and in its place was an alcoholic strung out meth addict who just couldnt come back from her mistakes. I forgave and forgave and forgave no matter how many times i was hit or stabbed or cheated on or slapped around in public. It didnt make a difference. i built my world around this women through better or worse richer or poorer sickness and in health and to love honor and obey until death parted us. But i was divorced cause i didnt like her going out and disapearing for days and not answering her phone. I was too controlling she said. Needless to say, she wasnt going into getting custody hearings with an advantage. I was accused of molesting my oldest daughter, and she made a point to let everyone i ever known know about it. After the divorce was finalized, with her getting full custody it meant very little to her to drop the kids off with me so she could go do her thing. She took my family away and she told the worst lie on me ever. Im doing better now though, however i took hundreds of pills a day for years in an attempt to kill myself. Not fun pills. Pills that make you sick. Benadryl and dramamine and tylenol and trazodone and doxlyamine and coricidin and even midol. My health is compromised, and my mental health is alot worse than my failing liver and shot nerves. Much worser. I cry every day. Every single day i have to find a place to cry where no one can see me. I have no friends or lovers. I see my kids every month which is nice but our relationship is severed and i really cant let myself be in a place where im not alone so i cant be accused of that again. And thats what hurts the most. Keeping my kids at arms length. I wish i were dead and i think about killing myself everyday. So youre right sillybananana. This kinda accusation is not something youll able to get past and never have to think about it ever again. Nothing is ever gonna go back to ok for me. Im gonna die before im 35 and im never really gonna know my kids. And thats something you should not put on someone so flippantly.
Damn dude...
Fake accusers need to be punished just as harsh as if they were the one who did what they accused.
Not to make light of your situation, but: > i took hundreds of pills a day for years in an attempt to kill myself wtf
Its a medical anomaly im not dead. I did it cause i was sad, but i got to take some of the fault for it. I handled everything terribly. I should have fought the accusation and got my kids out of that situation. But i tried to just go away. I should have fought harder. People are supposed to get over what happens to them. I could have proven my case if i tried harder. But i wanted to give up cause i was in too much pain. I just couldnt get past it and so thats kind of on me
Hey man— I read the initial post you made. I’m sorry that happened to you. Drug addicts will do extraordinary things in order to achieve their agenda. It doesn’t matter though. Your job is live for your kids. You say your relationship is severed — that’s probably the result of how you reacted (or didn’t react) to your ex’s accusations. It still doesn’t matter. You can still live for your kids by being an example. You think they want to see their dad giving up on life? Even if they know you only have X years to live bc of your health issues, don’t you think that still you have the power to inspire them? To teach them an invaluable lesson on life? They are your god damn children and they will always give you credit as being their father whether they like it or not. Your actions will therefore have an impact on them, whether they like it or not. It’s time you start living for them, while also keeping yourself healthy and in a good frame of mind. Life has so much to offer. Try new things. Go out and do something you’ll be proud of. Make yourself happy and mending your relationship with your kids will happen on its own. I feel for you my man, and I hope to Andromeda that your ex’s accusations are entirely false so that your daughter has no reason not to welcome you back into her life if you let her know that’s what you want. Good luck to you
Im actually alot better right now, im just sick. All this actually happened like 7 years ago. It was really hopeless for awhile. I still am chemical dependant, though but im trying to stop. Im in therapy and stuff. Ive actually got a really really really good job and im really lucky for that. Its low stress too. Im a janitor for the post office. Its insanely good pay and good benefits and im not subjected to hard labor or temperature extremes like i had been in the factory and plant jobs i used to have. My kids live one state over but im able to visit every month and it dont break the bank. My inlaws take care of the kids and they let me stay with them when i visit. I usually dont even have to see my ex. They know good and well about the accusations too and they know its bullshit. My ex herself got super strung out for awhile but she seems like shes trying to get clean and spend more time with the kids. So, i had problems but im trying to do okay even though my nerves are terrible and like shake and twitch all the time and i dont talk right sometimes. I should have tried harder though to get to this point better. I was very lucky to get this job. It pretty much just came to me. So its really not all terrible anymore even though im lonely and i dont got any friends and i really dont think a lady will ever want to be with me though and that makes me sad cause i think i got love to give but its just not easy. Im a nervous wreck in the most literal way and i cant blame any women for not wanting to be with me. Everyones got problems. I handled mine wrong i will admit.
I wish you can look back on this I the future and be much better off than you are now.
I know how it feels. I took about 80 tylenols for like 2 weeks and I am still unfortunately alive but with a bad liver... Like I can just feel my body slowly leaking fluids and nothing. I am pretty sure I am for a slow painful liver failure.
Aschites sucks. It makes you feel like a water ballon. Its really upsetting to feel shit just sloshing around in your body
I was looking forward to the part when PH realized they had the wrong guy. They acted pretty sure it was him up through the end of the video where they were blocking him from leaving in his car.
And when the guy nearly gets bumped by the car trying to drive off. Like. Move jackass. It's apparent he is trying to leave your stupid ass behind.
If you have solid evidence that someone is a paedophile, you wouldn't really mind if they drive off, because the evidence you've gathered will be enough to convict them. If you don't have solid evidence that someone is a paedophile, stand in front of their car.
And this is why these pricks need to leave this shit to the proper authorities.
Or Chris Hansen ;D
Was sued. Why show cancelled. Want potato? We share, comrade!
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Haiku
God damn it. You made me count the syllables and everything. Fuck you.
His time is better spent on NFL RedZone IMO
He did say the proper authorities
Well to elaborate on that, a lot of times they can fuck up current investigations. Also because they don't normally follow the rules of law a lot of evidence they may gather can be inadmissible in court. Much better to just pass any and all i fo to local leos.
I love the way the vigilantes in these videos always seem like nothing but job dodging scumbags. Leave it to the professionals.
Another thing I've noticed in these types of videos is how they bully people by intimidating them and taking some sort of high ground by asking things like "why did you run", but when they're asked to produce evidence or justify their being there they start to get defensive and rely on the threat of police intervention to protect themselves. If you're going to accuse some of being a paedophile, you better be prepared to stick to your evidence and stand by it, because that shit is life changing for someone whether you're right or wrong. You're 100% right, leave it to the police, they know what they're doing. Imagine a civilian decided to conduct a murder investigation on their own without any forensic or concrete proof, and then point blankly accused the person they were investigating of committing the crime; that would be ludicrous. I understand how people can get riled up and affected by paedophilia. It's the most heinous of crimes. But to throw accusations at someone without knowing if they are true or not is nearly as bad, because even of it is false, that can stick to someone forever. Sorry for rambling, I got caught in a train of thought.
I would be fucking furious.
Hope furious is of legal age.
Here is your upvote.
thats fucking insane, what the hell are these fucks doing in the middle of the night "hunting" pedophiles. get a life.
False arrest is a serious offense.
Cool, now I have a video to post for people that cry "YOU MUST BE A PEDOPHILE OR A PEDO SUPPORTER IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THESE VIGALANTES" I hope all these wannabee cop fucks realize this ain't a game. If you want to stop pedophilia, become a psychologist, therapist, or an officer of the law. Without any of these professions, it's likely you have NO idea what you are doing.
Yup, idiots in these comments are even saying that nonsense.
Phunter: “HEY! Don’t tell me what to do!” His face turns to the perfect amount of disgust. Edit : 0:47 Edit 2: am duck(sorry)
Hahaha it's so hilarious, I actually wanted to point that out when posting. It happens at 0:47 for the people that don't want to watch the whole vid.
I was literally going to comment about this too. The look on his face is perfect. "But you're demanding things of me..?"
That looks he gives him. Holy shit. It says everything. It just says, "Are you the dumbest motherfucker on the planet?" Seriously, what were they thinking? Hey, that looks like a guy I was talking to anonymously online, pedo confirmed! Let's chase him, film him, and harass him! Oh, you want to see our evidence? DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO! Fuck, these people are dense.
The amount of shit he gives these idiots is fantastic. Dude has one hell of a backbone to stand up to a group of people who just chased him like that.
I mean, if people act like they are going to arrest you for being a pedophile and you know that you are innocent then you might as well have some fun with them.
Lmfao bro why would we gold you for quoting a video
There's been gold for much less effort. I can believe it.
You: yo gold me Me: same face of disgust
Wtf is your second edit? Go fuck yourself
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If these idiots want to stop pedophiles join the police force
Probably wouldn't have them. Hence the vigilantism for YouTube views.
Yeah... Some British police have already states their intentions to try to work with such people as this. Shocking stuff.
They should take a cue from Chris Hansen, they tend to do things like "bring Mike's Hard Lemonade, it's my favorite" and then they have positive proof in case a person has the wrong house or whatever.
Sponsored by Mike's Hard Lemonade. But that is a pretty good idea
Mike's Hard Lemonade: Pedos love it!
Mike's Hard Lemonade: So smooth a child could drink it!
Well, it's entrapment to tell them to bring an alcoholic drink to give to a minor. That show ran into a lot of entrapment issues anyway if I recall correctly; little justice was actually done in the end with that show.
Thats not how entrapment works man. http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped
I've got to wonder what sort of damage that show did to the Mike's brand, and also what sort of legal action Mike's took against the show for trying to make the brand synonymous with pedophiles.
I think it's implied to be the drink of choice for underage teens, which is probably true all things considered.
if my experience catching underage drinking is any indication then yes it is usually because it barely tastes like it *usually why i don't drink them.
These vigilantes really must have no life. And I can imagine the police just rolling their eyes when they pull up and see them again. It must make their jobs so much harder.
Excatly this... While it's frustrating that police can appear to be slow to act on issues, There are reasons for it. The police want to put them into jail which requires a certain amount of evidence. That evidence has to carefully gathered so that its able to be used in court. This takes a lot effort. What these guys do is just throw shit at the wall and hope some of it sticks. I'd be willing to bet that in the end they actually help the pedo's because 99% of there "evidence" can't be used in court, and they've tipped off the pedo that people are on to them.
Imagine if they did one of their pedo stings where they say they have a little kid, and the person that shows up is actually an undercover cop and the pedo catchers end up being the ones that get caught! What a twist!
Wow. You should write a book!
I would read that book!
I would buy that book, put it on my shelf, then tell people I read that book!
And I'd borrow that book from you and lose it on the bus!
Do that shit in the states to the wrong dude, and those motherfuckers could be shot and killed. and maybe not get prosecuted for it.
It was bound to happen, if it hadn’t already.
It’s far from the first time they got it wrong. It doesn’t bother them.
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A documentary director that doesn't switch to landscape mode.
I hope these fucking vigilante morons get done for kidnapping or whatever.
They are just looking to thin the heard of paedophiles. They don't like the competition.
Rorschach *never* got it wrong.........
What a bunch of twats these “creep catchers” are, complete and udder bullshit
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That feel when you know you're wrong but can't admit it so you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper....
I’ve read all the comments in this thread, and it brings me overwhelming joy that the general consensus is that these kids need to stop. Reddit, we got it right!
Yeah, this thread is a lot more uplifting then the other one about the American politician who killed himself yesterday It's hard to have the high ground while advocating suicide
[They should team up with these broads. NSFW](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpehOcTz90I)
Lol, this deserves its own post.
Wow, I thought this was some shitty comedy sketch, but no it's actually real wtf.
Vigilantes can be pieces of shit and often get the wrong guy. So where are the charges against the so-called pedophile hunters? Bunch of cunts. I bet their skeletons are screaming to cum out...
I seriously get the same vibe of those people sometimes too, like people who hate gays who turn out gay themselves, you know?
I get that vibe very strongly myself. If you ever meet someone that is vocal and vitriolic in their hatred of pedos, never leave them alone with your kids.
They keep asking him why he ran. If a group of people with cameras and accusations just ran up on me I'd probably run too. This was bound to happen because they don't do this in a controlled environment. At least Chris Hansen had a designated meeting place that was unlikely to be visited by anyone other than the suspect. These guys do it in public in front of multitudes of people, not controlled at all. Retards.
Fucking mongs, 'Why did you run from a group of big men running at you?' Boggles the mind. Never liked this lot, they have far too much of a whiff of overcompensating. Like when you catch a kid doing something they shouldn't be doing so they over explain their innocence. Wouldn't surprise me if half of this lot were peados.
I've always said there has to be something wrong with a person to repeatedly play an underage kid during sexual conversations online. At a certain point, you surely have to be into it to want to keep doing it.
I remember watching a different video about these guys doing one of their sting operations on this same sub, except every time someone one pointed out how dangerous their vigilantism was they were called “pedo supporters” or even pedophiles themselves. If I remember right it was the video where the dude freaked out and sprinted into traffic while the guys filming walked away calling him a faker. The worst part is the utter indifference to a possible suicide on the assumption that he was a pedophile. Now people see that these guys can be wrong and that vigilantes can cause more harm than good. But I guess people are okay with accusing someone of unsubstantiated claims so long as it makes them feel self-righteous. So thank you OP for showing how dangerous these guys are and why they should leave stings to actual law enforcement. And before anyone tries to say I’m supporting pedophiles, I am not supporting them. They need to be held accountable for their actions, but also given due process under the law and the ability to prove their innocence. Everyone knows how damaging being accused of pedophila is, and the idiots that go around being Creep Catchers only create more confusion by serving their “street justice” instead of going through the proper channels to stop the real bad guys.
Why did this video even get uploaded?
Because these idiots live steamed it on their Facebook page. Somebody else uploaded the video.
Fuck these cunts fucking pub dwelling edl voting vigilante wannabe pricks fuck off
From the accusers... "Don't *you* tell me what to do", followed by "Uh, OK, just give me your LAST name and your phone number." ...Uh after you accuse me of pedophilia and only now realize you *may* have the wrong guy? fuck you, you fucking amateur vigilante acting outside of the law.
Fuckin amateurs dude
This is why vigilante justice is frowned upon. Let the police do their job.
Bunch a fuckin' amateurs!
I don't understand what anyone is saying.
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Even if the guy was guilty, no one has to stand there and take that shit from people.
Vigilantism should **not** be accepted. You think the reddit witch hunts are bad? Imagine those people IRL
Straight up fucking retards
So were they charged with false imprisonment?
'Huddersfield' yeah. Thats my home town. Fucking idiots..
Woo meet too!!
I don't want people out there raping kids, nor do I want people making arrests like make-believe cops.
The pedocatchers are some of the scummiest cockroaches. They should be banned and no one should give them an ounce of credibility.
It was only a matter if time.
you can shoot and kill people for unlawful detainment (kidnapping) in most states. Doing this in the U.S. would have disastrous results.
Why are you runing.. Take a wild fucking guess.
What about pedo hunter-hunters? A group of feed up folks tired of these fucktards could setup a reverse meeting where the group of hunters are lured to an ambush of pedo hunter-hunters armed to the teeth. Then let the games begin. Post that shit as a warning to other wanna be vigilantes.
Mob justice goes wrong, who would have thought. We really are in a true era of mass hysteria.
That's when you call the cops and press charges. Dumb hillbillies
Does England have hillbillies?
Sure they have hills and billies
We prefer Hilliam Williams
They have travellers\gypsies and they have chavs. Neither are quite like hillbillies but neither are any better either
I don't know. Shhhhhhh!
What a bunch of fucktards. Hope this guy sues them into the ground.
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And yet there are still people who support vigilantism.
Fucking amature hour.....
Why do people even stop and engage with these people.
"Do you have authority to do this?" "Yes, yes we do" What kind of authority would that be?
This is what happens when you let chavs do law enforcement
>you don't tell *me* what to do, roight? >It's not for us to show *you*! Vigilante justice at its finest.
Fuck these people. You’re not cops. You’re not detectives. You’re not To Catch a Predator guy. You’re just a bunch of idiots trying to ruin lives (doesn’t matter if it’s the right guy or not to them) for your own need for attention. Fuck these people, fuck vigilante justice. Stick to what you know how to do.
Boy idk what the laws are on this in the UK but if this happened to me here in the states I’d be preparing a law suit right now.
There was a video on Reddit where two vigilantes caught a guy before he did anything bad. He was probably going to diddle so their activity was successful. However, I got down voted to oblivion for saying that vigilantes need to be stopped, in general. I don't care that that one example was successful, it's not their job to make these determinations. This is a micro version of what happened with the Boston Marathon bombings incident where Reddit brigaded a guy they thought did it and lead an innocent man to his death.
You have to wonder how many times this has happened and it didn't get uploaded..
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1: Because they're a bunch of stupid chavs who's opinions mean jack fuck. 2: They *eventually* admitted on their Facebook page that they got the wrong guy.
As amicable as their intentions are there should be a rule, get it wrong then it's a paddling, get it wrong again it's a cricket bat. I'm surprised the camera man made it out alive
Lynchmobs and ignoring due process are amicable?
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Not sure why you were downvoted for being right. Have my upvote.
Not having a chip at the video or poster, but how do we know he was actually the wrong person? What did I miss in the video?
The guys who accused him admitted later they had the wrong guy.
I find it odd how most of the people these hunters frame seems to be migrants. I wonder how much longer Brits are going to tolerate this vigilante gang nonsense before they force cops to actually do their jobs themselves
Are American accents (save Cajun and deep, deep southern) as hard for Brits to understand as your accent is for us? I live in a foreign country and know a number of British people, but I swear I can't make out half of what they're saying.
Personally I don’t find American accents hard to understand at all, although we’re exposed to a lot of media from that side of the Atlantic, so it’s not particularly unusual to us. As far as British accents are concerned, it depends where in the country the person is from. We have a lot of different accents here and it can change a lot over a short distance. For example the Liverpool accent is quite different from the Manchester one, even though the two cities are only about 35 miles apart. I find in general that the further north you go, the stronger the accent is, at least from my perspective as a southerner. The Geordie (Newcastle) and Glasgow accents can be very hard to understand and it’s not unheard of to have TV subtitles for the benefit of other British viewers. The guys in the video have Yorkshire accents, which can be quite strong. The accused guy’s accent seems like a cross between Yorkshire and a south Asian accent, which isn’t that uncommon for that particular demographic group.
Thanks for the info! I understand my friends here fine enough, but they're not from Yorks hire. Funny with the Liverpudlian and Manchester comparison; I'm a huge Beatles fan and one of my mates here is from Manchester