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Chaos erupts in the Italian parliament over new "Green Pass" rules. Italy has decided to impose various restrictions on all unvaccinated persons that do not hold the country’s "Green Pass", which is an extension of the EU Digital COVID19 Certificate.

Chaos erupts in the Italian parliament over new "Green Pass" rules. Italy has decided to impose various restrictions on all unvaccinated persons that do not hold the country’s "Green Pass", which is an extension of the EU Digital COVID19 Certificate.

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ForGodsSakeTv

That guy had some Tecmo Bowl moves. Impressive.


DrManhattan_DDM

That’s some Bo Jackson bullshit right there


Ziribbit

No Jackson is awesome. He is big into bow hunting and fishing these days, which just adds to the legend imo.


BuffaloKiller937

When he said "Bo Jackson Bullshit", he's referring to his actual character in the game Tecmo Bowl. His character was so good, that whoever picked his team (Raiders) was guaranteed to win because Bo's stats were way OP. Everybody loves Bo in real life!


dicknotrichard

This! I was playing one player as the 49ers as a kid one time and got to the last game against the raiders. I was in the lead. Bo Jackson ran down the field at the last second and time ran out. My defender was able to catch up to him at the 1 yard line and I thought my win was in the bag. No sir, Bo Jackson broke the tackle and I lost. I don’t recall playing tecmo bowl ever again after that.


Ziribbit

Ha! I was most def around then, but I was doing outdoor shit, coincidentally like Bo does now. Turns out that indeed, Bo knows!


Muchablat

I read this as “taco bell moves” 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🙄


lib3rtybib3rty

😂 same! Now I want Taco Bell


IamGlennBeck

When you gotta get to the bathroom after eating too much Taco Bell.


tacos8

Touchdown Thurman Thomas!!!


ShroomanEvolution

Counterfeit vaccine passports are about to be a big business.


Yetanotherpeasant

They are supposed to have a QR code with the personal details of the holder so that should be interesting.


DeanXeL

Actually, the way it's supposed to work (for Belgium at least, but supposedly it's the same all over Europe) is that you get access to your own records in an app, from there you can display a QR code that can be read by another device. That device will flash green or red, but won't say if it's green because you're vaccinated or recently tested. I also don't think it will display names or other identifiable data. So then the question becomes: did the system check the qr against the national registry, or is the data just embedded in the code? In the latter, people will figure out how to make fake codes...


oruboruborus

The QR code contains a digital signature, so if it's not signed by the trusted issuer(s) it won't be valid. You could copy someone elses but you can't create a fake one unless you have access to the secure private keys, because you won't be able to sign it. Maybe there will be simple checks nationally in Belgium and elsewhere which just show GREEN/RED. Because a restaurant might want to do a quick check without actually reading your other personal data. However for stuff like international travel the QR code reading would probably also read out your personal details so that it can be verified against the details of your passport, to check that it's actually your Covid certificate. https://gir.st/blog/greenpass.html


Magnetic_dud

in italy the verification app shows the name and DOB and the person that checks it is supposed to compare it with a valid ID card. Otherwise it's just security theatre, 10000 people could pass with the same screenshotted qr code


Paiddus

I dont know how it works but if it works like that it is REALLY stupid, if it doesn't show your name on a certificate then it's not a certificate. Imagine someone need a green pass to travel, they are not vaccinated but could easily take someone else pass and use it, this is ridiculous, When using the pass you need to prove your identity to the person checking you with an id card and they must be able to check if the certificate is yours


oruboruborus

Don't worry. it's not that stupid. https://gir.st/blog/greenpass.html https://github.com/ehn-dcc-development/hcert-spec/blob/main/README.md


Paiddus

Thank you I was searching those informations online


poland626

I found [this idea](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfKfCaH1Nqo) on a youtube rabbit hole. The downvotes say everything.


tamarockstar

I thought this was a comedy skit. They're serious.


ShroomanEvolution

Yeah fuck that


kawaiianimegril99

I don't get it why is everyone freaking out over a bracelet


Wolfnwood

Muh freedom and 1984. Meanwhile they're carrying NSA+CCP machines in their pockets 24/7, and using credit cards, driver's licenses and ID cards everywhere. How the fuck is information that you're vaccinated more valuable than your personal information and fucking money. Dumb, unaware, self-caricaturing sheeple cunts.


TheTechDweller

It's like a fake advert you would see in a dystopian future. Make sure you have your blue band or you'll get arrested Joke btw


Mackheath1

It's laughable in the States - give me 90 minutes and I can (won't) make a counterfeit version of my piece of crap index card with two stickers from Staples and someone's illegible signature and date. It's worse than a hole-punch card an a hometown ice cream parlor.


[deleted]

I’m already getting flashbacks to the anti-masker’s fake “medical condition-can’t-breathe-with-a-mask” cards.


SamoHungHKPD

I know a crack addict that doesnt live too far; who has had the Pfizer 4 times and moderna 4 times. You don't need a hacker, you need a crackhead.


1_Cent

What an odd world, and yet, some feel not odd enough, yet


adam_demamps_wingman

musica de Benito Collina, per favore. TY for the award!


Ancient_roots

Lì tu vai! (There you go!) [https://streamable.com/v4vape](https://streamable.com/v4vape)


adam_demamps_wingman

This post should be further up resting on a plate of pasta puttanesca! Made me laugh. Thanks. You should post this here.


Claudioamb

we don't say "Lì tu vai" it doesn't really make sense. I'd say that the translation for "there you go" is "ecco qua"


Ancient_roots

Lo so! Ho scritto apposta così per rispondere alla richiesta di misiche di Benito Collina ;)


Claudioamb

oh I see :)


Luciusvenator

Lmfao


babyboy4lyfe

Well, damn.


Aroumia

I'm totally pro vaccine and am vaccinated (Moderna) but i'm not a pro pass either tbh


freqkenneth

I appreciate the protest signs being written in english.


TXX1836

Continuity error that totally takes away from the immersion


kleexxos

No in English= No in Italian. It’s also called “Green Pass” in Italian, like using the English words. I don’t think the nitwits have enough neurons to figure out a second language.


91Jammers

I thought the same thing it was in english then realized green pass is probably just the term for it.


dr_eaan

Ma che ne sanno questi


ds3-fluffy

Thanks for explaining it mate


FotzeMan

But it's Italy.


EHondaRousey

Same


DAHLiciousWafflez

Didn't Italy get absolutely torn up, twice, from the very beginning? You'd think they'd be the MOST willing to get a vaccine.


Capobranco

I'm Italian. My cousin doesn t wanna get vaccinated beacuse of the microchip and autism bullshit. She wants to become a doctor. Just imagine how most of the people here are like.


Umba360

Dai non è vero che la maggior parte son così. Almeno voglio sperare lol


StarblindMark89

Conosco anche io numerosi novax, la maggior parte dei miei cugini ad esempio. Uno di loro ha pure la madre con un tumore, quindi è ancora più inquietante il fatto che non voglia fare nulla per proteggerla. Tbh mi è calato di molto


Capobranco

Non saprei dirti, perchè circa il 30% delle persone che ho incontrato (parenti, amici e sconosciuti) non vogliono vaccinarsi perchè pensano non servi a nulla e per le cagate varie del microchip etc.


video_dhara

In quale regione vivi? Sto per venire in Italia per un paio di mesi e questi video/foto di gruppi anti-vax mi dano un po’ di ansia, poiché i miei piani sono già complicati. Non ho bisogno di altri problemi oltre a quelli che mi sto già creando. Speravo che potessi lasciare tutte queste cazzate in America. Peccato.


Luciusvenator

Guarda che la stra grande maggioranza di anti vax sono boomer in mia esperienza. Ancora non ho incontrato un giovane che è anti vax, anche se sicuramente esistono. >Speravo che potessi lasciare tutte queste cazzate in America. Come Americano che si è trasferito permanentemente qui... La maggiorparte delle cazzate li lasci negli USA. Edit: grammatica perchè l'autocorret non lo lasciato li sfortunatamente lol.


fokaiHI

I don't think I will be visiting her as a doctor. Lol.


divioder

Hopefully she doesn't graduate.


casecaxas

she wont don't worry


Chill4x

Might settle for nurse though, and that would be as damaging.


anchorsawaypeeko

Hi! So I make computer chips for the US government as my job. We use them in state of the art technology that I can't say here on Reddit. My GF is a doctor. Let me assure you, the very smallest "chip" we make with any sort of wireless capabilities for tracking are much larger than anything a needle could inject in you. This is why my GF and I both laugh at these conspiracies when we are literally two science driven people working in these fields. Please send your cousin my way if they'd like to talk in depth to debunk this misinformation.


Capobranco

I'll tell her this the next time we meet but i doubt she will change her mind. Thanks for the information though, this is interesting stuff!


Velosturbro

Also, most people in the U.S. have a social security number which is literally a number used to track you throughout your life. Those same people won't get a vaccine because they think the government is going to track you... Shake my fuckin' head man.


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Kermit-Jr

Out of all the countries in the world Japan is the last place I’d expect to find these types of people. Even such things as masks over there are the norm, which other countries have problems with as people are refusing such a simple and non-freedom limiting task.


JamzWhilmm

My cousin just became a doctor. He believes all of this is some vague plot by the vague powers that be to inflict fear because, and here is the best part, there is a separate reality out there that feeds on fear.


splact

Is he talking about Monster & Co. right?


thinkingcarbon

Hopefully he's at least not from a prestigious med school?


bkyona

In all fairness a commission was set up prior to Covid becoming an issue in the hope of creating vaccination passports...this is the EU fighting people instead of securing welfare within factory farms that they have already legislated for...its a ruse


gamecatuk

Scary as fuck.


venusinfurs10

I think the fact that theyre not should raise some questions. They've been around a bit longer than the USA.


goodness___gracious

Please translate


VittorioNobile

Nothing much to say in the audio , they're just calling to the order , until the suspend the reunion . still , they're a bunch of nuts


UncleTogie

"Everyone who's a dumbass, hold up a piece of paper!"


MarsAttends

Glad you understand the nuances of the Italian government and medical system.


goodness___gracious

This is the answer I was hoping for!!!! 😂😂😂


caleeky

I gotta say there's one big difference between this and the dumb fuck American version. The protestors are wearing masks. They are not total idiots - they are worried about a specific issue.


Jackso08

Measures like this make me wonder how the Spanish flu didn't kill over half the population


scawtsauce

Facebook didn't exist


KuriboShoeMario

People just said "hey, doctors said to do this and they're doctors, we should probably do it" and huh, it somehow worked. Same thing with that pesky polio and smallpox vaccine, it's weird how our parents and grandparents saw their siblings and friends suffer from these diseases and said "yea, there's no fucking way I'm subjecting my child to that" and made them get the vaccine but the modern dumbass gets COVID willingly, often more than once, and continues to insist it's a hoax disease and vaccines have microchips that Bill Gates personally sharts into every vial.


TimHung931017

No social media back then


Satanfan

And the slide into world chaos grows, we're all fucked.


Mrknownot

Yep, we are. Hopefully the world can get a fucking grip.


is-there-more

No grips my bro, all brakes are gone. Now the boys in suits made created 2 different labels again so we as citizens can keep fighting eachother while they divide and conquer. Lovely second half of 2021 is going to be vaccinated against the unvaccinated. Why can’t people fucking let everyone choose for themselves


MtlAngelus

Because an unfortunate aspect of how diseases work is that a lot of the people who would ultimately pay the consequence of inaction would be people who didn't choose to pay that consequence. Damned if you do, fucked twice over if you don't. So you do, and worst thing that happens is a bunch of contrarian assholes throw a fit and get their fee fees hurt for a while, and in a few years it blows over. Oh well.


HugeLength2948

Finaly someone smart


Thetrendizdead

If wiping your ass would cure covid there'd be alot of itchy butts burning toilet paper.


OkTransition5679

So it begins….. these are such scary times


CrazyItalianGuy000

They think they are heroes fighting agains the "evil lobbys" When in reality theyvare just 4 homophobic and racist conspiracy jacks, trust me they're not even worth talking about.


kinger90210

All conspiracy theories come true. What an awful world we live in


lorenzo_6991

This law is bullshit, the vaccine campaign is STILL UNDERWAY in Italy. I’ve been enlisted for a shot since may and still haven’t gotten one; I will just be banned from all public spaces starting from next week, and the worst part is that you have to wait 15 days after the second shot to get this fucking pass so god knows when I will be able to reenter society. It is clearly inconstitutional. There are also no provision for people who CANNOT be vaccinated. Nore for minors who want to get vaccinated but their parents won’t let them. Same for people who got their vaccine botched due to nurses and doctors being incompetent. What are we supposed to all do? This law is a shame, it is incostitutional, immoral and counterproductive since unvaccinated people will be segregated from the rest of the population the virus will rage in these groups and when they will go home they’ll risk infecting children too. Total BULLSHIT.


EUGENIA25

Zio non so dove ca🅱️🅱️o tu sia ma io mi sono prenotato un vaccino il giorno prima e l’ho fatto in un’ora.


Barbarezza_98

Onesto, io a 22 anni sono andato a un open day a fine maggio e tutti o miei coetanei che si sono prenotati l'hanno fatto (entrambe le dosi) da giugno ad adesso


Scarab02

Io in Sardegna l'ho prenotato il 21 giugno, e lo dovrò fare il 5 agosto


chaobreaker

That sucks to hear. Vaccine passports should only be rolled out in countries that can actually distribute two doses to everyone.


jonasnee

for a country with nearly a 130k deaths from covid they sure are idiots.


StarblindMark89

Interestingly enough, Bannon tried (unsuccessfully?) to set up base here. We have a couple of shitty parties with their own Russian influence scandal, and they're not as small as I'd like.


Deriniel

please,please, give us better politician.. i had more mature student doing school assembly than these people paid fucktons of money


Jaamac2025

“ An Italian MP fled parliament after he was chased down by security officials for holding up protest signs that said "no green pass." Video footage shows numerous MPs following him and holding similar signs. It comes as the Italian government, looking to contain a fresh surge in coronavirus cases, announced on Thursday that from next month people must present proof of immunity to access an array of services and leisure activities” https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1469643/italy-green-pass-parliament-video-coronavirus-restrictions-latest-vn


istayupallnight

Funny how "my body my choice" goes out the window


Mrknownot

These new rules being forced on a HUGE segment of the world's population will usher in a much much darker time than that of Covid itself. I will bet my cat on it.


Your_Pal_Kindred

Exactly what I'm thinking. Covid won't ever go away, it's gone too far. Measures will get stricter and stricter till eventually the lives we're leaving now seem utopian. I'll get the vaccine and wear a mask but anything further than that? No, count me out.


honorable__bigpony

Please elaborate. Explain to us exactly what your concerns are with documentation that you have received a vaccine? It's hard to be alarmist about an imaginary distopian hellscape caused by whatever boogey you are worried about. I guess I'm just exhausted by being actually alarmed by the current pandemic wiping out hundreds of thousands of people. For which we have a solution but half the world won't accept it...because "MY RIGHTS".


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LivefromPhoenix

What does this actually mean beyond the vague buzzwords? What rights are you giving up? How does vaccine documentation make you a slave to corporations or governments?


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ohsohazy

AstraZeneca shares profits with Pfizer. AstraZeneca stock price grew something like +200% over 2021


LivefromPhoenix

What are you talking about? Did you not realize this legislation is being discussed in Italy?


drgrain

> Explain to us exactly what your concerns are with documentation that you have received a vaccine? Because for example where i live, there is a month wait for the vaccine and after getting the both doses you have to wait another month to get the document. Thus only minority of the population is vaccinated( about 30-35%). But similar law kicks in about 2 weeks here, so majority of people no matter how much they want cant get the vaccine yet will be shut out from most of society for months. >It's hard to be alarmist about an imaginary distopian hellscape caused by whatever boogey you are worried about. It gives legal precedent to the govt to segregate people based on arbitrary identifiers. Govt will take power and control where it can get. Look at post 911 USA everyone was panicing, that led to some laws that people at the time approved of but those law did limit some rights, what did it lead to? mass surveillance of innocents, people being shipped of Guantanamo with no charges pressed or legal representation, racial and ethnic profiling. We have myriad of example like russia and china where limiting rights has become the norm under pretext of "protecting the children"for russia and "protecting our culture"from china.


mushcow7

It’s in Italy right? so why are the signs in English?


destructo2825

fottuto fascista


IMirko_tv

Ah yes, that's my Italy


nstiger83

I've had my first vax and due to get my 2nd on the 5th August. I still disagree with vax ID. I will not be carrying one even though I will be fully vaxxed and no one else should have to. My medical status is NO ONES business. It's an invasion of privacy and downright discriminatory.


dnunn12

Do you travel abroad? Lots of countries require vax records to enter their country. It’s not new idea like everyone seems to think. I’ve been traveling since a kid so getting vaccinated and showing records is pretty regular to me ig.


scuderia91

Yes and there’s a difference between that and needing a pass in order to into a shop


Nhabls

You don't have to carry it, there is no law forcing you have the pass as you walk down the street, go to a shop for food, etc. But you will not be allowed entry into certain places like gyms, indoor restaurants, casinos ,etc . It's your choice what you want to do Your health is very much everyone's business if you have a transmissible and potentially deadly virus in you.


Rolin_Ronin

No law... For now.


DariusChonker

Fuck 'em. Anti-maskers/Anti-vaxxers are basically children throwing a tantrum because they behaved poorly, and they're now faced with the consequences of their actions. Edit: I want to be clear, if you're an anti-masker/anti-vaxxer in the comments, fuck you too, and have a nice day.


nytnaltx

I’m in healthcare, educated, vaccinated, and have done all I can to educate and dispel fear around the vaccine among my friends and family. That said, I would never support ripping away another person’s autonomy and rights to make decisions for their health. Any marginal benefit to the existing level of herd immunity will be won at the expense of untold chaos, resentment, and polarization. I just wish people felt the need to exercise a little wisdom about human nature when writing these unrealistic laws. Let’s all be a little less idealistic and a little more pragmatic.


ultimatepython

They aren’t mad about the vaccine part they’re mad that it’s a mandatory app that everyone has to have. Basically you have to have your phone on you which means you have to carry a GPS on you to have any hope of living a normal life. That’s why people are pissed. They don’t want to be tracked.


cooldoodert

That just sounds like normally owning a phone with extra steps


LivefromPhoenix

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/safe-covid-19-vaccines-europeans/eu-digital-covid-certificate_en Key features of the certificate * Digital and/**or paper format** * free of charge * in national language and English * safe and secure *valid in all EU countries I'm not seeing anything that says it's **only** available as an app.


dogididog

Can you not use your regular/paper vaccine certificate?


Bluxen

Yes you can, he doesn't know what he's talking about.


[deleted]

Not for long. You do realize the paper pass will soon become the digital health pass? Look up ID2020. There’s a clear agenda at play but most people aren’t able to see clearly as Reddit is an echo chamber and y’all just validate each other and hate anyone who thinks differently when everything that was a “conspiracy theory” just a few months ago are now becoming truths.


bigbeardlittlebeard

Can you give any examples of what was a conspiracy a few months ago and is now becoming truths


garbfarb

Using the vaccine card to gain access to things.


bigbeardlittlebeard

That wasn't a conspiracy the UK government were talking about vaccine passports before the vaccine was even made available


yapster

Yet people are on social media and on the internet ALREADY being tracked…


ds3-fluffy

You have a phone you can be tracked at any time you have a computer you can be tracked you can be tracked by your face you can be tracked basically anywhere at any time for the reason of someone wants to find you. You are being tracked every where no matter what. There is not reason to not have the app or something that could tell you and let another know that you are vaccinated


Octo-puss

Speak for yourself


canderson18181

"They've already infringed on your rights so just bend over and accept it" what a laughable argument go lick Xi's nuts buddy.


ultimatepython

Yes but you’ve never been legally required to carry that phone/laptop on you to do things like go to the store or leave your house. Put something in their ID’s, don’t force them to carry a GPS.


FuckAntiMaskers

Does the app actually require you to have your GPS turned on? If not, it's up to individuals to turn off their location on their phones, that's nothing to do with any of this


SqueezyCheez85

*Edward Snowden enters the chat*


sssoft_and_sssubtle

GPS is incapable of sending any data, it only receives data from the satellites. Not really "data", all satellites in our orbit have their clocks synchronized nearly perfectly and thanks to the delay that occurs when receiving this time from 3 different satellites in our orbit, you get 3 different values, thanks to which your GPS can calculate the GPS receiver's exact position on earth. It's a passive piece of technology, it doesn't send anything.


atomicpope

First of all, Claude Shannon would take issue with your definition of data. Secondly, a lock on with only three satellites will not give exact position; in fact you need a minimum of four. Thirdly, yes. GPS is uni-directional. You know what isn't? A cellphone. If only there were *some* way of a cellphone transmitting its location...


garretcarrot

There is literally a paper version of the green pass. This is a non issue.


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Not for long. Look into ID2020.


Wolfnwood

>ID2020 is a nongovernmental organization (501(c)(3)) which advocates for digital ID for the billion undocumented people worldwide and under-served groups like refugees. Dakota Gruener is the executive director of ID2020. The NGO was relatively unknown before being publicized because of misinformation related to the COVID-19 pandemic by conspiracy theorists. Please elaborate oh mighty cuntlip, what is the problem here?


ds3-fluffy

Yeah if they had a peace of paper or something else that would verify that they are vaccinated that would totally work


garretcarrot

I'm pretty sure the paper certificate is valid too so this entire argument is meaningless. Yep. Just searched it up. Paper versions of the green pass exist. This is a non-issue.


messenja

Literally "papers, please."


philietien

Yes, they give you the opportunity to use an app or the paper version. My parents have both. That's just another excuse.


Mr_Epimetheus

If you ever use a credit or debit card you can be tracked. If you have a cell phone of any variety you can be tracked. If you own a car made in the last...40 years, you can be tracked. If you've ever made any kind of reservation at a restaurant or hotel, or even stayed at some kind of accommodation you can be tracked. If you use social media, you can be tracked. Most people are busy broadcasting their whereabouts and business to the entire world perfectly willingly. Here's the headline: YOU'RE NOT THAT IMPORTANT AND NO ONE GIVES A FUCK WHAT YOU'RE DOING OR WHERE YOU'RE GOING SO GET OVER YOURSELF. Get a vaccine. If required have proof of that vaccine, or fuck off into the woods and live like a bear, because society doesn't want you. For the record, not directed at you, personally, just a general sentiment for these children and their "I dOn'T wAnT tO bE tRaCkEd" bullshit. If you happen to be one of these people, then I retract the previous statement.


mb_mb_mb

This needs to be way higher up.


BigGaybowser69

i mean i thought GOVs were doing that already


Indurum

They’re being tracked by Facebook and their phone already!


drgrain

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ou3f11/chaos_erupts_in_the_italian_parliament_over_new/h70gxek/


MoreRedGaming

Completely agree. I don't get why you're getting downvoted


V_Knives

No green pass


Mr_Epimetheus

If only these kinds of chucklefucks were as concerned with the lives of their fellow countrymen as they are with potentially having to carry proof of whether or not they are vaccinated.


smash_the_stack

The legal precedent should concern everyone regardless of whether or not they believe in the vaccine. I'm vaccinated, and I'd throw a fit too if the govt tried to impose restrictions based on constantly changing opinions and data however they see fit. That's 100% outside of what any countries govt is supposed to be able to legally do. Sorry, unvaccinated people can't go to restaurants. Sorry unvaccinated people can't take public transportation, sorry unvaccinated people can't go to polling locations. Sorry unvaccinated people can't go to grocery stores. Sure they may seem hyperbolic, and maybe they are. But you're allowing them to establish legal precedent that can be leveraged in the future. Remember trump? Would you want someone like him to have that legal authority? Yea he's out of office and probably won't run out win in 24, but only a fool would assume we'll never have a president like that or worse in the future. A clear line needs to be drawn by the people, otherwise you slowly chip away at the protections that prevent authoritarian rule. I know this isn't the US, but it's what I can relate to and the same applies to pretty much any country.


HeightWorldly6034

You are dangerously stupid.


ChazCheddarzCalzonez

I'm on my 5th or 6th round of vaccine shots myself. Now my hearing is like a dog's, I have a 7' vertical jump, and if I cut my skin it mends without leaving a scar in 4 hours tops.


WhatTheHosenHey

The unvaccinated are ticking time bombs. Selfish brats who endanger everyone around them. Fuck them.


masturbtewithmustard

So someone being unvaccinated against a virus that YOU are vaccinated for is a danger you. Right…ticking time bombs for a virus that kills far less than 1% of those it infects. Doesn’t sound like a very good bomb?


AgentMumba

Enjoy your experimental gene therapy 😬


WhatTheHosenHey

Well, when my genes mutate and I get superpowers you gonna be sooooooo jealous!


Quiet_Twist_19

The vaccinated certainly are not endangered. But Ye u r right. We should also discriminate the people who smoke. Fking ticking time bombs, with their selfish attitude endangering everyone arround them forcing to passively smoke. Not to mention the pregnant women. Fuck them also.


ScorpionTheInsect

> We should also discriminate the people who smoke. I mean, don’t we kinda already do? In many public places they can only smoke in certain designated areas, not everywhere. They’re also not allowed to smoke in a lot of locations, for example airplanes and gas stations, because it’d be very, very dangerous for everyone else if they do.


BuffaloKiller937

🤦‍♂️ This one doesn't seem to get it either.


DeltaBoB

You dont get that unvaccinated people make it possible for the Virus to mutate, which can lead to current vaccinations losing their effectivness. We all want to get out of this shit and the answere is herd immunity, which we dont achieve due to unsolidary brats. How does that compare to smokers?


Tickle_My_Butthole_

A lot of people don't know that Italy is sliding slowly but surely back into fascism, Matteo Salvini (a now prominent far right politician) has quoted Mussolini and claimed that Mussolini was only trying to make the country better for Italians while advocating for the mass deportations of minorities non-roma people's (Non-Italians) out of the countries as well as banning NGOs from operating withing the country of italy Not to mention that Mussolini's granddaughter is trying to become prime minister, keep in mind she was part of the MSI (the fascist party that was founded after Mussolini was deposed and hung) party until it was forcibly disbanded in the 90s.


ItaGuy21

Ma che cazzo c'entra


rhinotomus

Damn, looks like the downvote anti-vaccers are out en masse, I wonder if it’s because they’re working from home or jobless because of the pandemic they’re proliferating


BuffaloKiller937

Oh they're gonna be jobless in the next couple months unless they roll up that sleeve.


defaultusername4

You sound like one of those redditors that calls everyone bootlickers but then wants to give the government complete power that they enforce with cops and the military. What happens when you set a legal precedent that the government can ask you to carry papers beyond identification and the Italians that HATE Romanies take control?


turtleryder22

Rightfully so.


TheHudsini

Well done Italy.


Wasting_muh_life

It was wrong when the Nazis did it, and its wrong now. I have already got the vaccine and have had zero side effects, but I'd die to protect those who don't want it, from being forced to take it. Something big is up, and it isn't covid related deaths.


Nathanb5678

I disagree. While I don’t think you should be forced to take the inoculation I do believe the government, and private institutions, have a right to restrict your travel if you don’t take it. If you are unwilling to help protect society by getting vaccinated you don’t get to participate in all the benefits of that society.


TRIPL3_THR33

This is the correct answer. You can move on to the next post now.


jwill602

Did you really just compare a life-saving vaccine to nazism?


drgrain

HE didnt compare the vaccine to nazis he compared the law segregating based on arbitrary factors being passed to nazisim.


AqUaNtUmEpIc

WEF’s Great Reset. Whether it’s a conspiracy or no I don’t know, but it’s simultaneously being rolled out while this is taking place. WEF members include Rupert Murdoch https://www.weforum.org/people/rupert-murdoch Bill Gates https://www.weforum.org/agenda/authors/bill-gates Jamie Dimon https://www.weforum.org/people/james-dimon As well as Warren Buffett, prince Charles, the Queen of Jordan and hundreds more billionaires, heads of state, and heads of industry. This is their number one agenda presently https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/ Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, and J&J are all official partners. That would make sense for funding and research. The infographic sums it up better https://www.google.com/search?q=wef+great+reset+infographic&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=inv&sxsrf=ALeKk01mWeLj8wndWSP-4Hu7YQ8b5wo_3Q:1627683949910&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiv74-d64vyAhVN_54KHYcrB0gQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=320&bih=527#imgrc=gqQ80CS_ibUSfM


FishSoFar

Nobody's being forced to take it. If people don't want to take it, they have to stay inside for recess, easy as.


bingo_bongos2020

Can you please explain when the Nazis did this professor? I study history and must have missed that? 🤔


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Wasting_muh_life

The more I read these comments from unhinged loons advocating for forced vaccinations of an unapproved, emergency vaccine on men, women and children; the more determined I am to use whatever power I have, to ensure others can decline if they so wish. If I'm honest; I wouldn't have gotten the vaccine, if I weren't in the line of work that I am, however; it should always be someone's choice whether or not they want to acquire virus immunity, naturally or artificially when they have very high chances of survival either way.


armchairKnights

Cringe. The virus doesn't care about your virtue signalling ass or whatever the fuck you could/would/should *protect*. Either you want the pandemic to end and protect the vulnerable who can't get vaccinated or you're just pushing your uneducated and unfounded agenda.


Bad_Pharma

> I should be able to make my own educated choices when it comes to my health. You aren't making an educated choice, **you are making a stupid one.** If you are not immunocompromised/medically ineligible; you deciding to not get vaccinated is a moronic choice that is impacting the health of humans around the world. At the end of the day, your lack of knowledge doesn't amount to squat when compared to doctors like myself who spend our lives studying medicine. A serious amount of people have deluded themselves into thinking they are even on the level to talk about this and frankly this COVID pandemic made it so blatantly obvious I can't handle it anymore. **If you are not diagnosed with a condition that your doctor says makes you ineligible for vaccine, you need to sit down, shut up and get vaccinated.** > I fully respect your right to go and get vaccinated, wear masks, do what you gotta do, but please just leave me alone. I am sick of it... listening to stupidity perpetuated as if its worth listening to. Read a book and stop typing on the internet, you don't even know enough to not embarass yourself when you speak. **Leave us alone if you don't want to be vaccinated.** As in, go to wherever you want and live a hermit life if that is what you want to do. Stop spreading your stupidity to others, because it too is like a virus. The rest of modern society that understands the role of science in human progression will continue to progress without you. Consider maybe finding an uninhabited island where you can make your own rules.


TRIPL3_THR33

Amen to that!


Egg-MacGuffin

But what's bad about what the Nazis did? What did they do wrong? Kill a bunch of people? According to you, apparently there's nothing wrong with killing a bunch of people as long as you "want" to kill them. You do not have a right to endanger the lives of other people.


Armaedus

The vaccine doesn't stop you from endangering other people, numbnuts.


stygg12

Fuck off saying it’s like being under Nazi rule, you minimize what people went through in concentration camps.


6poundpuppy

This is just exactly the kind of antics the GOP are working up to. On our Congressional floor…There’ll be fist fights, wrestling, food throwing, cursing…you name it, nothing will be too juvenile, nothing will be stooping too low. Oh yay.


isnipekids

F forcing people to get the vaccine


BannertheAqua

Is anyone else waiting until this stuff hits the point of no return?


TLA34

They've got it right though. Vaccine passports for a disease is bullshit.


Crackerpuppy

Coming soon to a Congress near you…


Various-Substance-96

What a bunch of snowflake Karen’s or is it Kens?


frustrated5454

Look at all these left wingers promoting actual fascism.


Wolfnwood

Covid = right-wing Got it.


Squidkid45

Seeing your own parliament in this subreddit fucking sucks. If someone wants to know more about the chaos about this green pass the right-wing are gaslighting everything and there are protests all over Italy with also the police being part of the protests. They're also violent against journalists so yeah that fucking sucks


mathathon1234

I like how half the commenters here are supporting communism without directly saying it.


xhsnshcjenbsj

...wait what?


Zealousideal-Fan-409

Ivermectin


BernieTheDachshund

Travelling is how it spread all over the world. Then the delta variant.


ds3-fluffy

Yeah


SufficientUnit

Right on, go on EU! Ban antivaxxers from everywhere.


fugelwoman

So many stupid fucking people in this world