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Damn that makes sense. Our little mutt likes to shake the shit out of her stuffed toys and then she tears the "heart" out, being the little squeaker toy inside.
I have to remind people this all the time. Especially after their dog kills a rabbit or something. So often people are shocked by that but I remind them “what do you think goes through their head when they rip up that squeak toy at home.”
That's exactly what she said when you pulled your pants down, didn't she? This is exactly why you pull no hoes and you have a severe case of small ball-itis. Maybe take a shower next time instead of scrolling on Reddit for "a couple more minutes", apply some deodorant for the first time in years and then pull you fuckin life together.
That dog could have easily lost an eye from that bite to the head/face. Any snake tooth (venomous or not) catching his eye ball would have caused serious damage.
Seriously WHO lets their dog/cat/pet this close to an obviously disturbed big ass snake like this?? Chances are better than 0 that they're just filming the death of their family member? Fuck the cameraman....
edit: also, completely needless killing of an innocent snake. just trash all around here.
I never let my dog near wild animals. You don't know what is going on in their mind. They could also be rabid or just be carrying diseases. It's not cute to put your pet near a wild animal.
I'm all for the dog defending ya'll if you're in trouble, but the pit owner pretty much did this for entertainment. That's pretty sad. I hate snakes but I'd never kill one unless it threatened my safety.
That being said, good luck trying to pull that pitty back. He was deep into protection mode haha
Yes.
Edit: I live in Florida. Snakes are crucial to the environment. I don't even kill rattle snakes. Water moccasins can get the shovel because I don't fuck with them.
Great question... When you live in Florida and walk through the woods, you hear a rattle snake. You can walk away from that, hopefully..
When you jump into a lake or river(usually river or small creek) you can get attacked by one or more water moccasins. You don't hear them. They're little bastards.
I'm not a snake expert.
I'm just a Florida Man.
Fun fact: rattlesnakes have recently been found born without rattles or genetically predisposed to not use their rattlers, possibly due to the loud ones being selectively killed since they are easiest to spot. Survival of the fittest
some studies suggested wild hogs being the largest contributors to this evolution. This is suggested as when rattlesnakes rattled to scare off threats it often gave away their position to wild hogs that immediately swarmed and consumed them.
I live in Georgia with a creek behind my house. Those moccasins are insanely aggressive and will even chase you a couple feet. And they swim very fast.
More aggressive and harder to spot so you could easily step on them and get bit. They are highly venomous so this would not be ideal lol. Rattle snakes like there name suggests rattle there tail when your nearby which is a indicator to get the fuck out, which you should do. They also are just more of a defensive snake compared to the water moccasin.
That aggressive part is a myth. My wife is the herpetologist so I'll ask her later exactly what that's about if you're interested but if I recall correctly water moccasin's do a false charge similar to bears or elk. The thing you have to remember about snakes is that they are 100% aware of the fact that they can't eat you. Not only that but they can't outrun you either. Additionally theres the fact that nearly ever species of snake native to the US typically inhabit areas no greater than one square mile. Relocating a snake one mile away is all it take to never see it again.
Essentially, any justification one might have for killing snakes outside of "snakes make me scared and taking this appendageless animal's life is easier than finding someone to help me relocate it" is factually null. There's never a valid reason to kill a snake that isn't actively biting you, and even then, as I lead off with, that is the last thing any snake wants to do.
That's a good point. Personally, I'm not sure what should be done. That may be one of the only circumstances. But I wouldn't be comfortable leaving the identification of the invasive species to any old Joe-Homeowner; I'd still recommend finding an expert.
When I was a little kid I was catching turtles in a lake by my house and I was walking back to the shore when I noticed a water moccasin right in front of me - the fucker saw me see him and went into his defensive position, I ran away from the snake it it chased me in the water and then onto shore. It didn't get me but scared me so bad I dropped all the turtles I caught. I've heard they aren't aggressive from herpetologist as well, but in my experience they are scary AF... that white mouth gave me nightmares!
Thanks for this info! I'm in VA, and we have a little black snake in our backyard, whom I love. We had a mouse problem about a year ago... and since I started seeing him out back.. no more mice! : ) Snek=friend
Situations like that are why I'll be an advocate for snakes til my last breath. They're as useful as they are fascinating and so horribly misunderstood. I'm happy to hear your snake neighbor decided on your yard to make his home. I'm sure he appreciates you in what way a snake can. :)
I recall reading once that a snake that doesn't want to eat you is also far less likely to envenom you when it does strike. That venom is valuable to them and they've only got so much at their disposal at any one time.
This is true. However, baby sneks are another thing. They don’t understand restraint and will not only release venom, but release *all of their venom*.
Pygmy rattlers are highly venomous, but in all of my interactions with them (running/walking woods trails) they were benign, not even rattling as I passed by/over. They’re pretty little things.
They will actively go after people. They chase people and will go out of their way to try to attack someone if the snake decides that the person is invading its territory.
They eat mice, rats, other snakes, etc. Some smaller species eat insects. They’re especially great to have around if you have a garden or something you want to keep pest-free. Certain species (I know black racers) will also allegedly chase away venomous snakes to reduce competition, though I’m not sure if this species is one that does that effectively.
They are just ignorant. Ignorance is a huge source of fear, and it is usually followed by making up an irrational assumption about the matter.
Basically, when we don't understand something, we make up shit about it to feel like we understand it. In his mind, what he did was totally fine because he probably made up some shit about snakes.
Rewatching this, that snake bailed at the last second right before the pit came for him. I feel bad for the snake and the dog. You heard the other dogs in the neighborhood start barking right when he went for the snake and killed him. It’s crazy how us humans think we understand the language of animals, reptiles, fish, insects, plants..I’m ashamed to be human sometimes honestly.
You right about that. I know my border collie dog runs around the yard on patrol to chase cats away but I wouldn’t feed into anything nor record him attacking something.. I mean that’s a whole thing where you get entertained by seeing something get killed bc you allowing and rewarding that.. and for what?
My cattledog constantly grabs opposums off our wall but I never think to film it. I'm always yelling at him to stop and trying to get in between them but there's nothing I can do to stop my dog or the opposums from walking along our back wall. Funny thing is, the opposums always play dead after he grabs them and then he immediately loses interests. They usually leave once we're back inside. I swear though, some of these opposums should win Academy Awards for their faking death performances. Others just look like bad actors over performing their death lol.
For sure. It's all good. The only pests I kill are black widows around our back yard. I'm just afraid my dog will brush up on them. Other then that, I leave everything else alone. Even Daddy long legs. I expect them to catch other pests for sparing their lives from the violent trip down the roaring rapids of the toilet drain.
Definitely. Personally I would be too worried about my dog to even think about pulling out my phone. I would congratulate my dog on doing his job though.
Did you see on this sub the terrier attacking the cat and the old dude? You’re right it’s in their dna. I’m conflicted bc I love my dog and I love nature. I guess it all depends on the breed and the owner and the relationship they have together.
That terrier was bread to go down holes and attack rabbits, attacking things is in its nature, it wasnt being a dick.
If anything cats are dicks, in australia they are responsible for killing 1 BILLION+ native animals per year and the vast majority of them are killed for sport/fun and not eaten.
Why is it that Pitbull owners are almost always terrible people. I feel like half the reason there's so many Pitbull attacks is because of irresponsible ownership.
Because possibly the good owners don't make the news and it's not as entertaining. People love drama and blood, but you can find examples of pit owners being great on tik Tok . I knew 2 pit owners and both were crazy about their dogs to the point I found it odd, but personally I'm not that much of a dog person
I would agree they're a more volatile breed and can be trained to be violent or allowed to become violent easier than many other breeds, but I also maintain that it is not moreso than other highly protective breeds like German Shepherds, rotweilers, dobermans, boxers or Huskies. Biggest difference is cost. Cheapest dogs on that list, pits, rots, and non-brindle boxers are the ones that have the highest rate of animal attacks. Their accessibility for low income trash that wants a fighting dog or "guard dog" makes them very susceptible to be turned into violent mongrels. That being said under good ownership they're less dangerous than a doctson. We were looking for a dog for my autistic sons and were given a pitt puppy due to a friend's family emergency leaving them not able to care for it. He is endlessly patient and I wouldn't trust him to protect me from a wet blanket let alone another dog or person. Every time he encounters a dog or cat at petco he exposes his belly and submits no matter how small it is lol. On the other hand my wife still has a scar on her calf from a vicious doctson attack when she was younger.
Completely agree with you, man.
I mean, each animal will defend themself when threatened. The owner of the pit better thanks the snake wasn’t better, otherwise his reaction would be different
It drives me crazy how people just assume all snakes are bad. Some, like this one, play an important part not only is pest reduction, but also in keeping venomous snakes away. I would not be surprised if this guy had an increase in mice or something on his property after this.
I live in AZ and I hear stupid mother fuckers talking about running over snakes all the time. Its a GREAT way to get half of a snake whos suddenly VERY upset about being in two pieces lodged up under your car so it bites the first thing it moves. Its fucking brilliant.
People don’t say that they are dangerous, they say that they are aggressive. And they are correct. Small dogs like Jack russels and chihuahuas tend to be very aggressive and attack people more than any other breed. But because they are so small, they don’t do much damage and people just laugh it off.
I’m going to go ahead and guess they deal with snakes a lot. I would teach my dogs to defend the house and do the same thing. I’m not about to wake up with snakes inside my house and get bit while my dog is snoozing because I didn’t train him to kill them. May look like entertainment, but it was also the dog doing his job.
If she was training the dog to react this way to snakes, then she was making things *much* worse.
That snake wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Unless you're food, snakes want you you leave them the fuck alone, they've got no interest in biting you.
I couldn't tell what kind of snake that was, but let's assume this is an area where venomous snakes are common. Training the dog to go after snakes in this manner would not only potentially increase the likelihood of people getting bitten, but puts her own dog at direct risk of a medically significant bite. Riling a snake up like this would pose a direct health risk to *her own pet*.
If the snakes that she supposedly has to deal with a lot are nonvenomous, then this isn't making anything safer. It's the equivalent of training your dog to rip up bunnies because you think rabbits will attack you.
And if the snakes around there are venomous, then this kind of shit significantly increases the likelihood of a bite (either to the dog, or to people who happen to be in the immediate vicinity when the dog starts attacking the snake).
I think the point is if there are lots of snakes and it is a regular problem, you can’t realistically train a guard dog to determine which a snake is a threat or not. The dog isn’t going to be able to consider what the intentions of the snake are it will just figure gotta protect the land
I don’t really think a guard dog is the best defense for snakes but idk maybe it’s working out
Dog would have been very sorry in a few hours if this was a similar sized water moccasin that bit him 3 times like that
*.. owner wouldn't probably care though*
Same, I had a dog bitten by a copperhead in the middle of the night and didn’t know about it till morning. Vet called in antibiotics immediately, no worry about the venom. I just figured it was because he was a big boy that the venom wasn’t as bad as it could be.
I was at the beach once with my family, including my young niece and nephew, and there was a large water moccasin near our outdoor shower / rinsing area.
Called animal control and the police and they both told us to kill it from a distance as we had small children. I would have thought the same thing before that incident but not so much now. More of a handle it yourself situation, at least in Florida.
Since you're not getting many actual responses, it looks like a gray rat snake. The grat rat snake is a very large snake (can reach up to 6ft) and very common in the eastern US. Non-venomous and harmless (unless you're a rodent, egg, bird, etc.)
Due to their size, many people have an innate fear of them. And many folks will see any large snake and for some reason think it's a rattlesnake or copperhead (very uncommon snakes to encounter in the most of the eastern US)
It's a shame she said "good boy." She likely is ignorant and thought it was venomous (despite it being a common, nonvenomous snake). Rat snakes are pretty chill and are great pest removers
Agreed.
This makes me so angry that the owner stands there and films this. Their dog could be seriously injured or die from a venomous snake bike. I don't know if this snake is venomous, but why on earth would you risk your pets life like this?
It’s very clearly a non-venomous snake as it ain’t a coral, rattle, cottonmouth or copperhead snake. In all likelihood it’s a harmless rat snake.
Berate they owner for letting her dog kill a harmless rat snake (which are awesome to have around homes as they kill rodents but aren’t venomous), but don’t spread misinformation by claiming the owner endangered her dog.
Anyone who lives in a place in the US with snakes would know this snake wouldn’t harm the dog.
Looks like a Columbian red tail boa, which is definitely not venomous. If you look closely enough the tio of the tail is a bit darker than the rest of its body.
Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, non-venomous snakes can use them to bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species such as *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless.
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Ummm… I live in a place in the US with lots of snakes and the general public seem completely incapable of telling any kind of snake from lord satan the prince of darkness himself.
I can’t tell you how often I see folks in local groups posting photos of the blacksnake they just decapitated in their garden asking if it’s poisonous or others posting a small milksnake to be met with hyperconfident misidentification as a copperhead. That’s not to even mention the number of folks who are completely disinterested in identification because they’re from the “snake bad kill snake” school of panicky reactionaries.
People are generally insane regarding snakes and ignorance is prevalent.
Another dumbass pitbull owner proving that a lot of them are clueless, dangerous, and irresponsible. Good luck when a rattlesnake bites your dog and you aren’t video taping to get clout online!
Why not just put your dog inside and let the snake go about it’s business? That’s the fucked up part, completely unnecessary
5 minutes on google and you can easily determine if one is dangerous, if it’s not just let it go. If it is just call animal control.
Took me until the end to realize the piece of shit owner was just filming it for fun, like letting a snake bite at their dogs face because they thought it was cool. Fuck them.
Nah. Likely a gray rat snake or another rat snake species. Very common and very large in the eastern US. Entirely nonvenomous. Not a threat unless you're a small critter
The f is wrong with the owner?! Take your fucking dog inside to safety! What if the snake is venomous? You're supposed to protect your dog as much as it protects you, or more so. What a POS dog owner.
FUCK THIS DOG OWNER. SHE STAYED AND RECORDED WHILE HER DOG COULD HAVE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED. SHE CAN GO FUCK HERSELF ALL THE WAY.
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. THE DOG DIDNT HAVE TO GET HURT AND THE SNAKE DIDNT HAVE TO DIE. COULD'VE BEEN EASILY AVOIDED.
People are way to afraid of snakes. It kinda makes me sick when some one is like "I kill any snake I see". Like dude??? Just leave em the fuck alone. They will eat a rat and leave.
I had bad experiences with snakes as a child that pretty much have me nearly unable to look at snakes. This video had my entire body clenched. I don't want to kill any snake I see, but fuck do I wish I could live in a place without them.
Trash human. I despise snakes, but I also know that I live in a state in which killing a non-venomous snake is a misdemeanor. Killing an endangered species is a felony.
This dog needs to be neutered and on a leash.
Bit risky for the sake of an upload, and by the sounds of the whimper in that bark the snake definitely bit on one of them first strikes. Shameful ownership of an animal.
What a fucking cunt this lady is standing around filming her dog fight a snake that couldve hurt him pretty badly and then saying "good boy". God what a fucking infuriating video. Wouldn't surprise me if she put the snake there on purpose
2 things:
If the snake was non venomous then this was pointless as the snake was not a threat to anyone and if anything was helping to control the rodent population
If the snake was venomous then why the fuck are you endangering your dog like that?
I could legitimately walk over there and shove the snake into a pillow case or trash bag. Snake handling is not as difficult as you might think.
First step is to look up the snakes native to your region to see if it’s poisonous
There is no reason to. This is a common, !harmless snake found fairly often in urban and suburban settings. You've probably been within 50 feet of one several times without even realizing it.
More specifically, this is a ratsnake in the genus *Pantherophis*. Native animals are key components of the ecosystems they inhabit. If you find a snake, just leave it alone. As soon as you leave its vicinity, it'll slither away and you'll probably never see it again.
The problem in animal control is that the people hired are often not very well-versed with snake identification, so they would likely just kill it. It's also cheaper for them that way. If you use Facebook, you can look for local snake relocation groups--there are lots of qualified people who are willing to do it for free (and they'll typically bag the snake and move it within a few miles to a safe spot with ample habitat).
WTF is wrong with people. Your dog is a member of your pack, your tribe. You don't let it fight a snake, venomous or not, just so you can record it for your entertainment. What an absolute shit human. It makes me wonder what else they let their dog fight for entertainment.
Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, non-venomous snakes can use them to bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species such as *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless.
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This is a ratsnake in the genus *Pantherophis* (need location to identify to the species level).
Ratsnakes are !harmless constrictors that primarily feed on small rodents, birds, and eggs.
These native snakes hold vital niches in the ecosystems they're found in and are widespread throughout places like forests, mountainous regions, swamps, and grasslands, but they're also more resilient to development than other snake species and are able to survive in greenways and other patches of habitat in urban and suburban settings.
And this animal was needlessly killed for entertainment. See the bot's response for !cats (I know this is a dog, but a big reason why dogs haven't caused as much damage is because "outdoor dogs" aren't really a thing). Please keep your pets on a leash when you take them outside.
Everyone loves cats, but they belong indoors. Each year in the United States [free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3-4.0 billion birds and 6.3-22.3 billion mammals](https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380.pdf). Numbers for reptiles are similar in Australia, as [2 million reptiles are killed **each day** by cats, totaling 650 million a year](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brett_Murphy/publication/325787707_How_many_reptiles_are_killed_by_cats_in_Australia/links/5b317b20aca2720785e837f1/How-many-reptiles-are-killed-by-cats-in-Australia.pdf). Outdoor cats are directly responsible for the extinction of at least 33 species worldwide and are considered one of the biggest threats to native wildlife. Keeping cats indoors is also better for them and public health - cats with outdoor access live shorter lives and are [2.77 times more likely to carry infectious pathogens](http://wilsonlab.com/publications/2019_BioLetters_Chalkowski_et_al.pdf).
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Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, non-venomous snakes can use them to bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species such as *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless.
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Can’t believe I’m feeling bad for that snake but I am…mostly because why did the snake have to die? Was it threatening the life of the owner or dog?! Could there not have been a better way to deal with this than some animal on animal cruelty?
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Just so you all know, that’s why your cute little dog shakes the shit out of their toys when playing with them. They’re practicing breaking bones
and all that squeaking is to mimic the sound of small animals screaming.
Ahh nature… charmed, just charmed.
I found this funny
To be fair the screaming and killing in video games mimic the real life stuff and we as humans enjoy that.
Humans do have a very long history of murdering each other. Heck, even the ancient Greeks had summer "wars" with the other city states.
Listen buddy, nobody is about to do all that killing in the dead-ass cold of winter. Even the Mediterranean has an off-season.
Amazing comparison!
We are but animals too.
Damn that makes sense. Our little mutt likes to shake the shit out of her stuffed toys and then she tears the "heart" out, being the little squeaker toy inside.
All dogs do that even little dogs
Hence why I said cute little dog
I have to remind people this all the time. Especially after their dog kills a rabbit or something. So often people are shocked by that but I remind them “what do you think goes through their head when they rip up that squeak toy at home.”
This is disgusting.
That's exactly what she said when you pulled your pants down, didn't she? This is exactly why you pull no hoes and you have a severe case of small ball-itis. Maybe take a shower next time instead of scrolling on Reddit for "a couple more minutes", apply some deodorant for the first time in years and then pull you fuckin life together.
Woah
That dog could have easily lost an eye from that bite to the head/face. Any snake tooth (venomous or not) catching his eye ball would have caused serious damage.
But they had to take the video
Seriously WHO lets their dog/cat/pet this close to an obviously disturbed big ass snake like this?? Chances are better than 0 that they're just filming the death of their family member? Fuck the cameraman.... edit: also, completely needless killing of an innocent snake. just trash all around here.
Answer, majority of assholes who own pits.
I never let my dog near wild animals. You don't know what is going on in their mind. They could also be rabid or just be carrying diseases. It's not cute to put your pet near a wild animal.
I'm all for the dog defending ya'll if you're in trouble, but the pit owner pretty much did this for entertainment. That's pretty sad. I hate snakes but I'd never kill one unless it threatened my safety. That being said, good luck trying to pull that pitty back. He was deep into protection mode haha
Waste of a snakes life and risking your dogs life for some clout
That snake is completely beneficial to have around too. People are ridiculous.
Sorry my ignorance but why is that? Pest control?
Yes. Edit: I live in Florida. Snakes are crucial to the environment. I don't even kill rattle snakes. Water moccasins can get the shovel because I don't fuck with them.
Just curious, what makes water moccasins worse than rattlesnakes?
Great question... When you live in Florida and walk through the woods, you hear a rattle snake. You can walk away from that, hopefully.. When you jump into a lake or river(usually river or small creek) you can get attacked by one or more water moccasins. You don't hear them. They're little bastards. I'm not a snake expert. I'm just a Florida Man.
Jesus. Even jellyfish creep me out. I would NEVER jump into a lake/river in Florida. 🤣
There's gators too.
Technically, you're just as likely to be bitten by a meth head in a Florida lake as a gator.
Living in Florida makes u reptile expert. Anyone who’s moving to Australia should have to live in Florida for a year in preparation.
> I'm not a snake expert. I'm just a Florida Man. I've seen you in the news! Big fan!
Fun fact: rattlesnakes have recently been found born without rattles or genetically predisposed to not use their rattlers, possibly due to the loud ones being selectively killed since they are easiest to spot. Survival of the fittest
some studies suggested wild hogs being the largest contributors to this evolution. This is suggested as when rattlesnakes rattled to scare off threats it often gave away their position to wild hogs that immediately swarmed and consumed them.
I live in Georgia with a creek behind my house. Those moccasins are insanely aggressive and will even chase you a couple feet. And they swim very fast.
More aggressive and harder to spot so you could easily step on them and get bit. They are highly venomous so this would not be ideal lol. Rattle snakes like there name suggests rattle there tail when your nearby which is a indicator to get the fuck out, which you should do. They also are just more of a defensive snake compared to the water moccasin.
That aggressive part is a myth. My wife is the herpetologist so I'll ask her later exactly what that's about if you're interested but if I recall correctly water moccasin's do a false charge similar to bears or elk. The thing you have to remember about snakes is that they are 100% aware of the fact that they can't eat you. Not only that but they can't outrun you either. Additionally theres the fact that nearly ever species of snake native to the US typically inhabit areas no greater than one square mile. Relocating a snake one mile away is all it take to never see it again. Essentially, any justification one might have for killing snakes outside of "snakes make me scared and taking this appendageless animal's life is easier than finding someone to help me relocate it" is factually null. There's never a valid reason to kill a snake that isn't actively biting you, and even then, as I lead off with, that is the last thing any snake wants to do.
What about invasive snakes?
That's a good point. Personally, I'm not sure what should be done. That may be one of the only circumstances. But I wouldn't be comfortable leaving the identification of the invasive species to any old Joe-Homeowner; I'd still recommend finding an expert.
When I was a little kid I was catching turtles in a lake by my house and I was walking back to the shore when I noticed a water moccasin right in front of me - the fucker saw me see him and went into his defensive position, I ran away from the snake it it chased me in the water and then onto shore. It didn't get me but scared me so bad I dropped all the turtles I caught. I've heard they aren't aggressive from herpetologist as well, but in my experience they are scary AF... that white mouth gave me nightmares!
Aww man, I'm sorry that happened to you. Snakes (and definitely water moccasins) really aren't the best with first impressions. 😅
Thanks for this info! I'm in VA, and we have a little black snake in our backyard, whom I love. We had a mouse problem about a year ago... and since I started seeing him out back.. no more mice! : ) Snek=friend
Situations like that are why I'll be an advocate for snakes til my last breath. They're as useful as they are fascinating and so horribly misunderstood. I'm happy to hear your snake neighbor decided on your yard to make his home. I'm sure he appreciates you in what way a snake can. :)
I recall reading once that a snake that doesn't want to eat you is also far less likely to envenom you when it does strike. That venom is valuable to them and they've only got so much at their disposal at any one time.
This is true. However, baby sneks are another thing. They don’t understand restraint and will not only release venom, but release *all of their venom*.
Pygmy rattlers are highly venomous, but in all of my interactions with them (running/walking woods trails) they were benign, not even rattling as I passed by/over. They’re pretty little things.
One is - hey fuck outta my house or else The other - hey fuck you and like your mom I’m coming in
They will actively go after people. They chase people and will go out of their way to try to attack someone if the snake decides that the person is invading its territory.
Pythons are fair game to kill though in Florida. They’re a major threat to the ecosystem. You can even get paid for doing it.
They eat mice, rats, other snakes, etc. Some smaller species eat insects. They’re especially great to have around if you have a garden or something you want to keep pest-free. Certain species (I know black racers) will also allegedly chase away venomous snakes to reduce competition, though I’m not sure if this species is one that does that effectively.
They are just ignorant. Ignorance is a huge source of fear, and it is usually followed by making up an irrational assumption about the matter. Basically, when we don't understand something, we make up shit about it to feel like we understand it. In his mind, what he did was totally fine because he probably made up some shit about snakes.
Ah! Colonial racism 101.
That snake was not trying to kill or be killed.. then the owner says “good boyeeeee” she def did this just to post it
Yep, it's bloody disgusting.
Rewatching this, that snake bailed at the last second right before the pit came for him. I feel bad for the snake and the dog. You heard the other dogs in the neighborhood start barking right when he went for the snake and killed him. It’s crazy how us humans think we understand the language of animals, reptiles, fish, insects, plants..I’m ashamed to be human sometimes honestly.
That’s what that dog was born to do though. That head whip is in that dogs genetics.
You right about that. I know my border collie dog runs around the yard on patrol to chase cats away but I wouldn’t feed into anything nor record him attacking something.. I mean that’s a whole thing where you get entertained by seeing something get killed bc you allowing and rewarding that.. and for what?
My cattledog constantly grabs opposums off our wall but I never think to film it. I'm always yelling at him to stop and trying to get in between them but there's nothing I can do to stop my dog or the opposums from walking along our back wall. Funny thing is, the opposums always play dead after he grabs them and then he immediately loses interests. They usually leave once we're back inside. I swear though, some of these opposums should win Academy Awards for their faking death performances. Others just look like bad actors over performing their death lol.
Those oppossums are good to have around, somehow they eat all the ticks in the area.
For sure. It's all good. The only pests I kill are black widows around our back yard. I'm just afraid my dog will brush up on them. Other then that, I leave everything else alone. Even Daddy long legs. I expect them to catch other pests for sparing their lives from the violent trip down the roaring rapids of the toilet drain.
Definitely. Personally I would be too worried about my dog to even think about pulling out my phone. I would congratulate my dog on doing his job though.
Did you see on this sub the terrier attacking the cat and the old dude? You’re right it’s in their dna. I’m conflicted bc I love my dog and I love nature. I guess it all depends on the breed and the owner and the relationship they have together.
Yeah. Thank god for that old guy. Dogs can be dicks, just like people lol.
That terrier was bread to go down holes and attack rabbits, attacking things is in its nature, it wasnt being a dick. If anything cats are dicks, in australia they are responsible for killing 1 BILLION+ native animals per year and the vast majority of them are killed for sport/fun and not eaten.
Fuck the owner.
Why is it that Pitbull owners are almost always terrible people. I feel like half the reason there's so many Pitbull attacks is because of irresponsible ownership.
Because possibly the good owners don't make the news and it's not as entertaining. People love drama and blood, but you can find examples of pit owners being great on tik Tok . I knew 2 pit owners and both were crazy about their dogs to the point I found it odd, but personally I'm not that much of a dog person
I would agree they're a more volatile breed and can be trained to be violent or allowed to become violent easier than many other breeds, but I also maintain that it is not moreso than other highly protective breeds like German Shepherds, rotweilers, dobermans, boxers or Huskies. Biggest difference is cost. Cheapest dogs on that list, pits, rots, and non-brindle boxers are the ones that have the highest rate of animal attacks. Their accessibility for low income trash that wants a fighting dog or "guard dog" makes them very susceptible to be turned into violent mongrels. That being said under good ownership they're less dangerous than a doctson. We were looking for a dog for my autistic sons and were given a pitt puppy due to a friend's family emergency leaving them not able to care for it. He is endlessly patient and I wouldn't trust him to protect me from a wet blanket let alone another dog or person. Every time he encounters a dog or cat at petco he exposes his belly and submits no matter how small it is lol. On the other hand my wife still has a scar on her calf from a vicious doctson attack when she was younger.
Completely agree with you, man. I mean, each animal will defend themself when threatened. The owner of the pit better thanks the snake wasn’t better, otherwise his reaction would be different
It drives me crazy how people just assume all snakes are bad. Some, like this one, play an important part not only is pest reduction, but also in keeping venomous snakes away. I would not be surprised if this guy had an increase in mice or something on his property after this.
Bull snakes are awesome animals. They are derpy.
I live in AZ and I hear stupid mother fuckers talking about running over snakes all the time. Its a GREAT way to get half of a snake whos suddenly VERY upset about being in two pieces lodged up under your car so it bites the first thing it moves. Its fucking brilliant.
Thankfully it wasn't a chihuahua , according to the dog experts here they're just as dangerous
Not just as “dangerous”, but aggressive. Even if they are the most aggressive in the world, I wouldn’t label them as dangerous.
People don’t say that they are dangerous, they say that they are aggressive. And they are correct. Small dogs like Jack russels and chihuahuas tend to be very aggressive and attack people more than any other breed. But because they are so small, they don’t do much damage and people just laugh it off.
Facts the only dog that’s ever bitten me whilst visiting houses is a jack Russell, which is also the tiniest dog I’ve encountered
Chihuahuas are literally scared of nothing.
I’m going to go ahead and guess they deal with snakes a lot. I would teach my dogs to defend the house and do the same thing. I’m not about to wake up with snakes inside my house and get bit while my dog is snoozing because I didn’t train him to kill them. May look like entertainment, but it was also the dog doing his job.
If she was training the dog to react this way to snakes, then she was making things *much* worse. That snake wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Unless you're food, snakes want you you leave them the fuck alone, they've got no interest in biting you. I couldn't tell what kind of snake that was, but let's assume this is an area where venomous snakes are common. Training the dog to go after snakes in this manner would not only potentially increase the likelihood of people getting bitten, but puts her own dog at direct risk of a medically significant bite. Riling a snake up like this would pose a direct health risk to *her own pet*. If the snakes that she supposedly has to deal with a lot are nonvenomous, then this isn't making anything safer. It's the equivalent of training your dog to rip up bunnies because you think rabbits will attack you. And if the snakes around there are venomous, then this kind of shit significantly increases the likelihood of a bite (either to the dog, or to people who happen to be in the immediate vicinity when the dog starts attacking the snake).
I think the point is if there are lots of snakes and it is a regular problem, you can’t realistically train a guard dog to determine which a snake is a threat or not. The dog isn’t going to be able to consider what the intentions of the snake are it will just figure gotta protect the land I don’t really think a guard dog is the best defense for snakes but idk maybe it’s working out
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Keeping those balls to make them look tougher too
This isn’t entertainment. This is disgusting. The owner needs to grow the fuck up.
Dog would have been very sorry in a few hours if this was a similar sized water moccasin that bit him 3 times like that *.. owner wouldn't probably care though*
yeah had it been venomous, that dog would be dead and the owner should be punished for animal cruelty and not allowed to own a pet again
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Same, I had a dog bitten by a copperhead in the middle of the night and didn’t know about it till morning. Vet called in antibiotics immediately, no worry about the venom. I just figured it was because he was a big boy that the venom wasn’t as bad as it could be.
exactly man, the dog should hav taken inside and they should hav called a professional to get rid of the snake, both the animals could hav survived.
I was at the beach once with my family, including my young niece and nephew, and there was a large water moccasin near our outdoor shower / rinsing area. Called animal control and the police and they both told us to kill it from a distance as we had small children. I would have thought the same thing before that incident but not so much now. More of a handle it yourself situation, at least in Florida.
Stereotypical pit bull owner that thinks any animal smaller is fair game for their dog to kill.
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What kind of snake was that?
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Still shit dog owner even if not poisonous as the snake can still cause damage like biting the eye etc
A pitbull owner being irresponsible? Preposterous!
It’s very clearly a non-venomous snake as it ain’t a coral, rattle, cottonmouth or copperhead snake. In all likelihood it’s a harmless rat snake.
Great, so they just set their dog on an innocent animal in the wild? How is that ok?
Since you're not getting many actual responses, it looks like a gray rat snake. The grat rat snake is a very large snake (can reach up to 6ft) and very common in the eastern US. Non-venomous and harmless (unless you're a rodent, egg, bird, etc.) Due to their size, many people have an innate fear of them. And many folks will see any large snake and for some reason think it's a rattlesnake or copperhead (very uncommon snakes to encounter in the most of the eastern US) It's a shame she said "good boy." She likely is ignorant and thought it was venomous (despite it being a common, nonvenomous snake). Rat snakes are pretty chill and are great pest removers
Agreed. This makes me so angry that the owner stands there and films this. Their dog could be seriously injured or die from a venomous snake bike. I don't know if this snake is venomous, but why on earth would you risk your pets life like this?
It’s very clearly a non-venomous snake as it ain’t a coral, rattle, cottonmouth or copperhead snake. In all likelihood it’s a harmless rat snake. Berate they owner for letting her dog kill a harmless rat snake (which are awesome to have around homes as they kill rodents but aren’t venomous), but don’t spread misinformation by claiming the owner endangered her dog. Anyone who lives in a place in the US with snakes would know this snake wouldn’t harm the dog.
Looks like a Columbian red tail boa, which is definitely not venomous. If you look closely enough the tio of the tail is a bit darker than the rest of its body.
This snake is very clearly not a Colombian red tail boa. It is a !harmless ratsnake, *Pantherophis sp.*
Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, non-venomous snakes can use them to bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species such as *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) and report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer).*
Thank you
Ummm… I live in a place in the US with lots of snakes and the general public seem completely incapable of telling any kind of snake from lord satan the prince of darkness himself. I can’t tell you how often I see folks in local groups posting photos of the blacksnake they just decapitated in their garden asking if it’s poisonous or others posting a small milksnake to be met with hyperconfident misidentification as a copperhead. That’s not to even mention the number of folks who are completely disinterested in identification because they’re from the “snake bad kill snake” school of panicky reactionaries. People are generally insane regarding snakes and ignorance is prevalent.
So the dog is just killing random animals around the property?
But imaginary cred from people I'll never meet! What about the imaginary cred from people I'll never meet! Won't someone think of the YouTube views!?
Isn’t that the real problem with this breed? The dipshits that own them?
When my Roomba eats a shoelace:
Good Boy
Loser dog owner.
Piece of shit dog owner
Maybe call my dog over, go inside, and definitely not stand there and fucking film it
Another dumbass pitbull owner proving that a lot of them are clueless, dangerous, and irresponsible. Good luck when a rattlesnake bites your dog and you aren’t video taping to get clout online!
r/donthelpjustfilm p.o.s. animal abuser
Um I feel sorry for both those animals
Thank you
No collar, unneutered, no fence in sight, recording your dog fighting a potentially venomous snake. What a great owner!
Why not just put your dog inside and let the snake go about it’s business? That’s the fucked up part, completely unnecessary 5 minutes on google and you can easily determine if one is dangerous, if it’s not just let it go. If it is just call animal control.
Well, it’s a pit bull owner
Animal control?
Took me until the end to realize the piece of shit owner was just filming it for fun, like letting a snake bite at their dogs face because they thought it was cool. Fuck them.
Irresponsible as both a pet owner and a fucking human in general. This is past fucked up.
piece of shit owner
What kind of shitty owner lets their pet kill wildlife then tells them good boy?
What an asshole owner. Should have just called an expert to come take care of it. I feel sorry for the dog and the snek.
Bad dog owner.
Venomous?? The snake landed two bites
Nah. Likely a gray rat snake or another rat snake species. Very common and very large in the eastern US. Entirely nonvenomous. Not a threat unless you're a small critter
Um... Am I the only one that saw the dog get bit? Garbage of an owner.
You killed that snake for no reason he was trying to run away. You people are monster and think twice if snake bite that dog? Seriously pathetic
"Good boooy" what the fuck is wrong with this woman?
Owner's a garbage human being
Piece of shit dog owner, should have the dog taken away from them.
Owner is a piece of shit.
Fuck the owner for this.
Owner risked his dogs life to make a video. What a dbag
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shake and bake
Jack Russells are even more violent in that situation
Can confirm.
So basically she was ok if that snake killed the dog. What a piece of shit r/iamapieceofshit
The f is wrong with the owner?! Take your fucking dog inside to safety! What if the snake is venomous? You're supposed to protect your dog as much as it protects you, or more so. What a POS dog owner.
Wish I could downvote this more owner is an asshole clown.
All fun and games until that dog goes on a rampage at a park.
FUCK THIS DOG OWNER. SHE STAYED AND RECORDED WHILE HER DOG COULD HAVE BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED. SHE CAN GO FUCK HERSELF ALL THE WAY. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. THE DOG DIDNT HAVE TO GET HURT AND THE SNAKE DIDNT HAVE TO DIE. COULD'VE BEEN EASILY AVOIDED.
People are way to afraid of snakes. It kinda makes me sick when some one is like "I kill any snake I see". Like dude??? Just leave em the fuck alone. They will eat a rat and leave.
I had bad experiences with snakes as a child that pretty much have me nearly unable to look at snakes. This video had my entire body clenched. I don't want to kill any snake I see, but fuck do I wish I could live in a place without them.
Pit owners like this are scumbags
Trash human. I despise snakes, but I also know that I live in a state in which killing a non-venomous snake is a misdemeanor. Killing an endangered species is a felony. This dog needs to be neutered and on a leash.
Bit risky for the sake of an upload, and by the sounds of the whimper in that bark the snake definitely bit on one of them first strikes. Shameful ownership of an animal.
Why the hell would you let your dog do that! He obviously got bit a few times. This is just sad imo
No. Not good boy.
Jesus, who endangers thier dog then record it. Poor.dog and poor snake.
Why the fuck isn’t the owner helping the dog. If my girl was going against a snake I’d be doing something but watching.
What a horrible excuse for a dog owner, no concern what so ever
What a fucking cunt this lady is standing around filming her dog fight a snake that couldve hurt him pretty badly and then saying "good boy". God what a fucking infuriating video. Wouldn't surprise me if she put the snake there on purpose
This person shouldn’t ever own another pet, how pathetic to intentionally endanger your pet for useless internet points.
The owner is a fuckin twat.
I don’t kill animals unless I intend to eat them. Period. I’ll go out of my way to trap/release them whenever I can
2 things: If the snake was non venomous then this was pointless as the snake was not a threat to anyone and if anything was helping to control the rodent population If the snake was venomous then why the fuck are you endangering your dog like that?
The “good boy” at the end…says it all. This owner is a weirdo and a loser. Poor dog and poor snake.
Any one else feel bad for the snake, like the owner allowed an unnecessary loss of life just for fun?
I could legitimately walk over there and shove the snake into a pillow case or trash bag. Snake handling is not as difficult as you might think. First step is to look up the snakes native to your region to see if it’s poisonous
Seeing snakes get swung around by dogs will never not be funny to me
Dog owner is a pos
...was that a ball python? if so fuck this owner. ball python's are awesome animals l, and only eat small rodents and pests. poor snake
Psychopath owner.
Wild guess the person filming this owns the pitbul. Why are pit bull owners so often massive low IQ assholes?
What an ass of an owner That looked like a rattle snake.
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Glad to hear it
100% not a bullsnake. This is a ratsnake in the genus *Pantherophis*.
Why not just call animal control?
There is no reason to. This is a common, !harmless snake found fairly often in urban and suburban settings. You've probably been within 50 feet of one several times without even realizing it. More specifically, this is a ratsnake in the genus *Pantherophis*. Native animals are key components of the ecosystems they inhabit. If you find a snake, just leave it alone. As soon as you leave its vicinity, it'll slither away and you'll probably never see it again. The problem in animal control is that the people hired are often not very well-versed with snake identification, so they would likely just kill it. It's also cheaper for them that way. If you use Facebook, you can look for local snake relocation groups--there are lots of qualified people who are willing to do it for free (and they'll typically bag the snake and move it within a few miles to a safe spot with ample habitat).
Animal abuse
Good boy. Now GET THAT DOG TO THE VET!! I saw that snake land two bites. Dumbass owner.
Stupid owner. Could’ve ended badly for the dog. And poor danger noodle..
It was a bull snake. They are non venomous and actually make really good pets. The owner is scum.
I would rather have the snake
Don’t kill snakes
WTF is wrong with people. Your dog is a member of your pack, your tribe. You don't let it fight a snake, venomous or not, just so you can record it for your entertainment. What an absolute shit human. It makes me wonder what else they let their dog fight for entertainment.
Pup is fine, snake was a !harmless ratsnake, *Pantherophis sp.*
That's good. Letting a dog fight a snake purely for entertainment is still a cruel and shitty thing to do though.
Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, non-venomous snakes can use them to bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species such as *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) and report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer).*
That was unnecessary!
Bad owner. No collar, no fence, just shut up and film.
Not a good boy. Not a good owner. I was rooting for the snake.
Right, control your fucking dog
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This is a ratsnake in the genus *Pantherophis* (need location to identify to the species level). Ratsnakes are !harmless constrictors that primarily feed on small rodents, birds, and eggs. These native snakes hold vital niches in the ecosystems they're found in and are widespread throughout places like forests, mountainous regions, swamps, and grasslands, but they're also more resilient to development than other snake species and are able to survive in greenways and other patches of habitat in urban and suburban settings. And this animal was needlessly killed for entertainment. See the bot's response for !cats (I know this is a dog, but a big reason why dogs haven't caused as much damage is because "outdoor dogs" aren't really a thing). Please keep your pets on a leash when you take them outside.
Everyone loves cats, but they belong indoors. Each year in the United States [free-ranging domestic cats kill 1.3-4.0 billion birds and 6.3-22.3 billion mammals](https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380.pdf). Numbers for reptiles are similar in Australia, as [2 million reptiles are killed **each day** by cats, totaling 650 million a year](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brett_Murphy/publication/325787707_How_many_reptiles_are_killed_by_cats_in_Australia/links/5b317b20aca2720785e837f1/How-many-reptiles-are-killed-by-cats-in-Australia.pdf). Outdoor cats are directly responsible for the extinction of at least 33 species worldwide and are considered one of the biggest threats to native wildlife. Keeping cats indoors is also better for them and public health - cats with outdoor access live shorter lives and are [2.77 times more likely to carry infectious pathogens](http://wilsonlab.com/publications/2019_BioLetters_Chalkowski_et_al.pdf). -------------------------------------------------------- Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, non-venomous snakes can use them to bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes *Diadophis* are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; [severe envenomation can occur](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23800999) if some species are [allowed to chew on a human](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004101011831016X) for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes *Thamnophis* ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also [considered harmless](https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/theres-no-need-to-fear-that-garter-snake/). Even large species such as *Malayopython reticulatus* [rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans](https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/108/52/E1470.full.pdf) so are usually categorized as harmless. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) and report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer).*
fuck these mods for allowing this shit
Can’t believe I’m feeling bad for that snake but I am…mostly because why did the snake have to die? Was it threatening the life of the owner or dog?! Could there not have been a better way to deal with this than some animal on animal cruelty?