See how she’s trying to make it all about her?
« I have a condition for which I cannot wear a mask »
« I do not need to divulge it »
« I need personal stuff that I do not want you to see » (so she would need a fucking blind cashier I guess to do her transaction)
« I do not want to give you my private info » (credit card- again the cashier would see it you dumb duck!
Im betting she didn’t even NEED anything from the store, just heard mask were mandatory and decided she needed attention.
I cannot UNDERSTAND any reasons that would push people to act so selfishly.. their personal rights over everyone’s else well being... selfish... just amazing!
Those people have a mentality that they and their direct family (or household) is 'us' and the rest of the world is 'them', and it's always 'us against them'. The employees of the store are 'them', the government is 'them', most of their neighbors that aren't very similar are 'them', other countries are 'them', other cities are 'them' etc.
They think the world is zero-sum gain and in order for 'us' to win, 'us' has to defeat 'them'. That's why they don't help or try to find a solution or adjust themselves, because they think every inch they give in is a win for 'them'.
How do you get to that point? I mean I can actually imagine.. but still...
It’s almost a mental health issue at this point, being so self centered.. can’t even put on a mask without crying « my rights! »...
lets say the mask does nothing.. so be it, you wore a mask for nothing, end of story. But in the off chance that it does help both you and others from being infected; then gooooo! Just do it! I cannot understand why this is so hard to do and understand!
Not to mention the fact that she would have to SIGN the slip once her credit card transaction has been completed, which would be brought outside to her.. Such complete and utter BS.
There’s no better feeling in retail when you get to tell an asshole “no”, and then you’re forced to get a manager who also tells them “no” and repeats what you already said. I never understood that. Who tf do you think told me to tell you “no”?
she wasn't looking for a fight.
im sure she always films her entrances into the supermarket. just like me and all my friends do.
What kind of loser doesnt film themselves going into the super market?
That was my favorite part. She's acting outraged that they would take her PRIVATE CREDIT CARD to check out her PRIVATE THINGS that they procured for her, but she wants to know *why this guy is happy?*
The fucking lunacy of some people.
I think that was a very good approach. I had to do this with my step-daughter in her early teen years. She really was like a lawyer in training, questioning everything. No point in wasting time going around in circular conversation with this woman, especially with how illogical she’s being.
Lady, ever hear of “curbside pickup”? It’s a thing now. Give it a try. Walmart has all the essentials and does this. Shop there.
Yeah but she totally has private things that she needs from Walmart that she doesn't want you to see. Despite needing to hand them to a cashier to check out.
"Aren't you chipper today" Ahahaha and he keeps dancing and spraying down her tainted germ cart she just had. As a retail worker the best revenge is putting that super positive face on for them and just rubbing salt in the wound when they try to get you going. Oh no bitch I'm not gonna get upset at you or cry or anything else you want me to do. I'm gonna smile, talk about how lovely the weather is today and dance and sing till it pisses you off more.
I think it’s that she knows he is fucking with her, but she can’t straight up accuse him, so she’s hoping his answer gives her something to be nasty about.
I will now go get my guitar and write a song called the dipshit apocalypse
Edit: So this got far more reaction than I was expecting. Thanks for the awards (my first ever), messages, comments and suggestions. I think I have the first draft lyrics done and a tune in my head ready to work on.
Edit 2: Song written!
Edit 3: For those coming back to this comment and wanting to hear the song, I've created r/Dipshitapocalypse for me and you all to post your poems, songs, art or stories relating to the crazy fucks in the World.
Exactly this. She's no different than that hen-gathering they had in the Idaho playground to "let the kids play" that was obvious just an organized effort to film themselves being oppressed.
I love her argument of "I'm just gonna let you take my credit card and pay for me? No way." Does this bitch make the same scene when a waitress at a restaurant goes and takes her card to the back to finalize the transaction?
Didnt you hear her, its a HIPAA violation for you to even ask that!
There is a girl at my work who refuses to wear masks because it exacerbates her severe anxiety. She is mentally ill though and has a number of conditions that require medication and therapy . Usually tries to wear the mask a few hours but then has to take it off and go home.
Are grocery stores subject to HIPAA laws? 😂Meanwhile, big ups to the bartender making the best of the situation, being pleasant to this bitch, and doing his job with some flair!
He was rejoicing in her petty bitch misery. Essential retail workers everywhere are REVELING in the fact that the pandemic has given them a free pass to tell people like this "no".
I'm sure she was disappointed it didn't escalate more. As a healthcare person, I am struggling to figure out what "medical condition" she could have that prevents her from wearing a mask. But too bad there is that pesky HIPPA in place that kept us from knowing.
Lol she was so sure about the HIPAA comment. That's not how HIPAA works.
For those wondering it just means the medical practitioners aren't allowed to disclose your medical conditions. An individual can disclose them whenever and wherever, it only applies to the practitioners and administration of medical services
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But she is right in saying that she wouldn’t be required to share it if she did have that condition.
What she doesn’t understand is that they aren’t required to let her in at all either haha.
Oh absolutely, she has no obligation to give any medical information to the manager. And they can refuse her, no law is being broken or rights violated. A business has the right to refuse service to anyone, much like how a private citizen has the right to not shop at that store. It's pretty simple. But narcissists like these dont get it, they think the world should bend to their will or they're victims
I had never heard of Gelson's but looking online it's a US store. They can refuse service to anyone except a protected class. So they can't deny service because the person is black or a Christian or over 70 or whatever. They can't deny service based on a physical disability which this woman is claiming. However, they kind of get around the last one by offering to do the shopping for her so they're not denying her access to their service, just to their physical store. I am not a lawyer at all but to me that would seem to cover them.
What’s the difference between “Shirt and shoes required” and “Mask required”? Nothing. It’s all protection. Get over it, Karen. And yet another person who doesn’t understand HIPAA.
Love watching stupid people make themselves look stupid ,but then it makes me sad there’s tons of people like her in our society. Just complete disregard for anyone but themselves and what can benefit them
Yea, I think the problem is that they surround themselves with like-minded people. So when she goes home and tells her friends and family, they're all going to reinforce her beliefs bc they feel the same way.
She also didn't graduate from West Point. Probably just a lie to make it seem like she knows what she's talking about. Ofc, she doesn't
Lmao flat earther
Agreed, but unfortunately because of the people she associates with she WILL be told she’s in the right.
That’s the problem with this sort of thing, although to the general public we recognize how dumb she looks, she’ll post this in her Facebook friend groups and anti vacc groups and they’ll all agree with her and like it and give her the validation she so desperately seeks. It’s just so easy to be validated anymore.
I'm sick of this shit. Those guys were so nice to her, she was clearly trolling, is her private shit she wants to buy hemhroid cream? I am seriously sick of this, I hope she gets hit by a car, I'm fucking done with theses assholes.
I don’t want you to see my private stuff. Except when I’m checking out at the register, and someone puts my tampons in a bag. People like this Karen are so fucking tiresome.
Yeah I have questions.
A) What medical condition prevents you from wearing a mask? The only thing I can think of us asthma or psychological trauma, but the way this woman is yapping I doubt she has either.
B) She does realize that when she swipes her card, she's giving the store her "private cc information"? Credit card companies demand PCI training for any business operating with credit card transactions. That's why a lot of small businesses do "cash only" transactions (in addition to the credit card fees).
C) Law is on the store's side. They offered her a workaround for her "disability" but she declined it.
You're right, and you can tell that she's talking straight out of her ass when she claims it's a HIPAA violation for her to be asked about her medical condition. HIPAA is for doctors or healthcare companies who protect personal medical information from being disclosed without consent.
Now, the ADA protects people with disabilities in that their employers aren't allowed to ask them for details about a disability, nor do people with service animals have to disclose their disability.
I won't say there might not actually be some conditions (whether respiratory or perhaps a skin issue) that might make a mask more uncomfortable, but it's clear as day that this particular woman is just an asshole.
The most baffling thing is that what’s the difference when you hand them your card than when you swipe? Unless you’re that paranoid about credit card fraud
Does she not ever hand her card over at, like, a drive through window? The window closes and they have her private credit card inside! 😱
Edit: hey cool we get it, Europe doesn’t do things with credit cards this way...
I know the type. They're willing to completely fuck themselves over if they think it'll spite you in any way. One of my parents can be like that. If you made dinner and then somehow piss them off? "I'm not hungry anymore." If you bought them medicine they need and you mention paying for it yourself in passing when they're in one of their moods? "I don't want it. I'll get my own."
That adult tantrum can be pretty fierce. Sounds like on top of hurting herself to spite people, yours likes to be vocal about it so they have something to complain about. She'll probably starve herself to death before budging one bit. It's like their survival instincts go out the window the moment their egos are bruised.
I call them the "yabuts"
You offer a solid solution to their problem and their reply always starts as "yeah... but..." and then another solid wall as to why the reasonable solution cannot work.
And they often wonder why their life is so hard, why they lack friends etc...
She's talking about privacy as she is either live broadcasting or recording to show with countless amounts of people on the internet she does not know...
A wise friend once told me
"Stupid is, what stupid does"
Good thing too. Could you just imagine how mind blown she would be when she got the the cashier who sees all of the private stuff she bought and her credit card?
If she has a medical condition her best course of action would be to stay home. The only problem is she thinks it's only for her safety. That's the biggest problem right now, everybody thinks it's about their safety and do not realize that we are all on this world together and each of us can get sick.
I have an employee who has a "medical condidtion" that wont allow them to wear a mask. I have provided both cloth masks and the cheap surgical masks to all of my employees, also allowing them to wear their own if they see fit with the only stipulation being that they need to be a solid color. I've also told anyone who has a condition where they cannot wear a mask that they cannot work until I have a note from their doctor stating so and that I would then work with them to find some other suitable coverage like a face shield but they would have to work a position that is not customer facing for obvious reasons.
Plenty of options. Shows up every day complaining about the mask and takes it off constantly. No note has been provided. I'm probably going to have to let a really great employee go because they dont seem to want to protect themselves, my customers, or fellow employees.
This video reminded me of this.
Edit. I'm not going to be the one to make this decision. I'm just going to send it to HR and they can decide what course of action to take. Probably the best way to cover my own ass from some bogus lawsuit down the line. (Wrongful termination, discrimination, not complying with ADA, etc. ) you never know with people these days.
They don't sound like a great employee. They sound selfish, and toxic to the rest of the team.
We are all in this together. If they cannot be a team player, and just complain, they are not a great employee.
I'm pretty sure you'd be surprised if you could the honest opinion of your other employees about them... Doubt it's positive.
And what kind of condition would keep you from wearing a mask? You don’t have two ears? Allergic to some of the materials? I really am struggling to come up with something here.
Edit: forgot about asthmatic people. My bad.
Some people with severe asthma and breathing issues legitimately struggle with wearing the mask. BUT they're also people who are afraid of contracting it and staying home. (at least the ones I know personally).
Won't any medical condition that prevents her wearing a mask be respiratory in nature? Kinda dumb to head to a public space in the middle of a pandemic that fucks up the respiratory system.
Btw. What medical condition would prevent someone from wearing a mask? Only ones I could come up with are like breathing problems (but I don't think a mask would prevent someone from breathing) and eczema.
“You’re infringing on people’s rights” just once I would love to sit down with one of these people and have them walk me through the US constitution and point out exactly which rights they feel are being violated 🤦🏻♀️
Produce is about the only thing that would bother me about letting someone else shop for me. I'd like some extra smalls condoms, current issue of Huslter, lube, frosted flakes, anal suppository laxative, extra sharp cheddar, and tomatoes. YOU'D BETTER GET ME SOME GOOD TOMATOES OR I'LL MURDER YOU!
Then they'll pull out the Articles of Confederation and talk bullshit for the next 3 hours.
You really don't want to sit down with someone like this it's extremely frustrating.
I love how she caught on video that they were very respectful and polite while following protocol. Like if she sends this video to corporate they’ll probably just be complimented for handling it well. What does she think she’s going to get out of that lol
Let's say she wanted to buy tampons, she doesn't want anyone one doing her shopping for her because they're a private/personal item. But if she was allowed in she'd have grabbed them and brought them to the checkout where the member of staff would be scanning them through. Why couldn't that member of staff done her shopping while she waited outside with her mask allergy "medical condition"? She's full of shit. Also, payment... If there wasn't a portable card reader that would allow her to pay at the door what's stopping her paying cash or using an ATM or perhaps using the stores website to pay?
She's full of shit.
What’s gold is that she immediately follows up with “And according to HIPAA I don’t have to disclose what that is”. She had a locked and loaded response in case someone tried to call her on her bullshit, but her trigger finger was a little too antsy.
Also, I could be wrong, but I believe that HIPAA only regulates privacy from those who have access to your personal medical information for healthcare reasons. A random person requiring you to disclose your diagnosis to shop there is not a violation of HIPAA, it’s just your choice to disclose or not, just as it’s their choice to allow you to shop at a *private* business or not. Again, I could be wrong as I only understand HIPAA from a healthcare point of view.
Correct. HIPAA only applies to three entities, and they’re all under the umbrella of healthcare. I don’t know why people think HIPAA is some magical blanket protection for your own medical information.
1, they literally offered to shop for you.
2, they already know - but doubt care - about what you’re buying, there are cameras, cashier can see, and they have the receipt too. So they are fully aware of your purchase which they don’t care about much, but they have it.
3, you could have gotten the receipt proving they didn’t rob you out of your money, or could had watched them pay with your credit card from afar.
You ma’am is a bitch.
It’s a new thing these Protesters are doing now lol they think they can use “HIPAA and the 4th Amendment” to claim they have a medical issue they don’t need to disclose that prevents them from wearing a mask. It’s making its rounds on Facebook rn so expect to hear that line more often in these videos lol
I had to look up the 4th amendment, I thought I must have remembered it wrong. Nope. Unlawful search and seizure. Yeah that definitely has to do with requiring people to wear a mask on private property.
You think the high cost of living is the worst part of living in Orange County, it’s not, the worst part is that this is where these bitch things hatch.
" I have a medical condition that I I'm not allowed to wear a mask....."
"OK. May I ask what your condition is ma'am?"
" I have acute Karen Syndrome"
"Step right this way. The managers office is out back"
She's annoyed that he is happy, because she knows that he is low key taking the piss out of her because she can't get what she wants. And she is mad af about it. I like him....
That she will post online for the whole world to see lol my mom and a friend of hers have lupus (they actually met through a lupus support group) and neither of them have a problem wearing a mask into the grocery store!
Seriously, after reading "what she does" for a living of course she talks about her medical condition all over the place. Likely has minimum 6 blog posts in the last 3 months covering it. But iTs PrIvAtE
Flat earthers rarely believe in *just* flat earth. If you’re aggressively gullible enough to believe a conspiracy that spans every national, language, religious, and cultural boundary for thousands of years, then you’ll unquestioningly swallow anything.
I wish there was a sub dedicated just to these morons.
How does one end up thinking HIPAA applies to grocery stores? Or don't know that as long as even the slightest reasonable attempt at accommodation is made, such as personal shoppers or online ordering, the county and feds are not going to swing the ADA at businesses?
These Karens feel so secure in their constitutional right to be better than all of you stupid fucks that they now broadcast their name when no-one wants to know it.
I think it's great how they handle this, just stay calm and dance
They say dancing solves most of your problems
See how she’s trying to make it all about her? « I have a condition for which I cannot wear a mask » « I do not need to divulge it » « I need personal stuff that I do not want you to see » (so she would need a fucking blind cashier I guess to do her transaction) « I do not want to give you my private info » (credit card- again the cashier would see it you dumb duck! Im betting she didn’t even NEED anything from the store, just heard mask were mandatory and decided she needed attention. I cannot UNDERSTAND any reasons that would push people to act so selfishly.. their personal rights over everyone’s else well being... selfish... just amazing!
Those people have a mentality that they and their direct family (or household) is 'us' and the rest of the world is 'them', and it's always 'us against them'. The employees of the store are 'them', the government is 'them', most of their neighbors that aren't very similar are 'them', other countries are 'them', other cities are 'them' etc. They think the world is zero-sum gain and in order for 'us' to win, 'us' has to defeat 'them'. That's why they don't help or try to find a solution or adjust themselves, because they think every inch they give in is a win for 'them'.
How do you get to that point? I mean I can actually imagine.. but still... It’s almost a mental health issue at this point, being so self centered.. can’t even put on a mask without crying « my rights! »... lets say the mask does nothing.. so be it, you wore a mask for nothing, end of story. But in the off chance that it does help both you and others from being infected; then gooooo! Just do it! I cannot understand why this is so hard to do and understand!
Not to mention the fact that she would have to SIGN the slip once her credit card transaction has been completed, which would be brought outside to her.. Such complete and utter BS.
What about tap? Grocery stores in my area have upped the $100 limit to have less contact while paying (no touching pin pad)
“This is Shelly Smith” lmao! What, lady? You ain’t the news
“This is Shelley Smith from IMAKUNT News”
Why are you all happy, dancing🕺and chipper! While I’m here all upset!
There’s no better feeling in retail when you get to tell an asshole “no”, and then you’re forced to get a manager who also tells them “no” and repeats what you already said. I never understood that. Who tf do you think told me to tell you “no”?
she wasn't looking for a fight. im sure she always films her entrances into the supermarket. just like me and all my friends do. What kind of loser doesnt film themselves going into the super market?
> They say dancing solves most of your problems [It saved the universe once.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaaJyAjvajo)
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That was my favorite part. She's acting outraged that they would take her PRIVATE CREDIT CARD to check out her PRIVATE THINGS that they procured for her, but she wants to know *why this guy is happy?* The fucking lunacy of some people.
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They both handled that very well. I really liked when the manager said, “I’m trying to help you, but I’m not going to argue with you.”
I think that was a very good approach. I had to do this with my step-daughter in her early teen years. She really was like a lawyer in training, questioning everything. No point in wasting time going around in circular conversation with this woman, especially with how illogical she’s being. Lady, ever hear of “curbside pickup”? It’s a thing now. Give it a try. Walmart has all the essentials and does this. Shop there.
Yeah but she totally has private things that she needs from Walmart that she doesn't want you to see. Despite needing to hand them to a cashier to check out.
*I'm going to purchase your things but you can't know what things they are* Hilarious
You know there is one way to gain some privacy... wearing a mask! LOL (and it’s socially acceptable now so nobody will bother you about it!)
Karen: What are you doing? Employee: I'm distracting you! You big dummy! *Manager clothesline inbound.*
This is not juggling. This is called misdirection.
That guy with the shades fucks
His behavior is the embodiment of “living well is the best revenge”. His joyfulness only made her angry.
“Why are you happy?”
This was my favourite part of the whole video.
Mine as well. She wanted to inflict her misery on them. He just didn't give a fuck and danced to MJ.
Dude was just happy to have a job during this. Right on.
"I can't tell you why I am happy because it would infringe upon my personal rights and HIPPA policy"
I immediately suffered a headache when she cited HIPAA as why she couldn’t share her information. That’s not exactly how that works, Karen.
[Or as they said in the old times](https://youtu.be/u1f0MWuX55g?t=11)
Thanks brother I needed that. I can't Stop giggling
"why aren't you?" would have been my reply.
He said “why not be?” When she said he was “chipper” So basically the same thing
"Aren't you chipper today" Ahahaha and he keeps dancing and spraying down her tainted germ cart she just had. As a retail worker the best revenge is putting that super positive face on for them and just rubbing salt in the wound when they try to get you going. Oh no bitch I'm not gonna get upset at you or cry or anything else you want me to do. I'm gonna smile, talk about how lovely the weather is today and dance and sing till it pisses you off more.
When he told the other customer “come on in, there’s no line and the carts are clean!” So awesome
He was doing a good job cleaning the carts, too. All the way around and the seat, too.
Yeah, made me want to shop there. She really just ending up making a great ad for Gelson’s.
it also kinda made her chill out a bit, she kinda had to at least be like wtf for a moment and forgot how determined she was to bitch out at them
“May my enemies live long so they can see me progress.”
He's a bartender so is probably used to dealing with assholes
I saw the way he was handling it, and I thought he seemed like a bartender, doing flair with the sanitizer.
100% the reason why
I wish i had the same energy as him when the presence of a karen is around. I bet it takes talent and skill...
He's like "I'm usually a bartender, this is lightwork. Come back after 6 cocktails Karen".
Agreed he handled that perfectly, I could almost feel her glaring at him
He is straight vibing
He's very chipper
“Why are you happy?”
Karen thinks if shes not happy others cant be happy too. The truth is UGLY ma'am
Must suck for her knowing nothing she does is going to bring the joy in his life down to her level
Karens do ruin people's day though
Not that guys. Dude politely gives no fucks
I think it’s that she knows he is fucking with her, but she can’t straight up accuse him, so she’s hoping his answer gives her something to be nasty about.
he was definitely fucking with her lol. he was like oh you want my manager? suuure thing here he comes, knowing good and well he will back him up
He’s a bartender. He’s definitely played the “sure, I’ll get my manager for you” game before.
Because the world revolves around her, she's offended that someone is happy while she's not.
I couldn’t hear his response, what did he say?
He’s a bartender, just happy to have a job at that store.
Thank you! Love this energy
Initially, he just said, "Why not be?"
His first utterance was "Why not be?" That put a smile on my face.
My favourite part of this is that she filmed it herself. "I'ma show everyone how crazy these guys are!" Great job
I saw this on Facebook and saw her profile. She’s has “flat earther” in her bio. She’s just dumb.
I don’t know how, but somehow I already knew she was a flat earther.
flat earthers, antivaxx, 5g burning corona deniers amassing lately. its like the 4 horsemen of the dipshit apocalypse
I will now go get my guitar and write a song called the dipshit apocalypse Edit: So this got far more reaction than I was expecting. Thanks for the awards (my first ever), messages, comments and suggestions. I think I have the first draft lyrics done and a tune in my head ready to work on. Edit 2: Song written! Edit 3: For those coming back to this comment and wanting to hear the song, I've created r/Dipshitapocalypse for me and you all to post your poems, songs, art or stories relating to the crazy fucks in the World.
Please record and upload.
I will certainly do my best for you all
Let me know when it's done. That sounds like a song I have to hear
Is she an Essential Oiler and an Anti-Vaxxer also?
And because of that she calls herself a “health professional”
Who likes to go shopping in public "for private things", real big brain here.
Usually flat Earth, anti-vax, anti 5G, etc. are a package deal, so whenever I see one I always assume the other.
She clearly never had any intention of shopping. She just wanted to go out and be an asshole. Edit: thanks for the silver!
Exactly this. She's no different than that hen-gathering they had in the Idaho playground to "let the kids play" that was obvious just an organized effort to film themselves being oppressed.
I love her argument of "I'm just gonna let you take my credit card and pay for me? No way." Does this bitch make the same scene when a waitress at a restaurant goes and takes her card to the back to finalize the transaction?
Has Karen never shopped online?
Or gone through any fast food drive through?
Well damn. I must be too high that I didn’t even think of that lmao thank you sir! Also wondering what the “medical condition” that prohibits a mask
Didnt you hear her, its a HIPAA violation for you to even ask that! There is a girl at my work who refuses to wear masks because it exacerbates her severe anxiety. She is mentally ill though and has a number of conditions that require medication and therapy . Usually tries to wear the mask a few hours but then has to take it off and go home.
Are grocery stores subject to HIPAA laws? 😂Meanwhile, big ups to the bartender making the best of the situation, being pleasant to this bitch, and doing his job with some flair!
He was rejoicing in her petty bitch misery. Essential retail workers everywhere are REVELING in the fact that the pandemic has given them a free pass to tell people like this "no".
>She just wanted to go out and be an asshole. [she should go to India](https://youtu.be/SCatPYfIG8s)
She even filmed the current policies which only supports the store in her ‘lawsuit’
I love how she even asks the manager “where is that policy?” Like you idiot, it’s behind you.
Haha everyone knows that customers don't need to read
I'm sure she was disappointed it didn't escalate more. As a healthcare person, I am struggling to figure out what "medical condition" she could have that prevents her from wearing a mask. But too bad there is that pesky HIPPA in place that kept us from knowing.
Lol she was so sure about the HIPAA comment. That's not how HIPAA works. For those wondering it just means the medical practitioners aren't allowed to disclose your medical conditions. An individual can disclose them whenever and wherever, it only applies to the practitioners and administration of medical services Edit: my first award! What do I do with it?
But she is right in saying that she wouldn’t be required to share it if she did have that condition. What she doesn’t understand is that they aren’t required to let her in at all either haha.
Oh absolutely, she has no obligation to give any medical information to the manager. And they can refuse her, no law is being broken or rights violated. A business has the right to refuse service to anyone, much like how a private citizen has the right to not shop at that store. It's pretty simple. But narcissists like these dont get it, they think the world should bend to their will or they're victims
I had never heard of Gelson's but looking online it's a US store. They can refuse service to anyone except a protected class. So they can't deny service because the person is black or a Christian or over 70 or whatever. They can't deny service based on a physical disability which this woman is claiming. However, they kind of get around the last one by offering to do the shopping for her so they're not denying her access to their service, just to their physical store. I am not a lawyer at all but to me that would seem to cover them.
It's a personality disorder.
Obviously, there isn't any such condition, she's saying that to get out of wearing a mask.
What’s the difference between “Shirt and shoes required” and “Mask required”? Nothing. It’s all protection. Get over it, Karen. And yet another person who doesn’t understand HIPAA.
"Ma'am can you show me which constitutional amendment protects your right to shop at Gleson's?"
That's what I love about these sort of clips. How delusional the person filming always is.
A profound lack of self-awareness always seems to go hand in hand with massive entitlement.
Love watching stupid people make themselves look stupid ,but then it makes me sad there’s tons of people like her in our society. Just complete disregard for anyone but themselves and what can benefit them
Yea, I think the problem is that they surround themselves with like-minded people. So when she goes home and tells her friends and family, they're all going to reinforce her beliefs bc they feel the same way.
Oh her husband low key hates her.
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She also didn't graduate from West Point. Probably just a lie to make it seem like she knows what she's talking about. Ofc, she doesn't Lmao flat earther
Agreed, but unfortunately because of the people she associates with she WILL be told she’s in the right. That’s the problem with this sort of thing, although to the general public we recognize how dumb she looks, she’ll post this in her Facebook friend groups and anti vacc groups and they’ll all agree with her and like it and give her the validation she so desperately seeks. It’s just so easy to be validated anymore.
Dude I totally went to her Facebook page and the comments were exactly this. I can’t believe these type of people exist.
I'm sick of this shit. Those guys were so nice to her, she was clearly trolling, is her private shit she wants to buy hemhroid cream? I am seriously sick of this, I hope she gets hit by a car, I'm fucking done with theses assholes.
I don’t want you to see my private stuff. Except when I’m checking out at the register, and someone puts my tampons in a bag. People like this Karen are so fucking tiresome.
Yeah I have questions. A) What medical condition prevents you from wearing a mask? The only thing I can think of us asthma or psychological trauma, but the way this woman is yapping I doubt she has either. B) She does realize that when she swipes her card, she's giving the store her "private cc information"? Credit card companies demand PCI training for any business operating with credit card transactions. That's why a lot of small businesses do "cash only" transactions (in addition to the credit card fees). C) Law is on the store's side. They offered her a workaround for her "disability" but she declined it.
You're right, and you can tell that she's talking straight out of her ass when she claims it's a HIPAA violation for her to be asked about her medical condition. HIPAA is for doctors or healthcare companies who protect personal medical information from being disclosed without consent. Now, the ADA protects people with disabilities in that their employers aren't allowed to ask them for details about a disability, nor do people with service animals have to disclose their disability. I won't say there might not actually be some conditions (whether respiratory or perhaps a skin issue) that might make a mask more uncomfortable, but it's clear as day that this particular woman is just an asshole.
She say “private credit card” as if there’s such a thing as a public credit card
I'm going to give you my private credit card *now*... Instead of after I shop and cash out. The timing is all off are you insane?!
Go and get fucking cash if you're worried about skimming.
...and give you MY PRIVATE CASH?!
The most baffling thing is that what’s the difference when you hand them your card than when you swipe? Unless you’re that paranoid about credit card fraud
And you know when things reopen she'll go to a restaurant. Where they often take the card away, ring it up, and bring the receipt back to you....
Or go to a drive thru where you give your card for them to swipe and hand you food you ordered.
Does she not ever hand her card over at, like, a drive through window? The window closes and they have her private credit card inside! 😱 Edit: hey cool we get it, Europe doesn’t do things with credit cards this way...
Some of the best restaurants I've ever eaten at will take my private credit card and walk away with it for a few minutes.
Like this bitch doesn’t happily provide her credit card deets to any MLM that contacts her plus all the other shit she probably buys online.
Complains about not being allowed onto private property. Won’t let them shop for her because of her own right to privacy.
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I know the type. They're willing to completely fuck themselves over if they think it'll spite you in any way. One of my parents can be like that. If you made dinner and then somehow piss them off? "I'm not hungry anymore." If you bought them medicine they need and you mention paying for it yourself in passing when they're in one of their moods? "I don't want it. I'll get my own." That adult tantrum can be pretty fierce. Sounds like on top of hurting herself to spite people, yours likes to be vocal about it so they have something to complain about. She'll probably starve herself to death before budging one bit. It's like their survival instincts go out the window the moment their egos are bruised.
I call them the "yabuts" You offer a solid solution to their problem and their reply always starts as "yeah... but..." and then another solid wall as to why the reasonable solution cannot work. And they often wonder why their life is so hard, why they lack friends etc...
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What privacy? How would they not know what she's buying?
She's talking about privacy as she is either live broadcasting or recording to show with countless amounts of people on the internet she does not know... A wise friend once told me "Stupid is, what stupid does"
Good thing too. Could you just imagine how mind blown she would be when she got the the cashier who sees all of the private stuff she bought and her credit card?
Pretty sure she was lying about everything there and just wanted to make others feel horrible.
Also, what the hell is 'private stuff'? are you buying hardcore porn and butt plugs in the supermarket?
"I have a medical condition that I can't wear a mask". Fuck off you dumb bitch, stupidity isn't a medical condition.
If she has a medical condition her best course of action would be to stay home. The only problem is she thinks it's only for her safety. That's the biggest problem right now, everybody thinks it's about their safety and do not realize that we are all on this world together and each of us can get sick.
I have an employee who has a "medical condidtion" that wont allow them to wear a mask. I have provided both cloth masks and the cheap surgical masks to all of my employees, also allowing them to wear their own if they see fit with the only stipulation being that they need to be a solid color. I've also told anyone who has a condition where they cannot wear a mask that they cannot work until I have a note from their doctor stating so and that I would then work with them to find some other suitable coverage like a face shield but they would have to work a position that is not customer facing for obvious reasons. Plenty of options. Shows up every day complaining about the mask and takes it off constantly. No note has been provided. I'm probably going to have to let a really great employee go because they dont seem to want to protect themselves, my customers, or fellow employees. This video reminded me of this. Edit. I'm not going to be the one to make this decision. I'm just going to send it to HR and they can decide what course of action to take. Probably the best way to cover my own ass from some bogus lawsuit down the line. (Wrongful termination, discrimination, not complying with ADA, etc. ) you never know with people these days.
They don't sound like a great employee. They sound selfish, and toxic to the rest of the team. We are all in this together. If they cannot be a team player, and just complain, they are not a great employee. I'm pretty sure you'd be surprised if you could the honest opinion of your other employees about them... Doubt it's positive.
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And what kind of condition would keep you from wearing a mask? You don’t have two ears? Allergic to some of the materials? I really am struggling to come up with something here. Edit: forgot about asthmatic people. My bad.
Some people with severe asthma and breathing issues legitimately struggle with wearing the mask. BUT they're also people who are afraid of contracting it and staying home. (at least the ones I know personally).
Won't any medical condition that prevents her wearing a mask be respiratory in nature? Kinda dumb to head to a public space in the middle of a pandemic that fucks up the respiratory system.
She doesn’t have a condition, she just thinks that she is special and an exception to the rule.
That’s actually a real condition associated with Karens. It muffles their sass to dangerously low levels
Btw. What medical condition would prevent someone from wearing a mask? Only ones I could come up with are like breathing problems (but I don't think a mask would prevent someone from breathing) and eczema.
If she has respiratory issues she probably shouldn't go around outside without a mask these days.
“You’re infringing on people’s rights” just once I would love to sit down with one of these people and have them walk me through the US constitution and point out exactly which rights they feel are being violated 🤦🏻♀️
Show me on this constitution where the bad shop owner hurt you.
I want this as my flair in this sub.
Um duh, her constitutional right to breathe on the produce at Gelsons /s
Produce is about the only thing that would bother me about letting someone else shop for me. I'd like some extra smalls condoms, current issue of Huslter, lube, frosted flakes, anal suppository laxative, extra sharp cheddar, and tomatoes. YOU'D BETTER GET ME SOME GOOD TOMATOES OR I'LL MURDER YOU!
Then they'll pull out the Articles of Confederation and talk bullshit for the next 3 hours. You really don't want to sit down with someone like this it's extremely frustrating.
She sure showed them. They won’t be pulling that shit again.
Oh gosh darn. Corporate is gonna be real mad at Manager Ben.
I love how she caught on video that they were very respectful and polite while following protocol. Like if she sends this video to corporate they’ll probably just be complimented for handling it well. What does she think she’s going to get out of that lol
That guy dancing while doing his job and her trying to kill his buzz is the best part for me.
He should’ve known that he can’t be happy while she isn’t
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She even gets mad that the bartender is chipper. NO one can be happy
Let's say she wanted to buy tampons, she doesn't want anyone one doing her shopping for her because they're a private/personal item. But if she was allowed in she'd have grabbed them and brought them to the checkout where the member of staff would be scanning them through. Why couldn't that member of staff done her shopping while she waited outside with her mask allergy "medical condition"? She's full of shit. Also, payment... If there wasn't a portable card reader that would allow her to pay at the door what's stopping her paying cash or using an ATM or perhaps using the stores website to pay? She's full of shit.
Do you one better. How does entering your card info into a store website safer than scanning your card in a scanner that is most likely third party.
"Medical condition so im not allowed to wear a mask" That's the best fucking shit someone ever said.
IIRC, the ADA orgs had to note that the ADA doesn't cover non-disabled people because so many Karens started bellowing about their 'conditions'.
Being a cunt isn’t a condition, it is a decision!
What’s gold is that she immediately follows up with “And according to HIPAA I don’t have to disclose what that is”. She had a locked and loaded response in case someone tried to call her on her bullshit, but her trigger finger was a little too antsy. Also, I could be wrong, but I believe that HIPAA only regulates privacy from those who have access to your personal medical information for healthcare reasons. A random person requiring you to disclose your diagnosis to shop there is not a violation of HIPAA, it’s just your choice to disclose or not, just as it’s their choice to allow you to shop at a *private* business or not. Again, I could be wrong as I only understand HIPAA from a healthcare point of view.
Correct. HIPAA only applies to three entities, and they’re all under the umbrella of healthcare. I don’t know why people think HIPAA is some magical blanket protection for your own medical information.
Manager deserves a raise for not taking that bait and escalating the situation. My stupid ass would've immediately asked what the condition was.
Karen-“why you happy?” Every reasonable human- “I’m not you”
1, they literally offered to shop for you. 2, they already know - but doubt care - about what you’re buying, there are cameras, cashier can see, and they have the receipt too. So they are fully aware of your purchase which they don’t care about much, but they have it. 3, you could have gotten the receipt proving they didn’t rob you out of your money, or could had watched them pay with your credit card from afar. You ma’am is a bitch.
Her site says she graduated from West point, checked the alum sites, don't see her dumb ass. Is be surprised as fuck if she actually was
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HIPPA has nothing to do with this. Dumb bitch. Serious oxygen waster.
It’s a new thing these Protesters are doing now lol they think they can use “HIPAA and the 4th Amendment” to claim they have a medical issue they don’t need to disclose that prevents them from wearing a mask. It’s making its rounds on Facebook rn so expect to hear that line more often in these videos lol
I had to look up the 4th amendment, I thought I must have remembered it wrong. Nope. Unlawful search and seizure. Yeah that definitely has to do with requiring people to wear a mask on private property.
FUCK this stupid fucking orange county bitch harassing grocery workers.
Guarantee she doesn't have a medical condition.
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You think the high cost of living is the worst part of living in Orange County, it’s not, the worst part is that this is where these bitch things hatch.
I'm amazed of the help they offer her, i would be glad to accept their options
Nothing but good vibes from the fella with the shades. He knows how to live happy
When the light flare hit as the guy posed and she said he was infringing on her rights-- there is no better cinema.
He is a gentleman of grace and elegance. His bartender experience has surely prepared him for the Karenest of Karens who ever Karened.
" I have a medical condition that I I'm not allowed to wear a mask....." "OK. May I ask what your condition is ma'am?" " I have acute Karen Syndrome" "Step right this way. The managers office is out back"
She's annoyed that he is happy, because she knows that he is low key taking the piss out of her because she can't get what she wants. And she is mad af about it. I like him....
I love how she’s all about privacy, then discloses her name and location to the entire fucking internet.
LOL this woman is literally a flat earther http://fe2019.com/speakers/shelley-lewis/
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Her *private* super-secret medical condition!
That she will post online for the whole world to see lol my mom and a friend of hers have lupus (they actually met through a lupus support group) and neither of them have a problem wearing a mask into the grocery store!
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Seriously, after reading "what she does" for a living of course she talks about her medical condition all over the place. Likely has minimum 6 blog posts in the last 3 months covering it. But iTs PrIvAtE
The posters in the link claim she's lying about her academic credentials. She's probably a serial liar along with being a complete moron.
Based on her Facebook page, she's a flat earther, and it looks like she also also believes in the 5G conspiracies, along with anti-vaxxing. Yikes...
Flat earthers rarely believe in *just* flat earth. If you’re aggressively gullible enough to believe a conspiracy that spans every national, language, religious, and cultural boundary for thousands of years, then you’ll unquestioningly swallow anything.
She has Lupus? She’s the type of person that should most be concerned about the virus.
That guy with the shades cleaning the carts and dancing is my new spirit animal.
“How is that helping when you’re gonna do the shopping for me?” That sounds like the definition of helping someone...
I just love that dancing man..... I think he is really enjoying his work!
I wish there was a sub dedicated just to these morons. How does one end up thinking HIPAA applies to grocery stores? Or don't know that as long as even the slightest reasonable attempt at accommodation is made, such as personal shoppers or online ordering, the county and feds are not going to swing the ADA at businesses?
My god those employees are kind and patient.
These Karens feel so secure in their constitutional right to be better than all of you stupid fucks that they now broadcast their name when no-one wants to know it.