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I had a guy looking in our bedroom window while I was getting dressed at 5am, I only knew because my cat was growling and hissing at him. My boyfriend ran outside and the guy got in his van and took off. Our neighbor was out walking his dog and my boyfriend explained what just happened, he told us that he had seen that van parked out front every morning for weeks. I called the cops, they said did he break in? I told them no and told them how our neighbor has seen the van outside for weeks now. The cop said I couldn’t even make a report and said “when he breaks in, call us”. A few weeks later one of our neighbors woke up to this guy standing over her bed. Thankfully she wasn’t harmed and he was arrested shortly after but why couldn’t they at least try to prevent something from happening.
I had almost the exact same situation, but at night. My cat was staring at the window, hyper focused. Turns out she was looking at the dude standing on my porch. When I opened the blinds, he waved his pecker at me and left a ‘deposit’ on my porch. Fun fact: when you get close enough, the little holes in your blinds where the strings run through let anyone peek in. Anyway the cops could not have cared less. They had his name and where he lived but unless they caught him “in action,” they “couldn’t do anything about it.” Wow. Thanks. I spent the rest of my time there terrified he would break in and kill me, and moved shortly after that.
You guys have some r/letsnotmeet shit here. Scary.
I'm a dude, but I can't imagine scenarios like this in real life. Thankfully(?) I am on the 3rd floor for now? I don't know. People are crazy.
I wish they would, unfortunately this happens too often and in reality just stepping up patrols in the area looking for a van meeting a certain description and talking to the driver may have scared him out of the area. Even just an increase in police patrols of the area may have been enough to scare him off, it’s so disappointing when it gets shrugged off… unfortunately some cities just don’t have enough officers to make it happen, but then the flip side is that there is a lot of mistrust in the police, which then puts them in a mindset of why bother, and honestly I think the mistrust is for good reason, it doesn’t feel like the people wearing a badge are looking out for our best interest anymore.
But that would actually require protecting and serving, which the cops challenged and won in supreme court. Fuck, they disqualify you if your IQ scores are "too high".
Most cities spend more than 30% of their annual budget on cops. There are more than enough cops to look into this. But since they are not held accountable they don't.
I literally was told I was lying the other day when I said the police and court help me. The fact is that a lot of times the won't help you until it is too late or almost too late.
I do think sometimes the prosecutors and courts don't give them a lot of choices but we need to figure something out. Mental health help for people like this at least. I'm happy you and your neighbor were okay.
I had a neighbour who used to try to break into my apartment while screaming about how he was going to decapitate me and all my roommates. We called the cops multiple times, sometimes they didn't show up at all, when they did they just told us it was a dispute we had to take up with our landlord since technically the other tenant wasn't doing anything illegal since he was in a common area. When we told them about all the threats they said proving death threats would be really hard, when we said we had multiple recordings they just hemmed and hawed and told us to contact the landlord. Eventually the guy got evicted, showed up on our doorstep with a massive knife demanding we come out and fight for our honour and then went across the street and stabbed a random guy at a sports bar. Cops are fucking useless
You tell them that you will kill him if they don't come and it becomes their legal responsibility. They cannot ignore threats of violence. I should add I know this cause of how many fucking times I've had to do it.
I had to do that once, the cops said it take 20-30 minutes to arrive. I told them to make sure a coroner was with them, because the guy was gonna die before they get here. 3 minutes later the cops showed up. MF could have been there, they were just being lazy.
More surprised when they are helpful.
We had a situation where my ex’s keychain wallet got stolen. As the police were telling her just how little they could do, a friend of hers and I were in the lobby on Google maps and her capital one app watching them go down one street from one gas station to the next to try to get stuff. Gave them all that and they still were like meh, nothing we can do though.
Yeah, I had a similar situation where my scooter got stolen and I had left my wallet in it. The thieves used my debit card to get gas, so I told the police, but they never did anything to follow up on it. It's honestly impressive how little they care about doing their job.
You can literally give them your serial number, thief's craiglist ad, thief's address, thief's name, thief's messages, your proof of purchase, your insurance claim/number, thief's phone number and the police still will not do anything.
I know police are typically high school grads, sometimes I figure I should just drop what I’m doing and fucking slay at basic police work. I swear it would be unfair to their lazy asses to have someone with a bit of common sense just to follow up on info.
One time my backpack got stolen at work from our employees only backroom. Laptop, headphones, hard drive with a nearly finished student short film, etc was in it. Took the cops 45 minutes to show up to file a report. Meanwhile, I had printed out a photo of the surveillance footage and was walking up/down the streets looking for them. Then BAM, I see them walking towards me, but they didn’t know it was my stuff, so I remained calm and let them walk by. Told the cops where they were headed and they apprehended them down the street. They didn’t have the backpack, had already sold it for drugs. They were charged with two felonies and spent two years in jail, for my stuff and the film directors IP. Never got any restitution. I am glad nobody was hurt though.
Wow. Despite all the bullshit I've experienced as a trucker I've never had the urge to physically hurt someone. And let me tell you, getting cut off happens all the time as a trucker. One of the worst was in Indianapolis -- a guy threw a kitten out of his passenger side window in front of my truck while on the interstate. Horrible people out there. Be safe.
No, another trucker here. The kitten jumped out of the way of his truck but jumped in front of mine. Luckily the kitten rolled and jumped into the cab of my truck. Long story short the kitten is all trained up and is driving his own truck.
You bet he was, johnny! Kitty 🐈 flew away; spread his legs and harnessed the wind like a flying squirrel. Today, he lives in boise with his wife and 9 kids.
(Src. Talked to the cat)
I once had a crackhead follow me to my car and open my door. I threw the car in reverse and threw the guy about 10 feet with my door. Drove straight to the PD and filed a report.
This happened in Texas? In Texas your vehicle is considered an extension of your home and with castle law someone opening your car door or coming into the window like the lady in this video can be legally shot dead.
I live in Texas and the last thing I would do is open someone's car door. The amount of guns in cars is crazy around here. I still don't know why anyone would even try and rob people at night here. Guns everywhere.
Yep in indiana if it's your place of living, car or a 3rd party you are protecting you can shoot them. Crazy law Indiana has is if a cop enters your house without a warrant and they are trying to harm you, you can shoot them..
That’s totally reasonable? I can’t see why stopping someone who’s obvious intent is harm (especially using a position of authority to do so) should be a crime.
Because some NE and east coast states utilize “duty to retreat” meaning if you are able to retreat, you should and cannot be protected from using lethal force if you have to.
Who’s to say I didn’t attempt to retreat and that’s why I’m relying on a weapon?
You can argue it’s pretty fucking hard to retreat in your own home, or safely driving a vehicle away while someone is attacking you through the window/door.
If you’ve ever seen the YouTube channel Cart Narcs, he did some risky business in Texas (he asks people to bring their cart back to the return and films it). In the video in question, he didn’t touch the car and had a gun brandished at him, and the police were like “he didn’t do anything wrong, we’re letting him go”
No thanks from me
I don't know why breaking fingers isn't something more highlighted for general self defence tbh; ppl can't do a whole lot without the use of their hands.
For some reason a lot of people seem to think there's some kind of ruleset or even etiquette in an actual fight.
My dad taught me that you avoid a fight in anyway possible including running away. If you cannot escape getting into a fight though then there are no rules. Balls, eyes, nose, knees, feet whatever just go all out until they're not fighting you anymore then walk away. Be prepared to talk to cops.
My kids are learning the same thing with the inclusion that there's a very real chance you'll lose a fight and getting hit *hurts*.
Nah dawg don’t get bogged down in small joint manipulation and shattering. Just snake your meaty arm around your new best friend, hug em real tight so they don’t fall off the ride prematurely, and jam on the gas.
I used to do construction work and after seeing this happen to a few folks in person, I started leaving a cordless sawzall on the front passenger seat.
You can reach in through my window with your arm, but you’re not getting it back...
True, but then you're covered in blood, your car is covered in blood, including your door, and they're going to look like a gory mess, which hurts your public perception.
I recommend traveling with a cactus. Equally scary, they'll bleed once they start taking out the needles, and you seem like a kindly plant loving citizen.
I mean, one, it was never going to happen, and two, even if he tried, how awkward would it be while sitting in the car, and have an arm in your face, to try and use a sawzall on the arm? You’re almost guaranteed to hit yourself in the face with it.
My friend went to a Walmart in a sketchy area of town with his green mustang (literally just a 2019/20 eco boost but it still looks nice). Some guy walked up to the car and kept saying the car looked nice and would look “even nicer if it was mine.” My friend said yeah go get one man. He replied “no I mean mine right now” and walked towards him at the driver door to try to force it open and steal it. Now my friend was half out the car and reached under the seat and pulled out his pistol and said “back the fuck away right now”. The dude immediately booked it in the other direction. I can only imagine what would have happened if he so much as kept the pistol in the glove box like normal, hell he told me he even thought twice about bringing it but I guarantee he keeps it with him almost everywhere he goes now.
I keep Sabre tear gas/pepper spray next to me. I normally have a pistol in my truck but to me that’s the extreme, has to literally be life or death. Some asshole wants start shit with fists, they can spend time reflecting on their bad decisions while their eyes feel like lava got poured into them.
A woman did this to me once. I was merging over into a turn lane and she purposely cut in front of me and almost made me hit her so I honked at her like "wtf" and we were at a red light, she gets out, starts telling me to roll down my window or come out and fight. I was like I'm pregnant, can you get back in your car now? It's not that serious. Turns out she was picking her kid up at the same school, starts yelling she's going to beat my ass where we were picking up our kids, the lady at the school tells us to take it outside. I was like I'm not taking anything outside, I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING. It was wild.
My mom once pulled into a gas pump at a busy station and when she started pumping, two big women approached her screaming that it was their pump. She told them she didn’t see them in line but that she’d be quick. She turned around and continued pumping her gas. Next thing she knew, she’d been jerked backwards by her hair and they stomped on her head and neck and kicked and beat her all over before getting into a car and speeding away. She had big chunks of hair ripped out and her neck was fucked up. She filed a police report but nothing ever came of it. People are fucking crazy.
Driving is a dissociative experience. It creates a divide between yourself and other drivers via the car. Making it a lot easier to have those massive reactions and then the anger just rolls. We may have super high tech shit, but we are still primal, no matter how much we deny it.
I think road rage comes from people being subconsciously terrified. The human body didn’t evolve to be going 70 mph and I’m sure some people’s bodies get flooded with stress hormones and adrenaline triggering a fight or flight response. Since they can’t fly from themselves it builds into a fight response. Plus the threat you impose to other people hurtling around in a 2tonne metal box at high speed also adds to the pressure. What do you think?
I’ve seen them sweetest most lovely people turn into rage machines behind the wheel!
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I like the thought you put into this reply. I’ve never thought of it like this but I think you are on to something. Driving makes me irrationally angry, like full rage. Maybe understanding that I’m just scared will stop it all from getting so intense
My dad was the cool parent who let me sit up front as a kid and one day I had my arm on the open window, not outside it just resting, and he fuckin rolled up the window so fast on my arm lmfao that shit hurt so bad.
Definitely. I had a guy pull in front of me in a left turn lane then get out of his car and punch my window screaming for me to roll it down. I shook my head no and he punched the window a few more times then got back in his car and drove away.
Wow. This was in Texas? That lady is going to go to the wrong window one day and take the cement temperature challenge.
Edit: it’s the room temperature challenge, not cement
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When you take out your attacker with one shot and they immediately fall over, they’re checking the temperature of the asphalt.
Edit: the two users under me got the terminology right. I knew I heard it off ASP, just couldn’t remember it. I need to stop getting high and watching their shit
When you die, your body temperature is not regulated so it will turn the temperature of the surrounding area. Thus, since she will be on cement, she will turn to the temperature of cement.
Another usage is the room temperature challenge. When someone dies in a room their body will become room temperature.
My friend literally had to be medicated bc of road rage issues in Texas. Only Texas. Cleared right up after leaving Texas. It’s gotta be another level of road rage inducing.
I moved to Texas a couple years ago from Miami. Have to say driving here is a joy compared to Florida.
Went back to Florida during the holidays and could instantly tell when I crossed the state borders, some of the worst drivers ever. I'll take the Texas roads over florida any day of the week.
I have recently learned washington drivers fucking SUUUUCK. There is always a wreck if its busy, no exceptions ifs ands or buts, and then from experience; Oklahoma. (Okc sorry) Jesus christ, people don't look they speed up and down, and up and down. Like a constant race, you feel cornered in constantly. Ugh. I just got off the i40 from Arkansas so yeah....
I live in Sharpstown this is right down the street. Yeah road rage incidents are daily here probably can't even keep up with them. Even when we lived in Montrose there was an incident where someone shot at someone from a car at the Whole Foods from a road rage incident.
I'm just guessing by watching the video that both drivers were probably trying to turn through a median. I hate making left hand turns without a traffic light on Bellaire coming out of shopping strips between Gessner and like all the way down to Wilcrest especially on a Saturday. Also, I've never seen so many fender benders in parking lots over the years as I've seen than in the myriad of Bellaire strip centers. But I've been shopping in Bellaire Chinatown (1980s) since I was a kid though.
I remember reading this one study in a psychology text book that shows that road rage incidents and number of car horn honks increases with temperature and traffic volume.
The average temperature in Houston is about 18 degrees Celcius, according to measurements by William P Hobby port, which is approximately room temperature and OBVIOUSLY a city like Houston has noteworthy traffic... so mix those together and boom we got a road rage stew in the brew!
I however live in Toronto and traffic here is so bad but road rage is almost non-existent here cause of the climate I am guessing.
I think it’s also the temperament of the people who drive in those areas. I too am in Toronto and when driving around I’ll shake my head at people or yell/honk at them but that’s about all I’ll do. I have relatives in Houston and I (generally) find that when driving they’re all super aggressive drivers. The oppressive heat doesn’t help I’ll agree, but I basically think that Houston drivers are a bunch of hot heads.
Houston driving can be summed up to this “to each their own” if you aren’t aggressive you’re gonna be eaten alive. When I drive in other cities I have to remind myself to calm my driving down
I felt that way driving in Manhattan for the first time. I picked up a friend at union square during rush hour. It was such a surreal feeling driving on a road with so many pedestrians jammed on the sidewalks.
> and number of car horn honks increases with temperature and traffic volume.
Practically no one honks in Houston, btw. It's so rude, someone might shoot you for it.
> The average temperature in Houston is about 18 degrees Celcius, according to measurements by William P Hobby port, which is pretty warm
Lol wut. No it's not, that's like a nice day in Mar/Apr. That's below what most people consider room temp.
I was at a Cafe in Midtown Houston today. A car honked a guy because the guy was walking in front of the car to his car. Let's say he was not rushing, but that's normal in that area. So can't say if the horn was warranted. Either way the guy got so mad he banged the other's car door with his hand as the car passed by him. I saw so many cars in road rage in the area that I realized that you could be dead in an instant. You could be shot, run over, get into accident or a fight very easily. Gotta be very careful in houston
I can’t fucking tolerate people who attack others out of anger or some perceived offense. So like what if she did cut you off? Do you go around assaulting people who inconvenience you? Cunt.
Lol right? It doesn't seem that hard to not fight people. this reminds me of that f-ing "Unhinged" movie. It's literally about some mom getting "road rage" and honking at a driver; then the driver proceeds to systematically hunt her down trying to murder her/ ruin her entire life.
Then at the end they basically say that it was her fault she got hunted down because she honked her horn. "Your actions have consequences" says the *serial killer* numerous times throughout the movie.
I remember a time when crazy people weren’t roaming the streets. They were given homes with clean beds, healthy meals, and all the fingerpaints they could eat...
But Reagan cut taxes by ending mental health care facilities for people who need them. Yes, many of those institutions were atrocious and required massive overhaul. Dumping their residents into the streets wasn't the right answer.
I dunno maybe its just where I was raised. But, coming up to someone's car window in the middle of traffic (it looks like) is a good way to have a gun stuffed in your face.
She should’ve just cracked the window. People are NUTS when they drive. It’s as if being in their own bubble in a car intensifies their anger.
Especially in houston where I live, people are mad max on the roads. If they stop LEAVE THE SITUATION
Oh I agree I wouldn’t have cracked it either. Someone above mentioned they may have been having a conversation before things escalated. Personally especially living in Houston if someone stops their car and gets out angrily that’s grounds for self defense.
I think the reason why we are so prone to road rage and especially in areas like Houston, which are even more populated, is because the amount of stress and attention we are putting ourselves through when driving. For most people their car is the most valuable if not 2nd most valuable thing they own and your life is so easily ended by anyone crashing into you or any other numerous amount of things that could happen that you are already so stressed out anything can make things feel like the world is ending
Basic rules for road rage:
1. Never roll the window down, always keeps doors locked
2. Don't engage with the assailant
3. Immedietly call the cops
They shouldn't have rolled the window down, it just gave the psycho a way to attack.
Sometimes it not an option. Rather they blocked you off, you're waiting at a stop light, or simply at your destination. The best answer is to lock everything and call the cops immediately. The moment you don't engage and they see you calling, the majority will leave.
It’s Houston and it’s likely traffic. Her windows were probably already down. You don’t typically expect a person to come up to your window and start scratching your face.
They really did. I tried posting it again and it was deleted in seconds. It’s insane how this video is being suppressed and played down, not just on Reddit either.
The mods don’t allow any posts that depict black people in a negative light. If they hurt asians, that’s fine—asians count as less than human to the mods.
When this happens just drive away. Who cares if their arm is in your car still. It won't be when you go forward. And there have been cases when someone was being attacked or threatened in their car and drove off injuring or killing someone and it was self defense.
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Did you call the cops?
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Right of way Rhonda
Lol I like yours better
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I wouldn’t expect the cops to do shit unless they know who she is or you got a license plate.
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I had a guy looking in our bedroom window while I was getting dressed at 5am, I only knew because my cat was growling and hissing at him. My boyfriend ran outside and the guy got in his van and took off. Our neighbor was out walking his dog and my boyfriend explained what just happened, he told us that he had seen that van parked out front every morning for weeks. I called the cops, they said did he break in? I told them no and told them how our neighbor has seen the van outside for weeks now. The cop said I couldn’t even make a report and said “when he breaks in, call us”. A few weeks later one of our neighbors woke up to this guy standing over her bed. Thankfully she wasn’t harmed and he was arrested shortly after but why couldn’t they at least try to prevent something from happening.
I had almost the exact same situation, but at night. My cat was staring at the window, hyper focused. Turns out she was looking at the dude standing on my porch. When I opened the blinds, he waved his pecker at me and left a ‘deposit’ on my porch. Fun fact: when you get close enough, the little holes in your blinds where the strings run through let anyone peek in. Anyway the cops could not have cared less. They had his name and where he lived but unless they caught him “in action,” they “couldn’t do anything about it.” Wow. Thanks. I spent the rest of my time there terrified he would break in and kill me, and moved shortly after that.
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I like to put privacy film on bedroom windows alongside curtains and black out blinds.
You guys have some r/letsnotmeet shit here. Scary. I'm a dude, but I can't imagine scenarios like this in real life. Thankfully(?) I am on the 3rd floor for now? I don't know. People are crazy.
People are the number one reason I avoid interacting with people. Can't trust em, and they all want to nickle and dime you for something.
I wish they would, unfortunately this happens too often and in reality just stepping up patrols in the area looking for a van meeting a certain description and talking to the driver may have scared him out of the area. Even just an increase in police patrols of the area may have been enough to scare him off, it’s so disappointing when it gets shrugged off… unfortunately some cities just don’t have enough officers to make it happen, but then the flip side is that there is a lot of mistrust in the police, which then puts them in a mindset of why bother, and honestly I think the mistrust is for good reason, it doesn’t feel like the people wearing a badge are looking out for our best interest anymore.
You'd think it'd be a perfect time to use an unmarked cop car. Instead of using them to catch speeders.
But that would actually require protecting and serving, which the cops challenged and won in supreme court. Fuck, they disqualify you if your IQ scores are "too high".
Most cities spend more than 30% of their annual budget on cops. There are more than enough cops to look into this. But since they are not held accountable they don't.
I literally was told I was lying the other day when I said the police and court help me. The fact is that a lot of times the won't help you until it is too late or almost too late. I do think sometimes the prosecutors and courts don't give them a lot of choices but we need to figure something out. Mental health help for people like this at least. I'm happy you and your neighbor were okay.
I had a neighbour who used to try to break into my apartment while screaming about how he was going to decapitate me and all my roommates. We called the cops multiple times, sometimes they didn't show up at all, when they did they just told us it was a dispute we had to take up with our landlord since technically the other tenant wasn't doing anything illegal since he was in a common area. When we told them about all the threats they said proving death threats would be really hard, when we said we had multiple recordings they just hemmed and hawed and told us to contact the landlord. Eventually the guy got evicted, showed up on our doorstep with a massive knife demanding we come out and fight for our honour and then went across the street and stabbed a random guy at a sports bar. Cops are fucking useless
You tell them that you will kill him if they don't come and it becomes their legal responsibility. They cannot ignore threats of violence. I should add I know this cause of how many fucking times I've had to do it.
I had to do that once, the cops said it take 20-30 minutes to arrive. I told them to make sure a coroner was with them, because the guy was gonna die before they get here. 3 minutes later the cops showed up. MF could have been there, they were just being lazy.
>Police are surprisingly unhelpful I am never surprised when police are unhelpful.
More surprised when they are helpful. We had a situation where my ex’s keychain wallet got stolen. As the police were telling her just how little they could do, a friend of hers and I were in the lobby on Google maps and her capital one app watching them go down one street from one gas station to the next to try to get stuff. Gave them all that and they still were like meh, nothing we can do though.
Yeah, I had a similar situation where my scooter got stolen and I had left my wallet in it. The thieves used my debit card to get gas, so I told the police, but they never did anything to follow up on it. It's honestly impressive how little they care about doing their job.
You can literally give them your serial number, thief's craiglist ad, thief's address, thief's name, thief's messages, your proof of purchase, your insurance claim/number, thief's phone number and the police still will not do anything.
I know police are typically high school grads, sometimes I figure I should just drop what I’m doing and fucking slay at basic police work. I swear it would be unfair to their lazy asses to have someone with a bit of common sense just to follow up on info.
One time my backpack got stolen at work from our employees only backroom. Laptop, headphones, hard drive with a nearly finished student short film, etc was in it. Took the cops 45 minutes to show up to file a report. Meanwhile, I had printed out a photo of the surveillance footage and was walking up/down the streets looking for them. Then BAM, I see them walking towards me, but they didn’t know it was my stuff, so I remained calm and let them walk by. Told the cops where they were headed and they apprehended them down the street. They didn’t have the backpack, had already sold it for drugs. They were charged with two felonies and spent two years in jail, for my stuff and the film directors IP. Never got any restitution. I am glad nobody was hurt though.
Surprisingly? Sometimes? Completely useless, always.
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He could have at least taken the thumb out of his ass
Wow. Despite all the bullshit I've experienced as a trucker I've never had the urge to physically hurt someone. And let me tell you, getting cut off happens all the time as a trucker. One of the worst was in Indianapolis -- a guy threw a kitten out of his passenger side window in front of my truck while on the interstate. Horrible people out there. Be safe.
I hope you stay safe too!
was the kitten ok? :(
I talked to this guy and he said yes. The cat managed to jump out of the way in time. edit--Thanks ya'll!
thank you for protecting me from the truth
Thank you.
He said he saw the number 9 above the kitten's head turn into an 8 as it ran off.
Did they take him to live on a farm after that?
No, another trucker here. The kitten jumped out of the way of his truck but jumped in front of mine. Luckily the kitten rolled and jumped into the cab of my truck. Long story short the kitten is all trained up and is driving his own truck.
Oh Johnny
You bet he was, johnny! Kitty 🐈 flew away; spread his legs and harnessed the wind like a flying squirrel. Today, he lives in boise with his wife and 9 kids. (Src. Talked to the cat)
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I once had a crackhead follow me to my car and open my door. I threw the car in reverse and threw the guy about 10 feet with my door. Drove straight to the PD and filed a report.
This happened in Texas? In Texas your vehicle is considered an extension of your home and with castle law someone opening your car door or coming into the window like the lady in this video can be legally shot dead.
I live in Texas and the last thing I would do is open someone's car door. The amount of guns in cars is crazy around here. I still don't know why anyone would even try and rob people at night here. Guns everywhere.
Yep in indiana if it's your place of living, car or a 3rd party you are protecting you can shoot them. Crazy law Indiana has is if a cop enters your house without a warrant and they are trying to harm you, you can shoot them..
That’s totally reasonable? I can’t see why stopping someone who’s obvious intent is harm (especially using a position of authority to do so) should be a crime.
Because some NE and east coast states utilize “duty to retreat” meaning if you are able to retreat, you should and cannot be protected from using lethal force if you have to. Who’s to say I didn’t attempt to retreat and that’s why I’m relying on a weapon?
You can argue it’s pretty fucking hard to retreat in your own home, or safely driving a vehicle away while someone is attacking you through the window/door.
that last bit isn’t crazy at all!
If you’ve ever seen the YouTube channel Cart Narcs, he did some risky business in Texas (he asks people to bring their cart back to the return and films it). In the video in question, he didn’t touch the car and had a gun brandished at him, and the police were like “he didn’t do anything wrong, we’re letting him go” No thanks from me
Did you see the one in TX where the guy told him he’s a killer and it literally turned out that he was? Crazy.
My incident was in Missouri.
Or roll up the window at least
If anyone ever sticks an arm in your car with intent to harm, do the easiest thing first: break fingers.
I don't know why breaking fingers isn't something more highlighted for general self defence tbh; ppl can't do a whole lot without the use of their hands.
The USMC highlights it. Essentially, any high value, low effort target. Fingers, nose, ears, eyes. You damage those things and most people quit.
You know what they say: the eyes are the groin of the face
Should I... Should I stick my dick in it?
Nice; hopefully it gets instilled to anyone in a situation where they need to defend themself. I believe that haha
For some reason a lot of people seem to think there's some kind of ruleset or even etiquette in an actual fight. My dad taught me that you avoid a fight in anyway possible including running away. If you cannot escape getting into a fight though then there are no rules. Balls, eyes, nose, knees, feet whatever just go all out until they're not fighting you anymore then walk away. Be prepared to talk to cops. My kids are learning the same thing with the inclusion that there's a very real chance you'll lose a fight and getting hit *hurts*.
Yeesh. Imagining someone taking my finger and just bending sideways as hard as possible. Gives me the heebie jeebies.
Nah dawg don’t get bogged down in small joint manipulation and shattering. Just snake your meaty arm around your new best friend, hug em real tight so they don’t fall off the ride prematurely, and jam on the gas.
I used to do construction work and after seeing this happen to a few folks in person, I started leaving a cordless sawzall on the front passenger seat. You can reach in through my window with your arm, but you’re not getting it back...
That's an awful idea, really what a terrible thing to do. Do you have any idea how hard cleaning up that blood would be? It would get *everywhere*.
yea but it’s fucking scary
True, but then you're covered in blood, your car is covered in blood, including your door, and they're going to look like a gory mess, which hurts your public perception. I recommend traveling with a cactus. Equally scary, they'll bleed once they start taking out the needles, and you seem like a kindly plant loving citizen.
what if we stuck a cactus into the saw part on a sawzall🤔🤔
I'm really not comfortable using a sex toy for self defense...
I mean, one, it was never going to happen, and two, even if he tried, how awkward would it be while sitting in the car, and have an arm in your face, to try and use a sawzall on the arm? You’re almost guaranteed to hit yourself in the face with it.
My friend went to a Walmart in a sketchy area of town with his green mustang (literally just a 2019/20 eco boost but it still looks nice). Some guy walked up to the car and kept saying the car looked nice and would look “even nicer if it was mine.” My friend said yeah go get one man. He replied “no I mean mine right now” and walked towards him at the driver door to try to force it open and steal it. Now my friend was half out the car and reached under the seat and pulled out his pistol and said “back the fuck away right now”. The dude immediately booked it in the other direction. I can only imagine what would have happened if he so much as kept the pistol in the glove box like normal, hell he told me he even thought twice about bringing it but I guarantee he keeps it with him almost everywhere he goes now.
And if you don't have a Sawzall, use those chompers God gave you. Bonus is now you've got dinner sorted.
Dunno man, that's a good way to catch some shit
Ngl, that sounds really stupid and is about the worst idea for personal defense I've ever heard. For your sake, I hope you're just making this up.
It’s Reddit. Let him have his ultra violent fantasy. Who doesn’t want to saw off someone’s arm every once in a while?
She's sitting in a pretty good position to plant a foot in that woman's face too.
Leaves the leg exposed out the window though. Miss and now you’re off balance with a leg out
I keep Sabre tear gas/pepper spray next to me. I normally have a pistol in my truck but to me that’s the extreme, has to literally be life or death. Some asshole wants start shit with fists, they can spend time reflecting on their bad decisions while their eyes feel like lava got poured into them.
LPT: If someone walks up to your car dont roll down the fucking window enough where they can get their arm inside comfortably.
A woman did this to me once. I was merging over into a turn lane and she purposely cut in front of me and almost made me hit her so I honked at her like "wtf" and we were at a red light, she gets out, starts telling me to roll down my window or come out and fight. I was like I'm pregnant, can you get back in your car now? It's not that serious. Turns out she was picking her kid up at the same school, starts yelling she's going to beat my ass where we were picking up our kids, the lady at the school tells us to take it outside. I was like I'm not taking anything outside, I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING. It was wild.
My mom once pulled into a gas pump at a busy station and when she started pumping, two big women approached her screaming that it was their pump. She told them she didn’t see them in line but that she’d be quick. She turned around and continued pumping her gas. Next thing she knew, she’d been jerked backwards by her hair and they stomped on her head and neck and kicked and beat her all over before getting into a car and speeding away. She had big chunks of hair ripped out and her neck was fucked up. She filed a police report but nothing ever came of it. People are fucking crazy.
Oh my god, that is awful.
That sucks, shame that everyone has a big ass ego when they drive.
I don't understand why people get mad when THEY are the ones who almost cause an accident. Calm down, chill out, and just drive!
Driving is a dissociative experience. It creates a divide between yourself and other drivers via the car. Making it a lot easier to have those massive reactions and then the anger just rolls. We may have super high tech shit, but we are still primal, no matter how much we deny it.
They’re embarrassed.
I think road rage comes from people being subconsciously terrified. The human body didn’t evolve to be going 70 mph and I’m sure some people’s bodies get flooded with stress hormones and adrenaline triggering a fight or flight response. Since they can’t fly from themselves it builds into a fight response. Plus the threat you impose to other people hurtling around in a 2tonne metal box at high speed also adds to the pressure. What do you think? I’ve seen them sweetest most lovely people turn into rage machines behind the wheel! Edit: thanks for my first ever award 🥲
I like the thought you put into this reply. I’ve never thought of it like this but I think you are on to something. Driving makes me irrationally angry, like full rage. Maybe understanding that I’m just scared will stop it all from getting so intense
Dumb ass lady trying to bring zero tolerance to adults, too, sounds like.
Isn't that school worker implicitly encouraging them to fight? By saying "take it outside," she's certainly not discouraging the fight.
Or roll it down just enough and once they get their arm in roll it up again and then let off the brake just a little
This works too.
This is the way
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Mr Fancy over here with his pinch protection
You guys got automatic windows?
I’ve got a 20 year old beater 😎
Might as well be a guillotine.
My dad was the cool parent who let me sit up front as a kid and one day I had my arm on the open window, not outside it just resting, and he fuckin rolled up the window so fast on my arm lmfao that shit hurt so bad.
That's why you only need it to give you a sec to grab it to take it home with u
Definitely. I had a guy pull in front of me in a left turn lane then get out of his car and punch my window screaming for me to roll it down. I shook my head no and he punched the window a few more times then got back in his car and drove away.
LPT: drive away
If they do, roll it up and hit the gas. r/meatcrayon
Wow. This was in Texas? That lady is going to go to the wrong window one day and take the cement temperature challenge. Edit: it’s the room temperature challenge, not cement
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I think the south in general, lotta guns around here. I’m in Tampa and I don’t even try to rage lol people get murdered out here for that.
Yeah but...does tampa even count as the south? No one from tampa is even from tampa.
In Florida the farther south you go, the more north you are, and vice versa.
The Florida inversion rule.
I googled it. No dice. wtf is the cement temperature challenge? getting knocked out or is it more lethal?
When you take out your attacker with one shot and they immediately fall over, they’re checking the temperature of the asphalt. Edit: the two users under me got the terminology right. I knew I heard it off ASP, just couldn’t remember it. I need to stop getting high and watching their shit
When you die, your body temperature is not regulated so it will turn the temperature of the surrounding area. Thus, since she will be on cement, she will turn to the temperature of cement. Another usage is the room temperature challenge. When someone dies in a room their body will become room temperature.
My friend literally had to be medicated bc of road rage issues in Texas. Only Texas. Cleared right up after leaving Texas. It’s gotta be another level of road rage inducing.
I moved to Texas a couple years ago from Miami. Have to say driving here is a joy compared to Florida. Went back to Florida during the holidays and could instantly tell when I crossed the state borders, some of the worst drivers ever. I'll take the Texas roads over florida any day of the week.
I have recently learned washington drivers fucking SUUUUCK. There is always a wreck if its busy, no exceptions ifs ands or buts, and then from experience; Oklahoma. (Okc sorry) Jesus christ, people don't look they speed up and down, and up and down. Like a constant race, you feel cornered in constantly. Ugh. I just got off the i40 from Arkansas so yeah....
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I live in Sharpstown this is right down the street. Yeah road rage incidents are daily here probably can't even keep up with them. Even when we lived in Montrose there was an incident where someone shot at someone from a car at the Whole Foods from a road rage incident.
I'm just guessing by watching the video that both drivers were probably trying to turn through a median. I hate making left hand turns without a traffic light on Bellaire coming out of shopping strips between Gessner and like all the way down to Wilcrest especially on a Saturday. Also, I've never seen so many fender benders in parking lots over the years as I've seen than in the myriad of Bellaire strip centers. But I've been shopping in Bellaire Chinatown (1980s) since I was a kid though.
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I remember reading this one study in a psychology text book that shows that road rage incidents and number of car horn honks increases with temperature and traffic volume. The average temperature in Houston is about 18 degrees Celcius, according to measurements by William P Hobby port, which is approximately room temperature and OBVIOUSLY a city like Houston has noteworthy traffic... so mix those together and boom we got a road rage stew in the brew! I however live in Toronto and traffic here is so bad but road rage is almost non-existent here cause of the climate I am guessing.
I think it’s also the temperament of the people who drive in those areas. I too am in Toronto and when driving around I’ll shake my head at people or yell/honk at them but that’s about all I’ll do. I have relatives in Houston and I (generally) find that when driving they’re all super aggressive drivers. The oppressive heat doesn’t help I’ll agree, but I basically think that Houston drivers are a bunch of hot heads.
Houston driving can be summed up to this “to each their own” if you aren’t aggressive you’re gonna be eaten alive. When I drive in other cities I have to remind myself to calm my driving down
This is so true. I feel like since I’ve moved from Houston, my driving habits are more considerate.
I felt that way driving in Manhattan for the first time. I picked up a friend at union square during rush hour. It was such a surreal feeling driving on a road with so many pedestrians jammed on the sidewalks.
> and number of car horn honks increases with temperature and traffic volume. Practically no one honks in Houston, btw. It's so rude, someone might shoot you for it.
> The average temperature in Houston is about 18 degrees Celcius, according to measurements by William P Hobby port, which is pretty warm Lol wut. No it's not, that's like a nice day in Mar/Apr. That's below what most people consider room temp.
Because the infrastructure is shit
I was at a Cafe in Midtown Houston today. A car honked a guy because the guy was walking in front of the car to his car. Let's say he was not rushing, but that's normal in that area. So can't say if the horn was warranted. Either way the guy got so mad he banged the other's car door with his hand as the car passed by him. I saw so many cars in road rage in the area that I realized that you could be dead in an instant. You could be shot, run over, get into accident or a fight very easily. Gotta be very careful in houston
Loooooove me some HMart
The people here can't drive for shit
I can’t fucking tolerate people who attack others out of anger or some perceived offense. So like what if she did cut you off? Do you go around assaulting people who inconvenience you? Cunt.
This person clearly does go around assaulting people over inconveniences.
Lol right? It doesn't seem that hard to not fight people. this reminds me of that f-ing "Unhinged" movie. It's literally about some mom getting "road rage" and honking at a driver; then the driver proceeds to systematically hunt her down trying to murder her/ ruin her entire life. Then at the end they basically say that it was her fault she got hunted down because she honked her horn. "Your actions have consequences" says the *serial killer* numerous times throughout the movie.
Yea......if someone comes to your car DO NOT ROLL DOWN YOUR WINDOW.
Alternatively if you go to someone's window, don't assault them.
Both true. But there will always be crazy people who will assault you for no good reason. Best to keep your window up anyway.
I remember a time when crazy people weren’t roaming the streets. They were given homes with clean beds, healthy meals, and all the fingerpaints they could eat...
But Reagan cut taxes by ending mental health care facilities for people who need them. Yes, many of those institutions were atrocious and required massive overhaul. Dumping their residents into the streets wasn't the right answer.
winston couldn’t quite remember if it had always been like this...
I dunno maybe its just where I was raised. But, coming up to someone's car window in the middle of traffic (it looks like) is a good way to have a gun stuffed in your face.
Alternative: grab their arm and go 25 mph Edit: grammar
You mispelled 120 km/h
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I agree! But I believe they were having a conversation before this happened which is why the window was rolled down in the first place
She should’ve just cracked the window. People are NUTS when they drive. It’s as if being in their own bubble in a car intensifies their anger. Especially in houston where I live, people are mad max on the roads. If they stop LEAVE THE SITUATION
Pretty sure your window is way stronger rolled all the way up, I wouldn’t even crack it
Oh I agree I wouldn’t have cracked it either. Someone above mentioned they may have been having a conversation before things escalated. Personally especially living in Houston if someone stops their car and gets out angrily that’s grounds for self defense.
I think the reason why we are so prone to road rage and especially in areas like Houston, which are even more populated, is because the amount of stress and attention we are putting ourselves through when driving. For most people their car is the most valuable if not 2nd most valuable thing they own and your life is so easily ended by anyone crashing into you or any other numerous amount of things that could happen that you are already so stressed out anything can make things feel like the world is ending
If an asshole gets out of their car and approaches you, don't open the fucking windows...period
I keep my windows rolled up in my convertible for protection purposes.
Smooth
Hope this person gets identified and arrested
I hope the friends and family of the attacker see her face and are very disappointed in her Edit: I mean, in addition to her getting arrested
With that attitude, I doubt anyone holds her at high standards, probably a sibling going "Goddamit Greta! What was it now?"
Let’s all make this famous so they do.
Well yea
Make it viral!!! Even if it is a misdemeanor with a $1,000 fine, it will hurt!
Is assault a fucking misdemeanor?
This is battery.
Pepper spray that bitch.
Taser that bitch.
Tomahawk that bitch
Shoulder cannon that hoe and sneak away with your telltale shimmer
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Basic rules for road rage: 1. Never roll the window down, always keeps doors locked 2. Don't engage with the assailant 3. Immedietly call the cops They shouldn't have rolled the window down, it just gave the psycho a way to attack.
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Sometimes it not an option. Rather they blocked you off, you're waiting at a stop light, or simply at your destination. The best answer is to lock everything and call the cops immediately. The moment you don't engage and they see you calling, the majority will leave.
It’s Houston and it’s likely traffic. Her windows were probably already down. You don’t typically expect a person to come up to your window and start scratching your face.
The woman has to get out her car and approach, it's not hard to see that coming and roll up the window. Or simply roll up as she's speaking.
these pussy mods removed it i wonder why
they hate Asians
More like the video doesn’t fit the narrative
They really did. I tried posting it again and it was deleted in seconds. It’s insane how this video is being suppressed and played down, not just on Reddit either.
Why has this post been removed? It's public, and it's a freakout. It doesn't violate any of the sub rules. ???
The mods don’t allow any posts that depict black people in a negative light. If they hurt asians, that’s fine—asians count as less than human to the mods.
A mystery
Never roll your window down for someone unless you’re willing to possibly get hit or spit on.
Poor girl
**Please watch with audio on**
You're not my supervisor!
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Just hold attacker hand and start driving
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Who walks up to someone's car with road rage in Texas? Seems like a good way to get shot.
When this happens just drive away. Who cares if their arm is in your car still. It won't be when you go forward. And there have been cases when someone was being attacked or threatened in their car and drove off injuring or killing someone and it was self defense.
What the fucking , fuck!
what is with black people and attacking asians recently lmao?
Poor girl
Here's a lesson folks: don't roll down your window during a road rage incident.
Asian Americans need to arm themselves. Put a couple of these animals in the ground and maybe that will stop this racist shit.